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Yourcinemafilms.com | Leading acting agents Nina Malone and Fela Oke from IAG Talent share key tips for actors trying to make it in the industry.

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Interview from Our Stories Festival 2023, presented by Your Cinema

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00:00 Please have your questions ready. I have a few questions so I'll start. I don't want to be an
00:04 actor but I have some questions that I want to understand that might help you guys but
00:10 yeah very soon we'll be throwing to the audience so please have your questions ready.
00:14 A closed mouth doesn't get fed isn't it? Are we ready to go? All right let's do it. Cool so
00:21 Nina and Fela. Cool you guys are agents. What does an agent do?
00:28 Okay hi. Right I think that's a very good question. I think a lot of people aren't clear
00:37 what an agent does, what a casting director does and what your job is as a professional actor.
00:42 So I spend my day talking to casting directors, directors, producers about our amazing talent.
00:51 I am trying to get meetings, self-tapes and just get my actors on their radar. That's what I'm
00:58 doing day to day for majority of my talent. For talent who are on jobs I'm supporting them. For
01:05 talent who have finished shooting we are talking about PR, strategy and what's next. That's yeah
01:14 part of what I'm doing today. A lot of it comes down to support as well. Thinking about the
01:21 actor's headspace. Are you in the right place to tape? What you need around you to produce the
01:27 best work you possibly can and kind of supporting them through that. Yeah every day. Yeah let me,
01:35 how's everybody doing? Don't look so nervous.
01:40 That question gets bandied around a lot right. You know what does an agent do? What does a manager do?
01:48 The fundamental thing we do is we are conduits to get you guys to where you want to get to.
01:53 That's what an agent does and Nina's explained the day-to-day
01:57 of what an agent does. The bottom line is we find you work.
02:04 You know there's no other way to sugarcoat it. You know there's this mystery around what we do
02:09 but really and truly we bust a gut every day to ensure that you guys are well prepared
02:16 for your self-tapes, to be seen by casting but the fundamental thing that you have to understand is
02:23 you have to do your part. You know and that's quite key. A lot of talent they miss that. They
02:28 think I've got an agent and that's it. I can go to bed at night and I'm good but if you're not
02:33 prepared then what we do doesn't really make any difference to your lives. So it's a two-way
02:39 exchange and that's how I like to say it. You know sometimes you know the objective is the same. Nina
02:48 and I have the same objectives but our methods might differ because we are individuals as well.
02:54 She's better organized than I am and yeah that's pretty much what we do.
03:02 Amazing. Cool so you guys are very clear on what your role is. What do you expect
03:10 your actors or your clients to do? Yeah I mean like I just try to you know explain. I think for me
03:18 the key thing is you know I'm gonna drop some corny gems here. The actor must be prepared right.
03:27 Nobody plans to fail as they say you know but if you fail to plan then nothing happens.
03:33 So you know IAG is a very unique agency because we are also attached to a school I dare say
03:42 and I'm going to use that as an example. So I dare say you're training three I think they do what
03:49 two days a week. Yeah. So like six to nine hours max. Your contemporaries at other schools are
03:55 doing 40 hours a week. So in between that so I need you as my talent to be as prepared as possible.
04:03 So whether that's looking at other opportunities to get to be trained constantly. Look at ways to
04:11 stand out from the crowd. I think actors you have to kind of understand that you have chosen probably
04:17 the most subjective career the toughest career to be in and it's not a joke and if you're in it to
04:24 be a star I always say to my talent if you're in it to be to become a star you're in it for the
04:29 wrong reasons. You know what I mean. So I always say you know you've got to really dig deep within
04:34 and ask yourself why am I doing this. Is this my passion or is this because everybody says
04:40 I can act. It's a massive difference and I think that's that's really a fundamental thing that you
04:46 have to take away. You must be prepared at all times. You must constantly train.
04:52 That goes from accent training. If I say how many people here can do an American accent
04:58 throw your hands up. Right. Is that because you've watched loads of Hollywood movies or you've
05:05 actually trained to do an American accent. Right. So very few people are trained. And is it a generic
05:14 American accent you're trained to do because a lot of people I'm asking that question because
05:18 a lot of people get it confused and they think well I can do have watched power and I can do
05:24 power. Well power is generic. That series is actually in the generic accent. I've made a lot
05:30 of actors who start focusing on doing a southern accent and I'm always like no hone your generic
05:38 American first. If I say how many people can do an RP accent here throw your hands up.
