"Mulk Banana Republic Ban Gaya Hai...", Mustafa Nawaz Khokhar

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00:00 Quick, what was your first reaction when you heard this? I had heard his reaction on live TV. What was your reaction?

00:07 Whether the law was made or not, this debate should be kept aside.

00:11 Making a country has become a republic.

00:13 That in a country where this thing is not decided whether the highest office in this country has signed on the bill or not,

00:20 whether that law could be made or not, whether that law is operative or not,

00:25 all these things, now there are arguments from both sides, but ultimately the Supreme Court has to make the decision.

00:34 All these fine legal points that you have raised and questions, the Supreme Court has to educate on this.

00:44 But I am seeing it like this, Kashif bhai, this is a meaningless conversation.

00:50 This conversation has no benefit for Pakistan. This conversation has increased the crisis of Pakistan.

00:57 Today your stock market has fallen by 750 points.

01:00 Yesterday I was on your channel in Maria's program and I said there that see what reaction comes tomorrow morning,

01:06 let's see how the stock market responds. Today it crashed.

01:09 We are not ending the crisis in our country.

01:12 This crisis has started since the last dawn leak, it is now a cycle of 10 years.

01:16 And in this 10 year cycle, we are paying a heavy cost.

01:22 And all the costs, the fight between Ashrafiya is still going on.

01:26 It will continue.

01:27 And it will continue. But 25 crore people in this country are paying that cost.

01:31 Because of this crisis, no one is ready to invest in your country.

01:35 Because of this crisis, your economy is not working properly.

01:38 Because of that you have to do inflation, you have to take loans, you have to take loans on high interest rates.

01:42 And all the prices are now being paid.

01:44 So all our elite, including judges, bureaucrats, politicians, generals,

01:52 when will we sit down and resolve these issues?

01:56 We will keep our egos aside and we will decide to leave the fights and move forward.

02:02 Then this country will move forward.

02:04 I am surprised that where are we taking this?

02:07 We have been taking it for 75-76 years. Where else are we taking it?

02:10 I don't know what kind of actions are these.

02:14 Honestly, it's beyond me.

02:16 They have such big offices.

02:19 For God's sake, let's sit down and resolve these issues.

02:22 Let's save the people of this country from this crisis.

02:25 This crisis will take us down.

02:27 Before you come here, you are the Deputy Speaker.

02:30 I would like to know what procedure has been followed.

02:32 Obviously, you must have received the bills.

02:34 The bills that the President of Pakistan has sent back, we would like to see them on the screen.

02:40 Amendments have been proposed by the President.

02:44 On different laws, different things have been suggested by him.

02:49 That if this is done, it will be better.

02:51 There is an issue of human rights at some place.

02:54 At some place, he found something wrong with the amendments.

02:57 So he referred to Article 75(1)(b).

03:02 He has proposed all the amendments.

03:07 He has done it in Chand.

03:11 We don't have the rest.

03:12 It is possible that he has gone back without signing it.

03:15 It is possible.

03:16 I have received 4-5 bills.

03:17 Amir Ilyas Rana tweeted about it today.

03:19 Tell me, have you ever received a bill without a signature or a note?

03:26 You have said this and Mustafa has also said this.

03:32 When the bill is sent from both the houses to the President,

03:36 the President signs it and the bill is sent.

03:43 Secondly, when he returns it, he writes a note saying that he has objections to the bill.

03:50 Then it is sent to the Parliament again with amendments.

03:53 Or he sends it back to the President.

03:55 When it is sent again to the Parliament,

03:57 we approve it through a joint session.

04:00 When he does not send it again, we approve it through a joint session.

04:03 This bill, which he has talked about,

04:05 was on TV for 24 hours.

04:08 He said that the bill has been signed.

04:13 He said that I have been mislead.

04:15 He lied to me.

04:16 We live in a small office.

04:18 The President and the Prime Minister go to the Philippines on a daily basis.

