Conférence de presse avec Abdel Fattah al-Sissi, Président de la République arabe d’Égypte
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00:13-A. F. al-Sissi : Au début,
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00:29et cela à la lumière
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undefined:undefinedet d'accords
00:44entre les 2 peuples
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00:56politique, militaire,
00:58sécuritaire, économique
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01:13De même,
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01:24les communications, les jeunes,
01:25le commerce international
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01:41Aussi notre relation
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01:49exécutées par l'Egypte dès 2016,
01:54visant à remédier
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02:06Nous nous sommes mis d'accord
02:08sur le fait de la nécessité
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undefined:undefinedpour M. le président
02:27que l'Egypte accueille
02:28les sociétés égyptiennes
02:29et leur participation
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02:39à l'appui et à la promotion
02:41de l'investissement étranger
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03:04qui contribuent aux intérêts
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03:15en tant qu'année culturelle
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03:29a été inspirée
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03:41Et ici, nous pouvons oublier
03:44la contribution
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03:53une entente,
03:55une convergence
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04:10pour réaliser les échéances
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04:22le Moyen-Orient
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04:33de tous les efforts déployés
04:34afin que le peuple de l'Egypte
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04:50du fait d'une compréhension
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05:12Et ici, nous devons traiter
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05:24la liberté d'expression
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05:37du fait de sa responsabilité
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05:46et que le peuple égyptien
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06:00soit dans la région
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06:21notamment en Libye et en Syrie,
06:22la cause palestinienne
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06:37et les occasions pour entamer
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06:56maintenir l'état national
06:59et empêcher son "démorcellement"
07:01ou permettre
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07:14de nouveau en Egypte.
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07:24dans tous les domaines.
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07:42J'avais reçu à Paris
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07:57et j'y reviendrai, de la région,
07:59comme la relation bilatérale.
08:01Et ce déplacement en Egypte
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08:23Avec le président Sissi,
08:24nous venons d'avoir
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08:38Sur les sujets régionaux,
08:41nous travaillons
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08:56nous a permis de converger
08:58et surtout d'agir de concert
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09:11qui luttent efficacement
09:12contre le terrorisme
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09:25ne prenne plusieurs initiatives
09:28dès d'ailleurs juillet 2017
09:30avec la conférence
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09:48sur le territoire,
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10:05pour coordonner nos actions
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10:22et nous l'avons réaffirmé
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10:38du Conseil de sécurité,
10:40ce que nous souhaitons
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11:02constitutionnelles
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11:13de vouloir engager
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11:29dans un processus de transition
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11:49dans le dialogue et la politique
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12:02Mais nous sommes convaincus
12:04que la solution,
12:06celle d'ailleurs que nous portons
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12:19intra palestinien.
12:21Nous avons bien évidemment
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12:35Nos deux pays
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12:52sur nombre de crises du contient.
12:55Bien sûr, au-delà de ces sujets,
12:58la relation bilatérale
13:00a structuré nos échanges.
13:03Relation bilatérale
13:04dont aujourd'hui
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13:44j'ai arrêté.
13:45(Il rit)
13:47(Grésillement)
13:50...
14:18Il se passe manifestement
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14:58et de la sécurité.
15:00En effet, nos deux pays
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15:14sont de la plus haute importance
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15:27de ce que nous conduisons
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15:49comme vous le savez,
15:51est extrêmement importante
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16:02avec le respect
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16:19ne saurait être dissociée
16:20de la question
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16:34En ce sens, j'ai rappelé
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16:51dans les assouplissements
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17:05et j'ai pu remettre
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17:17que nous instaurions un dialogue
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17:29ce partenariat
17:31d'une stabilité
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17:45Alors que l'Egypte
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17:59en particulier
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18:09les accords précédemment signés
18:10ont montré à la fois la variété
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18:22Je l'évoquais,
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18:36et des investissements.
18:38Mon message aux entreprises
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18:51dans l'ensemble de ces sujets.
