Chairman PTI vs Nawaz Sharif: Awam Kis Kay Sath Hai? - Experts' Analysis - video Dailymotion

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00:00 Assalam-o-Alaikum, thank you for your time.

00:02 Mr. Rauf, please tell us, has Nawaz Sharif officially laid the foundation for his statement?

00:08 Once again, this name will be politicized on him.

00:12 And in a way, if you see, this narrative, this narrative is perhaps of PTI,

00:18 but that narrative, anti-establishment, and now Mr. Mian has taken this narrative and has come to the fore.

00:25 There is no need to take Mr. Mian's narratives too seriously.

00:30 I remember in 2006-2007-2008, I, Arshad Sharif, our friend, and many others,

00:35 we were doing reporting in London, and Mr. Mian, exactly,

00:38 if you see his clips, his reports from the Don, the news,

00:43 if you read his reports, you will find that he is repeating himself,

00:48 there is no difference between a comma and a full stop.

00:50 Just change the name and character, if you keep that in mind.

00:54 Do you know what was his slogan?

00:56 His narrative that he had to come and give against Jana Musharraf,

00:59 because he was sitting there, he said, we will come and make a commission on Kargil.

01:03 At that time, he had to punish the Kargil journalists.

01:06 He used to take 3-4 names at that time too.

01:08 I remember 2-3, if I forget, you remind me.

01:11 One says, Jana Musharraf had climbed Kargil, he had done a lot of wrong,

01:15 which I think was really wrong, 3,000 of our soldiers were martyred.

01:18 Totally, a bogus kind of operation.

01:20 He came in 2013 on the basis of Kargil inquiry, had to give article 6.

01:24 Again, I think there were many Zias, Javed Ahsan, the commanders,

01:29 and at that time, your military command, your higher command,

01:31 the other core commanders did not even know, your Fajaya,

01:34 even Naval did not know that you have climbed Kargil

01:36 and you had killed 3,000 of our soldiers there.

01:39 So at that time, his narrative was that after reaching Pakistan,

01:42 we have to give the Kargil journalists,

01:45 who were responsible for this, the journalists,

01:48 because of whom our soldiers were martyred,

01:50 our relationship with India was ruined, peace was derailed,

01:52 and I was put in jail, that we will come and trial them.

01:55 And he stayed here for 4 years, if you remember,

01:58 almost, not once the notification of the Judicial Commission was issued here.

02:02 What was the reason?

02:03 That you had to scare and suppress the establishment at that time.

02:06 This is our leadership here, understand one thing,

02:09 that the way you will suppress the establishment,

02:11 you will bully them, it has happened in the past.

02:13 So they will bring you to power.

02:15 For example, Nawaz Sharif hit them,

02:17 at that time, Musharraf and his company,

02:19 they knew that Janakiani and his company,

02:21 their group is at a distance from Musharraf,

02:24 so they were suiting the establishment,

02:26 and the establishment, to avoid them,

02:28 to avoid their bullying, took them to power.

02:30 Okay, the same thing, they understood Khan sahab.

02:32 Khan sahab will have this indignation, this indignation.

02:35 No, no, no, they later understood that if you hit,

02:38 the way Khan sahab has hit the establishment,

02:40 Pakistan's army, their things,

02:42 till date, no one has done in Pakistan history,

02:44 like, pick up the 70-ban,

02:45 after that, if you pick up the Palochistan,

02:47 if you pick up the FATA,

02:49 pick up the drone, they also hit.

02:51 Now, the same,

02:53 our establishment, they brought Khan sahab to power,

02:55 they also gave them power.

02:57 After this, they have understood that if you want to take space,

03:00 then you have to hit the establishment somewhere.

03:03 Okay, now what space are you trying to take, Mian sahab?

03:05 The problem is this, this is the problem.

03:07 So, when you come here and tell the establishment,

03:10 that I am the old Nawaz Sharif,

03:12 the first problem will start from there,

03:14 the establishment will say,

03:15 it means, as soon as the government is formed,

03:17 the first target will be the establishment again.

