Arkansas Razorbacks offensive coordinator Dan Enos on what fans can expect to see this year and why he has quarterbacks practice under center in practices.
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00:00 Talk about how much influence I was on your 2015 team
00:06 and she had much influence on your career as a whole.
00:09 You know, that said, news, great player, obviously,
00:15 but just a wonderful person, great character.
00:20 Smiling, I say, you guys know who I am,
00:22 but practice really hard.
00:25 He's a great teammate, teammates love him.
00:30 He came to work every day, was super competitive.
00:32 That's what I love about him.
00:33 He just, you know, the bigger the moments a year,
00:35 I was here with him, the better he played.
00:38 Rushed from the 1,600 yards that year
00:41 and just did a tremendous job as a player,
00:45 but as a person, what a great young man.
00:47 It was fun to be around, fun to coach,
00:49 and it's just heartbreaking.
00:51 I had so much life left to live
00:53 and just a wonderful, beautiful person.
00:56 And then, you know, you read all the things
00:58 that his teammates say about him, not just here,
01:00 but his teammates in the National Football League
01:02 and stuff as well.
01:03 So, obviously, prayers to his family
01:05 and just a wonderful human being.
01:08 She's seeing the country, but how are you feeling
01:14 about the guys behind him?
01:15 Are they progressing along as well?
01:17 Yeah, we've got a good group, you know.
01:21 These guys work really hard,
01:22 Jacoby and Cade Thornton and Malachi.
01:27 They all come to work every day.
01:29 They got blue-collar mentality.
01:32 You know, this is -- you know, we grind it out,
01:34 so we meet a lot and everything this time of year,
01:36 and these guys are, you know,
01:38 great note-takers and listeners,
01:40 and it's a really well-rounded room.
01:43 We've got some young guys in the room.
01:44 You know, Ryker Acebo is in there with us, too.
01:47 And then we've got some elder statesmen with Cade and KJ,
01:52 so it's a really well-rounded room.
01:54 It's a very talented room.
01:56 But the thing I've been most impressed about
01:58 is the amount of respect they have for one another.
02:00 These guys are not in any way, you know,
02:05 jealous of one another and, you know, and all that,
02:08 which sometimes in quarterback rooms can be tough
02:10 because only one guy is going to play,
02:12 and everybody wants to be the guy that goes out there
02:14 when the game starts, and obviously, KJ
02:17 has really established himself here,
02:18 and I think it's really good to have him in the room,
02:22 especially for the younger players,
02:23 to watch a guy and be able to mentor the guys.
02:26 And I think it's really important for young players
02:29 to be able to have someone to look up to and watch and say,
02:32 "Okay, that's how you're supposed to do it."
02:34 And KJ and Cade Fortin both have certainly played
02:38 that role very well thus far.
02:40 Coach, on the topic of that 2015 team,
02:43 you had Brennan Allen and Alex Collins,
02:44 3,000-yard passer, 1,300-yard rusher.
02:47 What similarities do you see between them
02:48 and, you know, the backfield today with KJ and Rocket?
02:52 Very similar.
02:54 I think KJ's a great player.
02:58 He's obviously a big athlete that can really run,
03:03 but he's got really, really good arm talent.
03:05 He's a really good passer.
03:07 I mean, and when I say that, I mean that he can pass the ball.
03:10 He's not a thrower. He has great touch.
03:12 He can change the trajectory of the ball.
03:14 I've been very impressed with his ability to anticipate
03:17 and throw to guys before they're open and make them open,
03:20 and his ball placement has really,
03:22 really been, you know, really good this camp.
03:26 You can tell he's really worked hard in the offseason.
03:29 So I think KJ has the ability to be as good
03:33 as anybody I've ever coached, and I've coached some good ones.
03:37 And the same thing with Rocket.
03:38 I mean, this guy, man, he, you know,
03:41 you would think that he's a freshman that just got here,
03:44 and when I say that, his attitude and his demeanor
03:47 and the way he practices, he does not practice like a guy
03:50 that rushed for 1,500 yards last year
03:52 and has all these accolades.
