Durante participação no podcast "Fala AE" com apresentação de Lauro Lopes, o ex-lateral Carlos César, contou como foi a experiência de jogar com Ronaldinho Gaúcho no Atlético.
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00:00 The cool thing is that your growth story with Athletico
00:05 goes to the meeting of Athletico improving on the field.
00:10 Because after 2011, this complicated phase,
00:13 Athletico is vice-champion in 2012, Athletico is champion of Libertadores in 2013.
00:17 How did you experience so many titles and so many cool things?
00:22 Because I imagine that playing alongside Ronaldinho Gaúcho,
00:26 alongside Vitor, who is a great idol of the fans today,
00:29 you must have lived something spectacular.
00:32 Yes, there was a professional growth and a personal growth.
00:36 The professional growth was that you are always building brick by brick,
00:43 and one day dreaming of winning titles, until you actually get in...
00:48 I say it, we joke, right? We have become real players now.
00:52 Where you can start a season and think about winning two titles.
00:56 The mentality is different.
00:57 Now the fight is up there.
00:58 The fight is up there, you think about titles, make history.
01:01 And playing with Ronaldinho is that.
01:03 Ronaldinho came one day and said, "Look, the only one who is marked in the history of the club
01:06 is the one who is champion."
01:08 We had heard that before, but hearing from him, it seems to be different.
01:12 You have to be champion, you have to be champion,
01:14 so every game that comes in, you have to leave everything there.
01:17 And I used to joke, "Man, I don't..."
01:18 Did he give you a lot of tips, a lot of things like that?
01:20 He did, for sure. One of those things was that.
01:23 That was the word he said, that you have to make history, you have to be champion.
01:26 So you get on the field, you have to win the game.
01:29 It's one of the things I had in Atlético now, I commented with Carlos Alberto,
01:35 I said, "Carlos Alberto, there was a day when Ronaldinho came in..."
01:38 The football superintendent, right?
01:40 Yes, yes, yes.
01:41 A friend.
01:42 I said, "Carlos Alberto, there was a day when Ronaldinho came on the field,
01:45 he gathered everyone and said that there was no star there.
01:49 There was no star on that team, and if we didn't keep playing,
01:53 giving some passes on the field, hitting the opponent,
01:56 we wouldn't win anything. We had to keep going."
01:58 And that gave me more encouragement, because it came from him,
02:01 that it was a star.
02:02 So he showed the following, that if you have humility,
02:05 playing the football that has to be done, respecting...
02:09 I really like to say this, right?
02:11 Anyone who joins Atlético has to respect the club's identity,
02:14 understand the values.
02:16 The song itself says it all, it's a club of race and love.
02:20 If you don't give race, love, if you don't put your best on the field,
02:24 the fans won't care about the result, they'll care about your dedication.
02:28 It's about dedication.
02:30 It's like at home, if we don't respect the principles,
02:33 it's not about the result, it's because we don't respect the principles.
02:36 These values hit hard in the heart of the Atletico fan.
02:41 And we can't miss the fight.
02:43 One of the things I learned the most was that, professionally,
02:46 you have to have the desire to make history, win great titles,
02:50 respect the club's identity.
02:52 As a man, I had the opportunity to sit at the table with Gilberto Silva,
02:55 with Vitor, Leonardo Silva,
02:59 they are athletes that... Pierre, Junior Cesar,
03:02 they were athletes who had a good life off the field.
03:07 Something I didn't have until then.
03:10 And I learned from them. Prioritizing family,
03:14 building a good, healthy life off the field,
03:19 and also thinking about career building and management.
03:22 So I learned, I sat at the table, having coffee with them,
03:26 in that chat, not having to rush to go to the bedroom and sleep,
03:29 stay on the phone, no, it wasn't like that.
03:31 I sat at the table, the best were there, and I could learn from them,
03:35 both in career building, off the field,
03:38 and also on the field, having that winning mentality.
03:41 Carlos, you being this guy, in this time, in 2013,
03:45 this guy more focused, family, taking care of your career management,
03:49 of family management as well, how was it to live with Ronaldinho,
03:54 who was a little more laid back?
03:56 Because I imagine that Ronaldinho, in a good way,
03:59 he was a naughty boy, that way of him,
04:02 he was a guy of the night, we know,
04:05 he was a little naughty, Ronaldinho, in that sense.
04:08 How was it to deal with this situation,
04:12 being you, with personality, meeting the guy
04:16 who has a very good heart, that we know from backstage,
04:20 but who has a different identity from yours?
04:22 Man, it was to enjoy the time I was with him.
04:25 We didn't...
04:28 Do you remember anything remarkable, for example?
04:30 -Besides this talk, anything? -Besides this talk?
04:33 Inside the field, it was this.
04:35 Inside the field, he said, "Man, the opportunities are for those
04:39 who are there in motion."
04:41 He said, "The attacker doesn't need to keep screaming, asking for the ball.
04:44 If you move, the principle is, the ball will come to whoever moves first."
04:49 Because this shows that...
04:51 And the ball would come.
04:53 And the ball would come.
04:55 And off the field, it was all his simplicity.
04:57 It was all his simplicity, the smile,
05:00 the desire to give his best.
05:02 It was sitting at the table, even though he was a little bit of a dick,
05:05 but he was at the table, telling jokes,
05:08 playing games.
05:09 So, we wanted the time he was there to enjoy
05:12 all his professional knowledge.
05:15 Regardless of what he did off the field,
05:18 within the four lines, within the professional,
05:21 he was a guy who had more experience there.
05:26 Tactical organization, standing balls.
05:30 I don't know if I mentioned this before,
05:34 but when there was a standing ball and Cuca was going to organize a situation,
05:39 Ronaldinho organized it.
05:41 Who was going to be in front, if he was going to score,
05:43 those shots and those many goals with standing balls,
05:47 it was Ronaldinho who organized all that
05:51 so that we could enjoy the best of the cast.
05:54 I usually say that he was a treasure hunter of the cast,
06:01 because he was able to extract the best from everyone.
06:04 He enhanced the quality of each one.
06:06 And also with Bernard.
06:09 Bernard didn't score, he didn't score.
06:12 He adjusted Bernard's movement so that he could be in the best position
06:17 to score the dribbles he scored.
06:20 So one of the most important and powerful things for me
06:25 was to experience and see his ability to manage the team well on the field.
06:31 camp.
06:31 (electronic beeping)