Hoosiers Now Podcast 1: Recapping Indiana Football's 23-3 Loss to Ohio State
Hoosiers Now Podcast 1: Recapping Indiana Football's 23-3 Loss to Ohio State
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00:00 Hello, everybody, and welcome to what I guess we'll just call the Hoosiers Now podcast for
00:07 the time being. We don't know what we're going to call it. This is a bit of an experiment,
00:12 kind of like Indiana's offense yesterday. My name is Daniel Olinger. I write for HoosiersNow.com.
00:18 This is Jack Ankeny. He also writes for HoosiersNow.com. Jack, say hi to the people.
00:22 What's up, everyone? Excited to talk some I.A. football.
00:26 I hope I didn't butcher your last name there because we've worked together for two months.
00:30 No, you got it better than most people on the first try.
00:33 Yeah, so you all pretty much saw the game yesterday. Indiana lost 23 to 3 to Ohio State.
00:39 And what I would describe as one of the more dull, like cover the spread games against a top five
00:45 national team, basically like very reminiscent of an early 2010 Alabama loss where they just sit on
00:52 the other team for the entire game and nothing happens. But what's pretty exciting for a bit in
00:58 the first half, Indiana with a big interception from Philip Dunham kind of got some life in the
01:02 game, made it 7 to 3. Controversial fumble pass and completion decision near halftime,
01:09 let Ohio State go up 10 to 3. And from there, like as what you'll hear us talk about most of
01:13 the time, the Indiana offense really didn't have enough life to do anything from there.
01:17 So the game was pretty much over. Ohio State eventually rolled to a 23 to 3 lead.
01:21 They, strangely enough, probably one of the biggest things to take away was that Ohio State
01:26 after basically for two weeks saying that they were going to be the team playing two
01:31 quarterbacks all time, really only gave Demin Brown like four snaps and had a rough game from
01:35 Kyle McCorberall. Indiana was the big two quarterback team, starting with Brendan Soresby,
01:39 shifting to Taven Jackson, going back to Brendan. So Jack, that'll be the first thing I ask you.
01:43 What do you think of the quarterback situation for Indiana? What do you think of it going forward?
01:48 Yeah, you know, I've been thinking about this a lot since the end of the game, and I really don't
01:52 think either of them showed much separation or especially I don't think either of them won the
01:58 job based on what they showed yesterday. I think if you're going to try to break down their skill
02:05 sets, Tom Allen said after the game that he doesn't think like the offense is, I think the quote he
02:11 said was holistically major in terms of like differences with how IU wants to run the offense
02:18 with Soresby versus Jackson. I think there are some subtle differences and Allen recognized that
02:23 too. You know, they clearly trusted Soresby to throw the ball more and I think he might have a
02:30 slight advantage in terms of arm strength. He had a couple nice throws driving the ball down the
02:35 field. Taven, you know, only one completion but was a nice throw about 25 yard completion to camper.
02:42 I think Indiana wants to run this kind of triple option offense because that's what worked with
02:50 Dexter Williams last year and I think they're bracing for him to come back. And if that's the
02:55 case, I think Taven has a little bit of an advantage in terms of being able to run the option.