03:53 He runs the ball and practices like a guy that's very hungry
03:57 that has something to prove.
03:58 And, you know, a coach told me a long time ago
04:01 is that when your best players are your hardest workers,
04:04 it sets the tone for your entire team,
04:06 and we certainly have that with KJ and Rocket.
04:09 They and Bo and a lot of these guys can work extremely hard,
04:13 but these two guys are as talented
04:15 as anyone I've ever been around,
04:16 and they're fun to coach because they want to be coached,
04:19 and they practice very hard.
04:22 A scheme from 2015 to bring it to this year's team?
04:25 You know, yeah, I mean, there are certain plays
04:28 that I always say stand the test of time.
04:30 So there's plays that, you know,
04:33 I've been running since I was a player and things like that.
04:37 So I think, you know, we always adjust and adapt and everything,
04:41 but there's, like I said, there's certain plays,
04:43 whether it be run schemes or protections
04:45 or route combinations that, you know, you look back
04:48 and you continue to run them every year
04:50 because they're good and they have good answers
04:53 versus different structure,
04:54 and they give your guys opportunities to be successful.
04:58 What's it like being back in Fayetteville
05:00 with Sam Pittman as now the head coach
05:02 and, you know, being back here?
05:03 What does that mean to you?
05:04 Oh, it was a really easy transition.
05:09 You know, it was a really easy yes, too,
05:10 when coach called me because of how fond I am of this area
05:16 and my family was of this area.
05:18 Living here for three years before, you know,
05:20 it's got wonderful fans, wonderful people, great support.
05:25 It's a very unique place.
05:26 It's unlike any other place I've ever been.
05:28 And so it was really easy.
05:30 And then to be back with coach,
05:31 I've always had a tremendous amount of respect for coach.
05:33 He, as an assistant coach, he was a tremendous technician.
05:40 He had tremendous relationships with his players.
05:43 And he was extremely, extremely hardworking in recruiting.
05:47 So when I saw the news a few years ago
05:51 that Arkansas hired coach Pittman,
05:53 it did not surprise me one bit that, A,
05:55 that he was a head coach because of his ability to teach
05:59 and communicate and recruit and work and lead.
06:02 And then, obviously, I knew how fond he was
06:05 when he was here of this place.
06:06 And so I thought, what a great hire immediately
06:09 when I saw the news.
06:11 And certainly coach has done a great job
06:13 and continues to build a great culture here.
06:15 And I think him and the staff,
06:18 because I haven't recruited anybody here,
06:19 they've done a tremendous job of recruiting
06:21 this football team as well.
06:23 Coach, taking you back to those times, '15, '16, '17,
06:26 players that were around that era
06:28 when you were announced as the hire,
06:30 one of the topics that they were bringing up,
06:31 like on Twitter and stuff,
06:33 was the trash talking between you and Ryan Pulley
06:36 back in the day.
06:37 Is that a you and Ryan Pulley thing,
06:39 or is there somebody else you identify as?
06:40 That was just a Ryan Pulley thing.
06:41 He started it.
06:43 So, you know, a man can only take so much.
06:46 But I think I never talk across the ball,
06:50 to be honest with you, never have,
06:51 unless it's a compliment.
06:52 Like, I'll tell a guy, "Hey, man, that's a great player
06:55 because, you know, iron sharpens iron,"
06:56 and we're all trying to be good.
06:57 But I think Ryan probably was trying to get under my skin
07:01 a few times and probably called me on a bad day.
07:03 So -- but then we made it into a fun thing, so it was good.
07:06 Yeah, the guys, I think, seemed to enjoy it.
07:09 Have you wrapped up install, and if so,
07:11 how is KJ feeling in the offense?
07:14 Is it second nature to him yet?
07:15 Still got some things to work on?
07:16 No, he's really progressing.
07:18 I like where he's at.
07:20 I really like where he's at from a run game standpoint
07:25 and a protection standpoint.