03:19 Will the establishment let General Bajwa stand in the queue again?

03:22 Before this, General Musharraf sahab,

03:24 you will remember, he had to go to court.

03:26 He had reached the hospital.

03:27 He had reached the hospital,

03:29 but the route was of the airport.

03:31 The route was of the airport.

03:33 And this thing, later, the people who managed all that,

03:37 they said, it was a surprise for us too,

03:38 that he had to come to the airport, the plane was standing,

03:40 he had to go out of Pakistan.

03:42 But then for some reason, he went to the hospital.

03:45 See, they have to make statements.

03:47 There is something that has to be sold in the market.

03:50 In such a precarious situation, he is coming back.

03:52 That is, as soon as he comes,

03:53 first of all, they have to put him in the police van,

03:55 that he is a sconder, a convict,

03:57 he has to be transferred directly to jail,

03:58 and the rest, unless he gets bail.

04:00 He has to be presented in court,

04:02 there is no other option.

04:03 He can get a breather for a day or two.

04:05 But still, the preparations are being made for the address from Minar-e-Pakistan,

04:08 from the gatherings,

04:09 and preparations for a big welcome are being made.

04:12 In the midst of all this,

04:13 taking the names of General Bajwa, General Faiz,

04:15 Honorable Judges, and saying that

04:17 this will be settled.

04:19 Look,

04:21 is he playing with fire?

04:23 I, for now, this is,

04:25 look, they need statements.

04:27 He can come back and say,

04:28 he can't talk about Kargil,

04:30 the government of the Muslim community has been there for 16 months,

04:32 so he will do Kargil, it is not a selling point.

04:34 He must have sat down in London and thought,

04:35 what can we do to sell this?

04:38 Or what will we do based on this in the Jalsas?

04:41 The speech will be that,

04:43 you fired me in 2016-17,

04:45 at that time, what were the statistics of Pakistan?

04:47 These people are responsible,

04:48 these 5 people are responsible,

04:49 and the establishment will hit more than that.

04:51 We tried this before,

04:53 but nothing happened.

04:54 The question will be asked,

04:55 sir, we will deal with this,

04:57 they sent you out of Pakistan,

04:58 when they...

04:59 You gave them an extension.

05:01 You gave them an extension.

05:04 And then you kept quiet for 16 months.

05:06 When the negotiations were done,

05:07 at that time,

05:08 Mian sir said,

05:09 the negotiations will not be with any intermediary,

05:11 I will do the negotiations directly,

05:12 when the negotiations with them started after 2018.

05:15 So, you did all this,

05:17 look, I can understand that if you,

05:19 are fighting a fight,

05:23 in which you feel that the establishment is against you,

05:26 I have to push back that,

05:28 and to push back that,

05:29 I need anti-establishment statements,

05:31 like Imran Khan did.

05:32 Like Nawaz Sharif did,

05:33 when he said,

05:34 why did you send me out,

05:35 give respect to the vote.

05:36 What happened was,

05:37 Nawaz Sharif was sent out,

05:38 he made anti-establishment statements,

05:40 and the time was right for that.

05:42 Imran Khan sir had the right time,

05:43 because he was sent out by the establishment,

05:45 now they had to put the establishment on their back foot,

05:47 to get their point accepted,

05:49 which did not happen,

05:50 but that time...

05:51 These statements are not of time.

05:52 I understand that timing.

05:53 I understand this timing.

05:54 The statements are right.

05:55 The statements will be sold.

05:56 The statements are good,

05:57 the statements will work,

05:58 the statements will work in Punjab too,

05:59 but to what extent will it work,

06:00 that is another issue,

06:01 but how will the establishment react to this?

06:04 Will the establishment think,

06:06 now we are talking about the current situation in Pakistan,

06:09 I think that the establishment should not have any role in politics,

06:12 but it does.

06:13 The establishment should not have any role in the maneuvering of elections,

06:16 but it does.

06:17 The level playing field that is being discussed here,

06:19 what is being discussed?

