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In this week’s episode of our, I Am Negan The Walking Dead podcast, Editor Adam Vale, Throwdown Member Carlos Romero, and Editor-In-Chief Richard Bailey Jr. share their thoughts on The Walking Dead: Daryl Dixon Season 1 Episode 1 “L'âme Perdue”. Daryl Dixon's arrival to France sets off a violent chain of events that inadvertently puts a young boy at the heart of a growing religious movement in danger. If you haven’t watched the episode yet, be mindful of spoilers and share your thoughts here after you have seen it. Check out the full episode now on AMC+.

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00:00:00 Oh
00:00:01 What's up, what's up people?
00:00:03 Welcome back. Welcome back to the viewers the listeners and to everybody else on this panel. Welcome back
00:00:11 It's been a while
00:00:13 Especially since what was it? It was dead city, which was a few months ago
00:00:17 But we are all back people walking dead content is back and I am vegan
00:00:22 This podcast is back going on our 30th year feels like forever
00:00:27 I
00:00:29 Mean as long as people have cared about this franchise, so that is great. So
00:00:35 Opening up. My name is Adam Vale. I'm a senior editor over at the coalition with a K comm
00:00:41 Joined by editor-in-chief Richard Bailey jr. What's up, Rich?
00:00:45 What's up, Adam? What's up listeners and viewers?
00:00:49 and
00:00:51 throwdowns Carlos Romero
00:00:54 Yo, yo, yo back after a long hiatus, but uh
00:00:58 Good to talk to you guys
00:01:01 Yes. Yes, and you know what else is good rich and in calls
00:01:05 It's good to talk about a good content good spin-off for the walking dead
00:01:10 Cuz we I think we're all gonna have some good. Yeah, at least for this episode. I don't get too hyped on it
00:01:16 But this is good. So right off the bat for people
00:01:20 Thanks again for still sticking with us whether you're following on YouTube iTunes
00:01:24 Spotify, you know, it's I am Negan. It's great people. Yeah, we get people fluctuate. It's a TV show
00:01:30 Some people fall into it
00:01:32 They don't care about spin-offs and then they just stick with mothership and other people's jump on in and watch and listen and that's great
00:01:38 And so if you're into it and you're still here, thanks if you're new, this is what we do
00:01:42 We cover all these walking dead shows. So if that's what you're into then go ahead and jump aboard
00:01:47 But just a quick thanks to everybody that sticks around whenever we have these big breaks
00:01:51 I'm always expecting I check the numbers and I'm always expecting a big drop-off and it never happens. It doesn't happen
00:01:57 But now maybe something like I'm gonna do it now
00:01:59 but no, it's it's cool people stick around and thanks for all that and
00:02:05 Thankfully this worked out at least for this first episode. We are going into this is the walking dead
00:02:13 Daryl Dixon, I still don't like that title. They should have been more creative, but whatever and
00:02:19 Go ahead
00:02:22 Carlos what is the name of this first episode?
00:02:25 The first name of this episode is indeed in French
00:02:28 So I did take four years of French that to help me kind of pronounce it, right?
00:02:34 The title is called L'homme perdu
00:02:37 Which means the lost soul which we're assuming it's Daryl. Yeah. Yeah
00:02:43 Yeah, all right. That's that's great. Thank you for years. Well worth it
00:02:48 Well, I'm saying comes up in handy see people
00:02:51 Real quick. I want to get two things out of the way
00:02:54 Because of that these are the questions that I have people that always ask me when they hear about this one
00:03:00 How many episodes there are six episodes for Daryl Dixon? Okay, just like that city
00:03:06 All right, and - yes
00:03:09 All six episodes have been already filmed process prepped. They're good to go
00:03:15 So the current strike that's going on with the writers and the actors will not impact this so don't think oh
00:03:22 Well, there's only gonna be two episodes or whatever and what's gonna be some big delays and stuff. No, no, no
00:03:27 This was already done. This was actually done way back because I remember
00:03:33 When Walking Dead proper ended and they did that that special talking dead and they were talking to Darryl stuff and he was like, yeah
00:03:40 You know, I just came back from France
00:03:41 Okay
00:03:41 I'm pretty sure he had said that they had just wrapped up and the show was in post and we know for Dead City
00:03:48 because of
00:03:50 Jeffrey Dean Morgan had posted earlier with way months before it's like, all right
00:03:54 We just finished wrapping up and then like two three months, you know, it takes time during post to clean things up and stuff
00:04:00 so
00:04:01 Thankfully this whole seasons was already produced and processed and so we will be getting them weekly
00:04:08 I'm not sure. I got a look at the schedule if they're gonna take any breaks
00:04:11 I don't think they are but then we know that we have the the next part for
00:04:17 Fear right that's also coming
00:04:20 Mm-hmm. So so we'll have to see where that goes
00:04:23 Don't know if we discussed there previously, but Dead City got picked up for a second season. So that's great
00:04:30 We know that's happening. And then it was announced that this one Darryl Dixon
00:04:34 This is coming back for a second season before even the first season there
00:04:38 Which usually is a good sign because that means that the network has previewed and watched it like, you know
00:04:44 Like we have them say all that's my date. You know what you got something here
00:04:48 I think this could work, you know because they didn't do that for Tales of the Walking Dead and you know
00:04:54 The world beyond even a world beyond we knew it's gonna be two seasons, but I'm sure they hoped it would be more
00:05:00 and
00:05:01 It was still an extra season too long because that should have been just a one-off that was that was not good
00:05:08 But hey, you know, what's good Darryl Dixon. This was pretty good
00:05:13 So right off the bat another question. Let's just let's get into it
00:05:18 So the other big question then we all had about this is how?
00:05:23 How does he end up from the Commonwealth?
00:05:27 To France and you know what the answer is
00:05:30 Rich do you know the answer because I we watch this, you know the answer
00:05:35 Yeah
00:05:37 What's the answer rich or Carlos? What about you? Do you know?
00:05:40 Go ahead Carlos, um, what did he say cuz they're all rigid you stumble into some bad guys a bad decision
00:05:50 That's our answer bad
00:05:54 Decisions, you know and I don't know jumping ahead because this is just clear as day
00:05:58 This is what everybody wants to know. How did he get from point A to point B?
00:06:02 It's not like he was going state to state. Okay, so bad decisions. That's the answer you get
00:06:08 I'm upset with that because I I see where they were going after watching the episode and
00:06:14 Hopefully all you guys watched it if not on AMC plus which added early or just wait for AMC proper when he heard it
00:06:22 but um
00:06:23 it's
00:06:25 You can see that there this was a great idea and this something we had talked about before with Walking Dead
00:06:31 It was like why don't they branch out of the United States?
00:06:34 Let's see how the rest of the world is handling this and then we can get new environments and stuff and that's great
00:06:40 That's what they decide to do but it was to the point that maybe they said we don't want to spend time
00:06:46 Building a new character. How can we incorporate a known character into that universe?