07:26 He's doing a really good job, I think,
07:29 of understanding our run game
07:32 and when things are not going to be good
07:33 or on the flip side of that, understanding,
07:36 well, this might be a really better play
07:38 based off the structure over here,
07:40 and he's doing that at the line of scrimmage.
07:42 And then also his ability to help us
07:44 in some of our five- and six-man protections,
07:47 getting on the correct blitzers.
07:49 He's grown a lot in those areas, really come a long way.
07:52 I feel really, really good about him.
07:54 He's a really smart, smart young man,
07:57 and he's very -- he's got great instincts.
08:00 And, you know, early in the spring,
08:02 he would say, "Coach, I was thinking about,"
08:03 and I was thinking about, so I talked to him,
08:06 and I said, "Listen, you're smart.
08:08 You have great instincts. Trust him.
08:10 You got something you think is right,
08:11 you're probably going to be right, so just do it."
08:13 And I said, "If you're wrong, we're going to fix it later."
08:15 So -- and I think he's really kind of taken to that,
08:17 and he's being more decisive with some of those decisions.
08:20 And, man, what a really, really smart player.
08:23 I mean, he's obviously talented, as everybody in here knows,
08:27 but, I mean, he's off the charts
08:29 as far as an intellectual standpoint,
08:31 as far as understanding football.
08:33 And he's -- every day, I think he's growing, and I really do.
08:38 I think he's got a whole -- I think he's got a ceiling.
08:40 I don't think he's even come close to reaching it yet,
08:42 either, so I'm very excited for him this year
08:44 and then into the future.
08:46 Finishing up on that, where were you with install?
08:49 Did you get it done early this week,
08:50 and what's kind of the focal point heading on?
08:52 We're now going into kind of, like,
08:56 miscellaneous things, if you will,
08:59 things that -- wrinkles from different things
09:02 that we want to do.
09:04 During camp, things always come up as well.
09:06 Like, you start doing something well, and you go, "Ooh,"
09:10 you know, "We might be able to do this off of that,"
09:13 you know, have complementary plays to your best plays.
09:16 And so we're still doing that a little bit,
09:19 but the majority of the install is all through.
09:21 We got the foundation in of what we're going to do
09:24 from a run-game protection and pass-game standpoint,
09:26 feel really good about it.
09:28 And now we've been --
09:31 what we've been doing with the scripts
09:32 is challenging them now, "All right, here's --
09:36 we got it all in, but now we're changing it.
09:37 We're doing it today out of this personnel group,
09:39 and we're going to do it today out of this formation.
09:41 We're going to do it today out of this motion,"
09:43 or whatever that is, and so we're trying to continue
09:46 to apply pressure but in a different way, if you will.
09:50 On the scrimmage, there was a lot of pressure
09:51 on the quarterbacks,
09:52 and then we had the old lineman in here talking about,
09:54 "There's so many protections," still trying to iron those out.
09:56 What was your take on the scrimmage?
09:58 The scrimmage analysis.
10:00 Yeah, I would agree with that, you know,
10:01 and I think that's -- it's really not any different
10:04 than any other scrimmage I've been in, you know.
10:08 These scrimmage situations are different
10:10 because it's not a game, you know.
10:12 You're trying to create a different situation
10:14 of football, and they -- in my experience,
10:16 they tend to be very pass-heavy because you play --
10:20 you do a whole series of second and ten, play third,
10:22 and you do a whole series of two-minute,
10:24 you do a whole series of this,
10:26 and so, anyway, I don't think that's unusual
10:30 that you have protection issues in scrimmages in fall camp,
10:35 but I do know this.
10:37 One thing we do is we don't, like, get conservative.
10:41 We keep going because we got to get better,
10:42 and we got to practice, and I think the other thing is
10:44 that I think we have a very, very talented defense,
10:48 in particular, in the front seven
10:50 as far as rushing the passer,
10:52 and so we want to challenge our guys, man,
10:54 and this is the best way to figure out
10:56 what we can do and what we can't do,
10:58 and it's the best way for our players to gain confidence,
11:01 too, because they're blocking really, really good players.
