• last year
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00:00 - Yeah, there were some Bitcoin Ken comments
00:02 that I think are clouding the issue.
00:04 Would you like to clear that up?
00:06 (upbeat music)
00:08 - You want a Ken in your life.
00:12 If you're not a Ken, you want a Ken around.
00:15 - You totally want to be a Ken.
00:16 We need more Kens.
00:17 I mean, we need Ken by the end.
00:19 We need like liberated Kens.
00:21 We need like, you know, it's about like all of us
00:24 getting to be all the things that we are.
00:27 - That's the thing.
00:27 Like I wanted this movie to be a hug for people
00:32 where they were.
00:34 And I think, you know, I mean, not to be sort of
00:38 to give away the whole thing, but like, you know,
00:42 where Ken starts out at the beginning of the movie
00:44 is Ken is like an afterthought and he's an accessory
00:47 and she doesn't really think about him.
00:50 She's not mean.
00:51 She just doesn't consider him.
00:52 And that's like pretty unsustainable.
00:55 You know, there's a lot to make fun of the Kens about,
00:59 especially in the beginning of the movie,
01:01 you know, kind of like how you see us in the trailer,
01:03 making, you know, trying to beat each other off all the time.
01:06 I think that's a, it's very indicative of like
01:08 kind of what the Ken mentality is.
01:10 And it kind of just comes from the fact
01:12 that we don't really do anything.
01:14 And so when we don't have any jobs
01:17 and we don't have any real purpose,
01:19 other than to kind of just be an accessory to the Barbies,
01:22 kind of really feel disempowered.
01:25 It's a, you know,
01:26 it's one of the just brilliant kind of ways
01:31 that Greta turned Barbieland onto, you know,
01:34 just flipped, you know, traditional gender stereotypes
01:37 over on its head and made the Kens like the butt of the joke.
01:41 And, you know, what you get when you don't have a lot
01:44 is like Ken start to just compete with each other
01:47 and get really nasty for no reason.
01:49 - Anyone who wants to beat him off has to beat me off first.
01:51 - I will beat both of you off at the same time.
01:54 - You don't even know how to beat yourself off.
01:55 How are you gonna beat both of us off?
01:56 - Oh my God.
01:57 - Ken, why are you getting yourself off?
01:59 - You're gonna beat both of us off?
02:00 - Nobody's gonna beat anyone off.
02:02 - I mean, Ken really evolves in this movie
02:04 past the place of just being a wonderful accessory to Barbie,
02:08 which to be fair, he was kind of invented to be something
02:11 that was included in Barbie's life
02:13 the way her material items were.
02:15 - Best job in the world.
02:16 - In the way that Ryan plays it, he's so funny,
02:19 but he plays it from such a deep place inside of him
02:23 that you really feel for Ken.
02:25 - I just don't know who I am without you.
02:27 - You're Ken.
02:28 - But it's Barbie and Ken.
02:31 There is no just Ken.
02:33 - I mean, I didn't really think about Ken's journey
02:35 'cause I just don't think about him,
02:36 but I do think that he goes through such a human experience
02:41 and he's so vulnerable and that's okay.
02:45 And he's learned so much and he only wants to be better
02:48 and he just wants to be loved by Barbie,
02:50 which is admirable,
02:51 but he becomes kind of his own man in the best way
02:56 by the end of the movie.
02:58 - Yeah, men also suffer under patriarchy
03:01 and I feel like that's the point of that part of the film.
03:05 There are so many points that the film makes,
03:07 but that it's not just women who are denied
03:12 half of their humanity by these boxes
03:15 that we place ourselves in.
03:16 - And I think that that is her journey and his journey
03:21 and where they come to with each other by the end,
03:25 that they each evolve in their own way
03:29 and that Barbie land improves
03:33 because it becomes a more egalitarian place.
03:37 I think it's like, I wanna be speaking to men and women.
03:43 I don't just want it to be one thing.
03:48 - I think Ken is confused.
03:50 It's just, and I don't know if he ever shakes that off.
03:53 I think that's relatable though.
03:55 I think it is confusing.
03:56 Life is confusing.
03:58 - I think as much as this is like,
03:59 there's moments where you get a great monologue
04:02 where it's like, what it's like to be a woman today
04:04 and what it's like to be a mom and all that kind of stuff.
04:07 It's also, I don't know, I think we are in this time
04:10 where guys are like, okay, what's my place right now?
04:12 Like, I'm a dude and I'm trying to be an ally,
04:15 but I'm trying to allow space and I'm trying to listen,
04:18 but I'm also trying to be there.
04:19 And I think Ken's journey is kind of informative.
04:24 - I love watching the evolution that he goes through.
04:27 I don't really know,
04:28 I don't know that there's a great takeaway for Ken
04:32 other than just a sort of a surrender.
04:36 Yeah, and to not trying to dominate.
04:42 - You know, I think Ken's kind of come face to face
04:45 with who they are, what they've become,
04:47 the journey that they've been on
04:49 and I think, well, I hope that they come
04:52 to a similar conclusion that anyone would
04:56 in that situation, which is that it's always better
04:58 to stick together and support one another
05:00 than to tear each other down.
05:02 And Kennergy doesn't always have to be aggressive,
05:07 horses, loud music and fur coats.
05:16 It can come from within and it comes from a sense
05:19 of comfort with oneself and a self-confidence
05:24 that isn't projecting and isn't insecure.
05:28 - Ryan and I have a thing where we text each other
05:30 because I think Kennergy is actually really positive,
05:35 especially when it's like self-actualized Kennergy
05:37 at the end.
05:38 - Yes.
05:38 - That's amazing Kennergy.
05:40 That's like what we all wanna be going to
05:42 is like amazing self-actualized Kennergy.
05:44 - Yes.
05:46 - Which women can have Kennergy too.
05:48 It's not just a man thing.
05:50 - You know, if you wanna get deep in the Barbie movie,
05:52 it's about kind of evolving as yourself
05:56 and knowing that you are Kenuff.
05:58 - Oh my gosh, it's hard to follow that,
06:02 but Ryan, what are your thoughts?
06:03 Not even gonna try.
06:04 - Welcome to the experience, I'm Mike
06:05 and I'm just Ken.
06:07 (laughing)
06:10 (upbeat music)

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