05:45 What's the RP accent. Nina over to you. Oh yeah. Yeah. Bridgerton. That's what she says. Right. So
05:54 it's that kind of training because a lot of the time you know especially for us as an agency
06:01 we're very North America focused a lot of our talent we're looking to build your career so we
06:06 can then you know open up Hollywood for you. And to do that your generic American must be
06:12 pretty much under 50 percent perfect. Perfect. Your RP must be damn near perfect. And everything
06:20 RP is that Shakespeare. No. You know it's just I see a lot of actors here saying no.
06:26 I'm not going to ask you to give an example. But so I think yes prepare prepare prepare. One of
06:33 our things is you know I.G. the work is the work is the work. That's really the fundamental thing
06:39 that we go by. And that's what we expect you to do. Yeah I think for me for talent what burns me
06:46 is when I want it more than the talent wants it. So if you are telling me you want to act
06:54 and we've taken you onto the agency I know my work ethic and it's upsetting if we send out a tape
07:03 and then we're chasing you for the tape. So if you're saying you want to do this then you've
07:08 got to meet you've got to meet me. You've got to meet us. You know meet the work ethic. It really
07:13 is a partnership. So all this stuff we're talking about your part is to stay prepared so that when
07:19 we're going out and saying yes they can do a flawless U.S. accent you can really do a flawless
07:24 U.S. accent. If you can't it's totally fine. And all of these things take time. None of this happens
07:29 overnight. It's absolutely a marathon not a sprint. But if you're saying you can do it then I'm going
07:35 to take that and run with it and tell everybody you can. So that's what I'm looking for just
07:41 honesty of where you're at and passion and professionalism communication. It's like any
07:50 other relationship. We are working together to present the best possible you that we can to try
07:56 and get the best opportunities and it's all an investment with that cast and director whether
08:01 you book the job or not. If we've sent your best tape you've had your best meeting then we know
08:04 you're on the radar and then next time I call them I'm a bit further on in the process and it all
08:11 leads to the next job you know the next opportunity which is what we're trying to do.
08:16 It's just get you in front of casting directors producers directors that's it you know that that's
08:21 our job to get the opportunity. Your job is to do your best work and then hopefully we move through
08:26 the process. I love that. Thank you. Thank you. I'm going to ask one more question this over to you
08:32 guys. Okay so you guys are both amazing at finding and looking after like new talent right.
08:41 How do you know when an actor's got something special?
08:46 You're just born with it. Do you know what I mean? I can see talent within 10 seconds.
08:55 I watch self tapes the first five seconds I know where this talent is going but that's taken me 25
09:03 years so let's not think you know I woke up and I was able to do it. My career I started out in music
09:08 managing talent in music and then kind of worked my way to film and tv and sports as well.
09:15 Sports talent is extremely is very different. Film and tv I would say is probably the hardest
09:22 but I also know talent that's got something you've got to be able to decipher between talent that's
09:29 there's potential now there's talent that can grow into becoming great talent and then there's talent
09:39 that's got it right now so I'm able to do all three but that's taking me 25 years to do.