11:04 Dan, with KJ's in the pocket,
11:05 it looks like his feet are moving a lot more
11:07 than they have in the past.
11:08 How much of an emphasis was that when you came in?
11:11 Total. I mean, you know, that's just what I believe in
11:14 as a quarterback, you know.
11:15 You never -- you know, it's like writing in cursive, man.
11:18 You're always moving a little bit,
11:19 and your back foot helps you --
11:22 helps you with your clock, you know.
11:24 We build our back foot in with our clock
11:26 on when to transition, when we hitch,
11:28 we forward, we hitch, hitch, go,
11:30 we hitch, hitch, go, and throw, and everything like that,
11:33 so I think that your footwork is tied into your accuracy,
11:38 which is tied into your balance, which is tied into your eyes,
11:41 and it's so important in this position
11:43 that your eyes and feet are doing the right things,
11:45 and I'm really, really big on training the feet,
11:48 and we do a lot of different things with their feet
11:50 because they have to play instinctively with their feet.
11:52 They're not in the game thinking about
11:54 what their feet should be doing.
11:55 They're either doing it or they're not doing it,
11:57 and if they're not doing it, that's my fault
11:58 because I haven't put them in those positions
11:59 enough to make it natural, make it habit-forming,
12:02 so we spend a lot of time working on fundamentals
12:06 and stuff, and I know this summer,
12:09 we gave those guys a checklist of things
12:12 to do during the summer on their own,
12:13 and I could tell as soon as we came back
12:15 that they had done that, and KJ in particular, man,
12:17 his pocket posture is very, very good.
12:19 His eyes are good, and like I said, he's --
12:23 I haven't even -- you know, we blow it dead,
12:25 and we don't let him do some -- probably some of the best things
12:27 that he's probably going to be able to do,
12:28 and that's create plays on his own
12:32 and do some of those things,
12:33 so I think his ability to slightly move in the pocket
12:38 and get him in the right areas is also going to help his ability
12:41 to take off and go or take off
12:42 and find somebody down the field as well
12:44 and kind of have an off-schedule play.
12:46 -In your improved footwork, how much do you think that helps him
12:48 as an NFL prospect down the road?
12:50 And then I wonder, his completion percentages
12:53 have actually been better on downfield passes
12:54 than they've been on shorter passes.
12:56 Do you see him passing better in short?
12:59 -Yeah, he's been really good on intermediate and short throws.
13:02 I haven't noticed anything with that.
13:05 I agree. I think his deep ball accuracy is very good
13:09 and continues to be very good.
13:10 I mean, he's made some throws in the last couple days
13:12 with really great coverage by our secondary,
13:16 and he's put the ball in a place
13:18 where our receivers can make plays,
13:19 and I've been very impressed with that.
13:22 And, you know, I don't know about the NFL as far as that
13:25 because I think everybody has their own philosophies
13:27 and how they want to do things,
13:29 but, you know, I believe in training underneath center.
13:32 I believe in the offseason
13:34 that they should train under center a lot
13:36 because I think when you're under center,
13:39 it makes you more aware of your timing,
13:41 your rhythm, and your balance on your drops.
13:43 I think a lot of these young players
13:44 now don't play under center ever when they're young,
13:46 and I do think that that's a disservice
13:49 for these quarterbacks coming up
13:51 because I feel like that's when you really, really learn
13:54 and build a foundation of balance,
13:55 rhythm, and timing on passes,
13:58 and then you should transition back into the shotgun
14:02 because that's great as well,
14:03 but I think it's much easier to transition back
14:05 than it is to transition forward,
14:07 and I think it helps them develop as a passer
14:12 when they train under there.
14:13 So we do a lot of training in the offseason under there
14:16 for those reasons, and I train them in practice that way, too,
14:20 and we are under center some as well
14:22 because there's some things that fit what we do under center
14:24 better than they do in the gun,
14:26 but we're obviously very multiple
14:27 as far as we're going to be in the pistol,
14:29 we're going to be in the sidecar,
14:32 we're going to be under center,
14:33 and we're going to have the ability to do all those things.