03:02 He looked much more decisive than Soresby I thought in terms of reading the defense,
03:08 making a decision. I think he's a little bit more elusive than Soresby but that's not to say that
03:15 Soresby is an incapable runner. He had a couple nice runs. Yeah, Soresby can run. It's just that
03:20 he's a big fellow. Like he's got some straight line speed and he can move back there but
03:24 more triple option is more about just like how it making people miss in short areas and I don't think
03:29 I think Taven does have a much better ability to cut on a dime than Brendan does. Yeah, no,
03:34 I'd agree with you with that and I think the other factor to maybe consider is how the offensive line
03:41 plays with both quarterbacks. I think last year we saw like, you know, with the counter-Baselac
03:46 offense, the offensive line couldn't consistently pass block and provide enough time but it does
03:51 seem like that that they're at least a solid unit in this kind of triple option run attack where
03:59 you know you don't have to block for five seconds. So that's kind of how I see it. You know, they're
04:04 going to play both quarterbacks again next week and both will probably look a lot better than
04:09 they did given the opponent. Indiana State lost 27-0 to Eastern Illinois so we'll have another
04:15 week to analyze things but I really don't think there's much or any separation right now. Yeah,
04:22 so like you said there, kind of letting - Brendan obviously threw the ball a lot more than the
04:27 second half. I do wonder how much of that was just situation like being down two scores in the second
04:32 half kind of saying and after Taven like hadn't done anything for a few quarters just letting
04:36 Brendan get back out there and try and throw. So I don't want to like say that's oh Taven - maybe
04:41 next week that's part of their plan is when Taven's starting like hey Taven, we know we didn't
04:45 really take the training wheels off the offense for you last weekend. Like you try and do anything,
04:49 this time you're going to try and drop back and throw a bit more. So I could - Yeah, I don't think
04:53 it'll be like a 16-5 pass attempt differential next week. I think it'll be more even in that sense.
05:00 Yeah, I mean this is what we both kind of wrote after the game was just like
05:06 they actually looked pretty good. Like the defense which we're going to talk about had
05:10 really nice game, a lot of positions, a lot of the new transfer stepped up in a big way.
05:15 Like you said the offensive line that we thought was going to get run over by that Ohio State front
05:19 four looked like - they gave up sacks near the end of the game but that was garbage times trying
05:23 to pass protect. They honestly did just fine for what you could expect from them and the skill
05:28 position players the few times they get it, they got it, did do some nice stuff but it's things like
05:33 couldn't get them the ball if your quarterbacks are like - that if you don't trust your quarterbacks
05:39 to throw and I think this is something a few Indiana fans asked me was why there were no
05:44 short passes or like trying to like really hit that - it didn't seem like the run game was meant
05:49 or any short pass was meant to set up opening it up downfield. It was really just and I think it's
05:54 what we both agreed on. They did not trust Brendan, they did not trust Taven, either of them really at
06:00 all to run a scary attacking offense. So they basically the whole plan was just shorten the
06:06 game, don't screw anything up, maybe the triple option frustrates Ohio State which I mean it's
06:12 not the worst plan in the world but it's also I could see some frustration. It kind of feels like
06:17 a plan to just lose by less than it does to actually win which I know everyone's like
06:21 how are you actually going to beat Ohio State? Yeah but you still want to try and have some hope
06:26 that you can win the game there. Right and kind of about your comments of just the conservative play,
06:32 I was surprised that we didn't see more whether it's screens to Jalen Lucas, screens to Dekeese
06:40 Carter or Cameron Perry. Kind of just these easy completions where it's hey you don't have to do
06:49 too much Taven or Brendan just get the ball to your receivers because I do think they have some
06:53 talent at receiver and I thought there was a little bit too many runs kind of up the middle
06:58 with Jalen Lucas. Like he's obviously incredibly talented, he had some crazy cuts on some of those
07:04 punt returns. Yeah the returns like especially reading when Ohio State people were writing after
07:10 the game they did like they knew Jalen Lucas was a good returner. I don't think they understood it.
07:13 No he's like not just fast he's one of the fastest guys in the country. Yeah so you know they gave
07:20 him probably you know five, six, seven runs that were kind of between the tackles and you know
07:26 maybe he busts one eventually but I think he's kind of more of a guy that you want to try to
07:30 get outside or maybe get involved with some with some screens and stuff like that. So that was kind
07:37 of my one maybe gripe with with the play calling and just not maximizing what Lucas does best.
