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00:00 In the last day's debate in A-Channel, when Umban Chandi was the 2nd CM,
00:05 the Orthodox Society was harassing him.
00:08 We heard the judge, Vinu Bijon, beating him up.
00:11 In Umban Chandi's 2nd term as CM,
00:15 the Orthodox Society saw him as an enemy for 2-2.5 years.
00:20 He wouldn't participate in any of the proceedings.
00:23 The Society would expose the actions of him and the ministers.
00:27 The Society's case was about how a just officer like him should be involved.
00:33 The same Society, which was participating in the Nyaradasha Aaradhana,
00:37 exposed him as an enemy.
00:40 The Society would expose him for 2-2.5 years.
00:43 We heard a doctor announce that he would be called to a meeting
00:47 and that he would be sent to Thiruvanchur.
00:53 When his government was finally in power,
00:59 the one who called him a lover said,
01:01 "Our Society is in a state of disarray."
01:04 In Umban Chandi's time, he said, "The orphaned Society is in a state of disarray."
01:09 Umban Chandi had to face a persecution from his own Society.
01:14 He could only take a very just decision in that matter.
01:18 The Chief Minister and the Chief Secretary of the Orthodox Church
01:23 thought that the Orthodox Church would be in a golden age.
01:26 But nothing of that sort will happen.
01:28 Orthodox Church is our own belief.
01:31 We cannot make it a priority in our own affairs.
01:34 We have to look at the issues that arise and the justice to be done.
01:39 Only then will it work.
01:40 Otherwise, the Chief Minister's job is not to hold a church or to make it a priority.
01:46 The Chief Minister took a very just decision.
01:50 Some of the scholars of the Church did not like that.
01:54 That is why they condemned him badly.
01:57 He even gave a fresh verdict.
02:00 The Church's leadership said that if he took part in the proceedings,
02:03 they would not take part in the proceedings.
02:06 The problem of the Church is a civil dispute.
02:09 A civil court, the Supreme Court of India,
02:12 took a decision on the matter of the Church.
02:14 That was in accordance with the Church.
02:16 This is a Christian Church.
02:17 The Church should not be governed by the laws of the court.
02:21 The Church should move forward in the way Christ said.
02:24 That is what he said.
02:27 Without listening to that,
02:28 what are the people doing today who made his gallery,
02:31 the place of worship, and the price of his life?
02:36 The Chief Minister is being given special coverage.
02:40 So, all the things that have been done so far,
02:43 is it not a guilty verdict that it is wrong?
02:45 Isn't it clear from that?
02:47 This is Vinuvi John,
02:50 the judge of the Andhik court.
02:53 Vinuvi John,
02:55 think about it yourself.
02:57 Who are you?
02:59 In the state of believing the Malankara Orthodox Church,
03:03 you both are the same.
03:05 Not the Orthodox Church,
03:07 you are the ones who murdered him.
03:09 Have you ever done anything to that pious man,
03:11 like hunting him,
03:13 like molesting him,
03:14 like insulting him,
03:15 have you ever done anything to the church?
03:18 Has he not filed a case in your name?
03:20 Let me ask you something.
03:22 Have you ever heard him speak against the church?
03:25 Have you seen him?
03:26 You have not held his hand and leg and
03:29 have not stepped down from the case.
03:31 Who went to Coimbatore for a stick and ladder?
03:34 Don't you feel ashamed?
03:36 Don't you feel ashamed to do such shameless things?
03:40 Don't you feel ashamed?
03:42 Search for old videos on YouTube and listen to them.
03:46 Then think about it yourself,
03:48 who were you?
03:50 How evil your mind is!
03:52 The court person sitting next to you,
03:54 you have kicked him out of the court.
03:56 You both are in two different waters now.
03:59 If he is a government employee,
04:01 the law should go in the way of the law.
04:03 That is his duty.
04:04 Otherwise, he should have put that stick aside and
04:06 expressed his opinion.
04:07 Do you have any life experiences?
04:10 Without being able to go to church for years,
04:13 the situation of the church being closed,
04:15 none of your life has ever been in it.
04:18 As long as you have no experience,
04:20 or as long as you have not been kicked out of your own church,
04:24 all of this is just a story.
04:27 For the sake of good people,
04:29 you are involved in things that you are not familiar with,
04:32 and you have suffered for years.
04:34 Do not bother them.
04:36 It is a request.
04:38 For your good goals,
04:40 you are ignoring those who suffer for it.
04:45 There are still churches that are closed.
04:48 In 2017, the Supreme Court's last ruling came,
04:51 and the ruling that lasted for a long time through the
04:53 rhetoric of the educated people,
04:56 was the ruling of Jiji Thompson,
04:58 who was the Chief Secretary of the Malangara Orthodox Church,
05:01 and was a member of the Malangara Orthodox Church.
05:04 He is also in the front line.
05:06 No one is bad.
05:08 During the time of Paulo Sridhyan Bhava,
05:10 when the party's member was the Chief Minister,
05:12 and when he showed his disdain for justice,
05:14 Bhava criticized his position.
05:17 Even today, the party government is criticized.
05:19 If required, it will be discussed in the party's proceedings.
05:22 It has only done that then.
05:24 There is nothing wrong with that.
05:26 It was the party's public position.
05:28 Bhava made it a point.
05:30 There is no need to criticize Vinu in that.
05:34 In the Pamayil case,
05:36 the retired IAS officer who was in Pratipatti,
05:39 was not given a single handful of criticism.
05:46 In the Solar case, in the debates,
05:48 Vinu insulted his family and his position many times.
05:54 What did he say in the Marcona case?
05:58 In that, the IAS officer, Jiji Thomsen,
06:01 did not have any grief.
06:03 Or Vinu Vijay was not sad.
06:05 There was no pity.
06:07 The party's issues will be resolved by the party.
06:09 No one should criticize.
06:11 The party has not done anything wrong
06:13 in the 100% of what Vinu and Vinu's channel engineer, Numban Chandy, did.
06:17 That is why the judges who put the case in the front line,
06:20 shed more tears.
06:22 You all know the society here as good.
06:24 The party knows it as good.
06:26 You know Vinu Vijay and Jiji Thomsen.
06:29 Both of them are two sides of the same coin.
06:32 [Music]