09:48 Yeah I think 10 seconds and I think cast and directors being brutally honest can spot it in
09:55 10 seconds as well so again using that knowledge for self tapes put all your your killer stuff at
10:03 the front no filler for your show reels for your voice reels it really is just showcasing you in
10:08 the best of your work but but yeah I think at the start of your career just do the fundamental
10:14 things just do the basic if you're asked to self tape specific things self tape what they're asking
10:20 you to self tape if they haven't asked you for a night then do not send a night then it's just
10:24 those little things right that you at the start of your career you gotta stick when you become
10:30 great you can do whatever you want right or I would say to talent at the beginning of your career
10:37 do the fundamentals it's like anything do you know what I mean and and take it seriously you know
10:43 before and always understand that we agents and casting want you to win always remember that
10:51 they want you to win if you win we win casting wins so nobody's trying to set you up to fail
10:59 or anything like that your teachers want you to do very well right so always remember that as well
11:05 that's quite key thank you thank you thank you any questions from the audience yes go for it
11:13 hi my name is Aime Priscilla and my question is you guys are saying a lot like you want your
11:22 like talent to be very active very proactive and determined and stuff but as agents how do you feel
11:29 about your client like finding their own work is it about communication or would you rather find the
11:35 work and just let them like do the self tapes thanks yeah so for me I can speak from my perspective
11:42 and our agency ethos but this is how I like to work yeah I think as much experience as you can
11:49 on set is golden whether it's a good experience or bad experience it's still experience you need
11:53 to get as used to you need to feel as comfortable as possible on set right and if you haven't been
12:00 on a film tv set before there's lots of things happening it's like walking into a little village
12:05 everyone's got their roles there's a lot of jargon terms getting shouted out and you want to feel as
12:11 comfortable as possible because you also have to be able to do your best work so yeah as much
12:15 experience during that process getting the self tape me and the cast director it you have to get
12:21 through a lot of yeses to actually book a job um and to hold your ground through that process so
12:27 yeah for me personally as much experience on set as possible because I can use that as well on the
12:32 phones and you will use that the second you step on set the second someone actually books you your
12:39 whole molecular structure is different you walk taller because you're like as much as I can say
12:44 my actors are great you then start to believe it and there's this different type of validation and
12:50 usually what happens is that rolls on you start to book more but you need to understand yes I can do
12:55 it just how it feels to actually like I say go through that process so yeah for me as much
13:00 experience as possible yeah I mean I think at the end of the day is a partnership right and you've
13:06 got to respect that so there's a lot of trust between yourself and your agent once you've signed
13:13 with an agent you've got to believe in what you've signed you've got to believe that your agent will
13:18 do the best they can to get you to where you need to get to right it's okay to network it's okay to
13:24 but do it as a partnership I particularly don't like it when I've signed talent and they're also
13:32 you can network and meet people but you've got to do it as a partnership and keep me informed
13:38 do you know what I mean because it's at the end of the day that's why people like Denzel have had
13:43 agents for 30 35 years because it's a it's a relationship you've got to treat it like that
13:50 amazing amazing another question um who is doing the mic yeah you guys choose
13:55 hello uh my name is Dorothea Darby hi Nina um I just wanted to ask you mentioned uh conduits
14:06 agents being like conduits to help get us where we want to get to but um in terms of being proactive
14:12 and stuff what other ways can we as actors be proactive to help you guys help us get us in the
14:19 rooms that we want to be seen in does that make sense yeah I think casting directors in the first
14:27 instance are gatekeepers for us both so as much knowledge you have on on them as much intel as
14:34 much understanding of how they work and they all work very individually so basically following
14:39 cast directors on socials good start understanding producers understanding who directors are just
14:46 knowing this market and and knowing the gatekeepers I think you could all be doing um that's one of
14:52 them socials any networking deal outside of that great spotlight has the monopoly in this country
14:58 um so all the other sites you could be on Mandy backstage star now there's a lot of
15:07 crap on there there's also some gems and again all an understanding of the like the process
15:13 um I think is useful and then just maintaining your craft is massively useful I know I've said
15:20 it before but when people say they can horse ride and they can't horse ride those sort of things are
15:25 really really tricky so everything you've put on your spotlight I use daily to try and get
15:32 meetings opportunities self-tapes so it's maintaining those skills um and seeing how
15:38 expansive and comprehensive you can be on those skills again we use everything so if you think of
15:44 bare burnt boiling point the like the resurgence of um the kitchen dramas going into those meetings