00:06:53 That's space
00:06:54 So then that way we can pull those people in because without a doubt
00:07:00 Norman Reedus, you know actor for that place Darryl Dixon
00:07:03 He has a following whether all his work on The Walking Dead or within video games with Death Stranding
00:07:09 You know and so he's got a following and he goes to all the cons and stuff
00:07:14 he's a well-liked character and the the magical thing about him is that he was not part of the
00:07:20 Walking Dead universe when it comes to the comics. He was put in by the show
00:07:24 So in a way, this is a win-win for AMC because this is something that they created
00:07:32 They incorporated into the show
00:07:34 I know Kirkman had some say they did the writing and all but the point is he was not part of that universe
00:07:40 So they can go fresh with him and that was always cool that he had his own story with the brother and all that stuff
00:07:47 and all the craziness
00:07:48 But this going to France and all this stuff. I
00:07:51 Was curious to see how they were gonna bring this in go ahead Carlos
00:07:55 I was about to say they can go fresh or they could go French
00:07:58 And that's what they did
00:08:04 But so right off the bat that tells us and for anyone that was wondering
00:08:09 What's going on with this? Well, just picture. This is a whole new tale. Yes Darryl's in this
00:08:16 but
00:08:16 He could have been anyone
00:08:18 I think they could have put another if they would have grabbed another big name and it just follows him because this is a different
00:08:24 approach the filming the the film topography of
00:08:27 Though the audio work just just everything the feel is very unique
00:08:34 It's different than the Walking Dead fear the Walking Dead
00:08:37 They definitely took a different approach a more
00:08:39 mature approach with some of the contents with the killings and
00:08:45 He dropped the Darryl dropped the f-bomb, you know, I was like, whoa
00:08:48 I think they're allowed like two or three now
00:08:50 They change some rules, you know when it comes to airing at certain hours for television, but still it
00:08:56 finally happened
00:08:59 and they definitely went into another direction and they're going into another direction with this and I think they're gonna pull in a
00:09:06 Lot of care a lot of people that are not from the Walking Dead universe
00:09:11 But are looking for something in that
00:09:14 That type of realm or something like the last of us from HBO because this had that quality
00:09:19 It didn't seem like a bunch of people running around in the woods
00:09:22 Like we would see you know and Walking Dead. It's like oh man, where are they? It's always in the same woods
00:09:27 No that they were on location
00:09:29 This was filmed in France and they show you that right off the bat you get these nice drone shots and they're showing you
00:09:36 landscapes and and different locations in areas and landmarks
00:09:40 Okay, we're here. So overall the production the set design
00:09:45 Just the feel was fresh and I enjoyed that. So before I go into breaking down this episode
00:09:53 What did you guys think of that? Did you get the same vibe that it felt like refreshing like new?
00:09:57 Yeah, I
00:10:00 Totally agree with Adam
00:10:02 the vibe of this show the pacing
00:10:06 Just the way it was shot
00:10:08 It was it was a breath of fresh air because one of the more recent shows that we watched
00:10:12 was Tales of the Walking Dead which felt like a novella like a like a telenovela and
00:10:18 We weren't big fans of that Night City
00:10:21 Improved on that it it was it was much better than this and and Daryl Dixon show is a lot better than even that
00:10:29 I really enjoyed it. They did they didn't hold back. They didn't hold back on the f-word
00:10:34 they didn't hold back on the on the shooting nuns. They went all in and
00:10:38 you know you appreciate when when when the shows doesn't you know when the show doesn't hold your hand or
00:10:44 You know skip steps
00:10:47 The shows, you know, so yeah, I'm with you Adam. I really I really enjoyed that aspect of the show. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so
00:10:57 It sounds like my printers going off so if you hear a printer that is me, but yeah, so what about you rich oh
00:11:04 Yeah
00:11:07 You know this this show definitely made me want to take the trip
00:11:11 You know somewhere international. I
00:11:13 Do agree everything felt fresh and it's not just a fresh setting
00:11:19 It's the new characters the new adversaries the new walkers
00:11:24 which have other names that we're gonna get into but yeah, it felt like it was a
00:11:28 Fresh perspective on the character. I'm assuming we're going to learn a little bit more about Daryl as
00:11:35 We see this journey that he's on
00:11:37 I know people are going to compare
00:11:40 The storyline with the little boy in the escort mission to the last of us
00:11:46 I think we can all agree people are gonna make that comparison because last of us
00:11:51 Came out at the beginning of this year and that was a show everybody was talking about
00:11:54 But I'm very curious to see where they take this because obviously there's more about that character that we need to learn
00:12:01 So I look forward to seeing it. But yeah so far very very good first episode
00:12:07 Let's see where they go from here. Yeah. Yeah, so let's get into the episode
00:12:12 So it starts off with Daryl Dixon just on some floating debris out in the ocean
00:12:17 And he rolls off he wakes up from the cold water
00:12:20 We don't know how he ended up there and he's on the beach
00:12:23 And then we see it kicks off from the trailer pretty much where he's walking around. He does find a boat
00:12:29 That's been washed up. He finds some supplies water some other things tape recorder batteries
00:12:36 He turns it on he hears a sad story of what's taking place that what already had taken place on the boat
00:12:42 And it looks like they were trying to come from was it Ireland and they made their way to France
00:12:47 But then somebody turned and then some other commotion happened, but he grabs
00:12:51 What appears to be like the harpoon type spear and he uses that as a walking stick as well
00:12:56 And then that's what we would see in the trailer or what we've seen in the trailer where he's walking around
00:13:00 we still have a location people drone shots and
00:13:02 He gets into a low
00:13:05 Into town it looks like a little town and he goes into one of the little stores there and sure enough
00:13:10 There's walkers, but there's something special with these walkers. They have like goo some acid in them
00:13:17 And they of course they attack him and he's fighting them off doing the whole thing
00:13:21 but some of that acid drips onto his arm and is burning him and
00:13:25 After he kills them he realizes crushing their head and stuff like that that they're all filled with this weird acid
00:13:31 So right there that there's a variant, right?
00:13:35 That's a different variant than from what we saw from Walking Dead
00:13:38 Proper at the final season when they show that they can climb walls and open doors now
00:13:43 We got this once with these with this gluing burning like they're still able to well
00:13:48 That's what it that's what they were they were called in the episode like burners or burners
00:13:52 Yes, you gave me two different names. She gave him two different names. We'll get to that too. Yeah, so yeah, they have some
00:13:59 Acid that can burn them or whatever, but they're they able to function as walkers
00:14:04 So it's not it's not slowing them down in any way, but it's definitely hurting others
00:14:10 So once he he gets out and well, I'm not gonna jump too far
00:14:15 Cuz we're definitely gonna talk more about those burners one when he meets up with the nun
00:14:19 He said that's when we get on but he goes he gets out and then it looks like he comes up across two survivors
00:14:24 Right. There's a woman and in her mid 20s, whatever and she's with an older gentleman and such. Hey
00:14:29 Speaking of French. He doesn't speak French. They realize he's American. They start talking English. It's okay
00:14:35 We're gonna we could work together. We could trade we got a bunny, you know, you got any medical supplies
00:14:40 He gives which was surprising he threw like the whole med kit that he had that he picked up from the ship
00:14:46 I'm like really I would have been what do you need? What do you mean? I'm not giving you everything
00:14:51 You know, so what do you but I guess that's me thinking too much into it
00:14:55 That would prolong the scene and they're like no no
00:14:57 So he just throws what he has and then he gets the bunny and some apples and some other stuff. So
00:15:02 She's over here trying to say. Oh, well, you're my where you going? And he's like, I just want to go home
00:15:07 I just want to get back and again at this point though. We don't know how he ended up there in France
00:15:14 So we just know that he just washed up there and he's like whatever now
00:15:18 he's just navigating and just trying to figure out his way back and
00:15:22 As they're having this whole conversation
00:15:25 She was saying oh
00:15:25 maybe we can come along with you and the other guys talking about World War two member are our people French and American and then a
00:15:32 Cargoes into town to this little square area here. So we'll just get out start questioning the other two
00:15:38 they get a little rough with the woman there and
00:15:41 Darrell was does what Darrell does he stands up for the people, you know for the people say it Carlos for the people and
00:15:50 Poof makes, you know, they're fighting it out
00:15:53 he's beating the crap out of the guy, but the guy gets up her hand knocks him down, but the woman helps him and
00:15:59 Once Darrell gets up picks up the gun
00:16:01 he's about to shoot the guy and she says no save the powder and then she uses the spear and she just
00:16:08 Kills him right there. She puts that guy down
00:16:10 So before I go any further right there
00:16:13 What did you think of what we just saw like how that was working out the scene of now?
