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00:00 You just saw the difference in our introduction.
00:04 The difference is the beauty of democracy.
00:06 When two different opinions are working together,
00:10 you have to agree and disagree.
00:14 That's how we can maintain tolerance.
00:17 There are small things that we try to tell you.
00:21 We can co-exist even with different opinions.
00:24 This is the situation.
00:25 But our politics, Ashfaq, is not like that.
00:29 There is a lot of intolerance.
00:31 And it's increasing day by day.
00:32 I think intolerance is a game of interests.
00:37 When interests meet, everyone sits together.
00:41 The ones who tear clothes, the ones who pull,
00:43 and then the ones who get involved.
00:44 Interests are those who come to power.
00:47 When they are in opposition, they remember all the principles.
00:50 They remember the constitution.
00:51 What is the constitution that our politicians don't remember?
00:55 If the court doesn't act on the decisions,
00:58 they say that they are undermining the courts.
01:02 This is the situation.
01:03 Let me tell you about the 2017 election act.
01:07 The election act.
01:08 The amendment was made.
01:11 Yesterday, when the news came that
01:13 the Prime Minister can be the next prime minister,
01:16 the news also came that the Prime Minister will be made
01:19 by the power of the people.
01:20 The 230 sections of the election act will be amended.
01:25 But we didn't know.
01:27 All the members of the assembly and senate said that they didn't know.
01:31 But now, we have the news.
01:33 The government has been advised to give more powers.
01:37 The final bill will be presented for approval.
01:39 There are other issues as well.
01:40 But this issue...
01:41 The party elections have been mentioned.
01:44 The punishment will be given.
01:46 The rest of the amendments have been made.
01:50 Sadaf has given you some details about this.
01:52 There is a report.
01:55 You saw the situation.
01:58 I was thinking...
01:59 It is said that everyone has the right to participate in the elections.
02:04 Even the common man can participate.
02:06 But how can a common man participate?
02:07 For 20 to 40 years, you have to run an election campaign
02:12 for the assembly and for the national assembly.
02:15 You need the ticket of the party that is being run.
02:18 The government doesn't care about the objections.
02:23 But when the members of the assembly said that they didn't know what was happening...
02:29 They are innocent.
02:30 The People's Party, which has supported the Noon League in difficult times,
02:35 said that the government is now rejecting the amendment bill.
02:41 In the joint parliament meeting, the leader of the People's Party, Razar Abbani, said
02:45 that the joint session of the parliament has been made a rubber stamp.
02:50 Giving more powers to the Nigra government will be the last nail in the coffin.
02:55 The PTI leader, Ali Zafar, said that he was sad and surprised
03:00 when the amendment bill was secretly included.
03:04 We have not received the copies of the amendments yet.
03:11 If you want to make the joint session a rubber stamp like the senate and national assembly
03:18 and want to make it a rubber stamp, that's a different matter.
03:22 The KTK government will be more opposed to the amendment
03:30 of putting the last nail in the coffin.
03:34 We have just seen this. It was about to come out from under the carpet.
03:39 Sections like Article 2A have been amended.
03:43 I was sad and angry when it was added.
03:48 When we discussed and made the decision,
03:52 how did the amendments come out from under the carpet?
03:56 The government is giving the impression that it is working with its allies.
04:03 Kamran Murtaza, a senator of the JUIF,
04:09 has said in a program of Mehr Bukhari that it was fake.
04:15 How did he elaborate that?
04:18 He said that the papers,
04:19 for example, these are all papers,
04:23 he added Section 230 papers in it.
04:26 He added 11th hour in it.
04:27 I am signing it but I haven't read it.
04:30 It is said that you should read everything.
04:33 Especially if you are a legislator,
04:35 the devil lies in the details.
04:37 He signed it in innocence.
04:39 Now he is saying that it is fake.
04:40 He is saying that he didn't attend any meeting of the committee.
04:47 His mother is sick and he didn't go to see her.
04:49 Despite that, he said that he didn't see it.
04:52 He added the papers in the middle.
04:54 Let's see.
04:55 Section 230 was not discussed by me.
04:59 I have evidence that I used to come to this committee daily.
05:04 I haven't been to Quetta since so many days.
05:06 I haven't seen my mother.
05:08 When I was sitting here regularly for some reason,
05:14 I wanted to be a part of something or to watch it.
05:20 So, I have decided what I have to do.
05:24 I didn't add another paper in the middle and sign it.
05:29 We are the government's allies.
05:30 We are ready to help the government.
05:32 We are ready to take the system forward.
05:36 But not on the basis of the constitution.
05:38 An acronym was made famous in Karachi.
05:40 Namalum Afraat.
05:41 Now, it is Namalum Shiv.
05:44 Namalum papers.
05:45 Namalum papers, Namalum Shiv.
05:48 We should get the papers and tell the rundown.
05:51 We should add a paper in the middle.
05:52 That will be very different.
05:55 It will be very different.
05:57 We should read that story.
05:59 We should sign it.
06:01 We have Khabar Ghumman with us.
06:04 He will shed light on this.
06:06 He is close to Ahwani Khaldar.
06:08 What is it?
06:08 Khawar, good morning.
06:10 Tell us, the alliance is also very...
06:12 They are clarifying that they didn't know about it.
06:15 They go to committees and discuss everything.
06:21 They are saying that it didn't happen.
06:22 They added a paper in the middle.