15:53 they were asking us for talent who have had hospitality experience barista experience
15:57 silver service if I know that that makes it much easier and that that knowledge can make me tip it
16:02 over for me to get a tape and that is what we're trying to do as many tapes as many meetings as
16:07 possible um to give you opportunities so all our information is is really useful for me so
16:14 creatively yes great to know if you can sing dance great to know combat but also life skills
16:19 is useful and as expansive as possible the swimmers on Netflix they asked us for who can swim who can
16:24 feel comfortable in water but specifically open water that sort of stuff you know we need to know
16:30 yeah I mean I think a lot of actors forget that um acting is about experience right
16:36 life experiences and a lot of you guys you leave that out of your resume you know what I mean if
16:42 you've worked part-time if you've you know when I was growing up I've done so many different jobs
16:47 right I've been a I've been a barber I've worked at a nightclub um you know all those things are
16:54 part of your skills it's not necessarily a horse riding RP no that that's those are things you can
17:01 be trained specifically for acting but there's stuff you do extracurricular stuff that you do
17:07 don't be you know don't be afraid to put that down um and and it's it's and that's quite key
17:13 yeah like call the midwife for instance asks us for anybody who's had caregiving experience any
17:18 basic CPR all of that sort of stuff um yeah really useful wow um yeah so you know that when I find
17:28 out stuff I find it so interesting yeah no you choose I'm not locking eyes with anyone
17:33 hi I'm Catherine um my question is what would you advise be to someone they've just finished
17:41 drama school um they haven't necessarily done like credits before you know in terms of booking
17:50 a job while doing um drama school so they've left drama school um and they're trying to figure out
17:58 where do I begin where do I start for looking for an agent because it's it's such a minefield
18:05 to someone who's so new to the field to try to work out okay I start here then I go on to the
18:12 next thing and then I go into the next thing even just even like getting on spotlight is
18:17 even a challenge in itself so if like you have got enough experience and study or or credit it's like
18:26 where would you give advice in terms of where to start for that person if that makes sense
18:34 yes so the question is where to start in terms of looking for an agent yeah research
18:41 what I always say to talent is you have to understand what it is you want out of this
18:48 for yourself that's the very first thing you need to do why are you doing this right um there's
18:54 you know if you if I break down in LA there's about there's 500 agents agencies not the top
19:03 top five right so that's there's about and I think daily there's about 250,000 roles that go out
19:10 but always remember the top five agents have first dibs and then all of those roles you know um
19:15 sorry there's 250,000 actors going for I think there's 450 roles I forgot the data and stuff
19:22 like that but I'm saying that to say before you even start looking for an agent you've got to
19:30 decide what it is you want out of this because there's a million of us out there there's the
19:34 pretenders you know back in the day when I lived in New York do you remember those days when the
19:39 fashion agents will ask you to pay they'll ask you to pay a thousand dollars bring your five by
19:46 eight and we'll do whatever whatever first of all never pay anybody to represent you
19:52 right if you do that you're setting yourself up so that's the first rule
19:59 um and then just research you can start by saying the top 50 agents in the UK um you sound
20:08 where are you from right so you could you could narrow it down to your you know local area right
20:17 um and and you know and just start with that you know but research have conversations network come
20:26 to things like this and meet people but don't what I'll do not put yourself under so much pressure
20:34 this is a marathon as Nina said right you're not going to be it's not going to happen tomorrow
20:42 it may do but it may not happen for another year right but if you put too much pressure on yourself
20:48 you probably choose the wrong agent you probably choose somebody that just wants to sign a lot and
20:53 you just become a number and then you'd be wondering why you're getting one self-tape every
20:57 six months right I would always say research research research know the industry the last
21:03 thing I'll say before I hand to Nina a lot of you guys don't understand the business of film
21:08 the business of acting you don't understand the business of the industry you're in you just
21:13 understand I want to act right you've got to understand the business you've got to learn
21:18 the business you've got to know how to you got to know marketing promotions PR social media you've
21:26 got to start understanding the business you want to put yourself in because then nobody can pull
21:31 the wool over your eye if you don't know the business I can say anything as an agent yeah
21:39 I'd even go as far as to say it would be good to have some experience or understanding of what
21:44 a producer does a director does and a casting director does like if you ever had work experience
21:49 in those offices or on those sets that would be useful congratulations on finishing drama school
21:56 well done I think what's most useful for an agent is some amazing headshots that are a true likeness