14:37 Coach, I think there's been a lot of talk about,
14:39 you know, KJ, the entire offense
14:41 just kind of adjusting to your philosophy
14:43 based off what the, you know, the offense was last year,
14:45 but I'm curious, you haven't had really a quarterback
14:48 that's an athlete like KJ in a while.
14:50 Are you, you know, what kind of adjustments are you making
14:52 to kind of maximize him, and how does that work?
14:55 I think everybody I've coached is different, you know.
15:02 Like I told the quarterbacks the first night,
15:05 you know, we go through my quarterback commandments
15:09 and our philosophy of playing the position,
15:11 and I said, you know, one thing about this position is,
15:14 you know, I think I had six or seven guys
15:15 that I coached in the NFL last year,
15:17 and I said, you know what, they're all different,
15:18 and they've all taught me something.
15:20 They've all, you know, when I was young,
15:22 maybe I tried to put guys in a box a little bit or whatever,
15:24 but, you know, they're all different.
15:27 You know, Cooper Rush and Brandon Allen
15:29 are different from Jalen Hurts and Mac Jones and Tua,
15:32 and, you know, it's just I've learned from them.
15:35 So some guys are better at this and a little better at that.
15:39 My job is to try to make them equally as good
15:41 as everything as I can, find out where their deficiencies are
15:45 and try to make them their strengths.
15:46 That's my job, yeah, to figure that out.
15:49 But then at the end of the day, we're going to grow,
15:53 and we're going to be like, okay, here's what we do well,
15:55 here's what we do the best,
15:56 and we're going to do those things.
15:58 So I think KJ is a guy
16:01 that can do a lot of different things.
16:02 I think he could be a true dropback passer and get by
16:08 and be very, very good at it.
16:10 Like I said, he's got great eyes, anticipation,
16:13 great arm talent, but, man, this guy is a big,
16:15 really, really good natural runner.
16:20 He's got great vision. He sets up blocks.
16:22 I mean, he's a tremendous athlete.
16:25 I think we're going to find a nice,
16:29 good balance between letting him do the things
16:32 he can do with his arm and then also,
16:34 obviously, allowing him to do the things with his legs
16:36 and, at the end of the day, to make us
16:39 the most efficient offense we can be
16:40 to help our football team win.
16:42 And so he's a really good athlete,
16:44 and he's, again, I'm getting to know him.
16:48 I've gotten to know him, and he's different.
16:51 He's different than the other guys,
16:52 just like Jacobi Criswell is different
16:54 than anyone I've ever coached as well.
16:57 And you can go right down the list.
16:58 And like I said, I just --
16:59 I enjoy so much being around them and learning them
17:03 and listening to them, how they learn things,
17:07 how they visualize things.
17:09 But at the end of the day, they're all different.
17:11 Some are short, some are tall, some can run, some can't,
17:14 you know, but there's also some common characteristics
17:17 all the great ones have, okay?
17:18 And the first one is they got mental toughness.
17:21 They got physical toughness, and KJ has that.
17:24 And the next thing, the guys I've been around
17:27 have great humility about themselves,
17:29 and they understand that it takes more than just them
17:31 to be successful, and they put the team before themselves.
17:34 KJ has that as well.
17:35 And then the other thing that they've all had,
17:39 all those guys have had, is a tremendous amount
17:42 of competitiveness to them.
17:44 They have almost a chip on their shoulder, if you will,
17:46 like they got something to prove.
17:47 And KJ has that as well.
17:50 And then the last thing is just tremendous
17:52 functional intelligence,
17:53 the ability to take things from the classroom
17:56 and then functionally have that translate to the field.
17:59 And KJ has that as well.
18:00 So, like I said, they're different in a lot of ways,
18:03 but there's a lot of common things that they have in common
18:06 as well, and, man, this guy's a --
18:09 he's a unique player and a unique person.
18:11 And he's, like I said, I've already learned a bunch from him.
