CALEB PLANTS REVEALS WHY HE SLAPPED JERMALL CHARLO
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00:00 Now tuned into me me me me me me million dollars worth of boxing. Listen, man. We knew boxing promoters
00:05 This is our new fighter right here, man. We got him. We got a boots
00:08 We got all the for all the fighters under our promotional company. We doing it man PBC. Listen, we coming for you
00:13 I'm just letting it be known right now
00:15 They used to call me heavy hands when I see you to get a name in this day, you know me back in
00:26 That's a good name for me, you know, I mean you get it
00:29 You don't hurt nothing no, no, no, so so, you know, you know, we consider feathered hands in this
00:38 You know who would have been considered feather hands though Pauly Malignaggi
00:46 Yeah, yeah
00:49 feather hands
00:51 Wow
00:53 Pauly would knock me out. He would he would have gave me a definitely beat you
00:57 Paulie probably gave me a
01:00 Retire. Yeah, he'd do commentary right now
01:03 Firefly out like step to retire watch the fighters. Even when you start your career off. He was fighting cab drivers. He wasn't knocking them
01:11 Let me know when we somewhere and I see him I'm a step to him like what's up, what we doing?
01:18 No, I wouldn't do that feather hands are put
01:20 Hands ain't doing nothing. Yes, he would
01:23 You know was crazy sweet hands. They say you got a fit, you know
01:28 If I jump in the ring with you as a 59% chance that you might put me to sleep
01:31 But if I could run the other percentage probably about a hundred and fifty nine
01:37 It's like, you know, so I'm like damn I mean bad
01:41 But what about you and him in the making? Oh, no, he's done. I'm a tappy mom put him in a guillotine
01:47 13 black time world champion in kickboxing
01:50 Who was your teacher my daddy, oh, yeah, I know him so I I can't fight any fighters if I know they coach and they train
01:59 Us that's a martial art. That's the rules of martial arts. I can't do that. Give that's you know
02:04 I mean, that's like it's like a cold every shit. No like anybody know karate Earl Bruce Lee any connection
02:09 The Gracie degree you'll get him out of it. Oh, I just said he a guillotine you
02:17 He can't even spell guillotine
02:19 He wasn't me never
02:21 Hold on a minute a dojo with the Gracie's like how would you even challenge my my history of the game?
02:30 I've been around with the Gracie's in the Bell Dojo
02:32 You talk about Tanya and Keisha now, I'm starting to see things I've been doing my own personal research and I'm starting to realize with boxing
02:45 I
02:47 Everybody's kid to take it. L. It's like nobody want to go in there. Just fight the fight
02:50 Everybody ducking everybody acting like it's about money. I
02:54 Want to fight is like that's like I said, that's the new duck. Yeah, I glaze about the purse
02:58 Oh, they're not giving me enough of why I'm not like what is your real feel about boxing in the sport?
03:02 Like what is going on?
03:04 Well, I mean, I feel like there's been a lot of that but it does seem you know here recently
03:08 there's been a bit of a shift in boxing and
03:11 You know, I pride myself on not being one of those guys who's ever ducked any smoke or ducked any big fighter
03:16 That's why you know
03:17 you see me I fought people like Canelo then Anthony Durell back-to-back and then David Benavidez right after that and
03:23 You know, I got four or five former or current world champions on my resume. So
03:28 I'm all in the business, you know, the legacy fights are the money fights. So
03:33 I'm trying to get it in while I can because you know, obviously boxing is a short window and
03:40 Like I said, my dad's always preached like hey the money fights are the legacy fight
03:43 So, you know, you can get both at the same time chasing the right fights. Is anybody you looking for out here?
03:48 I'm looking to fight Charlo next. That's the fight that I want and
03:53 You know, I know he's been out for a minute if he wants to get a tune-up that's perfectly fine with me but
04:00 By now, it's all over Jamil Jamal Jamal Jamal Jamal, you know Jamal he's moving up
04:07 Yeah, you know 54 to 168 to fight Canelo. Yeah, Jamal he fights at 160 and he's about to move up to 168
04:13 Mm-hmm, and you know, we need to make it happen. Obviously, you know, we had a disagreement recently that um
04:19 how did you figure it out, but uh
04:21 That would be a big fight for the fans. I know a lot of people want to see it and that's why I want that's
04:26 Why I'm on next. Hmm. Well
04:28 You know like I know you right and I know you know
04:33 you see things on the internet and you can never go off the internet because
04:37 That's only a small portion of something to happen. I know your temperament so you more of a laid-back
04:44 Smoo, I'm just you know, don't with me, but if you do with me
04:49 Like so I I know that something had to happen for you to react like that
04:57 Because I know you so and when I was watching I was like something happened must have been crazy for him to react like that
05:04 Yeah, yeah, I mean
05:06 Basically we was uh at the bud
05:10 Spence wins behind the stage, you know me and my wife JP just catching up with everybody and you know
05:17 Just saying what's up to Steven Espinosa and all those people. I see Jamal
05:21 He's like sent off the side just staring at me, but it's like a blank stare
05:25 I'm like, you know, what does this do when he walks up? He's like man. Why don't you put me?
05:29 Why don't you put me? I'm like what? What do you mean? He's like, yeah, man. Why don't you put me with you?
