Conférence de presse du Président de la République Emmanuel Macron au Conseil européen des 28 et 29 juin
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00:01-E. Macron : Bien, mesdames
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undefined:undefinedà toutes vos questions.
00:17Ce Conseil était d'abord,
00:19et je souhaite
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00:32et prenne des mesures concrètes.
00:34En matière de défense, d'abord,
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00:50C'est une proposition
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01:06comme elle ne l'avait jamais fait
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01:20en amont,
01:21en matière de planification
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01:32Toutes ces initiatives
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01:44Et ce qui est, à mes yeux,
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01:56n'était pas
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02:10que l'Europe se soit montrée
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02:27dans un agenda de réforme de l'OMC
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02:42du multilatéralisme commercial,
02:43plutôt qu'à une fracture
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02:56ont été reprises
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03:04d'ici la fin de l'année,
03:05comme le demandent
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03:20parce qu'il y a dans notre vie
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03:30d'initiative, nous prenons.
03:32Et pas simplement
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03:45Et c'est l'agenda français
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04:00Avec un message simple :
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undefined:undefinedau nom des 27,
04:15une proposition raisonnable
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04:35il y a quelques années,
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04:54avec les arrivées massives
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05:07à partir de Mare Nostrum
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05:18par rapport à l'année dernière,
05:20parce qu'il y a eu déjà
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05:33qui sont arrivées
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05:48entre l'Europe et l'Afrique,
05:49compte tenu de la dynamique
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06:06En rien.
06:08Je sais, sur ce sujet,
06:09combien l'émotion
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06:28Il y a des choses
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06:40à la protection des femmes
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06:50Le droit d'asile,
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07:01Mais en rien nous ne devons
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07:15une légitime organisation,
07:16pour que les cohésions nationales
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07:30Nous devons avoir une réponse
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undefined:undefinedque nous connaissons aujourd'hui,
07:49il y avait plusieurs choix.
07:52Le choix de politique nationale
07:55et de repli nationaliste,
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08:09d'un travail européen,
08:11d'un accord européen
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08:23Nous sommes revenus aux faits,
08:26aux éléments indispensables
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08:40reposant sur un agenda complet,
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08:57et a permis d'acter
08:59la mise en place
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09:12ce que nous avions aussi pratiqué
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09:27et l'ensemble
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09:38suite aux images terribles
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09:52puisqu'elles leur évitent
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10:03instruire les dossiers
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10:19Sur ce point,
10:21nous avons également acté
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10:33ont accru leur intervention,
10:35ce qui est, là aussi,
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10:49Le 2e axe de nos discussions
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11:01accélérer le déploiement
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11:19avec les Espagnols,
11:21lors de la visite
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11:36Nous avons acté hier
11:38que les accords continuaient
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11:55à travers les centres contrôlés
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12:10et la reconduite
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12:27pour dire, et je pense
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12:44sans modifier les règles
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12:58nous ne changeons pas les règles
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13:11Enfin, nous avons relancé
13:13les travaux
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13:25et des flexibilités
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13:33qui sont aujourd'hui
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13:47ce sera la réponse
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14:06ou décider de trahir nos principes
14:08avec des modalités techniques
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14:21en termes de responsabilité
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14:35mais il permet de répondre,
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14:49aux crises politiques
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14:56Je pourrai revenir
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15:11peut, dans ce cadre,
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15:22Nous avons dégagé,
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15:33qui a donné lieu à une lettre
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15:49pour finaliser ces discussions.
15:51Ces discussions
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16:01l'union bancaire
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16:12du système financier
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16:24un vrai budget de la zone euro,
16:26avec, justement, cette fonction
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16:40et au niveau des chefs d'Etat
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16:54et avancer sur cette finalisation
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17:06et saluer également
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17:19en matière de défense,
17:21et souhaiter ce même engagement
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17:34avec qui nous avons construit
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17:51Je vous remercie
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18:05Est-ce qu'il concevable,
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18:14ont déjà opposé un refus.