18:54A ce titre, nous aurons,
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19:06Nous avons clarifié beaucoup
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19:23et nous irons ensemble
19:25pour voir le projet
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19:36en matière de ville intelligente,
19:38mais qui doit aussi nous permettre
19:39de développer
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19:52sur lesquels le président Sissi
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20:18là aussi,
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20:33nous avons beaucoup échangé
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20:43en matière académique,
20:46en particulier pour former
20:48les cadres de la nation
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21:02à cet établissement
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21:13et doit trouver des perspectives
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21:25pour son engagement en faveur
21:27de l'enseignement du français
21:29dans l'éducation égyptienne,
21:32qu'il s'agisse de son enseignement
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21:44que nous avons décidé
21:45qui permet la mobilité d'étudiants
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21:59Sur le plan culturel,
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22:13Nous souhaitons l'un et l'autre
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22:25d'autre part,
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23:03le développement,
23:05la stabilité, la réussite
23:07de l'Egypte contemporaine
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23:25et elle nous importe compte tenu
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23:41et l'agenda que nous avons
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24:04et je souhaite la bienvenue
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24:25lorsque vous avez regardé
24:27et admiré
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24:46estime à la même appréciation
24:49à la nation française
24:50du point de vue civilisation
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25:09vous avez dit
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25:22que vous ne deviez pas donner
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25:44et qui ont été diffusées
25:48par quelques agences de presse
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25:57a mis l'accent sur le fait
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26:20J'espère avoir une précision.
26:23Merci. Et vous êtes toujours
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26:45La politique de la France
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27:03la France
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27:16c'est de veiller
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27:29ou dicter depuis l'extérieur
27:30quel devrait être
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27:42Je l'ai dit. C'est ce qui
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undefined:undefined635
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedd'un pays comme l'Egypte,
27:57en effet, exigeait que,
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined639
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedpuisse être déstabilisé
28:11et impliquer une réponse.
28:13Et je réaffirme ici
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined645
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedpour nous-mêmes.
28:24Réciproquement, les droits
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined649
undefined:undefined650
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedavec le président Sissi
28:36sans revenir pour autant
28:38sur les principes
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined656
undefined:undefined657
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedet je lui ai remis une liste.
28:51Les choses n'ont pas été
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined662
undefined:undefined663
undefined:undefined664
undefined:undefined665
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedun dialogue exigeant
29:12sur les droits de l'homme
29:13est totalement cohérent
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined672
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedla presse du jour.
29:30J'imagine donc que vous voyez
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined678
undefined:undefined679
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedà la réussite de l'Egypte
29:43dans le contexte contemporain,
29:44je pense qu'il est bon
29:45d'apporter une réponse à ce point.
29:47La deuxième chose,
29:49c'est que la réussite
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined688
undefined:undefined689
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedont besoin de liberté.
30:07Les meilleurs esprits
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undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined696
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedvotre président, votre pays,
30:22a besoin de cette liberté.
30:24Enfin, parce que je pense
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined701
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedqui sont liées
30:35à la stabilité de l'Egypte,
30:36à la volonté
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined706
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedde toutes mes forces
30:46l'Egypte sur ce chemin.
30:47Le président le sait.
30:49Et c'est le sens de nos échanges
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined712
undefined:undefined713
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedque nous avons eus
31:02et de la liste
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined717
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedque la discussion que nous avons,
31:12l'expression que je peux avoir là
31:13elle est respectueuse
31:15de la souveraineté de l'Egypte,
31:20elle est à la hauteur
31:21de la considération
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined726
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedsur certains cas particuliers...
31:32Le président Sissi
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined731
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedque c'est important,
31:43et je ne serais pas un ami sincère
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined736
undefined:undefined737
undefined:undefined738
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefineddes défis sécuritaires
32:00auxquels le président Sissi
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined746
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedtous les efforts qui sont faits
32:17pour que toutes les religions
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undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined753
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedpour lesquelles
32:28je veux aussi voir
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined757
undefined:undefined758
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedet entends.
32:42C'est pourquoi
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined762
undefined:undefined763
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedpour Europe 1 à Paris.
33:03Vous m'entendez ?
33:06On vient de parler des sujets
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined768
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefineddont vous parlez ?
33:15Est-ce que des noms
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined773
undefined:undefined774
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedune situation alarmante.
33:29...
33:36(Traduit de l'arabe)
33:37-A. F. al-Sissi :
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined780
undefined:undefined781
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedà la stabilité
33:52et la sécurité de l'Egypte
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined786
undefined:undefined787
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedtoujours ici en Egypte
34:10sur les droits de l'homme.
34:13Nous devons reconnaître
34:15et parler clairement...
34:17Nous ne sommes pas comme l'Europe.