07:45 And then kind of big picture with the quarterbacks I was thinking about this and
07:52 I think my concern with Walt Bell and Allen is that it's kind of two years in a row and I know
07:59 it's only week one right now but like last year when they went with Dexter they kind of said that
08:04 because they played sores be ahead of Dexter against Penn State and kind of their reasoning
08:10 what Allen's explanation was was you know Dexter doesn't practice particularly well he's playing a
08:16 lot better in games than he has in practice and you know this year Allen says you know we're going
08:22 to use the first two weeks and we're going to evaluate the quarterbacks and that's just kind
08:26 of concerning to me in a big picture sense because it's saying that that they're having a hard time
08:32 evaluating these young quarterbacks and I get it because they've never played in a game and
08:37 you're playing Ohio State week one and Dexter hadn't really played much at all so I get that
08:42 you don't have any film to go back on but I still think it's kind of concerning to say oh we had all
08:48 spring summer and fall and we couldn't make a decision because I think eventually it's hard
08:55 to run with two quarterbacks and I don't think either quarterback wants to do this flip floppy
09:01 thing I think both of them kind of said that after the game I mean we can tell people here
09:07 this is kind of like a discussion we've had a lot through fall camp in the preseason
09:11 this internally like well because it's all all the reporters every week like timeout says
09:16 and Dexter is really recovering better than we thought he would everyone was really excited
09:21 when we did that in the year you see how option heavy they go in offense it does really feel like
09:25 it's not like they're going to say oh Taven Brendan like we have no faith in you at all
09:30 but there's a little bit of an insinuation there where just they don't seem to trust either one
09:35 fully or think either one is the guy and I think they're just if I had to guess what the coaching
09:40 staff really wants it's that Dexter comes back and despite having his second major like surgery like
09:45 he still has some of that juice athletically and they could become like and like it's not like
09:50 Taven like we said Taven and Brendan can't run but they're not Dexter when he runs Dexter
09:55 if you have Dexter Josh Henderson Chris Turner Jalen Lucas like as a four-headed running attack
09:59 that's real those are some really good runners back there and if your o-line is blocking at
10:04 least just well enough you can kind of like you can kind of see how this team comes together
10:09 and I guess we can kind of shift a little bit to some of the positive because like the reason there
10:14 is hope for this team is man that defense like really played very well now I know like Ohio
10:19 State fans will probably say a little more like Kyle McCord did not look great and their play
10:24 calling left a lot to be desired like a lot of you know it's people wanted to see Indiana throw
10:30 the ball deep more which I get every fan wants that but it was kind of understandable with like
10:33 what they have that they didn't right why is Ohio State not airing it out when you have that talent
10:39 receiver everything was just like a quick short pass to one of the running backs or a Kate to
10:43 Kate Stover and it's just you guys have all the talent in the world to open up but like correct
10:48 to Indiana's defense Andre Carter was giving Ohio State's offensive line massive problems the
10:53 linebackers made plays I mean the fumble and completion debacle was great play by Jacob
10:57 Mangum for our secondary look good I'll even I had some cramps like what did you think of the
11:01 defense yesterday yeah I think the defense looked about as good as you could have expected yesterday
11:09 given the opponent and given that Aaron Casey and Noah Pierre were really the only two and I guess
11:16 kind of Lewis Moore and maybe a couple other guys you know they pretty much had like 15 or so
11:23 defenders that had never really played all that much in this defense so I was I came away with
11:30 it very intrigued about the defense especially up front you mentioned Andre Carter he had a couple
11:35 big stuffs in there in the red zone area tackling McCord I thought kind of their rotation with
11:42 Linnell Carr Anthony Jones Miles Jackson at the bull spot I know Alan really values kind of what
11:48 those positions are able to do within the defense I thought that that's good and if you have three
11:54 guys that can all theoretically have the same production that's very positive I thought as a
12:01 whole they got pretty good push up front Alan talked about establishing the line of scrimmage
12:08 and I think it's a defense where you know they did double team Andre Carter a few times but
12:13 I think teams might be a little bit more hesitant to do that especially not just because of the
12:19 other threats on the D line but but what Aaron Casey and Jacob Mangum Farrar can do
12:25 kind of filling those gaps or blitzing through so I was really intrigued about the front seven
12:32 especially and we can talk about the secondary later but I thought I thought with Carter and
12:38 all those additions they made up front it was it was very promising and if you have a guy like Aaron
12:42 Casey and Mangum Farrar a linebacker you know that that's a pretty good sign moving forward I think.