00:16:19 We see the interaction with him and the characters and now it looks like there's some new
00:16:23 Militant group of some sort, you know, but you find this interesting so far
00:16:29 I
00:16:31 Mean, I thought it was interesting. I also thought at that moment that uh, Garrow Darrell should know from
00:16:37 His time with Rick
00:16:40 you need to be very cautious around new people that you don't quite know what their intentions are yet and
00:16:45 We found out why that was
00:16:48 immediately after
00:16:50 He had he after they they had to deal with someone with those two with those two people
00:16:56 Yeah, yeah, I was I was kind of surprised a little bit because I
00:17:01 remember I remember from the trailers or from one of the you know, one of the advertisements for this show being
00:17:09 Darrell is gonna be on a sort of you know, like like the last of us were there's an escort mission
00:17:15 you know just mentioning the
00:17:19 like from that and I thought when we first got into the the group the
00:17:24 Little girl and the grandpa. I thought that was a person that was gonna be transported
00:17:28 But it didn't turn out that way
00:17:31 No, yeah
00:17:33 Yeah
00:17:34 And that was the best part of it this whole thing cuz you're like, oh, all right
00:17:37 So he helped out and then she helped him out and no
00:17:39 Grandpa takes off his hat and then uses a stick and whacks him cross the head knocks him out. Mm-hmm now I
00:17:45 Will say they were very strategic because Darrell was hurt, you know, he did get shot in the ear
00:17:53 So that was the perfect perfect opportunity for them to then turn on him and say, all right, he's down now
00:17:58 Let's reveal our true colors and take all of his stuff and knock him out. So did I was a very smart?
00:18:04 He got shot in the ear. Yeah, he got shot. Oh the guy went to shoot. He got shot
00:18:10 So he was he was wounded because there was blood
00:18:12 I
00:18:15 Mean it was right right next to his face. It's like may not have been his ear, but it was right there
00:18:20 So he got wounded and that's when they took advantage of him and said, all right
00:18:24 But then that's the key part of that scene is that we see that the young woman
00:18:29 She's she stabs the other one right in the head the the dead soldier guy just to make sure she knows
00:18:35 They're gonna come back they come back
00:18:37 And it looks like she was walking over to finish off Darrell at this point. He's almost about to be unconscious
00:18:45 You know, he's in and out of it
00:18:46 But then he sees a figure come closer and then gunshot and then he'll run him off
00:18:51 So that was interesting. That was a cool twist
00:18:54 Because at first though I was thinking I was like, well, he's over here trying to help them
00:18:59 And by giving him supplies they offered to give him stuff. It's like
00:19:03 Do you trust them and that was the thing with Darrell Darrell wasn't that trusting but
00:19:09 He sort of always wanted to help as opposed to feel if it was Maggie that was there
00:19:13 She probably would have just walked away, you know would have answered any questions because that's how they've been doing things with her
00:19:20 But he wakes up and now it looks like he's in a monastery. There's a bunch of nuns. They're helping him out
00:19:28 They're giving him a bath
00:19:30 You know, you get some interesting scenes with him wearing no shirt and he's got all these scars
00:19:36 I start thinking back at the time with Negan and the torture but no he tells them none that his dad did this
00:19:42 Which I I don't understand that
00:19:45 he was like, oh my dad like to smoke or something like that he said or he had some issues and
00:19:49 Then he sees that the woman also has some marks on her and he's like, oh it sounds like you looks like you have backstory
00:19:56 She's gone
00:19:58 But
00:19:59 But just that alone
00:20:00 It was like alright
00:20:01 So I I figured this was the point where we would get more of the backstory and we don't and this is also during that
00:20:08 whole meetup where she acts like how did you get here and he was like a bunch of bad decisions and
00:20:13 I was upset because I was like not what I want to hear. I want to know exactly how you ended up in France
00:20:21 but they
00:20:23 And who knows?
00:20:25 Well, probably what no no most likely we definitely will get that answered as we get later in this episode
00:20:32 They sort of cleared some of it up, you know, and he sort of explains it
00:20:36 But still I need more because it still sounds too crazy
00:20:38 It's not too crazy
00:20:39 and I think that's
00:20:41 What's always gonna be their issue because I can imagine just all the writers coming up with this idea of France and this is that?
00:20:47 Like alright, so what do we find for the lead?
00:20:49 Again, you guys get Darryl how I don't know. We'll figure it out
00:20:54 How does that even happen
00:21:00 It's like watching Jason X, you know Jason in space, you know
00:21:04 It's like how does he we'll figure it out, but just just put that aside
00:21:08 Just imagine what would happen with Jason in space. Yes, that sounds fun
00:21:14 All right, then then don't worry about how we got there. Just think about the adventure
00:21:18 And so I think that's what we're getting here, but I would still like more
00:21:23 Insight on it, you know, so but still the set is cool. You see he's walking around as other nuns and then there's this little boy
00:21:31 He's doing a little mind trip with him because he's over here. He's eating he's doing
00:21:36 Dallas and doing this little thing and then the kid is mimicking and
00:21:40 Eventually little boy comes up to him shouldn't say little how old do you think he is?
00:21:44 Well, like preteens like a teenager. Yeah, like I want to say, I don't know maybe 12 13, maybe
00:21:50 But he's clearly smart right that's what they're trying to showcase with the Rubik's Cube and him talk about mention his baby shall me
00:22:00 It looks like he looks like tell me tell me. Yeah
00:22:03 Well, what was his name? You remember his name? It was a French name. All right, right. Yep. Yeah
00:22:10 All right. So there you go. He comes up just wants to do the chitter chatter with Daryl. All right
00:22:16 Yeah, how many people do you think you hear he does that whole stuff about life and France and repopulating?
00:22:22 so clearly he's into math and science and just trying to figure things out and
00:22:26 I'm surprised Darrell didn't just shoo him off like hey kid. I don't want to talk why you bothering me, you know
00:22:32 That's it. That's always been his attitude toward these type of things because he's a man on a mission
00:22:38 You know, but as he is goes exploring with Isabel, which is the the woman that's of the main nun that's running everything
00:22:46 He discovers some things going on here one
00:22:49 They have the the the main priest right who's turned locked away in a closet
00:22:55 Right with this and screaming out and this whole thing. I was like, all right
00:22:58 Well, you're keeping them around as a good luck charm who knows but he's there
00:23:01 This was a medieval church
00:23:03 and so they had a weapons room and you see a bunch of weapons and one was missing and
00:23:08 Almost like and once you said this I was like, oh, this is gonna be interesting
00:23:12 He was like, well, that's cuz I used a weapon there, but we're all trained to fight. It's like oh, here we go
00:23:17 This is it
00:23:19 This is this is what we've been waiting for something different right fighting nuns because they were they're wearing the full
00:23:24 White garment and they got the robes. Everything's going on here
00:23:27 Cuz at first and I told you guys when we watch I was like, oh, then be cool
00:23:32 It feels like cannibals, you know cannibal nuns, you know
00:23:35 like they're gonna fatten them up and then they're gonna have like a big dark ritual like a cult type thing and I'm like you are a
00:23:41 Blessing we've been so hungry
00:23:44 Like we cleaned them. Yes, we cleaned them. Let's eat
00:23:51 But no, they didn't go that route instead they went like you just
00:23:55 Hinted to rich they went the last of us routes with this and it's an escort
00:24:02 Right, and this plays into his past with certain things not just with the Walking Dead, but with the game
00:24:09 You know deaf stranding where he was a messenger and he would deliver packages and did all kinds of things
00:24:14 And so here it is now he's doing it on this show. That's the premise people try to figure out what's going on
00:24:20 What's the besides him trying to make it home? He has to bring this boy to another group in France now
00:24:27 They're saying that this boy is special and they show him some writings
00:24:31 showing Darryl and
00:24:33 The writings they just say oh someone's coming and he's going to do this and it's not really go. Yeah
00:24:38 Well, he's you know, no, no, he wrote this way before you showed up. He can see things. He knows things
00:24:43 He is like the future they write they were the Messiah. They use something of that wording
00:24:48 to show that he is someone of importance that they need to keep alive and he needs to be put with some other group and
00:24:55 That's it. They feel that Darryl was a chosen one to bring him. He is the message
00:25:02 He's the messenger to bring this boy to
00:25:05 the new location
00:25:08 Before I go any further
00:25:10 What did you guys think of that? Cuz that's the story right now
00:25:13 This is what it's hinting that the rest of the season is going to be about this journey
00:25:17 So, what do you think of this? Does this work for you Carlos?