18:15 Can you expand just real quick on the quarterback commandments?
18:17 How long have you had those?
18:19 Did you just go through some of them?
18:21 Well, you know, some of -- we've gotten them
18:23 from different people, but, you know,
18:25 never make a premeditated decision.
18:27 That's one, you know.
18:29 Never throw the ball late over the middle.
18:32 You know, that's one. Never make a blind throw.
18:34 And then my last one is never throw and hope.
18:38 Okay, never throw and go, "Man, I hope that works out.
18:40 That's a bad deal."
18:41 So we say be aggressive, not careless.
18:44 And so those are kind of things we talk about
18:47 quite a bit in that room.
18:49 And I want to ask you about the guys KJ's throwing to.
18:52 What's your opinion of Teslaw and Armstrong,
18:54 and how confident are you that they can go to guys?
18:57 Very, very confident.
18:59 They've had tremendous camps.
19:02 Andrew and Teslaw, both those guys,
19:05 I think I saw them really take off
19:08 the last week of spring ball.
19:10 And they've continued right where they left off in spring.
19:12 They've both been very, very good this camp.
19:17 Have a tremendous amount of trust in them.
19:20 They're both at great size in athleticism,
19:24 and they both are very competitive,
19:26 and they both can catch the ball.
19:27 So we have a tremendous amount of confidence in those guys.
19:30 I think Tyrone is a guy that missed a lot of spring,
19:33 but I think he's had a really good camp as well,
19:37 and he's starting to step out a little bit as well.
19:41 Jaden Wilson as well.
19:42 Isaiah Cetania as well.
19:46 Like I said, we've got -- I know I'm missing a couple,
19:48 but we feel like we've got six, seven,
19:51 and then we've got the two freshmen
19:53 that are playing at a very good level right now.
19:55 We feel good about that room.
19:57 I think everybody's really disappointed about Sam,
20:00 Sam's injury.
20:01 Again, he was playing very well.
20:04 He's a really big, strong, athletic guy
20:07 that can run and is competitive,
20:09 and we're really going to miss him.
20:11 And he kind of brought an edge to practice every day, too,
20:14 the way he practiced and goes full speed.
20:15 And he certainly will be back better than ever
20:19 when he gets through with this,
20:20 knowing him the way I've gotten to know him,
20:22 he's going to have the right mindset
20:23 and attack that injury and be back better than ever.
20:27 But I feel really good about that room,
20:29 and then I think if you throw the tight ends in there now,
20:32 those guys are going to be able to make plays.
20:35 Luke, really, really good.
20:37 You know, Francis, Ty, Barquise, you know,
20:41 that room has changed
20:45 since they've gotten a little bit of time
20:48 to get older and bigger, and then a couple of them
20:49 just got here this summer,
20:51 and they've really, really meshed in
20:53 and are mixing in very, very well with the group.
20:56 You know, we've got playmakers, I think,
20:58 running back, tight end, wide receiver,
21:00 and I think we've got a very obviously good
21:02 playmaker at quarterback.
21:05 Coach, I wanted to ask you a little bit more about Luke.
21:07 Just, you know, as a freshman,
21:09 it doesn't really look like it at tight end.
21:10 You anticipate him having a big year as a freshman.
21:13 Yeah, I don't even --
21:15 You say he's a freshman, I go, "Oh, yeah, that's right."
21:19 Because he's been here as long as I've been here,
21:21 you know what I mean?
21:22 So I always think, "Well, is he in his third year?"
21:25 No, he hasn't even played yet.
21:27 "Coach, oh, okay."
21:29 But he doesn't look like that. He plays super fast.
21:31 He can run now. I mean, this guy can run.
21:34 And he plays a million miles an hour at practice.
21:37 He's super tough, okay?
21:39 He wasn't -- He was a little light,
21:42 you know, light in the pencil a little bit, if you will,
21:44 when he first got here.
21:45 But he's putting on some weight.
21:47 He's tougher than nails.
21:48 He really fights you when he tries to block you.
21:51 And now he's gotten his strength levels up and his weight up.
