Minister in the Prime Minister's Department (Law and Institutional Reforms) Datuk Seri Azalina Othman Said told the Dewan Rakyat on Monday (Sept 18) that the Prime Minister is scheduled to explain the outcome of the graft case involving Datuk Seri Dr Ahmad Zahid Hamidi in Parliament on Tuesday (Sept 19) afternoon.
She also said the government remained committed in separating the powers of the Attorney General and Public Prosecutor to ensure the integrity of the legal institution is preserved.
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She also said the government remained committed in separating the powers of the Attorney General and Public Prosecutor to ensure the integrity of the legal institution is preserved.
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01:25 Thank you, my second brother.
01:27 This is how I want to answer.
01:31 The reason why the State Council or the State Council
01:36 has made a decision on the 4th of this month
01:39 is that today is the State Council's anniversary.
01:42 Actually, I want to say here, Mr. Speaker,
01:46 I cannot answer the justification of the State Council
01:49 because I mentioned it in the statement.
01:51 There is nothing in this institution,
01:54 in this 145,
01:57 that states that the power of the State Council
02:01 and the State Council must report to the Cabinet Minister
02:06 or the Prime Minister.
02:07 There is nothing.
02:08 So I cannot answer for them.
02:10 Because the State Council that I mentioned earlier,
02:12 I hold on to the foundation of the word State Council,
02:15 this State Council is a State Council that is given by the institution
02:18 where it can make a statement and draw a judgment.
02:20 That is its right in the institution.
02:22 Until today, we in this Parliament agree to make a move to the institution
02:27 to determine what is actually bearable.
02:31 Some say it's a monetary system, some say it's a political case.
02:34 It can be.
02:35 Some say it's a case. I don't know.
02:36 That's why the State Council,
02:38 which respects my colleagues over there as experts,
02:43 we put it in two task forces,
02:46 which are empirical study and regulation,
02:52 to re-evaluate.
02:53 I want to be clear before I answer my second colleague's question.
02:56 He was once a Minister of Law.
02:59 He knows.
03:00 I believe that the people of Kota Baru are more experts than me.
03:03 But maybe because he's my colleague, he forgot.
03:05 Or he made it so he forgot.
03:06 But there's no problem.
03:07 I can tell you.
03:08 Answer.
03:09 With permission.
03:10 Yes.
03:11 Is it working? It's not finished yet.
03:13 I'll take you out for coffee.
03:15 My poor brother.
03:16 Let's go, brother.
03:17 My brother is waiting.
03:18 Don't be late.
03:19 When we want to do the reading of the empirical study,
03:28 I actually mentioned one year,
03:30 but the State Council told me they wanted one plus one, two years.
03:34 The reason is,
03:35 like what happened in the Parliament Services Act,
03:38 all Parliament officials don't want open service.
03:42 They don't want closed service.
03:45 They want open service.
03:46 That they can transfer to other government agencies.
03:48 The people behind me,
03:50 with their fierce faces,
03:51 they are Judicial Legal Services.
03:53 They don't want to be just a lawyer.
03:57 They want to have experience as a judge,
04:00 session squad judge, magistrate judge,
04:03 and most importantly,
04:04 to be an advisor to the government.
04:06 Because this experience will give them a great career.
04:10 So I think the government wants to be fair.
04:15 We won't force them.
04:16 We'll listen to their orders.
04:18 So I want to give my second answer.
04:20 Format in the United Kingdom.
04:22 The United Kingdom's lawyers are not politicians.
04:27 They have their own laws.
04:28 Because they want to determine that the lawyers,
04:31 in carrying out the power of the law,
04:33 they are the power of the law that is controlled.
04:36 Even though they have their own arguments,
04:38 but the arguments are controlled.
04:41 Then we have the system that is happening in Australia.
04:47 The Australian lawyer can also be the front bench,
04:51 cabinet minister.
04:52 And this is what happens when we remember,
04:55 I've mentioned this many times,
04:56 we had Minister Amno,
04:58 late Minister Hamzah,
05:00 late Minister Abu Qadir,
05:04 late Minister Tan Sri,
05:06 two cabinet ministers from the front bench.