12:48 Yeah yeah like they you said Casey had a ton of big tackles there like just
12:53 really like it seems boring to say really solid tackling and there were of course places like
12:57 Chip Trenum and Mayan Williams for Ohio State like being the running backs they are slipped out or
13:01 broke through tackles but generally like there was no point where you ask yourself what is the
13:06 Indiana defense doing every single snap seemed competent at a certain point if not above it
13:12 like everyone made tackles when they needed to defenders were like hitting Ohio State receivers
13:18 to try and break up passes like and yeah I don't think I'm breaking any news here every Indiana
13:24 fan watch that game yesterday has no ill will to the defense they thought they were putting about
13:27 as rough a position as possible did as much as they could held one of the best teams in the
13:32 country to 23 points and stayed tough inside the red zone did just really good game from all around
13:38 one quick thing we did not get a update from on it from coach Allen post game but we both saw
13:44 Jameer Johnson walk off the field after it was a tackle I forget it might have been on Stover I'm
13:48 trying to remember the Ohio State player I could have that wrong but he like it was him and another
13:52 Indiana defender kind of joint tackled him he kind of went low hit his head clear like immediately
13:57 got up and was stumbling like waved to the sideline called call the field and then went
14:01 to the locker room did not get an update here like all the other injuries for Indiana secondary
14:05 seemed like just cramps and I'll be fine but especially with a short week and playing Indiana
14:09 State on Friday I would I'm obviously not reporting it but like I would not be shocked if Jameer
14:14 Johnson is not playing against Indiana State on Friday yeah no I would kind of agree with you
14:19 that definitely looked like a possible concussion I think with that it seemed like they did have
14:27 the depth in the secondary with with some of those other guys like Kobe Miner I thought played pretty
14:32 solid Jameer Sharp had the one taunting penalty that proved to be pretty costly but so what you
14:39 think he deserved that one I didn't really see too much because I was think I was focusing on
14:43 Harrison Jr. got injured on that so I was focused on that for a second but I know he's still I didn't
14:47 know if Tom Allen was like he got mad at that I don't know if he was mad at Jamari Sharp or if he
14:51 was mad at the referee for calling it no in in general I I am not a big fan of like the taunting
14:57 penalties and sports whether it's basketball or football I think most of them are overblown
15:03 I think also there's an aspect of it where like we don't know what he said so you know
15:10 it didn't look too bad to me but it was it did end up being pretty costly defensively I do also
15:18 want to give some credit to to to Allen and Guerrero and Wilt for kind of how because I was
15:25 pretty skeptical with with how that was going to look at least at first I thought it was possible
15:30 that this defense could be improved from last year you know later on the season but with Allen given
15:36 play calling duties handing it back over to Guerrero with Wilt's role adjusting slightly
15:43 with Guerrero being his first year at IU and calling plays you know I thought and then with
15:50 all the transfers I thought it was I thought it was pretty reasonable to expect some some struggles
15:56 at least week one against Ohio State with the defense but you know I think those guys deserve
16:00 some credit for for getting the unit to play well together and yeah it would be concerning if they
16:07 didn't have Johnson next week but like I said it seemed like they have three pretty solid corners
16:13 in sharp tumor and minor that it's not the massive loss that it was you know when you think back to
16:22 like 2021 when Taiwan got hurt you know Indiana in the past hadn't really been had the depth to
16:30 overcome some of these types of injuries I think they might have better depth this year defensively
16:36 you know we'll kind of see it's still really early but yeah that that's kind of my thoughts
16:41 on the secondary I thought they played well and whatever most of the game like I think I had said
16:46 to you during the game I was like your you know your prediction about the Marvin Harrison over
16:52 100 receiving yards that was made in secret like he was pretty much a non-factor like I thought his
16:58 biggest play was drawing the pass interference on the one dredge yeah and I again I don't think
17:03 that I do think there's a very much a case that was not Indiana shutting down Marvin Harrison
17:07 Jr. more yeah that's from Ohio State like offense needs to figure some stuff out like you you have