06:20 That Mr. Mian is being given freebies,

06:21 the rest of the people have been handcuffed,

06:23 some have been handcuffed and put in jail.

06:25 In this situation,

06:26 do they have permission or will they be allowed to be in my hands?

06:30 And can they be in this situation?

06:32 But, but,

06:33 Rauh sahib,

06:34 on 31st July 2023,

06:35 Khawaja Asif came on record and said that

06:37 the strictest instructions have come from Mr. Mian,

06:39 that Chief of Army Staff,

06:40 Mr. Bajwa will be given a three-year extension,

06:42 and then the whole Muslim League,

06:44 the whole Muslim League,

06:45 had voted.

06:46 So, tell me this,

06:47 and then before leaving,

06:48 we just showed in the beginning,

06:50 Mr. Shibash Harid also thanked Mr. Bajwa.

06:52 He is still thanking him.

06:54 Now, he is saying that

06:55 he will not leave him.

06:56 Mr. Mian is saying,

06:57 Mr. Mian is thanking him.

06:59 What is happening?

07:00 Kashif was saying that

07:01 the statement will be sold.

07:03 I have a little different opinion.

07:05 It is being sold.

07:06 Now, it is being sold.

07:07 Whether it will be sold or not,

07:08 that time will come.

07:09 But I agree, I understand.

07:10 I have a little different opinion on that.

07:11 Mr. Khan's statement was sold because

07:13 he was against the serving establishment.

07:15 The serving generals,

07:16 whether it was Mr. Bajwa or the people who were coming later,

07:19 he was hitting them,

07:20 targeting them,

07:21 who were sitting in the service.

07:22 Hitting and targeting people sitting in the service

07:24 fascinates people,

07:25 it fascinates voters,

07:26 it is a macho style,

07:27 it is heroism,

07:28 wow, wow,

07:29 you are great,

07:30 you have been found,

07:31 you have not left the serving people,

07:32 whatever.

07:33 The statements that Mr. Mian is bringing here,

07:34 are against the retired people,

07:35 who are not already in the market,

07:36 who cannot answer,

07:37 cannot hit back.

07:38 Therefore, the dead man in our country,

07:40 is beating the dead horse,

07:42 is coming and doing.

07:43 No, no, this is right.

07:44 I am talking about his statement.

07:45 I understand,

07:46 but what policy is this,

07:47 that when you are suited,

07:48 you do not touch that dead horse,

07:50 you do not touch the dead horse,

07:51 you give extension also,

07:52 and when you are suited,

07:53 then you come back.

07:54 These are interest based,

07:55 you and me,

07:56 sorry,

07:57 we three know,

07:58 why it was done,

07:59 which people did it.

08:00 Boss,

08:01 Mr. Shabashree has praised him for 16 months,

08:02 Mr. Mariam Sahiba has avoided his questions,

08:03 by saying no comment.

08:04 Before that,

08:05 he has given a speech in Gujranwala for 3.5 years,

08:06 and has done a complete chat sheet,

08:07 and now after 16 months,

08:08 he is again doing a chat sheet.

08:09 The reason was that,

08:10 no one has any support in politics,

08:11 we are all together,

08:12 even the sisters do not have support,

08:13 you are saying that,

08:14 General Bajwa and Nawaz Sharif,

08:15 if they had made a deal,

08:16 that I will vote for you for 3 years,

08:17 and I will send you out of jail,

08:18 then you will be treated like this,

08:19 for the rest of your life,

08:20 you will be treated like this.

08:21 This is not how it is treated.

08:22 It is interest based,

08:23 there are no free lunches,

08:24 they took 3 years,

08:25 and they sent them out of jail,

08:26 so in this,

08:27 they are saying,

08:28 there is no favour,

08:29 it was equal,

08:30 50-50,

08:31 you took benefit,

08:32 they took benefit,

08:33 both of them,

08:34 again,

08:35 both are equal in that,

08:36 so it is not a favour,

08:37 it is a favour,

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