22:06 of you that can show emotional range but also age range so that would be a good start to have
22:14 a think about headshot photographers that you can connect with have a think about colors necklines
22:20 everything to make a great shot for yourself some material is also really useful for an agent so you
22:27 don't have to go and spend necessarily big money on a showreel but a strong banging self-tape that
22:34 shows your acting chops very useful a duo scene not a monologue is useful that's how casting directors
22:42 taking information they're never going to send out a self-tape request which is a monologue is always
22:47 going to be a partner they're looking for your natural reactions so to have a self-tape showing
22:51 that would be useful obviously not something too famous because just going to think about the
22:56 original scene the original actors also like fella said yeah research agencies research their ethos
23:06 have a look at who they represent have a look at if you can speak to or connect to any talent that
23:12 they represent you can see this on social some agencies also release their client list we don't
23:19 but some do if you can't see that you can also check the agent on imdb the agency and the agents
23:26 then you can see again the client list and you can see what sort of work they're doing and then
23:31 yeah speak to them speak to the client see what their day-to-day is like like see what their
23:35 communications like understand what you're looking for an agent and it is a partnership do not just
23:40 go and take the first agent that offers you representation because it's exciting and you
23:44 want to get rep it's not going to work that relationship so have a think about what you
23:49 want as well it's it's you both going into an equal partnership again never spending any money
23:56 ever to an agency that is a scam and you have to be careful about that and there are a lot of scams
24:01 out there for spotlight have a look at their entry criteria they've recently changed and kind of
24:07 export expanded their their quota so it is it's still a very guarded platform but it is easier
24:16 than it used to be to get in so have a look into that being self-represented on spotlight is still
24:22 better than not being on spotlight it's that powerful a platform so look at everything you can
24:28 do and then for you thinking about the skills that you possess is also really useful for an agent this
24:35 is all your USP that you're going to go into with the agent this is your ammunition that you're
24:40 going to speak to them with so have a think about what that looks like for you and then just
24:44 maintaining that USP those skills so that when you're having your meetings and you're sending
24:50 your emails you're presenting your best you possible because yeah first impressions in that
24:57 sense really matter again it's kind of 10 seconds you kind of tell if the if there's a connection
25:04 pretty pretty fast in those conversations. Wow yeah you guys have just poured like thank you
25:12 thank you I've got a question and then we still still want your questions but I just had a thought
25:19 in this day and age like where do you guys typically find new talent?
25:22 We're just a unique agency right we've got IDSA the school but you know Nina and I
25:30 because of my background I look for transitional talent if you're from music sports I'm always
25:38 looking for those kind of talent that want to transition into film and TV but talent every
25:43 we look everywhere to be honest you know I can be sitting here but I can tell people who got
25:50 something body language speaks a lot do you know what I mean always remember to be on your best
25:56 no matter how you're feeling because you just never know so I'm always looking for talent
26:02 everywhere I may not sign talent all the time and just to add to what Nina was saying I don't put
26:10 who I represent anywhere but that's not because I'm being secretive I just don't think I need to
26:16 you know what I mean if you want to have a conversation you can always reach out
26:21 but keep the emails short because I do receive some air we do receive some essays we do receive
26:28 some essays don't tell me your life history be very direct my name is X I've done this
26:35 I'd like you to rep me all right with the direct thing I had a representation email
26:41 last week and on the CV it said I am good at talking to friendly pets like and um she signed
26:54 him you're in so yeah it really is like I was saying knowing did you actually sign him no no
27:01 I didn't no no no but but you know it was it was fun to receive um yeah I think you I think you've
27:08 got to be you got to be relevant but we get talent yes so being honest we probably get 10 to 15 well
27:14 yeah we get 10 to 15 email requests every day all of us across the agency we also get a lot of inbound
27:21 coming to our open email address casting at I get dms I get every single platform possible
27:29 in the street on the train coming everywhere and we're scouting everywhere as well so you know it
27:36 must be said right Nina and I work for the same agency but we actually work in a very different
27:41 way do you know what I mean she's extremely more open than I am true um you know but I just work
27:49 a certain way do you know what I mean I think it's important for you guys to know that agents are very
27:54 different yeah we're not all the same but the objective is always the same our methods are very
28:01 very different do you know what I mean I think it's because of a modeling background she gets
28:08 a lot of that so we capitalize on that my music background or sports background we capitalize