17:12 the best receiver in the country you probably need to figure out how to get in the ball but um no
17:16 yeah I can't ask much more from them uh want to do some fun with stats here how many first downs
17:22 do you think Indiana had that game I don't know five actually eight so I think it was like a lot
17:30 more than I know they didn't get one till the third possession when Taven went in for the first
17:34 time after Brendan yeah I just know there was a long stretch kind of in that middle there where
17:39 nothing was happening a long time without a first down so how many okay how many who do you think
17:47 converted more third downs Ohio State or Indiana um Indiana did have some big third down stops on
17:54 defense so maybe this is a this is a trick question and it's in the end that's well that's
17:59 exactly what it was because um Ohio State went two for 12 on third down Indiana was four for 15
18:05 neither very good but like yeah yeah that's I mean that's and that's probably the problem Ohio
18:10 you can't be failing on 10 third downs if you're Ohio State like that can't happen so that's pretty
18:16 rough uh don't know if I have a question for this one just that Indiana did finish the game of 153
18:20 total yards of offense which that's it's about 152 few yeah no that's that's definitely the big
18:27 concern um I think they'll be a little bit more aggressive I maybe a lot more aggressive next
18:34 week against Indiana State I think they played pretty conservatively um I think Wobel opened
18:40 it up a little bit more Alan sounded like he really wanted him to um so and most importantly
18:48 Chris Freeman the Indiana kicker at long now it is probably likely that Niko Radjic and Chris
18:54 Freeman both get the kick this year but also surprising Freeman kick considering like we
18:58 thought it was just a distance thing I mean 43 yards is in the chip shop but it's also like
19:02 you would think Niko Radjic had enough leg strength to use the better kicker he would get
19:06 the call from 43 yards right yeah I mean when Alan had a you know was kind of non-committal in terms
19:15 of naming a kicker I thought it was distance based and but I kind of think after yesterday
19:23 that it might just be Freeman for the time being I don't think they're closing the door on
19:29 Radjic winning the job um I think they're pretty unsure about the kickers right now Freeman
19:35 you know it took a doink to to make it but he did make it so you know you probably ride with him
19:43 again maybe you know I I also think like they've done this in the past like the last years playing
19:48 Idaho where you give some other kickers a chance I bet we see both of them against Indiana State
19:55 um you know maybe the next week against Louisville if it's a closer game you you pick who you're more
20:00 confident then um but yeah I wouldn't be surprised to see both of them next week yeah look as I
20:07 understand all the frustration Indiana fans have this where it's like between obviously more
20:11 important for the quarterbacks but other kickers like how you should probably have these things
20:15 decided like it's okay to have some competition but and like when it kind of felt random like
20:20 yanking Taven uh yanking Brennan and putting Taven in and yanking Taven like there was no
20:24 constant rotation just first guy started badly one guy came in and did a little better than went
20:29 badly and then they just brought the other guy back in and the kickers like if it just if it's
20:33 like a 41 yarder next week and Nico trots out there I can see it's like so what are we doing
20:37 here are we just are we just throwing stuff at the ball and seeing what sticks but um and it like
20:43 it's the thing you would see like Ohio State fans or media talk about all the last weeks like their
20:47 whole thing's been trying to figure out if it was McCorder Brown before their Notre Dame game for
20:51 Indiana like this is next week then like you can you can still mess around with the stuff against
20:55 Indiana State however you want to rotate on defense however whatever this triple all the
21:00 triple option stuff if you want if you want to lean that heavily into triple option you can try
21:04 it against Indiana State if you still want to see what you got in Taven and Brendan you still want
21:08 to see what you got in Chris and Nico you can try it against them that's a that's a bad FCS team like
21:12 I know Indiana's not great but they should win this game pretty easily but against Louisville
21:16 especially like if you want to threaten for a bowl at any point this season like and we saw
21:21 Louisville like struggle with Georgia Tech quite a bit this last week like you need to go out there
21:27 and have that stuff figured out before that little game like I would very much I would not it would
