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We're into double-digit Saints training camp days, and Day 10 saw the offense struggle some.
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00:00 Hey everyone, welcome back to another Saints training camp recap. I'm your host John Hendricks over here on Saints News Network
00:07 Day 10 in New Orleans last one for fans for you know until Thursday, but a lot of action went down
00:15 We'll get you caught up on everything in just a moment
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00:41 so New Orleans
00:43 Day 10 we're double digits doesn't feel like it. We're one week away from a preseason game
00:50 So we got the Chiefs at noon next week
00:53 so this time next week about 418 ish is what I've got right now I
00:59 We're gonna be talking about all the happenings from
01:02 Preseason action an actual game to break down and we're at this point of training camp where I think it feels like
01:07 All right
01:08 We're just ready to see this stuff and happen in real time
01:11 And of course, we don't know who's gonna play when who's gonna do what but what we do
01:15 Know is just kind of talking about attendance today. Let's start there
01:19 Few players that we didn't expect to see so Rashid Shaheed trae Kwan Smith. They're dealing with groin injuries. They were not there at present today
01:27 Taysom Hill he was not present. He had a veteran rest day as well as Ryan Ramchick
01:32 Then you had Max Garcia that wasn't there on just Pete
01:35 Tyron Matthew was there briefly at the beginning of stretch
01:39 But he had a hoodie on with his jersey
01:41 Clearly a veteran rest day didn't sound saying after practice and then the Mario Davis is kind of obviously the big one there
01:48 Davis has is having imaging done on his calf. Didn't sound said he doesn't believe it's anything serious
01:53 But this is two days in a row. We don't see the Mario Davis not a common sight
01:58 I know it has a lot of people concerned
02:00 We'll see how this plays out to Marco Jackson taking reps for him at middle linebacker in his place. And so
02:06 As far as today goes, you know injuries sucks
02:11 You know Benjamin was officially placed on IR today and the team signed John Trey Kirkland an XFL standout
02:17 And somebody that you know, it's a little bit interesting praise for his special teams ability
02:22 So we'll see what kind of happens their receiver room. It's all over the place right now
02:27 So there's up for plenty of things up for grabs right now
02:30 but as far as injuries go two of them to pass along Kota Martin, he's a
02:34 Reserve offensive lineman. He got hurt with his ankle today
02:39 Dennis Allen saying it's not season ending same thing with Lucas Crowe will get him to him second doesn't believe it's season ending but
02:46 Something that they're gonna have to have further tests and evaluations on but he hurt his ankle and then Lucas Kroll guy that we just
02:52 Talked up that was doing extremely well and in practice the other day
02:56 he
02:57 He hurt his tailbone. And so it was a little bit hard of a play. He was doing one-on-one reps
03:02 He was you know working against the defender throw a fade route up to him
03:06 Defender kind of has his arm a little bit so he can't brace for the going to the ground
03:11 But it comes down hard tailbone injury
03:14 He tried to walk it off a little bit, but he did not go to the outdoor session
03:18 And of course, we'll just kind of pay attention to see how things go
03:21 that's just definitely doesn't feel good if you've ever fell on your backside or anything like that and
03:26 Don't brace and you kind of go fall from a distance it hurts. So hopefully curls, okay
03:31 But you know, they got to press on they've got five tight ends on the roster again
03:36 This is kind of puts Jimmy Graham into focus a little bit
03:38 You got a veteran and Jesse James as well in that room as well as taste some Hill
03:41 So we'll see how that kind of plays out. But you know, it's unfortunate anytime you have to deal and talk with injuries
03:47 we talked about the offensive line concerns, but you know at any rate that's
03:51 Kind of the rundown as far as things go now as far as the action go goes
03:55 You know, I'll start with
03:58 The not so good. So the not so good is the offense and team drills did not look that good today
04:04 So we praised him yesterday for how good things were especially Derek Carr in the red zone
04:09 But today they had a very ugly sequence in team drill
04:13 So they had ran three separate team drills one was him one was mostly runs
04:17 The second one is the one I'm talking about with Derek Carr
04:20 So starts with Michael Thomas a past breakup by Alante Taylor who had an excellent day
04:25 I think he's looking really good him and Marshawn Lattimore are
04:28 Probably some of the best ones that stand out in training camp that you're looking outstanding
04:32 great news for Saints fans and
04:35 Taylor's playing outside. So he's also getting work in the slot
04:38 But you know between him Paulson Adibo and obviously Bradley Robey
04:43 This is a strong cornerback position is something we praise talk about as a strength of the team
04:48 But he had a really good day not a next route
04:50 You know next rep car came and he targeted Chris Lavey on a deep post route
04:55 Overthrew him Taylor was in coverage on that one
04:58 But you know over through him that would have been a big play a lot of people waiting