06:26 Look, this is how it is.
06:28 These days, the days of national assembly are coming closer.
06:33 The 12th and 13th of Ajaz are coming to an end.
06:36 The sandhya is going to be torn in the middle.
06:43 Obviously, you have to make such an important law.
06:46 The biggest question is,
06:49 what is the reason for this?
06:51 If you want to put a stamp on journalism,
06:55 you have to do it in the last session.
06:58 You are going to make such an important law
07:01 in the last session of the national assembly.
07:04 You are going to call for a joint sitting.
07:06 You are going to make such a law.
07:08 You have been sitting here for 16 months.
07:10 You didn't know that you would be done in August 2023.
07:16 These are the issues before that.
07:19 These are the issues.
07:20 Obviously, it is a matter of Pakistan.
07:23 People have to vote.
07:24 People should know what is going to happen.
07:27 There is a way to make a law.
07:31 You get feedback from people.
07:33 Forget people, you get feedback from the political parties.
07:38 Whether you and I agree or not,
07:41 our electoral politics,
07:45 including all the evidence and the faith,
07:47 there is a part of it,
07:51 if you don't get feedback from them,
07:53 if you don't get feedback from your allies...
07:55 But you didn't get feedback from one impression.
07:58 And in the papers,
08:01 it is said that you should read each and every thing.
08:05 Especially if you are a legislator,
08:07 you can make laws.
08:09 You should read each and every paper.
08:11 Is it possible that you signed it by mistake?
08:14 Many people did.
08:15 You read the newspapers.
08:17 Raza Rabbani has written a statement
08:20 that he wants to make a joint session.
08:25 He doesn't want to be thumbed up.
08:27 Kamran Murtaza, don't deceive the parliament.
08:31 Ali Zafar.
08:32 All these statements have been published.
08:34 Let's put PDI aside.
08:36 The rest are his allies,
08:37 the JGU, the AFP and the PPP.
08:40 If they are raising objections,
08:42 they are also in front of you.
08:43 You must have heard another statement.
08:46 Raja Raiyad is saying that
08:48 Mr. Saghdar will not run for two years.
08:52 Tell us.
08:53 -And... -Let's put light on this.
08:56 The parliamentarians are telling us
08:58 that they didn't know about this
09:00 when they attended every meeting.
09:02 Is this true?
09:04 Or when Mr. Saghdar's name started floating
09:07 as the new Prime Minister,
09:09 they said that something is going to go wrong.
09:12 And then these objections came up.
09:14 You are right.
09:16 Look, this is a fundamental point.
09:19 I have a very common sense question.
09:24 If you want to run for the next election,
09:30 let the assembly complete its work.
09:32 The elections will be held in eight days.
09:35 The 12th and 13th of this month will be completed.
09:37 In the next two days,
09:39 it will be necessary for the election commission
09:42 to announce its schedule.
09:46 Because you have to complete all the work in 54 days.
09:51 Okay.
09:51 So, during this period,
09:54 after the Nigrahan government,
09:57 how many powers will be in your scheme
10:01 that will reverse the entire system of Pakistan?
10:05 Or will the Nigrahan Prime Minister take the country to war?
10:09 But the thing is that the powers that are being given,
10:12 that foreign countries,
10:14 especially other countries, can make agreements,
10:17 and then they can do other things,
10:20 and it will be financially self-sufficient.
10:22 So, in this case,
10:24 everyone would want to bring such a person
10:27 who can see their interests in a way.
10:30 Or do you think that national interests will be prioritized?
10:34 Mr. Sadiq, this is where the politics starts.
10:39 If you have to go to the people after 60 days,
10:45 the people have to give their mandate to a political party.
10:49 How sure are they that that political party will be A, B, D, or D?
10:55 When a new political party or any political party gets a mandate,
10:58 it will have the actual mandate.
11:00 If they want to pass any law,
11:02 if they want to reverse any law,
11:04 if they have the power of the constitution,
11:08 then let the people of Pakistan decide.
11:10 Let the people of Pakistan express their mind through their vote.
11:14 Those who want to vote, they can do so.
11:16 God forbid, we are facing a big issue here.
11:18 Now that the constitution has been amended,
11:21 and the table will be set,
11:23 what do you see its future after so many objections?
11:28 Unfortunately, our democracy is
11:32 a very clear schedule for elections in every country.
11:39 Even after 50 or 100 years,
11:41 the United States knows when the presidential elections will be held.
11:47 India knows.
11:48 Any other country knows that this is the election schedule.
11:53 No kind of restriction or obstacle can be imposed on it.
12:00 We don't know if we will be able to go to the elections or not.
12:04 You are asking a question.
12:05 The leader of the opposition is saying that
12:08 if a certain person comes, the elections will be held for two years.
12:10 God forbid, which country are we living in?
12:13 Democracy, laws, laws.
12:15 Let some people remain hidden.
12:17 Let some people believe that there are laws and regulations in our country.
12:23 If everyone starts interpreting themselves,
12:28 what will happen to this country and this government?
12:30 The government will be the same as the country.
12:33 I think that whatever is happening is wrong.
12:37 Yes, all political parties should sit together and do whatever they want
12:40 with consensus.
12:42 But it is not possible that...
12:44 Consensus will only happen when we see the loss of trust.
12:48 But how will consensus happen?
12:50 When we have to show our interests and pave the way for the elections.
12:55 We all know what happens.