00:25:21 Well, we'll see as far as if it would work for me we'll see how the season goes
00:25:28 You know all of us when we were watching the watching the episode
00:25:32 We were kind of like and we made the comparison earlier the last of us, you know
00:25:36 The in this court mission for a child a child and the and the older guy
00:25:41 So it's not even that but also his mother died during childbirth
00:25:46 During childbirth about the kid. So, you know, we'll see how that goes, you know
00:25:52 Well, those comparisons are gonna be made throughout
00:25:55 You know in the discourse. I'm pretty sure when people
00:25:59 People are watching this and as the season progresses, so we'll see
00:26:04 The kid the kid is really smart. He speaks more than one language when in an apocalypse where you know
00:26:12 Traveling doesn't seem like a doesn't seem pretty. Yeah. Yeah. He's fluent in English. It's fluent in English. Yeah
00:26:18 I'm guessing Isabelle is his English teacher because they spoke English to each other a little bit. So
00:26:24 English
00:26:27 And that was pretty cool as well. She explained how she learned English from her parents. They traveled a lot, right?
00:26:32 They were like missionaries or some sort. Yeah, and
00:26:35 the kid the kid knows
00:26:38 he was predicting what the population of France is and
00:26:42 How it can go back to its former glory at 60 some million people
00:26:46 It's interesting. I mean the kid the kid is smart. I don't know, you know, I
00:26:52 Don't really see you know what his role will be in the future. But no sir Thomas
00:26:57 Dom is you I
00:27:02 like to bathe
00:27:05 It was like that
00:27:07 It was weird that he liked to wash himself because they felt
00:27:10 During that time period that if you didn't wash yourself, then you were protecting yourself from Harper
00:27:14 So why wash all that off now you're leaving yourself vulnerable, but apparently he was big into Notre Dame. This was big into bathing
00:27:20 The interesting thing is that
00:27:24 Not only you know, there was it was it was a place full of nuns
00:27:28 But they had imagery from like all the religions are all the all the major. Yeah
00:27:33 Yeah up on the walls and he's just like keeping your options open. Now. There's a great line. Oh, yeah, you're right
00:27:38 Yeah, I forgot what movie it was. It was the mummy. I think it was a mummy and it was one of the
00:27:44 Yeah, it was right. And when the mummy comes alive and the guys is praying and he says no not this one
00:27:49 He takes another chain now
00:27:51 But one of them did work remember he said one of them with the language and the guy stopped
00:27:58 I need to do with the do with the red hat, right? Yeah. Yeah, so he was right
00:28:02 So he spoke in the old tongue and the guy so hey, you never know
00:28:07 But yeah, so that was that was pretty cool
00:28:11 You know what I'm not gonna harp too much about the the similarities with those two because
00:28:18 Across the genre they all pick and choose they take they take pieces from each other
00:28:24 You know the last of us took stuff from the road the road took stuff from you know
00:28:29 Other apocalypse type shows and movies and books that were before so everybody picks and chooses and puts things together
00:28:35 And then there you go. So yeah, it only makes sense. Let's take some of that in the Walking Dead universe. Go ahead
00:28:43 Yeah, exactly. And I was gonna say there is at least one major difference though
00:28:48 I know at the last conversation that Darryl had with Isabel
00:28:52 He basically was saying he needs her help to get back as well
00:28:55 So kind of he's asking for her help, but he did he says, okay
00:29:00 And I will agree to get you where you are. So I kind of feel like she will be with them
00:29:04 Oh, yeah
00:29:06 Yeah, cuz that was the thing at first the way she was describing it was like hey you need to just take him
00:29:13 You know, I'm just going your way so he flips out, but no he doesn't want to do that
00:29:17 He's like, you know, I don't got time for this. I got my own plans my own mission
00:29:20 You know might as well just say thanks for the Frenchie clothes. I gotta go. You know, he grabs his bag
00:29:25 he looks all cleaned up now and
00:29:27 Maybe they gave him a good shave because he's got the five o'clock shadow thing going and all that and then he's good to go
00:29:33 So he leaves, you know, so the nuns are like, all right, whatever if it's meant to be we'll see what happens
00:29:38 but we'll just cut real quick because
00:29:40 We now go back to the woman and the old man and they're walking on the road
00:29:47 Rule number one you don't do that, right? We've learned that from walking dead. You'll never walk on roads
00:29:52 What is up with this like, yeah, especially after what they just pulled off and all the craziness don't walk on the roads
00:29:59 So they're walking on the roads. We can't hear the car roaring down because there's no real sounds right there out in some other countryside
00:30:07 But it just pops up behind them, you know, and they're like, oh wow surprise whatever but it's some soldiers
00:30:14 sure enough we get a nice close-up and a low close-up of
00:30:19 I guess they're just trying to point out. This is the big bad. All right, this is the big bad boss
00:30:24 And he comes out and is like hey, what are you guys doing? It isn't that long story short?
00:30:28 His brother was killed wants to know what happened, right?
00:30:33 Well, what happened to the brother and the whole thing and then they were like, oh
00:30:36 We'll take you to this and that it was it was someone else who is a whole big thing
00:30:41 So the guy gets pissed he kills the old man and he grabs a girl and like let's go they go back to that location
00:30:47 He sees, you know the other dude that's dead and then he's looking around and so well, where's my brother?
00:30:56 Where's was and sure enough? He was just kind of funny
00:30:59 Because all right if he turns into a walker
00:31:03 Alright, but why would the walking go into the house?
00:31:06 And you know
00:31:09 That's what I was thinking
00:31:11 What is the walk again up and say I gotta go indoors. I'm tired
00:31:15 You know why end up there if anything he should just be standing there in that courtyard. I
00:31:22 Agree, I think they did that for the dramatic effect of the dramatic. Oh, they definitely did because it had that
00:31:30 That season 2 Carol and her daughter
00:31:34 Effect coming out of the barn
00:31:37 That's a perfect comparison right where she's coming out and you see her face and that was the thing he was devastated
00:31:44 This is his brother and he couldn't believe it and brothers turn now if you take a good look
00:31:50 This brother is just a typical Walker. He does not have that green goo stuff going on. That acid is not part of it
00:31:57 He's just Walker and this goes back to to how the nun was explaining
00:32:03 What are the what's the nun or was it the woman the girl? I think it was I'm blank
00:32:10 Well, maybe it was a girl
00:32:11 I think was a girl when she was explained that there was different variants of them, right?
00:32:15 You came across a burner. I think it was a nun that said that yeah, it was a no
00:32:18 Yeah. Oh, yeah, it wasn't none because she cleaned up his wound. That's right. Yeah, and
00:32:22 They said yeah, you know because there was a whole process there and she explained that there's variants. Okay, that's it on plural
00:32:30 So get ready that this is it. I think and we'll get into
00:32:33 I'm not gonna call a spoiler because it's there you see it at the end this episode. Maybe you wouldn't catch it
00:32:39 We know definitely didn't watch world beyond because like a handful of people saw that but that last episode world beyond
00:32:46 Was very key to what we were hoping we would get in this show
00:32:50 But we'll get to that. So anyway, this happens
00:32:54 Brother walks up to him
00:32:56 Big bad brother now is devastated. Seizes he you know
00:33:00 Put some down stabs and whatever
00:33:03 But then he picks him up and holds him, you know, and it's touching it's sad
00:33:09 It's sad, but it's like hey, this this is the life but then he lets go and he's like back to business
00:33:15 Who did this? We know did it she's standing right there
00:33:18 Actually the American the American
00:33:21 It was like, all right. I knew I saw this coming. We knew this is gonna happen. Of course, it's gonna say that
00:33:27 It's like alright, and then he sees there's a flyer and that was a flyer for that monastery, right?
00:33:32 so that's the thing that I'm
00:33:34 confused about
00:33:36 because
00:33:37 Why is a monastery making flyers for people to come and join them when I only?
00:33:43 From what we've seen there's just a bunch of nuns and a boy, right? I didn't see other people there. I didn't see families
00:33:50 I don't
00:33:51 But he knows where to go. He's like, oh, well, this is wrong
00:33:55 Poof. He says you've been spared whatever right?