04:25 They go to the Philippines to see if the bill is in their favour or against them.

04:28 They get the bill on the breakfast table.

04:30 The President and the Prime Minister definitely look at the bill.

04:35 Sir, the Prime Minister also said in a speech that he is the PM.

04:38 He said that there is a state within a state.

04:42 The problem is that let's be fair about comments.

04:45 What should we say?

04:46 Nothing. I am giving you a notice of remembrance.

04:49 I am giving you a notice of remembrance of the Banana Republic.

04:52 No, no, I am not giving him anything.

04:54 He is the PM. What is this?

04:57 Not the President. Say something else.

04:59 You tell me.

05:00 Why should I tell you?

05:01 The person who takes the most oath in the whole of Pakistan,

05:04 in every office,

05:05 he is saying that I say this knowingly or unknowingly that I did not do this.

05:10 You do not believe him.

05:11 Okay, look.

05:12 This is a fact.

05:14 Look, even in the party, there is one view.

05:16 Who are you?

05:17 Design, go out, do this, do that.

05:19 You must have seen a tweet by Farzullah Babar.

05:21 He said, "Isn't this the way of the party?"

05:23 You are taking him out like him?

05:24 Look, he is not on the tweet.

05:27 This is according to his wishes.

05:29 You are making people in the parties.

05:31 Why do you mislead us that you were taken out on the tweet?

05:33 This is not the second.

05:34 This is the second.

05:35 You are taking people to the party.

05:36 You wrote it, sir.

05:37 You were taken out on your wish or on the tweet?

05:40 He is my friend.

05:41 We were together in the university.

05:43 Answer the question.

05:44 What is taken out on the tweet?

05:45 Which flag are you working on?

05:47 You are asking the question.

05:48 You said that he was taken out.

05:49 We are going to bring people.

05:50 Now, one thing.

05:51 There are also those who are going to take out.

05:52 No, no.

05:53 I do not want anyone to leave our party.

05:55 We agree on this.

05:56 Let's debate on this that we have agreed to President's words.

05:59 We have agreed to his tweet.

06:01 He has given the promise of God.

06:03 After that, today he has ordered that my secretary be removed and this be brought.

06:08 For example, today we believe that he may have done some investigation and his secretary

06:12 may have done some wrong work.

06:14 So, the secretary who has defamed the President of Pakistan all over the world,

06:19 his punishment is that he should be transferred.

06:22 Then what punishment will he be given?

06:24 Do you think that investigations should be done?

06:25 I say that investigations should be done.

06:27 After that, whoever is guilty, if the President is guilty, his punishment is a very old pending.

06:33 When he broke the assembly of the anti-vote, then his old debt is still there.

06:37 But we still say that.

06:38 Anti-vote?

06:39 He broke the assembly.

06:40 The one that was broken just now?

06:41 No, the one that was broken last time.

06:42 Oh, last time.

06:43 The Prime Minister had sent him advice.

06:45 Yes, God willing, I will send you a gift of almonds very soon so that you can...

06:48 Sir, the problem is that you tell the President to make this decision.

06:51 No, I think he has sent the wrong advice.

06:53 Brother Hashim, there is one more thing in this.

06:54 What is this?

06:55 I am telling you...

06:56 The President has received the advice of the PM.

06:58 No, no, I am saying...

06:59 He has to act on that advice.

07:00 I am saying...

07:01 You say that this advice is not right, our advice is right.

07:03 How can he make a decision?

07:04 You are saying that I say...

07:05 Let's start with the debate on the end of the day.

07:07 I say that we accept President's tweet.

07:09 There should be an inquiry.

07:10 There should be an inquiry.

07:11 There should be an inquiry.

07:12 If that secretary or whoever did something wrong, should he be punished or should he be transferred?

07:15 He should be punished.

07:16 If it is proven.

07:17 Then why should he be transferred to the secretary?

07:19 I agree.

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