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00:00 to bring in our International Affairs Editor Angela Diffley. Angela, just
00:05 looking and analysing that speech as you were, what stands out to you? I think
00:12 Zelensky is always very forthright and this is stating his position. Of course
00:19 Ukraine might not get everything it wants further down the line whenever any
00:24 negotiations take place but he is laying down what matters here to Ukraine. First
00:30 of all he's identified he was saying that this war was not simply about
00:35 Russia invading a country, it was about universal values and that is why so many
00:41 people support Ukraine. He says it was about freedom, it was about justice and
00:46 it's very clear that he is making that a very front argument that this is not
00:54 just about Ukraine and Russia, that if this isn't sorted the repercussions
00:59 could go on and on. He also talked about how impunity leads to aggression. Here he
01:06 is at the International Criminal Court and that of course wasn't set up the
01:12 last time there was a major war in Europe when we had the Bosnian break-up
01:16 of Yugoslavia. This is since then and so it's the first time there has been the
01:21 International Criminal Court since there has been, the first time there's been a
01:24 war in Europe since that has been established and he talked about impunity
01:29 leading to further aggression. Now of course in 2014 when Russia invaded
01:34 Crimea and annexed Crimea not very much was done about it and he is clearly
01:41 implying that that led Putin to believe nobody would do very much again should
01:46 he decide to take things further as indeed he did with that invasion. He also
01:51 talked about the importance of justice, that there can be no peace without
01:58 justice because unless issues are fully properly resolved they simply erupt
02:02 again later on. For him it is vital that Vladimir Putin is held to account at
02:08 this court, he made no bones about that and he also said that there should be
02:14 stipulated in any negotiated peace agreement that there must be no
02:19 repetition of aggression by Russia towards Ukraine. So he is very clearly
02:25 setting out his points. It is true that Ukraine might not get all at once and
02:31 there is a lot of discussion about when this war might end and what might
02:38 constitute some sort of acceptable settlement to Ukraine and there are
02:43 murmurings that perhaps Ukraine should settle for the 2014 borders and forget
02:51 about Crimea. He is saying no way we want Crimea back, we want our territory and we
02:57 want our values which are universal values respected. We get a sense I think
03:03 as well of a man who feels contained by the current laws, the ICC given that
03:08 Russia is not a signatory. I think one of the quotes he said is to talk about
03:11 this insisting on the creation of a tribunal, he linked it to the Nuremberg
03:15 trials of the Nazis after the Second World War and talked about we must, what
03:19 he said, we must make bold decisions about the short currings of the current
03:22 law. Do you get a sense of this is one man shouting alone or whether there'd be
03:26 support for that kind of idea? I think that that is a very very complicated
03:32 issue involving very many countries and very many different reasons why they
03:37 might like some of those constraints so I think that for now that will probably
03:41 be set aside. He is an extraordinary speaker, this has been going on for 14-15
03:49 months now, he has doggedly pursued the interests of Ukraine around the world in
03:57 every forum, every time stating again and again the no compromise position he has
04:04 and he appears not to be tiring of it and has certainly for his own people it
04:09 would appear seemed to be an inspirational speaker. He's energetic, he
04:14 does have a natural charisma in these forums and here we are he's
04:19 doing it again. Angela, thank you. Angela Diffley our International Affairs Editor.

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