00:33:59 She she he lets her go and he jumps in his Jeep with his buddies and off they go to the monastery. So now
00:34:07 They're connecting because now we got Daryl on the road leaving to go to who knows where he's the wandering man
00:34:14 He's now Morgan in France, right doing that whole thing. And then we got the Jeep coming up the road see
00:34:20 Unlike the young woman and the old guy
00:34:24 Daryl has played this game before so he jumps off the road and hides in the bushes
00:34:30 Sure enough. He sees the same type of soldiers that he had to deal with and now they're headed toward the monastery
00:34:37 so
00:34:39 We know where this is going
00:34:41 This is going right. So there we go
00:34:44 so before going any further anything else you wanted to say about that scene with the brother and and
00:34:49 The death and the interaction with that woman. Do you think she's gonna play a major role? Cool as she is, you know, I
00:34:56 mean
00:34:58 She knows English. So
00:35:00 She'll be involved
00:35:04 Well, see we'll see what what her role eventually leads up to be I mean she's she's the one that eventually that
00:35:10 Let you know
00:35:12 Darrell essentially get away because she could have killed him too
00:35:16 Well, it looks like she was gonna kill him if it wasn't for that nun that showed up
00:35:20 Yeah, because they looked like she had stabbed him in the the the soldier in the head
00:35:26 And then she was walking toward him and then that's when the shot went off and then she went running
00:35:31 So, yeah, you're right. You're right
00:35:34 Oh, so interesting. Yeah, so
00:35:36 I'm not sure how she's gonna
00:35:39 Delve into this story. But again, but uh, she's she's gonna she's gonna be back. I
00:35:45 Just want to add I I think that she will be helping to provide information to the other group
00:35:52 That is gonna be looking for Darrell
00:35:55 The way that we do we're introduced at the we meet at the end of the episode
00:36:01 She's definitely the the thief she's definitely that that wild card of like she's gonna play both she reminds me of
00:36:08 Was it the doctor that was in lost in space?
00:36:11 That when they did the the remake one that was on Netflix
00:36:16 Who uh, who falsified her information that saying that she was a doctor and doing also when she wasn't but she played every side
00:36:23 For her own game and that's what I think is gonna happen here
00:36:27 She's gonna do whatever is best for her because clearly she had no remorse about killing soldier or
00:36:32 What she did with Darrell cuz they didn't have to do that. They could have just been like, alright
00:36:37 Thanks for helping us out. Clearly you're on our side, but no, they you know, they knocked him out. They're ready to kill him
00:36:42 She stole from him, you know, she picked his pockets because she had his translator book
00:36:46 So, I mean she doesn't care. So yeah, but I'm feeling what will come across her as well again
00:36:53 So we see the group
00:36:56 Soldiers they head to the monastery
00:36:58 They're getting ready. The nuns are all prepping the one the Isabel which is the main nun
00:37:05 She then gives the boy some keys lock yourself in this room. Don't come out
00:37:10 All right guy shows up. So it's asked some questions and then it's like where is this American? He's got to be here
00:37:18 All right, so they're searching around
00:37:20 They're not finding anything the little boy does typical little boy mistakes trying to open up the door
00:37:26 No, he finally decided to lock the door when he heard noises outside. He should have locked it once
00:37:32 It's about left. He didn't but by doing so now that pointed in their direction in his direction because of the noise
00:37:39 So then they walked to the door and it's that tense moment
00:37:43 They were trying to build up of like, oh, they're gonna find him and it's like but even if they do
00:37:47 What are they gonna do with it? He's just a boy. That's not who they're looking for. So that's why I still didn't understand
00:37:53 It's not like they were also looking for this. She never mentioned
00:37:57 Oh the some militia group is also looking they know he has these ability, you know, I mean there is none of that
00:38:03 So why who cares if if he was found or not?
00:38:08 That's why I don't understand why they were hiding him in in the first place
00:38:11 If anything they don't know like who's this? Oh, there's a little young boy, you know, so we picked up
00:38:15 He cleans the house and empties out the pot
00:38:18 Yes, my guess is that
00:38:22 there there's there's sort of like a wink wink agreement between
00:38:26 that group and the monastery because I'm pretty sure the monastery is just is all female and
00:38:34 And the militia is mostly just boys
00:38:36 so, you know if if there is if there is any any any boys or
00:38:42 young men
00:38:44 Going around they probably want them to be part of their militia. Oh, so like a recruiting process
00:38:49 Yeah, oh, why did you have this one boy? You know, it's like oh no, you know, we need all hands on deck
00:38:55 So we're taking them. So yeah, maybe maybe well, that's how
00:38:59 It's possible because a little bit happens and we'll get to it's coming to it
00:39:04 so just when they're about to
00:39:06 Open up the door trying to open up to them because they now here he's taking some slow steps back and it's a creaky room
00:39:13 It's old next, you know you hear from the other group. They start screaming some stuff, right?
00:39:18 So they run off to go find out what's going on and the guys freaking out because he sees that they have one of the walkers
00:39:23 Locked up and they explained this was the priest the whole thing. So the big bad says hey put him down and
00:39:30 The nun is like no, no, no, you can't do this
00:39:33 The soldier that's supposed to do this now. It's like oh no, but this is a priest. How can I do that?
00:39:39 I'm gonna go to hell for this
00:39:41 It was he's got his spirit. I'm sorry father. I'm sorry, and then he does it
00:39:46 But once he does that then we see the little boy running. No, why'd you do this?
00:39:51 Oh, and now they're freaking out like what's this kid doing here and all this and maybe I mean
00:39:56 There's a lot of subtitles getting tossed in maybe I missed it that they mentioned like why are you you know harboring this little boy?
00:40:04 I don't know but eventually they said we're taking him
00:40:07 right because remember they grabbed me like he's coming with us and then that's when Darryl shows up and kills one of the dudes there and
00:40:14 Then it gets crazy. So before I go any further
00:40:18 What did you guys think of the thing with the priest and then the nuns and anything because the next scene as you know
00:40:24 This was this was like the meat potatoes of this episode. So leading up to this was it's alright. I
00:40:29 Think they did a very good job building the tension
00:40:32 From when you saw that army the group coming towards the monastery and then everything that happened right after that
00:40:38 I think they did a very good job
00:40:40 with that entire sequence of events
00:40:42 I knew that the boy was going to be hesitant to lock the door when they told him to because
00:40:49 Apparently I guess that happens on every show now. Yeah
00:40:52 but
00:40:54 No, they don't listen, but but I I didn't have any complaints for how they handled it
00:40:59 I think that was a very well done a lot of tension
00:41:02 So it definitely kept people on the edge of their seat. It definitely kept me on the edge of my seat
00:41:06 So I I agree with rich when they told when they told when they told him not to
00:41:11 Lock the door not let anyone go through when you who wasn't gonna pay attention
00:41:15 That's the laws of the chosen ones everyone in every
00:41:18 Don't pay attention to anyone
00:41:22 That's just what happens. Well, oh, that's the thing. He doesn't know
00:41:25 It's not like the last Emperor or remember that one with the little boy and or Anakin Skywalker
00:41:30 Yeah, exactly. This one doesn't know they're like it's too much of a burden on a young boy, you know
00:41:37 So he doesn't know that he's special but he knows he sees things and he's predicting but yeah
00:41:42 I was I felt like this was good good below but what happened after this I could have not I could
00:41:48 That all I mean they I should have because the nun had said
00:41:52 Oh, yeah, we're all trained to fight and sure enough. You see she grabs a knife. She's got blades other ones got weapons
00:41:59 We at one scene we see a bunch of nuns like I don't like a path and they're blocking and the soldiers looking like oh
00:42:05 Well, and they just start fucking shot
00:42:07 So many nuns get shot on TV
00:42:13 Here we go. They're dropping they're fighting they're losing blades. It's it's all our craziness happening here
00:42:21 They didn't go full like warrior type or like John wick, you know
00:42:25 cuz I was expecting some nut stuff going on with some of the
00:42:29 The nuns I was like that'd be nothing like a flying nun, but a different term, you know, like jumping off
00:42:34 Like stabbing the guy in the head or something they go that crazy, but they were they were defending themselves
00:42:41 They were fighting and then all this chaos is going on
00:42:44 of course, we get to the the the big conflict between Daryl and the big boss and
00:42:50 I keep calling big boss because I don't know if they mentioned his name if they did they did in subtitles and I missed it
00:42:55 But the guy who's the leader of this group and they start fighting it out and sure enough
00:43:01 Daryl is not gonna be able to kill this guy in the first episode
00:43:04 So they're rolling it out right there rolling on the ground and doing that whole thing. The the bad dude gets the upper hand
00:43:10 he's standing above him he's got his gun he's ready to put him down and
00:43:14 Isabel comes to help right? I'm pretty sure that was Isabel. She hits him
00:43:20 He hits his arm. He drops the gun down picks up the gun shoots shoots the guy in the shoulder and
00:43:25 Then goes running after him and this is the part that I don't get
00:43:30 This is there was a very few parts. I didn't understand. I like I mentioned with brother
00:43:35 I get the I tricks all thing of coming out the house, but but still why did you now this when Darryl's running after shooting?
