He was hardly beaten and he decided to move to Kigali to find job

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00:13I was very tired when I reached Nyabugogo,

00:16I was feeling dizzy

00:18I would think I am in another country

00:22I couldn’t understand what was going on!

00:31I am Ntakirutimana Anastase,

00:34I was born in Karongi district,

00:37in Gishyita sector

00:39I am the elder in a family of 5

00:41but there are others from the first wife

00:48my father married 2 wives,

00:51but one died

00:52and my dad brought another one,

00:54so I am the elder to the second wife, and we are five children

00:59excluding the children from the first wife,

01:01and I don't know the first dad's wife

01:03I grew up seeing my siblings

01:07and things were not easy for us

01:09I grew up in a poor family,

01:11we were living in hard conditions

01:14even eating was not easy

01:19we were living in tough conditions for real

01:24I even quitted the school

01:28because of the life, we were living in

01:31after growing up and find we are poor

01:35we could only eat when our parents beg for food

01:42at 13 years, I used to go with mum to beg different people

01:45like all those you see begging on the street

01:51that's how our life was at that moment

01:59and I would go to school after begging with my mum

02:05since we used to live in hard conditions for a long period

02:10when I was 15 years I stopped studying,

02:14my young brothers were going to school starving

02:19I was in primary six at that time

02:21so I had to stop studying and help them

02:28and find jobs like helping construction workers,

02:31making bricks at 15 years.

02:39I was trying to get a living

02:42and take responsibilities for my young brothers

02:45that's when I decided to stop studying.

02:49that's what I have been through until I was 18 years,

02:54at the age of 18 years

02:57I said,

03:01I worked so hard, but still nothing is changing

03:08we used to spend two days without eating

03:13and that was a big problem for me

03:16and I thought if I can go to steal maybe we can eat,

03:21it wasn't how I wanted things to be,

03:26I had pity for my siblings

03:29I couldn't really sleep seeing my brother there

03:33feeling weak due to hunger and I decided to steal things like sweet potatoes

03:42and lie them that I bought them

03:48I couldn’t tell them that I stole them, they would be mad at me,

03:52so I had to lie to them

03:55I would tell them that I have worked

03:58and I bought sweet potatoes,

03:59I would bring a few, so they don't suspect me

04:02I would steal plantains and divide them into pieces

04:08so they don't find out that I have stolen it!

04:11if I brought it all they would ask me where I got it.

04:15I lived that life like a year

04:20and I would bring money if I get a gig so we can eat

04:24or go to steal if I don’t get that gig

04:30I used to carry things for different people like sorghum,

04:33sweet potatoes, cassava at the market

04:35and they would pay me like 100 Rwf

04:38or 200 Rwf

04:40and I would end the day with 700 or 1,000 Rwf

04:46if that doesn’t happen I had to go steal

04:50and sometimes I would go steal at night

04:53and at home, they would think I am playing with others

04:59while I am stealing sweet potatoes

05:04or cassava, that we can eat 2 times and lie to them

05:10that I bought them

05:13I kept doing that, but I was caught

05:16and it was a very huge problem

05:18I was beaten so hard at our village

05:22in front of everyone

05:25and everyone found out that I was a thief!

05:29but I continued to steal

05:31because they did not resolve the issue

05:35which was pushing me to steal

05:37they were not going to provide us what to eat

05:42so I continued to steal

05:46and I turned into a bad thief,

05:54to the extent where I would meet other guys

05:58and go together

06:08and we would steal a whole sack of cassava or plantains

06:10and we go sell them

06:11I was a bad thief at that time

06:16I was not scared anymore

06:17it all started with the pity I had for my siblings

06:21and ended up being a real thief

06:23where I would need a pant, and decide to steal it,

06:28All I could do was stealing, I couldn’t agree to work

06:32that what I have been through from 15-18 years.

06:46One day I stole a bicycle,

06:47that's one thing which stopped me from stealing,

06:51I was beaten, where I spent a week unable to sit properly

06:55I was a bad thief

06:57I was beaten at the market

07:00I think you know how they beat a thief

07:03to the extent, I realized that I am doing wrong

07:08that's when I changed and be a good boy,

07:12and I started to find jobs at 18,

07:17I would ask for a job and get it without

07:20judging me that I am young,

07:23and I would earn 700-1,000 Rwf

07:26others were earning 1,500 Rwf,

07:28and I was earning 700 or 1,000 Rwf

07:31even in cultivating, I would earn 500 Rwf

07:35while others were earning 800 Rwf

07:38I had changed, I would agree to be paid less

07:41I would even work for 300, but not going back in thieve's life

07:45but it kept not going well, and I decided to go to Kigali,

07:48I was thinking if I go to Kigali, life will change

07:53so I can help my young brothers

07:55to study and send them money

07:58and also live a good life.

08:05When I arrived in Kigali,

08:10things were not easy for me,

08:12I came to Kigali by myself

08:16thinking that I will seek for a job and get it immediately

08:19I thought it was very easy, and Kigali is like paradise

08:23and everyone is rich, no poor people who live in Kigali!

08:28so I took a bus with little money I had

08:35I was so tired after arriving at Nyabugogo

08:37I was even feeling dizzy

08:39and when I was looking at people around,

08:41I would find myself, I am in another country,

08:44I couldn’t understand what was happening for real

08:49I was scared of cars,

08:52I was born in a rural area where it is hard to see cars

08:59even going into Kigali, I was afraid

09:04and each car I would see, I thought it was going to hit me

09:13so I had to go hide to that building in Nyabugogo

09:18which is in the center

09:22so I was hiding at a canteen there

09:26like 5 hours

09:29without understanding what is happening

09:32and staring at people, asking myself if I can ask them for a job

09:36or he is a thief as I used to hear there are so

09:38many thieves at Nyabugogo!

09:39I only had a small envelope with few clothes

09:44I don’t know how I can say, but it wasn’t easy!

09:50I sat there from 1pm,

09:54until 5pm

09:57and I was thinking if I ask someone a job,

10:00he will go with me and steal my things

10:03even though I had nothing for real

10:07I only had few clothes with me

10:12I kept sitting there,

10:14for 5 hours

10:19I started asking myself where am I going to sleep?

10:24I thank God every time I remember this

10:27I never thought where to sleep that whole time

10:29I spend sitting there.

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