18:16S'agissant des centres d'accueil,
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18:28que les intentions
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18:38le président américain
18:39vous aurait demandé
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18:48Et qu'est-ce que
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19:01je veux vous redonner le statut,
19:02et qui s'inscrit dans le cadre
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19:17qui sont autour de la table
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19:31Sur les plates-formes
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19:44La crainte de certains pays
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19:58C'est pour ça que, moi,
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20:06cela peut avancer.
20:08Nous avons, je l'ai déjà dit,
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20:22vers la Libye.
20:23Nous avons réussi,
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20:34à reconduire
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20:43ça a déjà existé.
20:45Mais il faut le faire
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21:35d'accepter des réfugiés
21:37venant d'autres pays,
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21:48Et le fait d'accepter
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21:58mais que nous le faisons
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22:09ou qui exploitent, plutôt,
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22:19au-delà de nos frontières,
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22:32et par un travail renforcé
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22:43Donc voilà le cadre,
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23:13internationales, maritimes
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23:29Elle doit être respectée.
23:31Il y a, ensuite, des pays
23:33qui sont donc des pays
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23:47C'est pour ça que la France,
23:49qui n'est pas un pays
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24:02auront un financement
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24:13Après, il appartient
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24:25et ensuite,
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24:37qui, comme je le disais,
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24:50puisqu'ils ont déjà essuyé
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25:01Si on regarde factuellement
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25:16et hier, avant de démarrer,
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25:27Pour les pays dits de Visegrad,
25:29il était inacceptable de revenir
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25:45a été construit sur la base
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25:57je veille scrupuleusement
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26:15Et ensuite, c'est de permettre
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26:24Et je sais que vous avez
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26:38à vous laisser
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27:01des personnes qui ont besoin
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undefined:undefinedles violations
27:15du droit international,
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undefined:undefinedqui est au Parlement européen,
27:33le pacte de stabilité
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undefined:undefinedque l'Italie, aujourd'hui,
27:50prenne le chemin
27:53pour s'éloigner du coeur
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undefined:undefinedqui auront l'asile octroyé,
28:08et pour la reconduite.
28:10Et donc cela suppose, en effet,
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undefined:undefinedpour ouvrir un tel centre,
28:28et volontariat
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undefined:undefinedavec ces centres fermés.
28:40Je pense au Lifeline, où,
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undefined:undefined648
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedqui prévaut
28:50pour les centres fermés.
28:52Pour tout le reste,
28:53ce sont les mécanismes
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undefined:undefined654
undefined:undefined655
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedpour la responsabilité,
29:05y compris pour ce qui n'est pas
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undefined:undefined659
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedla solidarité
29:15qui va avec nos règles actuelles.
29:16Et certains,
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undefined:undefined00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:09,520
undefined:undefined666
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedles règles de Dublin
29:29pour changer un régime
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undefined:undefined00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:09,520
undefined:undefined671
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedde respect
29:40pour tous les Etats membres.
29:43L'Italie est un membre...
29:46J'allais dire fondateur,
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undefined:undefined678
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedà l'idée européenne
29:57et à l'ambition européenne,
29:58et dont je sais
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undefined:undefined683
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedle mérite.
30:12Et donc, sur chacun de ces sujets,
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undefined:undefined689
undefined:undefined690
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedà l'égard de la Russie.
30:27Il n'y a pas eu de blocage.
30:28Nous avons trouvé un accord
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undefined:undefined695
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefineddu Conseil
30:39qui prend ses responsabilités
30:40et qui s'inscrit dans l'histoire
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undefined:undefined00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:09,520
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undefined:undefined703
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedcomme réponse lors de ce Conseil,
30:56ce que nous continuerons à faire.
30:58Et en tout cas,
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undefined:undefined00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:09,520
undefined:undefined709
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undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedde temps pour trouver un accord.
31:13Premièrement,
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undefined:undefined715
undefined:undefined716
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedla sortie du Royaume-Uni ?
31:29Et troisièmement,
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undefined:undefined720
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefineddes propositions crédibles
31:38qui pourraient marcher
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undefined:undefined724
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefineden trouver un.
31:48Cela dépend, maintenant,
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undefined:undefined729
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedet nous l'avons réaffirmé,
32:02c'est que
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undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedles conditions.