00:43:42 So we're this guy
00:43:44 Another nun the older nun comes and tries to stop him like gets in his way
00:43:49 Remember, and he's gonna move up the way. Why would she do that? Why is she do he just his people?
00:43:55 Just killed a bunch of your nuts. What is going on here? I didn't understand that part, but go ahead
00:44:01 You got something I I didn't I didn't understand that either and I think that what Carlos made the comment about perhaps
00:44:08 There is some type of connection between the nuns in that army. That would be a very good reason to say that because
00:44:16 She like like all the other guys on his team got killed but no a we don't kill this one, of course
00:44:22 It was definitely up with that. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't I didn't understand that it was like if anything yeah kill him because then
00:44:30 No one knows that they're even there because he never called it in. You don't hear him on a walkie-talkie saying
00:44:36 All right, listen, we're going to a monastery to the
00:44:38 And we still don't know much about that group what's going on with them. But yeah, that was that was weird
00:44:44 Sure enough. He runs out of bullets. Hey and the guy takes off he gets away
00:44:50 so
00:44:52 The next scene we see is that they're all the remaining group or together
00:44:56 They're burning all the bodies of all the dead no mass on you really need mass if you're cremating like that
00:45:02 I don't think that's great to the air-conditioned. It's not good
00:45:07 You know, but anyway, they're doing that and this is where to you what you have brought up earlier of the journey
00:45:14 So now it looks like Darrell is all in on. All right, fine. Let's let's do this with the boy, but he needs help and
00:45:20 She's going to join him or at least if not all the nuns definitely Isabel is going along for this journey
00:45:28 So that's that's gonna be that that's the group
00:45:32 If you look at my IMDB you see there's a whole bunch of other cast members
00:45:38 So I'm sure there's other people that that'll come along and then as we saw in
00:45:42 Some of the other scenes we'll get to after it looks like it's gonna be an interesting ride. I'm looking forward to everything else
00:45:48 It's two nuns plus Darrell plus a little shallow me. So two nuns. So you think there's another nun?
00:45:54 So there was another one that was still was singing remember? Yeah, but is she gonna go with them? That's the thing
00:45:59 I don't know if they're all leaving the monastery
00:46:02 They don't give her they don't make her sing if she's not gonna stick around. She had the guitar to her
00:46:08 I think she was yeah, there's yeah, she's using here for the long haul and then I found out like can I see that guitar?
00:46:15 It's like okay here and smash it
00:46:17 You're gonna give us our location away. Everybody's gonna find us. You can't be playing your songs. Oh
00:46:23 You can't be happy here, you know, so up there goes that right that's that's and I was like, okay, this is where it ends
00:46:34 No, it doesn't it doesn't end there. It's been there because then we see again with the big bad. He's in Jeep
00:46:40 He made it to the Jeep. He's driving off. He's pissed
00:46:42 And I then I was like, oh, this is it. This is a big bad
00:46:46 Maybe we're gonna see him call somebody and say yeah, this is war but no no none of that
00:46:51 now we get it's at another location in France and
00:46:55 Some of the backstory that Darrell of his bad decisions start coming to light
00:47:02 Because we see there's a woman there talking to a captain and of a boat and I was like, right what happened here?
00:47:09 could you see there's a bunch of walkers now like in cages stuff and if an
00:47:12 Incident happened on board of the ship and it caused problems people then and then they died then they turn
00:47:20 You know how this works. All right. Well, how'd this start an
00:47:23 American that we picked up then American you picked it. All right. So where is it? Let me say oh he is the he died
00:47:32 Wow, he fell overboard
00:47:34 So, you know, he's dead
00:47:35 No
00:47:35 No
00:47:35 And that's kind of dumb because if you're out in the ocean and someone says he fell over what I would also assume is that
00:47:42 You know, but she made it seem like how could you even assume that well, this isn't John wicker anybody
00:47:48 I mean, this is a Rambo. We just picked up some guy
00:47:51 you know and there goes that and
00:47:55 And that's at some point. Also. He had mentioned Darrell later on had talked about when to the nun
00:48:02 I think it was during the campfire. I'm gonna call it the campfire scene with the cremation
00:48:07 but when he had said that um
00:48:09 He was picked up by some bad guys
00:48:12 That were taking him away
00:48:14 But he didn't again
00:48:15 We don't know why the bad guys decided to put you on a boat and send you to France like a slave labor
00:48:20 I don't know, you know
00:48:22 And that's what I'm assuming that they were grabbing people and that's what it is
00:48:25 It's like we're gonna enslave you to do work to rebuild
00:48:29 Whatever, you know that their new community maybe that's what was going on here. But they were sending him to France and
00:48:36 So it looks like that happened and he escaped
00:48:40 But then poof as you see he's still alive. And so she's like well we have to find this American
00:48:47 What's his name and he goes by a Dixon?
00:48:50 It's like okay Dixon and this is when she gets real close to the captain's face. I'm like, all right get ready for a knife
00:48:57 But no it doesn't happen but then she looks over to her left and I'm like, oh, oh the goon is gonna do it
00:49:06 No, he doesn't either
00:49:07 So I'm like, oh, what was all that about then?
00:49:10 Dramatic nothing happened
00:49:12 You know, so then she walks away and that's it. So now we know there's another big bad, right?
00:49:19 She is if not the boss. She is a commander of this unit
00:49:24 She is now looking to find
00:49:27 Daryl Dixon, which is weird that you would look for somebody who went overboard in the ocean
00:49:32 Why who cares cuz she even said like who is he? He's like, he's nobody
00:49:36 Nothing special. He's not like special forces. He was the president or so, you know, I mean like who is he? He's nobody
00:49:44 And so that's that's her goal. So we know he's now being hunted Daryl is by mr
00:49:51 big bad who wants to seek out vengeance because he still thinks that he killed his brother and
00:49:56 now this woman in her group that want to find him because he ruined their
00:50:02 literal livestock because that's what it looked like they were transporting all these people over to France and
00:50:09 That's what's going on here because at the same time
00:50:13 Daryl's mission is
00:50:15 Clothing now, he knows he's got somebody out to get him the big bad, but he doesn't know about the other one
00:50:20 But his goal is to escort these people to some other location
00:50:24 That have a bunch of wise people that are trying to do something right because that's still it sounds all very
00:50:33 mystical and and then like always
00:50:37 Magic involves because he was like, oh he's the prophet and these people there's a whole other group like a cult almost
00:50:43 It was weird, but he's going along with it now because he sees what if he doesn't what if he doesn't they just gonna come
00:50:50 Back and kill everybody right? They're gonna kill that boy because he knows that guy got away
00:50:55 So they he has to go somewhere and in turn he's going to she says she knows where the port is and stuff for him
00:51:02 To go on a boat to leave
00:51:05 So I guess that's the win-win take go to a big port town
00:51:09 Hopefully it's close to where he drops them off gets on a boat and goes so
00:51:14 Before I go any further
00:51:16 Carlos, what did you think of all that that story now that we have?
