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Heather Dubrow Says Tamra Judge Was ‘Clearly’ Two-Faced This Season of RHOC

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00:00 I understand not wanting your relationship to be scrutinized
00:04 I understand why it's upsetting to her. But I mean a couple
00:07 things first of all we are on a show what surprised you the
00:11 most this season watching it back so far.
00:13 South everything went from me I really I had no idea and I
00:19 don't even think I understood in the moment how South
00:22 everything was going and just when I thought
00:24 it was safe to go back in the water.
00:27 It was not and I don't know, I mean maybe I'm a moron I had
00:31 no idea it is been very sad for me to watch cameras comments
00:37 because I I had no idea from moment one from the very first
00:42 episode. She was saying things that were really not nice about
00:46 me, yeah, you feel like she was too faced to the season.
00:49 Well clearly because she was saying one thing to my face
00:52 yeah, and another thing behind my back and you know that's
00:56 hard as you've seen there's this whole narrative that I'm
01:00 talking yes about Shannon's relationship. Well, you notice
01:04 do you ever see me talking about Shannon's relationally
01:07 have it that's what we're talking about we were I'm
01:09 confused as to because it seems like a lot of people are
01:11 talking about Shannon's relationship so I don't know
01:13 why it's all pinned on you and they all brought it on camera.
01:16 Yeah, let's talk about right that part of it right. But
01:19 what's interesting is everyone saying Heather saying it
01:22 Heather saying it, but I want you to pay close attention
01:24 tonight to conversations that Emily has with Shannon and
01:28 everyone has with each other and you'll see that that's not
01:31 true right. I think you say in the midseason trailer that you
01:33 are kind of like the whipping boy this season. Yeah, you
01:35 really feel like that I do and you know we film this about a
01:39 year ago and you know you remember things you don't you
01:43 block it, but I watch the episodes, you know like this
01:47 and and see what happens but some things are exactly as I
01:51 remember them and some things I didn't even remember being so
01:53 clear.
01:54 And what are some of those things like on tonight's show
01:57 like when I pulled Emily aside to talk to her.
02:01 My memory was that she pulled me aside.
02:03 But I'm so I was like proud of myself, I'm like I'm so glad
02:06 you did that. Yeah, right, yeah, no it is it is
02:11 interesting that so many people are kind of putting this on you
02:14 and were you surprised about the reaction that Shannon had
02:17 like you know basically like I'm normal I have a great
02:20 relationship did you I mean based on her reaction were you
02:24 kind of like well.
02:25 >> Clearly something's wrong. I think you hear some of the
02:27 girls saying that why she's so defensive, you know thou doth
02:30 protest too much there there's that kind of thing I
02:32 understand not wanting your relationship to be scrutinized
02:36 I understand why it's upsetting to her. But I mean a couple
02:40 things first of all we are on a show yes where we talk about
02:45 our lives our friendships each other's lives and I said this
02:49 in the episode, but there is a difference between talking
02:51 about someone and talking again some favorite quotes right
02:56 because it's true and I even though Shannon it does you know
03:00 she's she's not very intimate she she does not care for me.
03:04 I really care about Shannon and I just want her to be happy and
03:11 that's all I ever wanted.

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