32:19Elles sont posées depuis le début.
32:22Et il est clair
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undefined:undefined739
undefined:undefined740
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedqui, d'ailleurs, constamment,
32:36mesure bien
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undefined:undefined00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:09,520
undefined:undefined745
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedune proposition claire,
32:52qui soit compatible
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undefined:undefined750
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedpuisque ce sont les traités
33:02qu'il a signés et ratifiés.
33:06Donc, la sortie ne peut se faire
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undefined:undefined755
undefined:undefined756
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedles bonnes solutions,
33:21de part et d'autre,
33:22mais cette responsabilité
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undefined:undefined762
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedaujourd'hui réunis
33:38sans nouvelle proposition
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undefined:undefinedde ces propositions,
33:51de leur compatibilité
33:53avec les principes
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undefined:undefined773
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedplus de précisions
34:02sur la proposition britannique
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undefined:undefined
:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedet à l'Elysée
34:13une note diplomatique
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undefined:undefined783
undefined:undefined784
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedun mur à sa frontière
34:26pour bloquer le passage
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undefined:undefined790
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedde cette note reflètent-elles
34:36la position
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undefined:undefined794
undefined:undefined795
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedqui représente précisément
34:48l'Etat français en Hongrie ?
34:51-E. Macron : En rien
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undefined:undefined800
undefined:undefined801
undefined:undefined802
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedsont, en la matière, cohérents.
35:06Et ce ne sont pas simplement
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undefined:undefined00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:09,520
undefined:undefined807
undefined:undefined808
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedet que je combats.
35:21Nous ne relèverons aucun
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undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedparce qu'ils sont pays d'arrivée,
35:38ils peuvent avoir une réponse
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undefined:undefined822
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undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedà travers l'Europe
35:47et qui ont été enregistrés
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undefined:undefined827
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedtotalement nationalistes
35:56se trompent de la même façon.
35:57Parce qu'à ce moment-là,
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undefined:undefined832
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undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedde ce qui a fait l'Europe,
36:10notre Europe est née des errements
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undefined:undefined838
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedque nous aurons à vivre
36:23avec ces défis dans la durée.
36:26Donc je désapprouve en tout point
36:28les citations
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undefined:undefined846
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undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedqui ont été les miens,
36:42et dans l'action que je mène
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undefined:undefined851
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undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedpubliquement ces propos,
36:57il aurait été révoqué
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undefined:undefined857
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedà l'autorité
37:12de révoquer un ambassadeur
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undefined:undefined863
undefined:undefined864
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedqu'elle a été tenue publiquement,
37:26une décision claire sera prise.
37:28Cet ambassadeur sera révoqué.
37:30Si cette parole est l'expression
undefined:undefined00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:09,520
undefined:undefined871
undefined:undefined872
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedles fonctionnaires
37:42lorsqu'ils font
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undefined:undefined877
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedpour le FT.
37:55Une question eurozone.
37:57Est-ce que vous n'êtes pas
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undefined:undefined883
undefined:undefined884
undefined:undefined885
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedun enterrement de 1re classe ?
38:11-E. Macron : Alors, en rien.
38:13D'abord, parce que ce budget...
38:15Je veux dire...
38:16Reprenons où nous étions
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undefined:undefined892
undefined:undefined893
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedla même question en disant :
38:29"Vous êtes gentil
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undefined:undefined900
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedexplicite, clair,
38:41qui, non seulement pose un budget
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undefined:undefined904
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undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedavec un cadre européen.
38:54Le texte qui a été agréé ce matin
38:56vise explicitement
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undefined:undefined910
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefineddans le détail
39:09de quelque instrument que ce soit
undefined:undefined00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:09,520
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undefined:undefined916
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedfranco-allemand,
39:24nous avons exposé
39:26les termes de cet accord
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undefined:undefined922
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedet de gouvernement,
39:32pour construire, sur cette base,
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undefined:undefinedcomment les choses avancent.
39:43Mais je veux que nous puissions
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undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedsur les migrations,
39:56lorsqu'il y a des crises.