05:09 If today, the minister decides that we,
05:14 one of us, maybe me,
05:16 become a state lawyer,
05:18 the power that I have,
05:20 I'm not only advising the government,
05:22 but also determining the law,
05:24 so when the people over there say,
05:26 this is the intention of selective prosecution,
05:29 it's possible.
05:31 Because politicians, it's possible.
05:33 But because today,
05:35 what is determined in our government today,
05:38 we, who hold the front bench position,
05:42 or the 15 people over there,
05:43 don't become state lawyers,
05:45 because the power that we have is so big.
05:48 That's why I've said this before,
05:50 separation is mandatory and reasonable.
05:53 But today, the government says that
05:57 separation of power is reasonable,
05:59 but it needs to be studied.
06:02 Separation of power is mandatory,
06:05 it needs to be discussed in the parliament,
06:07 because the parliament will decide
06:09 under the constitution,
06:10 to change the law,
06:13 or give a new interpretation,
06:15 or make a change,
06:17 because the one who decides,
06:19 the one who decides on the 7th law,
06:22 the justice system in our country,
06:24 is us, as the parliament.
06:26 That's why here,
06:27 the constitution is 148.
06:30 If we want to get 148,
06:32 I'm a reformist, I want to do everything.
06:35 Suddenly, 148, then 147.
06:38 How am I going to get it?
06:40 Tomorrow, someone will be invited,
06:41 to love each other, 7, 8, 9, 10.
06:44 How can we be a reformist,
06:47 if the parliament is unstable,
06:49 because the government can't make changes to the constitution?
06:52 I don't know, maybe my friend over there,
06:54 my brother, number one,
06:55 my brother, number two,
06:56 will give a commitment.
06:57 We will give consent
06:59 to change the constitution.
07:01 That's what he said, it's possible.
07:02 But I don't know if it's possible or not.
07:04 But to do justice, we need to do justice.
07:06 Third,
07:07 the one you asked me,
07:08 will the minister's representative answer?
07:11 Your body is here.
07:14 I'm not a representative,
07:15 he did good, so he answered.
07:17 Tomorrow, God willing,
07:18 2.5 to 3.5.
07:20 So those questions,
07:21 maybe you can ask.
07:22 But the commitment from us,
07:24 the government today,
07:25 we will determine,
07:27 that we need to be fair.
07:29 So that we can do this study.
07:31 And I believe that,
07:32 in our power,
07:34 we have my colleagues,
07:35 Mr. Ram Kapal Singh,
07:36 Mr. William Leong from Selayang,
07:39 Mr. Sani Izvaren,
07:41 Reyan from Jurutong,
07:44 Dato' Wira Masih Menyati
07:46 from Masjid Tanah,
07:48 then we have with us
07:50 Mr. Mohamad Zulkifli,
07:52 from Besut,
07:53 and also representatives from the State Department,
07:56 from the Legislative Yuan,
07:58 from the Suranjaya,
07:59 the Ministry of Justice and Law,
08:01 SPKP,
08:03 Ministry of Finance,
08:05 Ministry of Finance and Ministry of Public Services.
08:07 Mr. Speaker,
08:09 if we succeed in making a move
08:11 to the Parliamentary Services Act,
08:13 we also need 2/3 votes from the parliament.
08:18 But the implementation,
08:20 Mr. Speaker,
08:23 will take time,
08:25 between 2 to 3 years.
08:27 It means all the laws,
08:29 the move to the government institutions,
08:32 at this high level,
08:33 will take time.
08:34 So,
08:35 wait a minute,
08:37 I will try my best
08:40 to give a written answer,
08:42 but I want to clarify here,
08:43 as I said,
08:45 we are a government,
08:46 our hashtag is #WeWalkTheTalk.
08:48 We are not #WeDontTalk
08:51 and #WeDontWalk.
08:52 With that,
08:53 I thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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