05:02 Might have had to do with Peyton Turner putting some pressure on he beat Trevor pinning on his rep
05:07 So good to see Peyton Turner continue to put things together and Trevor pinning, you know, he talked to this yesterday
05:13 He knows his past pros where he has to work the most. He's definitely made leaps and strides there
05:18 We've pointed about highlighted them on Saints news as far as our observations and recaps
05:22 Be sure you check those out safe that media for the easiest way to get to all the observations recap
05:28 It's a lot to read. It's a lot to take in I get it
05:32 I understand but I want to make sure that you know, everything that we know so you're very informed just like everybody else there
05:38 so
05:39 And so they had that play to a lot of that didn't go and then you had another pressure Nathan Shepherd
05:46 Whips inside car takes off running that wasn't a good sequence. But before that they actually had a low snap no play on it
05:53 That was a tough sequence to have and then the next one. It was a covered sack. No play again
05:58 James Hirsch got hurt in the process
06:00 It looks like it was hand related, but he did return to action after going inside for a little bit
06:06 But you know, that was the other thing and then the last one was a low throw. He had to throw away
06:11 With with Jonathan Abram in rushing him and pressure and he actually got hit car got hit low on that play
06:18 It was a little kind of like a hold your breath moment because car got hit low throw away
06:22 He was okay, but you know after that
06:24 Very frustrated visibly frustrated. It was not a good sequence for the offense
06:29 They didn't do so well and do so hot in red zone after that with team
06:33 You know, so it was just a little bit tough on the day with it. But look
06:38 These things happen again, if you're basing everything off of just one practice shame on you
06:44 We don't we try to get the whole entire picture
06:46 It's you know, you're gonna have your good days and bad days with the defense
06:49 But you know, it wasn't just him Jamis struggled some Jake Hainer struggle a little bit. He threw a real bad pass to
06:56 That was intercepted by smoke Monday
06:59 After Nico Lalo's had some pressure on him that made him throw it was a bad decision
07:04 He was looking really good then and then he makes the pass a couple other things to really point out
07:10 So team was working on to be to inside the red zone and so kind of just set the stages
07:17 So, you know normally praise one-on-ones we talk about one-on-one process and you know that catered a lot to the offense
07:23 But basically it was in goal line red zone
07:25 If you want to call it
07:26 It's more like from the five seven yard line and you got two receivers on one side and you got two corners or two
07:32 Secondary players two defensive backs. Let's put it that way that we're defending against and so the concept was either rub routes
07:39 Picks all those types of different things from the route tree. It was really awesome to see that
07:44 Definitely had some really good moments there. Mike Thomas had some good moments there
07:48 Chris Alave had some good moments Lynn Bowden jr
07:52 I mean you could just kind of go down the list a lot. They Taylor had some good moments and coverage
07:57 but the concept is obviously to just try to
07:59 score on it and you know deal with picks and stuff a lot of jawing going back and forth between the offense and the defense there the
08:07 receivers and the defensive back receivers felt like they were getting held a little bit defensive backs probably kind of about
08:14 Putting words and saying what was said is kind of like hey, you know
08:17 They're just getting in their feels with some of the way that teams are going out
08:21 so we've touched on the emotion and the
08:24 tippers flaring over yesterday
08:27 picked up a little bit more today in that aspect and so that was really about it though, but
08:32 Awesome drill to see car went to do work in the red zone again
08:36 And so I tell you one of the best plays that we saw today a couple of them
08:42 I liked you know, one of the ones where they hit James Washington in the back of the end zone. That was from
08:47 Derek Carr
08:49 Really really nice hookup and for the receiver competition need somebody step up Washington has looked apart
08:55 We've talked about Brian Edwards really been a disappointment so far. We'll see how things progress there
09:00 But Washington's a guy that you know, maybe can progress a little bit show that he's more than just a vertical threat
09:05 But I think one of the plays of the day was in red zone is from 14 yards out
09:09 It's you know, of course my notes. That's why I'm looking at you looking at what I have to save
09:15 So but 14 yards out you got Kendra Miller running a fade route will route. Excuse me on Pete Warner
09:23 from car touchdown
09:25 beautiful route
09:27 Beat Warner on the coverage and it makes the catch. I mean again we talked about
09:33 Everybody and I said this on radio today that people don't look at Miller or Williams as these pass catching threats
09:40 But they've been developed more here and Williams was a guy who caught passes in Green Bay
09:44 So don't think he can't take take catch passes or anything like that
09:48 Miller's a guy that they're just giving him more feeding him more hasn't been a perfect product
09:52 But a really big moment for the rookie just being able to get that on a wheel route
09:57 Look good in seven on sevens and make a big play, you know