21:32 not be good for Indiana if they're still doing random kicker and quarterback rotation going into
21:38 a game they really need to win against Louisville yeah no I'm kind of with you I think it's fine to
21:43 use next week as kind of another test with the quarterbacks I think you know I don't think
21:50 either guy wants to do the flip-flop you know we talked to Taven after and Brendan and both of them
21:59 said you know it's kind of challenging when you don't really know if you're going to be pulled
22:05 you don't know when you're going to go back in the game if you get pulled I think mentally that
22:11 that is tough for quarterbacks and so so you know I think if you use next week you kind of figure
22:19 out all right what's the best path forward especially if that path is only for three
22:25 four more games after Indiana State if you figure that you have Dexter back by then and you just
22:32 want to roll with him I don't I'm not a believer in kind of the two quarterback thing from a play
22:42 style wise and from kind of what it does mentally for the quarterbacks and kind of the whole team I
22:48 think no yeah it's and also I feel like this is the thing why it's frustrating for people either
22:58 covering or following Indiana is that we saw just how competent everything looked around the
23:03 quarterbacks yesterday right so like there's an outline of a solid big 10 team here if that defense
23:09 that skill position and offensive line isn't killing you like there's stuff here but none of
23:15 that matters if you're if you're like quarterbacks ranked 13th out of 14th in the big 10 like that
23:19 that just does not matter at all so that's right and also I think the door's open because
23:26 I mean we're gonna obviously talking about Indiana mostly here but like around the big 10 yesterday
23:30 like just hold the week did not look stellar like Illinois needed a last-second comeback win to beat
23:36 Toledo Fresno State looks great but they beat Purdue it at Raw Stadium which is not good for
23:42 them like and we talked about all these other teams where Michigan State was trailing Central
23:45 Michigan pretty deep in that game like there are not there are three clearly great teams in the big
23:51 10 Ohio State Penn State Michigan and maybe Wisconsin's number four I was like not great
23:56 but the defense is hard to beat and you know it's not even playing them but you just look around the
24:01 rest of the conference there are plenty beatable teams in this conference so Indiana really just
24:06 needs to it sounds like they need either one of Tavion or Brendan to be like three tiers above what
24:12 they were on Saturday because that was pretty bad or you need Dexter to come back like they're really
24:17 hoping to and be that guy because if they are like I wouldn't say it's a possible like five and six
24:23 heading into week 11 and get in front of the bucket and like just and they have a chance for
24:27 a bowl game because they they like that defense played great yesterday right no I think you're
24:32 right I I'm not predicting that Indiana wins all these toss-up games but you think Louisville
24:39 Rutgers maybe you throw Maryland in there I think that'll be tough because it's on the road but it's
24:44 not like Maryland is some world beater Illinois Michigan State Purdue you have these games that
24:49 it seems like all right if you have a defense that you can that can keep you in the game
24:54 if you can just get competent quarterback play you know neither turn the ball over if you want to
25:00 if you want to think of a positive from from them yesterday if you can get play where they're just
25:06 able to to not be the reason that you're losing you know and kind of just elevate their play to a
25:15 certain degree you know there are these winnable games I'm not ready to say that I think Indiana
25:22 is going to make a bowl game I think they're still going to fall a little bit short of that but
25:25 I was intrigued by what Indiana has defensively and skill position wise and I think the offensive
25:33 line will be better than it has been in the past few years I don't think it'll be dominant I think
25:38 it will be better though yeah like not not not even asking not asking these guys go win a game
25:44 asking Indiana quarterbacks like please do not pull out the gun and shoot us in the foot like
25:49 that's all it's all we need is like like it has to be a little bit above that because I mean
25:54 we can do this at another time it's like after we a few weeks ranking how the big 10 quarterbacks
25:59 have played it's it's hard to get what worse than it like probably the only two who might be worse
26:04 than what we saw from Taven and Bren yesterday are going to be playing in a couple of hours in
26:07 the Northwestern Rutgers game because I don't think Gavin Wibbsett and Ben Bryant are all that