28:13 you you just got to know what your strengths are um and um but one thing I always say and I'll say
28:19 it here you know don't approach me with a five by eight and that's not me being rude I'm not I'm
28:26 not coming here to look for talent I'm coming here to share knowledge do you know what I mean um
28:32 but I will say you know my name so finding me on Instagram is very easy so approaching me that way
28:40 it's also cool but there's a time and a place for everything and I have to say that so that there's
28:46 no awkward interaction you know and that's just me I mean I keep it I keep it 100 you know that's
28:54 what you get from me as an agent as well I keep it 100 with you if your self-tape is whack I'll
29:01 tell you you know what I mean because there's no point me sugarcoating because you need to be
29:06 ready for that cold world Demi knows what I'm talking about because he sees actors every day
29:12 he knows that's why he's laughing I love that um fella sorry we are going to come to you guys but
29:19 you said something so interesting right which I haven't really I haven't heard from an agent
29:24 you said keep the email short which I which to be fair we do here but then you gave like three
29:31 points right and I guess what I'm thinking is that doesn't feel personable right but it sounds like
29:39 you don't mind no so there's a there's a reason right I come from a very before this life I was
29:47 in the corporate world for about 10 years after law school I worked in the corporate world at
29:52 very high level so I was extremely used to long-winded emails and all they wanted to say
29:58 fellas are you available for lunch but you know what I mean good afternoon fella how are you
30:04 my name you don't know I mean that's long I like things to be I can tell by you sending me
30:09 a very very short sharp email that tells me you know exactly what you want out of me that's all
30:17 I ask you to do right the other stuff if we get to a point where we send one-on-one and we're
30:23 gonna have a meeting I'll get to know the other stuff that's just how I work I just want to know
30:26 who you are where you're from what you're looking for and what you want from me right the other
30:34 stuff some agents like the long history and I've done this I did cabaret and I did this I don't
30:41 need to know that that's just me right I'm saying all this to show you that we are very different
30:46 we're not agents we're not one in the same you know some people like the long conversations
30:51 I just like because of the amount we receive my days are extremely our days are long
30:58 Jeremy I have to drag her out the office most times Nina can be at the office till 10 11 at
31:05 night because our days are long so you if you think you know the amount of talent we rep
31:10 and having to give each one personal treatment your days get extended if you didn't have to
31:18 deal with long emails phone calls and all of that stuff then you know it makes the job no longer fun
31:26 right and hence why I just prefer short sharp communication on my whatsapp it says short sharp
31:33 comms it says it even my family they all know
31:39 fella's got an out of office on his whatsapp that's how seriously he takes it
31:46 I love that um so going off of what fella said right Nina are you are you similar I think
31:55 what an agent really needs to see is a headshot I if you have a spotlight link a spotlight link
32:01 and if you want you could put in what you've been up to but again like a like a self-tape we can see
32:12 immediately what's going on for the long email if you wanted to list off your history we can
32:18 also see that through a showreel and your cv so there's no actual need to kind of duplicate the
32:23 information but yeah we can see it instantly if there are no credits I look after developmental
32:28 talent I'm very used to working people who have no credits and you just have a headshot and that's
32:32 what I'm working with um so if you don't have credits you can't lie you know we can only work
32:36 with where we're at so it's fine but what yeah what we need to see is a headshot a bit about you
32:42 and a link to any work that that is it we can make decisions if there's any interest and where to
32:47 move forward from that can I just say caveat right the short sharp emails the other stuff I I know you
32:53 should have if you're in this world you'd have a headshot you'd have your showreel all of that
32:59 stuff so that's what I'm saying that you know that the email is short on the showreel I think the
33:06 world has moved has changed a little bit right the days of getting your friend to shoot you with some
33:12 funky showreel and you acting those days are gone if you have credits use them if you went to drama
33:19 school use kind of footage from there I don't think I ask my talent to hide their showreels on
33:26 on on um on no Nina doesn't don't worry about that um because sometimes I think it gives it
33:35 doesn't give proper representation of you as a talent if it's showreel that's not based on
33:42 credits if it's you know the days when talent would um put together showreels based on made
33:51 up scenes and those kind of things it's just too competitive for that nowadays amazing amazing yes
33:59 questions from the audience um yeah no I'm not choosing yep you choose
34:04 hi my name is Tommy um I had a question about how an actor let me say a new client that has
34:15 a reading or something can add to help you guys show we have green light power so um some people
34:22 would have done projects and you know okay they can get a project done or a movie shot but if
34:27 they're new how do they prove that we can do it and they just have the talent or just the skill
