Irshad Bhatti's analysis on PM Kakar's statement regarding PTI Chief

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00:00 Bhatti sahab, I will start with you.

00:02 Is the shocking statement of PM Kakar about PTI or the reaction of PTI is more shocking?

00:10 Both are not shocking. Both are fine in their own places.

00:14 PTI should have given the same reaction.

00:17 And PTI gave the same reaction.

00:21 And the statement of the Minister of Defence was based on the current situation.

00:26 Is Imran Khan the most popular politician in Pakistan?

00:31 Yes, he is.

00:33 Is his vote bank more than others?

00:36 Yes, it is.

00:37 In the last elections, we will know about it in the next election.

00:43 But in the last elections, he defeated the Muslim League in their home.

00:47 Yes, it is.

00:49 But can Imran Khan take part in the elections?

00:53 No, he cannot.

00:54 It seems so till now.

00:56 Why? Because he is a non-electoral.

00:58 In the Tosha Khana case, he was sentenced to death.

01:01 But he is a non-electoral.

01:03 He will remain a non-electoral until his sentence is over.

01:07 After this, there is the Cipher case.

01:09 In Cipher, there are three cases.

01:12 I have told you many times that it is a very serious case.

01:15 First, it is a case under the Official Secret Act 1923, and the sub-shake of 5, 9 and 34.

01:30 It is a serious case.

01:32 Second, Imran Khan has made an audio of his own, "Let's play on it"

01:38 with Azam Khan when he was Prime Minister.

01:42 Third, Azam Khan, who was the central figure in this case,

01:46 and the Iqbali statement that has come out against him,

01:49 is a very serious case.

01:50 After this, there is the 9th of May case.

01:54 I don't think that Imran Khan will be able to take part in this election

01:58 if he is in January, February, March or April.

02:03 So, Imran Khan will not be able to take part as a candidate in this election.

02:10 I don't think that if something happens tomorrow...

02:13 You have gone beyond January, Bhatti Sahib.

02:15 People were happy that they have come to know that it is the last week.

02:19 If they are not getting a date, you went to April.

02:22 Yes, yes. I will come to that too.

02:24 I don't think that he will be able to take part as a candidate.

02:29 I also think that it is difficult that he will be out of jail and will be able to take part in the election.

02:34 So, the Justice Movement will have to fight the election without him.

02:39 But, here, it should be said that everyone should get a level playing field.

02:45 All the candidates should get a complete opportunity.

02:50 And I am in support from the first day that whoever has done 9th of May,

02:54 should be punished.

02:56 Not a single criminal should be spared and not a single innocent should be punished.

03:01 But, apart from this, the rest of the Justice Movement, as a community...

03:05 There are not just 5-7 politicians, but 10-20 politicians.

03:10 There are hundreds of politicians.

03:12 There are not just 8-10,000 protesters who came out on 9th of May.

03:16 There are not just 1.5...

03:19 Shah Mahmood Qureshi is also in jail.

03:21 If we look at the statement of the Prime Minister, he is also saying that

03:24 the prisoners, the illegal immigrants, they can go without them.

03:30 What was the need of this statement?

03:32 He should have said that they will be able to participate in the elections

03:35 according to the legal status.

03:37 He should have said that they will be eligible.

03:39 Yes, you are absolutely right.

03:41 He should have said that.

03:43 And the Minister of State or the Government should not even discuss these issues.

03:48 And there should not be any policy statement on these issues.

03:52 But, since the Government of Punjab and KP is a fully-run Government,

03:56 it has been almost a year, that is why this statement is made.

04:00 You said that the elections are scheduled for January.

04:04 It is possible that the elections will be held in January.

04:07 But, I feel that the numbers are still 50-50.

04:10 They can go ahead.

04:12 And the third thing is that...

04:15 What is it called?

04:17 Tehreek-e-Insaf.

04:19 Tehreek-e-Insaf is a big Jamaat.

04:21 It has a vote bank of 2.25 crore.

04:23 And if Tehreek-e-Insaf gets a chance, it can give a surprise.

04:27 But, what Anwar-ul-Akkad has said,

04:30 they are saying right in the present situation.

04:33 Mr. Raza Rumi, I will come to you.

04:37 If you want to comment on this,

04:39 whether the Minister needed this statement or not.

04:41 Along with that, I would like to say that

04:43 there are big statements coming from Faisal Wada for the last 2-3 days.

04:46 Since Nawaz Sharif has said that there was a conspiracy with him,

04:50 he wants to settle his debts.

04:52 Even today, Faisal Wada was discussing this.

04:55 In fact, he has said many more things.

04:57 Let's listen to that and then I will ask you.

04:59 So, Mr. Raza Rumi, tell us,

05:01 this rejection that is coming,

05:03 do you think that these statements were given at a very early time?

05:06 First, it should have been found out what the legal option is.

05:09 Whether he should come and receive them from the airport

05:12 or he should hold a Jalsa at Minare-e-Pakistan.

05:14 All these things, by telling all of them together,

05:17 the party is facing confusion.

05:19 Do you agree with this?

05:21 You have raised many points in your question.

05:26 So, I will try to answer each one of them.

05:30 First, the thing is that the Minister should not be given any policy statements.

05:36 This is not his mandate.

05:38 His mandate is very clear that the government should run day to day

05:42 until the elections are held.

05:44 And now, according to the law and the constitution,

05:48 it is the job of the Election Commission to talk about the elections,

05:52 which parties will be hopeful and which will not.

05:56 And you have discussed it very easily that Mr. Imran Khan is still not here.

06:01 And if the situation changes tomorrow, he will definitely be able to take part.

06:07 As far as Nia Dawah Sharif is concerned,

06:11 his arrival in Pakistan has been confirmed to a large extent.

06:20 And he is probably seeing that his legal issues will be resolved as soon as he arrives.

06:29 Because the Minare-e-Pakistan Jalsa and his welcome,

06:34 I think he is looking at all of this, which has been reported in the media.

06:39 The main reason is that he will have to come and get a formal bail.

06:45 He will have to appear before the law.

06:48 And then he will be active in his political activities.

06:53 So far it seems so, but now you know that he has to do politics too.

06:58 And I agree to a large extent with Mr. Bata that people are very angry.

07:05 The old parties, especially the ones that have been dependent on the government's economy,

07:11 the inflation that people are facing at the moment,

07:14 their anger and sadness will come out in the election.

07:17 And a lot of his, as they say, Malwa,

07:22 he will also gag on Nawaz Sharif and his party.

07:25 Because Nawaz Sharif was the Prime Minister in the 1970s.

07:29 And despite his presence, the record inflation in Pakistan at the moment,

07:34 the common man is suffering from it.

07:36 All these things we do, legal complications, i.e.

07:40 Who will be in the election or not?

07:43 The biggest problem of a common man is unemployment and inflation.

07:47 And the new figures that have come are even more dangerous.

07:51 In the last one and a half years, there has been an increase in poverty in Pakistan.

07:56 12 to 14 million people have fallen below the poverty line.

08:00 And 40% of the population is living in poverty.

08:04 These are the world's largest courts.

08:06 And this is what I read yesterday.

08:08 And this is the news.

08:10 And the biggest problem should be for our state too.

08:14 And for all political parties too.

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