39:58Mais nous ne tardons que trop,
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undefined:undefined00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:09,520
undefined:undefined937
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedles 6 prochains mois,
40:10comme je l'ai d'ailleurs
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undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedune bonne discussion.
40:21Elle a permis de montrer
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undefined:undefined947
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedd'une fonction
40:29qui vienne stabiliser,
40:30d'une fonction qui permette
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undefined:undefined952
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedet c'est en bon ordre.
40:40Mais je sais le goût du drame
40:43que l'on peut avoir
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undefined:undefinedqu'on peut construire
41:00dans la durée
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undefined:undefined967
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedsur des visions communes.
41:12Et moi, ce qui m'inquiète le plus
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undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedque nous portons.
41:24Que ce soit nos valeurs,
41:26que ce soit la protection
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undefined:undefined977
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedles compromis techniques.
41:38Donc voilà, c'était une étape,
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undefined:undefined982
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undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedde Channel 4 News, d'Angleterre.
41:52Je peux poser cette question
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undefined:undefined00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:09,520
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undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedou un mauvais signal ?
42:14Ensuite...
42:16Le ministre
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undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedQu'en pensez-vous ?
42:29-E. Macron : Hier soir,
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undefined:undefined715
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedpar elle-même,
42:41elle n'a pas pu exposer
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undefined:undefined1007
undefined:undefined1008
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedqu'il y ait de malentendu
42:52sur les formats et la procédure.
42:54C'est celle
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undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedde dire cela.
43:05L'Union européenne
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undefined:undefined1019
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedcette ambition à Saint-Pétersbourg
43:18il y a quelques semaines.
43:20Néanmoins,
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undefined:undefined1025
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undefined:undefined
undefined:undefineddes accords de Minsk,
43:34et qui doivent être respectés
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undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedtout à la fois nos principes
43:48et la défense de l'intérêt
undefined:undefined00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:09,520
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undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedet rien d'autre.
43:59C'est une politique
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undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinednormaliser ce point,
44:10et donc que la Russie et l'Ukraine
44:13trouvent le chemin du respect
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undefined:undefined1048
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undefined:undefinedde mon mandat.
45:00Moi, je ne suis pas en train
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undefined:undefined1056
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undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedet de gouvernement
45:13qui portaient
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undefined:undefinedsur le sujet des migrations,
45:25la France a un vrai défi.
45:26Nous sommes en train
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undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedsur ce point plus national,
45:35mais nous avons été
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undefined:undefined1072
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedvenant des pays du Visegrad.
45:49Et donc tout le monde
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undefined:undefined1078
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedde solidarité
46:01à travers ces centres contrôlés.
46:03Ca n'était pas évident,
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undefined:undefined1083
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedavec des mécanismes
46:13de quotas immédiats.
46:14Donc voilà,
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undefined:undefined00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:09,520
undefined:undefined1089
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undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedquel était le chemin de passage
46:30avec les pays du Visegrad.
46:31Et donc, j'ai cherché,
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undefined:undefined1095
undefined:undefined1096
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedqu'il fallait faire.
46:43Et je veux les en remercier,
46:44parce qu'ils ont fait
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undefined:undefined1102
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedet d'agir dans le réel. Voilà.
46:58Donc je pense que c'est une bonne
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undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedil y a plusieurs mois.
47:08Je pense
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undefined:undefinedà obtenir cette réforme
47:22que tout le monde
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undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefineddes intérêts strictement nationaux
47:41pour trouver la voie
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undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedaucun pays ne le réglera seul.
47:55Aucun pays.
47:56Ou de démanteler,
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undefined:undefined
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undefined:undefined
undefined:undefineden matière commerciale",
48:08ou ceci, ou cela,
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undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedqu'un carnet de chèques."
48:19Donc nous devons collectivement
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undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedparce que nous ne voulions plus
48:29la guerre, qui suppose l'exigence
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undefined:undefined1146
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedde vainqueur à ce Conseil,
48:42si ce n'est l'idée européenne
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undefined:undefined1151
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedsoit à Bruxelles,
48:59pour ceux qui y sont,
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