34:33 a great self-tape because you're not going to have any credits so what we need to see is a headshot
34:41 a great self-tape and if you can accents ideally us accent what we deal with what I deal with daily
34:50 is own accent London or neutral southern accent and a us a general us the majority of the talent
34:58 that come to me do not have any credits so the for the first jobs that they're the first time
35:05 they're on set are the first jobs that we're booking these are the first times they've got
35:08 self-tape so it doesn't bother me or deter me at all it's a headshot and and that you can act
35:15 that's you know that's what I need to see yeah yeah and you know that's the other unique thing
35:21 about IEG is we have a developmental side to the agency so we do understand that you don't have any
35:27 credit um will help you as agents to understand what you need in terms of your self-tape and we
35:36 take a risk you know we can see talent we think you've got something um all I have asked talent
35:42 is to continue to believe in yourself do you know what I mean it's it's it's a hard career you've
35:48 chosen but commit to it and anyone who's auditioning later you hear me say this commit casting want to
35:57 see you commit directors want to see so if you get to believe in yourself from an early early
36:03 standpoint in terms of your career and you start committing to a good self-tape good headshot etc
36:08 etc then we will do our best to get you seen right and just keep going just keep going that's what I'll say
36:18 next question thank you thank you
36:22 hi my name is Norea um my question to you guys is do you guys represent international actors
36:37 that are not based in you in the UK um who don't have the paperwork very important that I mention
36:45 this um because I are you okay I'm trying to breed um yeah yeah that's my question
36:56 so you're from where you don't need the mic you can project
37:07 okay you're dutch right no we don't really rep uh paperwork is a tricky thing so um
37:15 no we don't for just for your understanding for um for global projects to even get the self-tape
37:25 they're going to ask us about working rights to go into those conversations we have to talk about
37:31 the dates that our talent's clear what rights they have do they have a valid passport even for
37:36 commercials we have to show passports that have been that have validity for at least six months
37:42 and what type of passport that is to even apply for the commercial um so production need the
37:47 working rights to be able to book you on the job for our british talent working on us projects if
37:54 it's a lead role we can get you visas production get you visas but it's it's based on the level of
38:02 role um so it's going to come down to working rights which is it's a production thing not us
38:08 it's legally what they need it's like any employer they need to show the rights to work so
38:12 we rep talent across the world we rep talent with various different passports very different
38:18 working rights various different visas but you do need the rights to work in one of the territories
38:24 uk or the us or the ability to get a visa to be able to do that they're going to ask us
38:31 in the first instance
38:32 so something to look into
38:36 thank you for that insight thank you thank you yeah let's have some some questions from over here
38:44 yeah hello how you doing i'm jonathan by the way um i just wanted to ask you said um fellow
38:53 what do you want out of um the industry and what do you want um specifically for actors who like
38:59 are trying to get hired and want um all of these um things about um your accent and all of the um
39:06 and you may you may not have experience in accents and all of um all of that how would you go about
39:13 basically training yourself to tick every box basically if you was to give a checklist of
39:18 what you would want your talent to have what would it be like a fast truck test list even
39:24 though it's a marathon like what would you want your actors to have so that they're ready to go
39:31 on set and smash it that's why i'm asking you know for me first of all one thing at a different
39:41 that's time to feed the dogs
39:49 um you know at different levels i want different things at the developmental stage i know that
39:58 you're just starting out so all i really want at that stage is confidence the ability to self-tape
40:04 and understanding within yourself of who you are and what you want out of this and the desire
40:15 it's a key word right you're gonna have the desire to want to do this you know what i mean i sit with
40:21 a lot of talent um and i can tell if this is just a pipe dream you know what i mean you've really
40:30 got to be able to say to yourself and sit in front of not just me any agent and convince and be
40:37 convincing so confidence is very key training you will get it at the you know we know you will get
40:43 trained as time goes on but for me initially all i want to see is of course i want to see that you
40:49 you've got the you've got the initial potential right and i can see that immediately because
40:56 to even get in front of us will ask you to read for us either you come to the agency or you do
41:02 a self-tape or we do it over zoom or something like that but fundamentally for me as talking
41:09 about me as an agent i confidence is key and understanding the way you want to get to that's
41:14 just how i work if i can see that you understand where you want to get to it makes my job very easy
41:20 the other stuff at the beginning we can do if you're a mid-stage talent and i need you to have
41:26 take the accent box you know maybe some other i repped the talent in the states many years ago