34:19Nous ne sommes pas
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined796
undefined:undefined797
undefined:undefined798
undefined:undefined799
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefineddans le monde.
34:38On ne peut pas avoir le monde
34:41qui a la même méthodologie
34:43et on dit que ça,
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined806
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedde changer cela en une seule voie
34:57peut ne pas être bien.
35:00Ca, c'est un point.
35:01L'autre point,
35:03il est juste,
35:04lorsque nous abordons
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined815
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedest très importante.
35:15Et est-ce que le volume
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined821
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedcelui qui a posé la question
35:34concernant les libertés
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined826
undefined:undefined827
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefineddans cette région.
35:47Et l'Egypte...
35:50Ce projet n'a pas réalisé
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined834
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedque je voudrais ajouter,
36:08mais je voudrais dire
36:10que venez pour parler
36:12du volume des efforts
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined842
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedet je vous dis
36:27que j'avais 250 000 familles
36:31qui vivaient d'une manière
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined850
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefineddécentes du tout.
36:47Lorsque l'Etat égyptien
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined854
undefined:undefined855
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedéconomique ou matériel,
37:02qu'elle offre 250 000 habitats,
37:05logements meublés
37:07pour que nous disions
37:10que ces citoyens...
37:12pour dire à ces citoyens
37:13que l'Etat
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined866
undefined:undefined867
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedsans abri ou sans vie décente.
37:27Ca, c'est un point.
37:28Lorsque je vous dis
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined873
undefined:undefined874
undefined:undefined875
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedau cours des derniers 8 mois,
37:45de traiter 10 000 personnes,
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undefined:undefined879
undefined:undefined880
undefined:undefined881
undefined:undefined882
undefined:undefined883
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedles droits de l'homme
38:11d'une autre vision,
38:13différente à celle
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined892
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedL'Egypte,
38:26à travers le travail
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undefined:undefined896
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedqui pouvait parler
38:41des liens entre
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undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined904
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedà la citoyenneté
39:00même si ceux qui ne croient pas
39:03sont pris en considération.
39:07Ce sont des pratiques
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined913
undefined:undefined914
undefined:undefined915
undefined:undefined916
undefined:undefined
"Vous volez
:undefinedles droits des blogueurs."
39:31Moi, je vous pose la question.
39:32Comment je vais trouver
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined921
undefined:undefined922
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedce que je peux faire.
39:46D'où je peux apporter l'argent
39:48pour les 1 million
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined929
undefined:undefined930
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedrésoudre toutes ces questions ?
40:05Je regrette de dire
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined935
undefined:undefined936
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedet la dignité
40:24pour avoir accès à une société
40:27qui va de pair avec l'Egypte,
40:29qui a une longue histoire,
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined946
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefineddes millions de citoyens
40:42qui souffraient de cette maladie.
40:44Un pays avancé en Europe
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined951
undefined:undefined952
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedqui se trouvait dans le monde.
41:11Moi je mentionne cela,
41:12parce que si nous voulons parler
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined961
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedcommunautaire parfait.
41:25Et lorsque nous avons trouvé
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined966
undefined:undefined967
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedd'un Etat de ce tel volume
41:42et les ONG
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined972
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedque nous ne devons pas
41:55limiter les droits
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined977
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedest une autre chose.
42:07La destruction de l'Etat
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined981
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedtrouver le même destin.
42:17Et moi, je crois ici que...
42:19Qu'est-ce que vous auriez pu
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undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined990
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedet j'ai dit : "Faites attention
42:38"à ce que les causes
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undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined998
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedmais nos regards européens.
42:57C'est-à-dire vous devez, vous,
42:59nous regarder
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined1003
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedla réputation internationale,
43:10ce sont les accusations.
43:13Et tant qu'on n'a pas abordé
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined1009
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedje voudrais vous rassurer.
43:27Et je mets l'accent
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined1014
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedque j'ai dit cela aux Egyptiens.
43:41Je suis là
43:43par la volonté égyptienne.
43:46Et si cette volonté n'existe pas,
43:48je renonce à ma position.
43:51Et, M. le Président,
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined1026
undefined:undefined1027
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefineden tant qu'oasis
44:15de la démocratie
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined1031
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedles masses médias
44:26des événements
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined1036
undefined:undefined1037
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefineddans les rues
44:39comment on a traité
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined1041
undefined:undefined1042
undefined:undefined1043
undefined:undefined1044
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefineddes droits de l'homme ? Merci.