00:51:20 a lot of story with what we just saw because at first we could said oh, it's just a big bad hunting down a
00:51:28 Darrell as he tries to escort this boy, but no now this is a mother group. Do you think they're connected or
00:51:35 Yeah, I have no clue it's hard to tell at this point
00:51:39 but I wouldn't be surprised or I wouldn't be surprised because
00:51:44 Obviously the the guy the guy that's in that was in the militia at the beginning
00:51:50 He has qualms with Darrell because of his brother and now the the lady in the in the organization within the docks
00:51:58 She has a qualms with Darrell because of you know, what happened with that crew
00:52:03 You know probably messing with their shipments and stuff
00:52:05 So so yeah, I would I wouldn't doubt if they would combine their powers to try to get Darrell sort of begin, you know
00:52:13 We'll see. I I'm not entirely sure if they have previous connections
00:52:18 But I wouldn't be surprised if they team up for you know for the common interest to get rid of Darrell
00:52:24 Yeah, that's pretty much what I think so
00:52:29 So there are two things that I do want to say I'm gonna respond to that question
00:52:33 But let me just say this to go back to what you said earlier Adam
00:52:37 They definitely need to show us what happened to Darrell instead of telling us
00:52:41 yes telling the story they have to show that because and I think they didn't show that because
00:52:47 It would make you much
00:52:49 Maybe it's too much. But also it would make you question if the character truly is a good person
00:52:56 See, this is just like with the Last of Us comparison because you saw Joel
00:53:00 Become a bad person. Well, he was always a bad person
00:53:04 But you saw that on the show with this particular show
00:53:07 We always look at Darrell as the good guy
00:53:09 But obviously something happened with this situation that they didn't show us for a reason
00:53:13 So I want to see what happened before he got to France to explain that if they go down that path
00:53:21 You'll see and and this is a question I have for you guys
00:53:25 we talked about this previously where I predicted and I'm pretty sure I'm gonna be right and
00:53:29 I've been kind of proven right by the first episode is we're not gonna get we're not gonna get a sort of like a huge
00:53:37 you know lower dump of
00:53:39 This is what happened previously to arrive in France or previously before being set to set to see
00:53:45 Instead we're gonna get a whole bunch of flashbacks throughout the entire season
00:53:51 I'm not
00:53:53 I thought if we were we would have saw some of that cuz yeah, we talked about we did we did see
00:53:58 We did see some of that
00:53:59 What when we saw we saw the the one where Darrell is all the water where you seem floating in the water
00:54:06 Floating in the water. That was like the first little glimpse and then we did and then and then we got to the whole
00:54:12 with other people
00:54:14 at the end of the episode where they're talking about their connection to Darrell and Darrell mentions about the whole thing with
00:54:21 the you know incorporated with bad folks and
00:54:23 And I'm pretty sure the rest of the episodes we're not gonna get something as conclusive next episode
00:54:30 But we're gonna get another little Lord dump as part of a flashback
00:54:32 We did get the flashback with Judith and Carol so we just screen just still shots of just flashbacks of this like memory
00:54:41 So before people get all hyped up this this is the what this could be it
00:54:44 But but my question is do you guys prefer just maybe half an episode an episode
00:54:53 I don't know have an episode to an episode
00:54:55 Dedicated to just give us the story of what happened instead of doing all these little chunks of flashbacks
00:55:01 throughout the scene. I
00:55:03 Personally think a half of the episode will be good
00:55:07 Especially if it's and this just goes to the second point because I actually have a prediction
00:55:12 For something in the show that I think I don't know if they're gonna go down this path
00:55:16 But in my opinion this other villain they introduced this woman
00:55:22 I feel she does have a connection to this and my thought was
00:55:26 Goes back to what you made the comment earlier. Well, he said Oh Laurent his mom died, right? She died in birth, right?
00:55:33 What is this woman? What if this woman actually is his mom? Oh
00:55:37 Don't don't
00:55:39 That that would that would make it a lot more complex because obviously we know Darrell's gonna have to deal with them as well
00:55:46 But if this woman ends up becoming the rots mom or there's some connection there that makes it a complicated a more much more interesting
00:55:53 twist
00:55:56 But I don't know but but that's why I say I think we do need to see what happened in the past
00:56:01 But they there's a reason why they didn't show it yet. I'm assuming I hope hopefully we get some flashbacks
00:56:05 But that's just my guess that we definitely need to see more of what actually happened because again that was a stand-up guy
00:56:11 He's the hero of the show. So why?
00:56:13 You know keep that a mystery as to what happened to him before he got to this into this situation
00:56:20 you know, there's a reason for that and
00:56:22 So well because yeah, it goes back to it. Oh, I made some bad decisions. I can't imagine him
00:56:29 joining a
00:56:32 Horrible group, you know a group that was harming others Raiders or whatever, you know to rating community
00:56:39 I can't see that. That's the path that he took that
00:56:42 That'll I don't get so bad decisions to me means he wanted to help somebody and that person double-crossed him
00:56:50 Sort of like what happened there with the young woman and the old guy tried to help out and then look what happened
00:56:57 You know it and maybe that's what happened here back wherever that ended up on the boat
00:57:02 he tried to help somebody out and turned out he was helping the bad people and
00:57:06 Next you know, he finds himself on a boat when for you what you talked about Carl's
00:57:11 Maybe if there's a flashbacks all the time like arrow we talked about that because that was infamous for those flashbacks
00:57:18 I mean throughout the whole series
00:57:20 They did they I thought maybe first season. All right. Yeah, tell us how he survived
00:57:24 Oh, no every season even when he left
00:57:28 They would do a flashbacks right? He went to other areas. I'm like too much. I don't want that
00:57:33 I don't need that but it would be great if
00:57:36 There's six episodes if at least the fifth episode they just put it all out there, you know
00:57:43 Maybe he takes a long nap and then we see
00:57:45 The major bad decision that led to him getting on a boat going to France because again, it's just that trip to France
00:57:54 How do you end up on a boat to France from from where they were the Commonwealth?
00:57:59 Which is they had said what was it like Baltimore area originally? I don't I
00:58:04 Don't know. I don't know but he was on his motorcycle. So who knows how far he could have gone with that
00:58:11 I mean you still have to find gas. So I
00:58:13 There's a lot if they decide to do the backstory and who knows second season could be all backstory
00:58:20 You know that that could be the the twist right there is like man what really happened?
00:58:25 well, we're gonna go through that and the second season and
00:58:28 It's just gonna be all flashbacks. And if that does well, then we'll come back for a season three and loop it around
00:58:34 I don't think they'll go that far with all of that. I don't want to see a full season of
00:58:39 Flashbacks, but we definitely want to know they know we want to know they know everybody wants to know because that is a crazy
00:58:47 Story, but then I also think they want to move past it already. They want us to be immersed in this new experience
00:58:53 And there's new location new beds new everything and I'm all in I like it
00:58:59 There's a lot of new possibilities that we can experience here
00:59:02 Of course the variant and that's where I want to get into real quick
00:59:06 when they showed and for people that watch this maybe they
00:59:10 People just fast forward like ah, whatever. There's like sneak peeks of what's happening for the upcoming episodes, right?
00:59:16 They do a little montage clip clip clip clip clip the last
00:59:19 Frame the last scene you see a walker
00:59:23 run
00:59:25 Like turn its head and just go running
00:59:27 That's the variant by the way, by the way, I need to cut you off
00:59:32 I'm pretty sure you know for folks listening to the show that have been paying attention
00:59:36 You could have guessed by watching this episode. What was out of favorite part of this whole episode?
00:59:42 It's just watching that variant run that expecting this for like
00:59:46 Because when we were covering world beyond which was a waste of time of a show
00:59:53 Everybody for the viewers and listeners the people that listened
00:59:58 I wish I could give them a thumbs up because I was like man this that was painful
01:00:03 That was painful covering that show but that last episode
01:00:08 Introduced it went to France and he showed a doctor and was sending a message that they have experienced some mutations going on over in their
01:00:15 location sure enough something happens she turns and then
01:00:19 Just starts running and runs toward the door and knows instantly to run to the door
01:00:25 It's like so they there's some other things going on that it's like they're not fully
01:00:30 Zombied, you know, there's more brain activity that still remember certain things, but they were running
01:00:38 And so that's what we're excited about and then the showrunner
01:00:41 I blanked on the name of this one because it was a different show runner who had talked about
01:00:46 Answering that question because it was in like a Q&A and like oh and world beyond you at the end
01:00:53 This is a runner. What's is that? Is that just a little tied to world beyond?