41:34 who could handle every gun you could think of right he right down to the ak-47 and i'm not lying
41:42 but that was something he was interested in right um which was a bit spooky initially
41:48 you know what i mean but that's to me that's something quite unique right um but and then
41:57 at the top level of course is the professionalism all through actually professionalism i would say
42:03 to students you need to be professional from now so anyone that's auditioning later be ready
42:10 because if you're not professional you're leaving that room and i ain't messing around yeah
42:15 no i think it's a good point and i think you need to know what you want to do so if you're coming to
42:22 us saying i want to be in game of thrones house of dragon i want to do these mythical things then
42:28 horse riding is going to come up swords is going to come up combat is going to come up if for wheel
42:34 of time for those shows to get the takes we have to show action reels and they're coming to us for
42:40 actors who have some sort of understanding or interest or passion and physicality so when this
42:45 guy can do all this with the guns it's about can you hold a gun or a sword and look like it's
42:51 something that you are interested in there are some people who do not want to work with weapons
42:55 some people do not want to work with animals some people do not want to work with children if that
42:59 is something you want to do if you do want to be in action if you do want to work in like the mythical
43:03 sphere then yeah horse riding swords is all going to come up they are not looking for professional
43:11 stunt performers that is a special performer and that goes through a different um network and you
43:17 have to have a different accreditation they're coming to us for actors who have some sort of
43:21 passion about physicality so all we need to be able to show is that first of all if it's horse
43:26 riding not allergic to horses and second of all you have some sort of understanding physicality
43:31 so for me just um a clip of you in a studio doing some boxing you on a bike you running all of that
43:39 i can go and take to all the time casting directors and say this person is physical
43:43 if you then get the job they will put you on a horse training camp they'll put you on swords
43:49 they'll do all of that before you go on to set so it's just understanding of what you want to do
43:53 so when you're saying what boxes do we need to check the basics we need a headshot and we need
43:58 a variety of headshots to show age range and emotional range male presenting humans if you're
44:04 looking to play down you need to shave we need to be able to show you can play to the youngest of
44:09 your ability and to the eldest of your ability um everybody can do different hair looks everybody
44:15 can think about different necklines everything about different body postures it's going to show
44:18 age range and emotional range we need a great self-tape if you've got spotlight we need a
44:24 spotlight link if you want to work on a variety of projects accents there are lots of our talent
44:31 filming in the states but there are us productions like jack ryan jack reacher they film here
44:37 everybody you see on jack ryan are using their it's british talent using their american accents
44:44 bar the leads that is british talent that's how flawless the us accent has to be so all of these
44:51 things give us ammunition to go and have these conversations so for me that's the checklist
44:56 the headshot spotlight link if you have it um and a show reel and then for you and understanding what
45:01 you want to get into i.e if it's marvel and action show us that you can be physical if it's bridgerton
45:07 you need to tell us that you're not allergic to horses and you've got some understanding of how
45:11 to like you've seen a horse before that helps us um yeah and that's it so it's coming from you
45:18 really i'm taking your lead the talent sorry just a quick quick quick one to all you west africans
45:24 here how many west africans here right okay let me tell you something right what i'm
45:34 when you're asked to do a generic west african accent a lot of people fail
45:40 which is embarrassing which is embarrassing for me because i'm nigerian right so that's what i
45:47 mean about just understanding these things do you know what i mean the southern africa is even harder
45:54 but i'm looking at my nigerian ghanian i'm like what accent is this and this this this is a real
46:02 example you know james samuels pins and needles the biblical epic that's happening right now they
46:07 called us and asked us for west african accented english send us your voice reels that's another
46:12 thing as well voice reels if you can't do it don't do it if you can then send us your best stuff and
46:17 we have people on that production from voice rolls alone but good good accents yeah you actually you
46:25 know i think being nigerian that my nigerian accent is okay right but studios and producers
46:34 may have a different idea you know what i mean so you have to learn it from that perspective
46:40 not the one you and your friends chop it up with do you know what i mean you know it's really
46:45 listen it's it's it sounds funny but i just want you guys to understand what this industry is
46:51 really about do you know what i mean it's it's it's key that you study what you're entering into
46:59 do you know what i mean conversations like this are useful and you know before i forget i really
47:06 just want to thank pierre for having us and thank the team because i think these these conversations
47:12 are very important

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