44:55-E. Macron : Alors.
44:57Sur le sujet...
44:59parce que je ne voudrais pas
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined1050
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedsituation par situation.
45:12Donc je n'attendais pas
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined1054
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedpour vos mots pour la France.
45:23Néanmoins, vous aurez noté
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined1058
undefined:undefined1059
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedon peut dire tout.
45:35Parfois, on dit beaucoup
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined1064
undefined:undefined1065
undefined:undefined1066
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedet tout ça est bel et bon.
45:49Ensuite, il y a eu
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined1070
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedune liberté
46:01qui est constitutionnellement
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined1075
undefined:undefined1076
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedété interdites,
46:18des individus,
46:21des casseurs, des extrémistes
46:23se sont introduits.
46:25Et ils ont en effet
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined1083
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedou d'autres personnes.
46:38Et donc, de manière légitime,
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined1089
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedparce qu'ils cassaient,
46:51parce qu'ils détruisaient,
46:53parce qu'ils s'attaquaient
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined1095
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedont été relâchés
47:04en attente de leur jugement.
47:05Ils seront jugés
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined1101
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedd'activistes extrêmes
47:20qui seront punis
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined1107
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedleur mécontentement,
47:35comme ils ont droit de le faire,
47:37parce que ça n'a rien à voir.
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined1115
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedqu'ils ont tous perdu la vie.
47:50Bien souvent,
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined1119
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedde la nature de cette crise,
48:05de ce que la France vit
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined1124
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedcontemporaines
48:16peuvent tout échanger
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined1131
undefined:undefined1132
undefined:undefined763
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedvendues par la France
48:46à l'Egypte
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined1140
undefined:undefined1141
undefined:undefined1142
undefined:undefined1143
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedà en vendre à l'Egypte ?
49:00Et plus précisément,
49:01est-ce que des négociations
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined1148
undefined:undefined
Sur
:undefinedvotre 1er point,
49:10les ventes d'armes
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined1152
undefined:undefined1153
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedpar le Premier ministre
49:26à des finalités militaires.
49:28Sur 200 interventions,
49:31à une reprise, en 2013,
49:33l'utilisation d'un tel blindé
49:35a été identifiée.
49:37Elle a d'ailleurs donné lieu,
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined1162
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedest une utilisation
49:48qui doit être
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined1168
undefined:undefined1169
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedpossible.
50:00Ce sont des sujets pour défendre,
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined1173
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefineddans le cadre d'une commande.
50:1723 ont d'ores et déjà été livrés
50:19et nous poursuivons le travail,
50:20et il se poursuivra
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined1182
undefined:undefined1183
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefineddu partenariat
50:31en termes d'utilisation,
50:33mais aussi en termes
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined1188
undefined:undefined1189
undefined:undefined1190
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedavec les manifestants
50:58à travers les armes ou par force.
51:00Vous devez savoir cela,
51:02parce que la manifestation
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined1196
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefineddes manifestations
51:11que ça soit
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined1202
undefined:undefined1203
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedpar la France
51:24pour la dissuasion
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined1209
undefined:undefined1210
undefined:undefined1211
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedque nous nous rappelons de cela,
51:44mais il y avait un traitement
51:48avec les éléments intégristes
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undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined1219
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedde la diplomatie
52:08et une réponse politique, non,
52:10mais justement,
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undefined:undefined1224
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedle citer maintenant
52:19pour respecter les familles
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undefined:undefined1234
undefined:undefined1235
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedqui n'est présente
52:54que dans nos pays.
52:55Et malgré cela,
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined1241
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedque nous réviserons le passé.
53:05Je ne défends pas,
53:06mais je parle de principe.
53:08Le droit de manifestation
53:10est un droit
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined1248
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedsur cela.
53:19N'importe quel équipement
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined1252
undefined:undefined1253
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedde la lutte contre le terrorisme
53:31et la protection de l'Etat
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undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
undefined:undefined00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160
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undefined:undefined1260
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedpour qu'ils soient là-bas
53:52pour ne pas porter atteinte à nous
53:54et les pays du voisinage.
53:56Ca peut porter atteinte aussi
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undefined:undefinedbienvenue à monsieur le président.
54:08(Applaudissements)
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