21:54 So I think he's going to be able to be a good guy
21:56 in the C area and block the run game the way we think he can.
22:01 And then in the pass game, he's a total mismatched player.
22:04 It's like having another wide receiver out there,
22:06 to be honest with you.
22:07 And the guy's got a really good feel for running routes.
22:09 And again, another guy, kind of like Tesla and Andrew,
22:14 that has really good size.
22:16 And when the ball goes up, he attacks the football.
22:19 -With Jacoby, I mean,
22:20 if something was to happen with KJ,
22:22 are you confident that he can step in when you guys again?
22:25 -Yeah, we feel really good about Jacoby.
22:27 I think he's had, you know, really good camp.
22:30 He had a really good spring.
22:32 He's got tremendous arm talent, like elite arm talent.
22:37 He can make throws in the windows.
22:39 I mean, he threw a post the other day,
22:41 like 60-some yards in the air into a breeze.
22:46 So he can make some of those wild throws
22:49 that a lot of guys can't make.
22:50 But then when you throw on top of it, that he can run.
22:53 He ran 21-plus miles an hour this summer, I believe.
22:58 He's a guy that can do them both, you know?
23:01 And again, he's a little bit different, too.
23:04 He's really smart, studies the game.
23:07 And, you know, we have a lot of confidence in Jacoby.
23:09 And I think he's just going to continue to get better.
23:12 -KJ has the second and third highest season
23:16 efficiency ratings in program history.
23:18 You know who's number one? -No.
23:21 -You're now in 26th and 166.5.
23:24 I was curious, though, is that --
23:25 do you have goals like that for KJ?
23:26 Do you have, like, a list, like,
23:27 we want this completion percentage
23:29 or any of that kind of stuff?
23:31 -No, you know, I've never really done that.
23:34 We just -- we kind of say we got to do
23:36 whatever we need to do to help the team win,
23:38 to be quite honest with you.
23:39 And I always tell the guys that if we do what we're supposed
23:42 to do to help our team win,
23:43 all that stuff's going to take care of itself.
23:45 So, no, I never really have.
23:47 It doesn't surprise me, though, because KJ, like I said,
23:50 is a really, really smart player.
23:53 And like Brandon, Brandon was an extremely smart player,
23:56 as well, and those guys both make really good decisions.
24:01 They both know how to take care of the football,
24:03 and they're both really accurate.
24:05 Again, they're different, you know,
24:07 but both very, very productive players.
24:10 -Real quick, just how's the offensive line coming together?
24:13 -Good. We feel really good about them.
24:17 I think, you know, they play --
24:19 they're playing a lot together now.
24:20 I think the cohesiveness of the group is getting better.
24:25 The communication's getting better.
24:28 But overall, I think we feel really good about those five,
24:32 and I think we're starting to really feel good
24:34 about the next five.
24:36 They're playing together and coming together,
24:37 and like I said, we go out there every day, man,
24:40 and we don't -- it's a battle.
24:43 I mean, we don't -- we practice hard.
24:45 I've been in a lot of places, and, you know,
24:47 we practice physical, practice hard,
24:50 and we're practicing against really good people,
24:52 and so that's going to help them grow.
24:53 And we're also -- we're practicing
24:55 against very good scheme.
24:56 It's very multiple.
24:57 So it's going to challenge your rules,
25:00 which I love about fall camp.
25:01 I love going out there and having our run game
25:04 and our protections and our routes challenged
25:07 by different things schematically from a defense
25:09 because it makes us, you know, it challenges our rules,
25:13 and we have to learn to play rule of football.
25:15 Again, we're going to go into a game
25:17 and have a really good idea what teams are going to do,
25:19 but there's also going to be moments in the game
25:20 where things are going to come up
25:22 that maybe you haven't shown your players during the week,
25:25 and if you've got good, sound rules to what you're doing,
25:27 you should be okay, and that's one thing
25:29 that has been really good about our camp
25:30 and for our offensive line
25:32 is to fight through those things these last couple weeks.