10:00 Those are things that you like to see right? I think that's the big things that that happen. I'm talking about Will Lutz
10:06 32 of 35 in training camp today after today. He went eight for eight on the day
10:12 Boom kicks perfect kicks. I mean, this is a guy hit from 47 52
10:19 62 I mean he was all over the place today. And so big day for him. Talk to him after practice
10:26 Look, he understands the competition side. He looks like he says he's feeling a lot better obviously and things and it shows I mean
10:32 Couple misses here and there he just he said it the other day
10:35 He had a terrible day five or seven and you know
10:38 one of the other ones that he missed but he knows all three of those misses and such and so one of the things that
10:43 happened at practice is that
10:45 They put it on him at the end of the practice make a 52 yarder and the team doesn't have to run gassers
10:51 He delivered very excited between him and Blake Gilligan and I know the team appreciated not having to run gassers
10:58 Then it's Alan obviously joke too that he didn't have to do it as well
11:01 So look, we've got a lot of different things that happen
11:03 You know some of the other players that I say starting to see some flashes from Brian Berset
11:07 I know he was out the other day, but good flashes here. You're starting to see some flashes from Isaiah Foskey
11:13 We talked about a T Perry already Jordan Howden. Look he's played first team reps safety again with
11:20 Marcus made today not tyran Matthew. So look he's a guy that's progressing up and I think there's gonna be a big opportunity
11:27 He's got to work on a lot of things
11:29 I'm sure before he's completely ready
11:31 But a good sign of where things are going for him because may is a guy that like Camara
11:36 Could serve a suspension to start the year and so you're gonna need a backup plan to work with Tyron Matthew
11:41 It could be JT gray. It could be a go Amadi. It could be Lonnie Johnson jr. Jonathan Abram
11:47 It could be also Jordan Howden. So that's something to pay attention to
11:50 Um, I really liked what I saw from DeMarco Jackson and run defense run support
11:55 I think he's a guy that's also progressing and look another one that I'll tell you that that kind of stood out to me is
12:00 Nephi soul guy that we kind of overlooked
12:03 You know an overlook and in such he's a special teams guy
12:06 He's really starting to come in a little bit more and be noticeable in it
12:11 Especially in run support made some plays and special teams made some plays and coverage
12:15 so it's always good to see that that you're having a
12:18 Good thing because you know Eagle signed to
12:21 promising linebackers that if the Saints needed somebody they're not gonna get that chance right now because that
12:28 Cunningham's off the board and so is Miles Jack if it was that serious
12:32 I think they would have worked him out and obviously tried that but you know this
12:35 Team right now just needs to hold on stay healthy
12:38 Other things that might have stood out. Look I think you know again we hit on Taylor
12:44 Just not a good showing from the offense today Blake Gilligan punted
12:48 Look pretty good as far as the offensive line goes just to point out a few things there
12:54 You know right now way things went especially not having your full compliment
13:00 Penning's at left tackle
13:02 Hearst's the left guard and then your right side storm Norton is your guy that's kind of taking those reps for Ryan Ramchick
13:08 So we'll see how that kind of continues to play out
13:12 Preseason is really gonna be super important for a lot of guys
13:14 I mean it always is right once your evaluation process and again can these guys who have shown up in practice?
13:20 Put it together next Sunday. We'll see
13:24 and of course we've got
13:26 One more day day 11 ahead of us on Monday
13:29 Just kind of set the stage and then we've got a day off on Tuesday
13:33 Then we hit it for a few days
13:34 Teams gonna be off on Saturday for preparation walkthroughs for their game on Sunday
13:39 Should get a better understanding an idea of what we might see from this team as far as first team reps
13:44 I've kind of said it
13:45 I think we're gonna see a lot of Jameis maybe a little bit of taste in that quarterback and then we'll also see
13:50 Plenty of Jake Hainer. I don't know how much we'll see if Derek Carr
13:54 I don't know how much we need to see if Derek Carr
13:56 I could be fine with just one series one good series with him and Mike and some of these other guys
14:01 But you know
14:02 They're dead deep in a lot of positions and this is gonna be a chance for a lot of these guys to shine
14:07 Especially when it comes to defense - so it'll be in the dome
14:10 It'll be fun. And then the week after that right after the Chiefs game. We're heading to
14:15 LA for Chargers and joint practices so exciting times a lot of fun stuff as always go to Saints dot media or si.com
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14:40 We've talked about it probably gonna end up doing a live stream at some point
14:43 Just try to get some more engagement because I know you guys have tons of questions and I can ramble on and talk on and all
14:49 That stuff, but I'd really love to talk to you guys about more
14:51 But at any rate that'll do it for this one wrapping up day 10 of Saints training camp John Hendricks for Saints news network
14:58 Signing out

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