26:11 great so it's not a ton of uh not only only room to go up is one way to look at it I guess but
26:18 yeah though we could also like it's very possible we just see this like triple option heavy offense
26:23 a lot moving forward like I it does seem that they don't trust them a ton and they really want
26:27 to lean into the run game with guys who can move that quarterback to be fair so it's it's you know
26:32 turns into a chicken and egg situation like or do they look this limited because because they are
26:37 that limited or they look this limited because their coaches like don't want to trust them at
26:42 all or won't refuse to open up the offense but like then why do they don't trust and they just
26:45 go back and forth and it comes to a situation where just seems a little bit below the standard
26:50 you really want it to be at yeah and I do think it's probably more likely that we see them continue
26:56 to try to do this triple option thing I think bell wants to do that I think he wants that to be the
27:01 offense when Dexter comes back obviously um I don't think he wants to put either quarterback
27:07 in a position where they're throwing the ball 25 times a game and um you know potentially
27:14 throwing multiple interceptions um I I do have concerns about like how you know can you score
27:24 three or four touchdowns a game running the triple offense if you're kind of just methodically
27:28 moving it moving it down the field um you know maybe it opens up some big plays for Jalen Lucas
27:33 but they kind of like we said earlier weren't really able to get him in a ton of space so
27:39 yeah there will be some stuff to work through for bell and the quarterbacks um it's gonna be
27:44 interesting to see I I think next week is a good opportunity for them to kind of build some
27:49 confidence all right we'll just do we're gonna wrap it up here in just a second so one last thing
27:55 I think we I'm not gonna ask for a prediction on Indiana State because I know we both would say
27:59 easy win pretty much it's like the most confident prediction of the year but I'll end it on this
28:05 so just to ultimately say week three they have okay actually we'll do it this way by what week
28:12 do you think they named the starter between Brennan or Tavian like the full-time start going
28:16 forward who do you think it is just quick answer because I guess I'll I can go first I'm gonna say
28:22 by I would like to say they'd have it by Louisville but I don't think they actually will
28:26 I feel like they're gonna go up and down I'm gonna I'm gonna say not till week five which
28:32 I'm pretty sure is the I am blanking now on which game it is because that's after Akron
28:37 yeah I'll say against Maryland that I'll go with Brendan I think they're gonna have Brendan
28:44 Soresby as the the full-time starter by week five game against Maryland that's what I'll say
28:49 yeah so I think it's possible that they have a starter against Louisville that they've decided
28:57 on but I don't think they're gonna say before the game like yeah Brendan or Tavian they're
29:02 they're the guy they're going I think you got to make a decision before that Maryland game at the
29:10 absolute latest because that also seems like a week or two before Dexter could come back so at
29:16 that point it's like what purpose does you know naming one quarterback for a week before Dexter
29:23 comes back anyways you know it it's gonna be a week to week thing you know part of me thinks
29:30 it's gonna be Tavian because I think Bell wants to do the triple option thing and I think Tavian
29:36 looked more decisive and is a little bit more of a threat in that so I I lean slightly towards
29:47 Tavian but it really you know Brendan started week one for a reason you know that probably
29:53 says something about maybe where the competition was leaning at all so I think Tavian just because
30:01 I think he can do the triple option a little bit better and I think Bell wants to do that but
30:07 you know I think it I I think Soresby has every chance to win the job too and I think it possibly
30:14 does. Well I think that's gonna wrap it up for us today uh yeah like you said it was really like as
30:21 as Tom Mellon intended there's still a lot to figure out about this Indiana team I don't think
30:25 they know and I don't think any of us on the outside know but uh that's gonna wrap it up for
30:29 us today thanks for listening to us on this first trial run of the podcast we have we'd love to hear
30:34 any feedback or comments any of you guys have just we're trying something please let us know how it
30:39 goes what can you be made better and yeah I think I'm gonna sign off now for both of us here at
30:43 Hoosiers Now this has been Daniel Olinger and Jack Ankeny and we'll see you guys next week.