'Treta' com Ábila: jornalista explica história

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Durante sua participação no podcast "Fala AE" o jornalista Péricles Souza contou sobre um desentendimento que teve com Ramón Ábila, ex-atacante do Cruzeiro, durante entrevista coletiva na Toca da Raposa.  Acesse o site: https://noataque.com.br / https://uai.com.br  SE INSCREVA EM NOSSO CANAL NO YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/@PortalUai  Siga o Portal UAI nas redes sociais:  Instagram - https://instagram.com/estadodeminas/  Twitter -  https://twitter.com/em_com/ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/EstadodeMinas /  #Ábila #Cruzeiro #FalaAE

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00:00 You're telling a funny story, exciting, even exciting enough to remember the story.

00:06 But what about the "rancarrabo"? Have you ever had an interview like that?

00:10 I had, I had a terrible one with Abla. It was even a national subject.

00:15 Oh yeah? What happened?

00:16 I don't know about this story.

00:18 Abla attacking? He played for Cruzeiro? The Argentine?

00:21 It wasn't a "rancarrabo". Everyone thought it was a bit rude, but I was also a little unhappy.

00:29 For example, before I quote Abla, I'll quote Calil.

00:33 We were in an interview, you know how it works.

00:36 The guy is talking, and when he pauses, you say "it's over".

00:39 So you start asking questions.

00:41 And Calil was talking about a subject, and I was in that rush.

00:43 Calil, his way of talking, "why, I don't know, blah blah blah, see well, blah blah blah".

00:47 When he paused, I asked the question.

00:50 Then he looked at me and said, "can I continue to answer?"

00:54 I said, "please, if you'll excuse me, go ahead."

00:58 I put the microphone back on.

01:00 That's why.

01:02 He just answered, he turned to me, everyone was asking questions, and he was waiting for me to ask the question.

01:07 That was a point, he understood, I apologized, it's hard, you know how it is.

01:13 Sometimes a pause can seem like the conclusion of a reasoning.

01:16 And there are many journalists, sometimes it's a mixed area, a collective, right, Felix?

01:21 So you have 10 journalists, the guy scored, you're trying to get information for your VT.

01:27 You have a proposal, so you go there and ask, it happens.

01:31 And the fact that you're there asking, you're actually exposed.

01:36 The guy who's there to answer, he makes the decisions he wants.

01:39 With Abel, it was more or less the opposite.

01:41 It may be funny, I was doing a story to get the guy up, you know?

01:47 We don't do stories to knock people down, and I don't think your profile is that, nor is it the profile of the program.

01:52 We report, we're not judges of value, right?

01:55 If you're a commentator, you can give your opinion.

01:57 It was a cool story, you scored, and the guy scored.

02:00 He was answering someone there who was a little nervous.

02:03 When I felt that I had finished, I pulled the microphone, and asked the question.

02:07 Since no one said anything, he paused, and then he yelled at me.

02:11 "Can you finish answering me first?"

02:15 I was already in that rush, that anxiety to leave, that night thing.

02:19 "Please, answer me." But I got pissed.

02:22 When he came back to ask the question, I didn't know what to ask.

02:26 So I mixed Portuguese with Spanish, with Portuguese, it was a mess.

02:31 If you take it in context, it's ridiculous.

02:35 For me. But what could I do? Nothing. It was sad.

02:40 But you, I think, ended up doing it the right way, which is opening the microphone for him again.

02:45 When he asked, "Can I finish answering?"

02:47 He came back, finished answering, and when I asked my question, I got confused.

02:52 I think it gave me that disconcentration. We're all human.

02:55 But it happens.

02:56 I was extremely upset.

02:58 The reporter's question was, "Is that you?"

03:03 And the reporter was me. "This guy is me."

03:06 I said, "What the fuck?"

03:08 Today, with social media, there's a lot more of that, Pérez.

03:11 The fan is watching the journalist, "What a ridiculous question!"

03:15 It's happened to me, in Alter Egos Esportes, in some situations.

03:20 People don't understand that sometimes,

03:23 journalism, especially nowadays, is highly connected to entertainment.

03:30 We don't leave information aside. We need to be very clear.

03:34 But Alter Egos Esportes has a different way of passing the information.

03:38 The programs have changed.

03:39 Exactly. Today, everyone is on that line.

03:41 We pass it on to entertainment.

03:43 Sometimes, a question that seems to be just about entertainment

03:47 will be the link to the story, to bring some nice information.

03:54 There was a question I asked Arana, if I'm not mistaken, about the Day of Lies.

03:58 I asked Arana about that, about the Day of Lies.

04:01 He had lied before, maybe even playing soccer.

04:04 Then came the crowd, right?

04:07 The fans were like, "How can you? It's absurd!"

04:10 Instead of asking about soccer, he's asking about the Day of Lies.

04:13 But the story had to do with the numbers, with the athletes.

04:17 So, the story had a lot of information, actually.

04:19 But if you isolate a cut from a context, it will never be good.

04:24 Yeah, it happens.

04:25 The guy thinks about something, "He's asking about the Day of Lies,

04:27 he doesn't even know what he's doing."

04:28 No, man. We're doing a story about the Day of Lies.

04:31 So much so that we even leave it to ask for the last time.

04:34 Exactly.

04:35 We leave it to the soccer fans.

04:37 They ask for permission to leave the subject.

04:39 It happens.

04:41 And there are players who can't leave the subject.

04:45 Players who ask different questions.

04:47 They ask about politics, they ask about the situation.

04:50 "What do you think about this?"

04:52 They don't get into the subject.

04:53 (beep)

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