01:00:57 It's like no no world beyond is done. It's two seasons. We're not coming back, but
01:01:01 We could see that in other forms in other spin-offs and realms
01:01:07 They didn't even know about the Darryl so they didn't even talk about that
01:01:10 So when this was announced that all right Darryl show great. Where is it? It's in France
01:01:16 That's what triggered because that took place in France with the doctor and the variant and the runner something like this is it it has
01:01:23 to happen in
01:01:25 This one and they didn't show it in the teaser trailer and the official launch trailer. They're not even talking about it, but
01:01:32 We know she said variants
01:01:34 We know now about the gooey ones that can burn you and all this stuff and then that one glimpse of the runner
01:01:40 And so yes, it's not full 28 days later because they're not all runners
01:01:46 So that's okay because that means that we're gonna get sprinkles of them
01:01:50 So one minute they're walking around killing walkers and the next minute they just hear the running and then they're like what's going on?
01:01:57 And it's like it jumps on the call man. And this is what it needed, right?
01:02:01 This is the fresh shot in the arm that the Walking Dead universe. It needed variants
01:02:07 You can't you just can't have the same walk just walking around
01:02:10 You need to have
01:02:13 Changes it needs to change. It's just way to
01:02:16 Variants would need to have variants just like every zombie shooter game. We played left for dead bad for blood last of us
01:02:25 Yes, there's zombies, but there's variants the blowers the spitters the runners the jumpers
01:02:31 Yeah
01:02:32 And that changes things up and the freshens things up so you never know what to expect
01:02:36 And if that's what we're gonna get and they could be more we don't know they could be all kinds
01:02:42 This is gonna be a fantastic show because of that because we don't know what to expect. It's not like oh great
01:02:48 They're gonna go in the room find a bunch of walkers stab them in the head and then more drama
01:02:52 No now they can come up with these acid guys. What else maybe they throw the acid some of them the runners
01:02:58 Maybe they're oozing fire out of who knows when she said about the fires
01:03:03 They call them fire burners or burners because of the acid burn
01:03:07 They mean there's little fire coming out of some of them just like a bunch of ghost riders, you know
01:03:12 That would be awesome as well. I'm all in but I'm just all in on variants altogether. So I'm
01:03:18 excited for it
01:03:21 Let me see anything else anything else you guys want to say before we just wrap it up and then give our final thoughts
01:03:26 No, that's deep. No. All right. All right. So so rich first episode Daryl Dixon horrible show title, but great show
01:03:35 Well, at least I think what do you think? What do you think of this so far? Oh
01:03:38 Yeah, I thought it was a very good premiere episode
01:03:41 They had me intrigued. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing where the storyline goes
01:03:46 But yeah a very good walking dead spin-off so far and definitely definitely better than world beyond obviously
01:03:54 so
01:03:56 All right call us
01:03:59 Strong premiere episode definitely
01:04:02 full hour
01:04:04 Full hour dead city was was also a strong premiere. We kind of went down even though was still, you know, okay
01:04:12 Hoping that this stays more consistent than dead city did
01:04:15 The way that this this film or where this show was shot was really well done
01:04:22 Shout out to the to the nuns of or
01:04:25 put in the work and gave their lives for the sake of the of the chosen one and
01:04:31 Yeah, you know Daryl Daryl is a is a fan favorite
01:04:36 So we know that they're gonna put a lot more effort more budget
01:04:40 you know more care into a show with the number one character and
01:04:45 Like rich, I'm still
01:04:48 eagerly anticipating how the rest of the season is gonna fold out and
01:04:51 You know, we'll have more conclusive thoughts by that time
01:04:55 I'll tell you right now
01:04:58 I think regardless if this keeps going in this direction just from the premise of what we have now
01:05:04 Variance location France a fighting none, you know along for the journey
01:05:09 I mean this already has whatever the Rick and Michonne has planned to shame
01:05:15 Because I already know the Rick Michonne can't top this they can't because oh
01:05:19 Yeah, because the story
01:05:22 With the Civic Republic and all this stuff has already been told we know this from fear
01:05:27 Well, and all the stuff going on there unless they change things up where the variants get to the United States
01:05:34 So the mainland for the mothership area to Commonwealth all that stuff wherever they're going because I don't there's no way
01:05:40 Unless they decide to move this the Rick Michonne off to another location
01:05:45 that it can top this because
01:05:48 Yes, we will somebody argue with it. Well, look there is that variant with the one turning the door hinting that there were more
01:05:56 different types of approaching but go ahead rich I I
01:06:01 Agree, this is sounds more intriguing, but I'm very curious to hear what the people have to say about that particular
01:06:07 comment and whether or not they agree or disagree that because I
01:06:11 Obviously the people who love the Rick and Michonne character are gonna watch that other show. Oh, no
01:06:17 No, they're definitely gonna watch it. They're definitely watch but I don't think this it's gonna top this if this is in this direction
01:06:22 That's a great question
01:06:24 So if you are watching this show, I would like for you to leave a comment and let us know
01:06:28 Do you think that this show?
01:06:30 Already is better than Rick and Michonne. Do you think it has potential to be better than Rick and Michonne?
01:06:35 I'm very curious to hear what you all think about that. Oh, yeah. Yeah, there's definitely a topic
01:06:39 Definitely a topic because it's different. This is different from all the other spin-offs. Well, don't stop there on Dead Cities
01:06:46 Another spin-off with popular characters including our name
01:06:49 You know, give us our thoughts on the comparisons with those as well see exactly yeah because that's the other one
01:06:58 I was hoping we would see some variants in that one. We didn't get any we didn't get any of varying to that one
01:07:03 but it looks like it's all gonna be stuck on this and that's fine if this
01:07:07 this spin-off just
01:07:10 lives up to the
01:07:11 Expectations that they're putting forward because they're putting a lot with the nun and with the mystical powers whatever that's going on with this kid
01:07:19 This other group that may have other powers or a way of nurturing him in a way
01:07:26 Of course is another group then we don't know the whole thing with France and then how do you end up where?
01:07:31 What are the other people there? What's the situation in France?
01:07:33 Clearly, it's falling apart. So I don't know what what's going on
01:07:37 Why do you leave even if they are transporting, you know people into slave to slave labor? Why what are they doing? What's happening there?
01:07:45 There's a lot of different things going on here
01:07:49 That is an out of the scope and the norm from The Walking Dead which makes it interesting
01:07:54 Yeah, so with the Vicki Michonne, what what's alright so Michonne finds Rick?
01:07:58 I mean
01:07:59 There's probably still trying to figure that out because for the longest say they said they had a script and then they say oh we don't
01:08:04 Have a script. Oh, we're going back on the drawing board
01:08:06 So I don't I think they're still not sure how they're gonna put that together, but this this is different. It's different. It's interesting
01:08:14 I guess they picked the Darrell Dixon just to let The Walking Dead fans that we're not gonna tune in to another spin-off
01:08:22 No, he's there right? That's it. Why should I watch that spring off it with Darrell's in it? He is. Yeah, it's in the title
01:08:29 All right. I think that's why they did it
01:08:32 You know just to really throw it in people's faces. He's here. This is his show, you know, this is his show
01:08:39 It's like alright, we'll see and I'm sure
01:08:43 It'll do well because right now I'm pulled in and I think that's what they were hoping for
01:08:49 Yeah, we cover walking. Yeah, we like Walking Dead. We're gonna cover it anyway
01:08:53 But if I was a casual, you know flipping through and I heard about this and I watched his first episode
01:08:59 I think it's got enough to pull me in to watch the next episode. Like oh, how's this gonna play out? This is different
01:09:07 What's all this stuff going on? What acid acid beer? What was that? So Walker's with how do you even become an acid Walker?
01:09:13 You know, the other guy didn't become a Nasa Walker. He just died in turn
01:09:16 this is there's something certain when you die and that does it but
01:09:19 Whatever. I'm excited and we will be back next week for episode 2 of
01:09:26 Daryl Dixon
01:09:29 So thanks again everybody for tuning in over on iTunes
01:09:32 Spotify YouTube or wherever else you're finding us, but that's pretty much the predominant ones
01:09:38 Go ahead that you mentioned Richard mentioned
01:09:40 Do you think this is a good show and do you think this will be better than the Rick and Michonne?
01:09:45 I say yes
01:09:47 Yeah, so you could put whatever and give your thoughts and stuff and we can start that discussion
01:09:52 All right. Thanks again for supporting us and following us and commenting and stuff and we will be back
01:09:58 Alright everybody. Thanks Rich. Thanks Carlos. We have any time you
01:10:03 later folks later
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