05:34 I look up to you man
05:35 I look up to you and I'm like
05:37 I just felt like it was weird to say I didn't feel like Jamal would
05:40 Say something like that. Like oh man, I look up to you. I'm like no, I'm in a song, you know, we're cool
05:45 it's just you know, sometimes you're hot sometimes you're cold like
05:49 You'll literally come up to me one time and tell me you love me and then the next time
05:54 I see you on an interview you'll be
05:56 You'll be saying like, you know
05:58 I'll beat the shit out of Caleb and send him back to Tennessee and this and that so I really don't know how to take
06:02 You so I just keep my distance. He's like no, I'm in off with you with you and Jordi. I'm like Jordi
06:06 Her name is Jordan. My wife's name is Jordan. I'm Jordi. He's like see now you're being cold
06:12 I'm like no bro. Don't call my wife something like that. You don't need a pet name
06:22 Stank
06:24 Desi I started trends taking shots
06:32 Getting and I'm like nah bro, no and he starts looking up he's saying he's like, you know what you're right, bro
06:39 I wouldn't want somebody calling my wife something like that and he's like do you want to fight?
06:43 I'm like, yeah, I want to fight. Of course. I want to fight. He's like cuz I don't even want to fight
06:47 I'm like look, I know you got going on
06:49 you know, I know you get that cleaned up and you know, we can make something happen and
06:53 He's like give me a hot sentence cold sentence hot sentence cold sentence
06:58 It's kind of hard to follow me and then he asked me again. Do you want to fight? Cuz I'll fight and I'm like
07:03 Yeah, of course. I want to fight. He's like it won't even be a good fight
07:06 I'm like, why not? He said cuz I'll beat the shit out of you. I'm like
07:09 And he starts getting frustrated he reached up and pulls the hair on my chin wait what yeah
07:18 I'm like your face. Yeah, pull the chin hair on my chin
07:21 Kind of hard to and I kind of like pushed him off me and people are you know?
07:26 Starting to hear us and kind of starting to get in between us. I'm like, bro. Don't ever do that again
07:30 Like what is your problem? Why would you why would you do that? Yeah
07:33 And he starts calling me a white boy like look at him y'all acting just like a white boy
07:39 Look at him getting scared just like a white boy would
07:42 Getting so just like a white boy would and he done it again
07:46 And then he pulled the hair on my chin again, but a little harder
07:48 And you know sending a room full all my boxing peers and it's like
07:59 You know
08:00 You really put my back against the wall when you do something like that
08:03 So, you know, I had to handle my business and do what I did and y'all seen the video
08:07 But um, honestly that was the second time I smacked him the the time I smacked him
08:13 It was right before the person started recording
08:15 I guess they see me smack him once and they they pulled out their phone start recording and that's just when I caught on the
08:19 second time but I
08:21 Don't know what this problem was, you know why he was doing that and I just told you you know
08:25 You know to quit on me and I guess he didn't think I was being serious. So damn
08:30 You know
08:32 Unfortunate, but you know, you can't just keep you can't just keep grabbing another man's face
08:37 Hey, I'm sure he's
08:41 Grab a chin twice and slap you
08:43 Didn't not smack you after the first time and you do it again, it's either
08:49 One you just aren't thinking straight or two
08:52 You don't think I'm gonna do anything, you know, you think there's like no repercussions and to me
08:58 that's what a bully is somebody who picks on somebody that they think ain't gonna do anything back, but
09:02 You know, I can't do that. I can't I know Jamal was there Jamal was there arrow was there
09:09 He knows a lot of Texas dudes around when I done it, but I do they get beat up by
09:14 you know every Texas guy on the building then have to go home and you know try to sleep at night or
09:20 Look at my wife and by a you know, I'll protect this
09:23 I'll stand up for us, you know, and she'll probably believe it but am I gonna believe it?
09:28 You know, that's what's important is. No, you know, you can't have somebody out there
09:32 Chastising you like that. Yeah, it's deep
09:36 Yeah, well listen man. I hope y'all could really get in the ring and make some money off of him
09:40 That's you know what I mean?
09:41 Because at the end of the day y'all get paid to fight in the ring the ring
09:46 So I hope that you know
09:49 You said that's the fight you want. I hope that's the fight that Jamal won. Oh, yeah
09:55 I'm you check my resume people know that I'm not ducking any big fight. No one thing about you
10:00 That ain't never been on you. Yeah, that's never been on your jacket. We can make that happen next
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11:20 You got two losses which in this day and time that's really like that's nothing compared to some of the greatest fighters
11:26 They have more they have way more losses in that and you still run around you got your respect
11:31 You still got a strong name out here
11:33 You know me is like what is it in boxing now where everybody want to try to emulate this whole undefeated thing that Floyd did I?
11:40 Think just not seeing things clearly, you know all the greats, you know took losses rates
11:47 You know Roberto Duran is knocked out by Tommy earns, you know
11:51 Muhammad Ali Jones, you know, if you go down the list all those guys have lost a key. Oh, yeah, and so
11:58 While at the end of the day, you know
12:00 It'd be nice to be undefeated and never lose and never take a hard shot never get dropped
12:04 You know if you continue to step up and fight the best, you know at some point you may come up short
12:09 You know, that's what happens when the best fight the best
12:11 But you know
12:12 You just got to get better and go back to the gym go back to the drawing board get with your team and you know
12:17 Clean things up, but you know, it'd be hard for me to say on why?
12:21 Why the rest of the world or the why the rest of the boxers, you know, some of them don't see it that way
12:26 You know, that's a question for them. But like my dad always said, you know legacy fights are the money fights. So that's what we want
12:32 That's what it's about. So how old was you when you got in the box? I
12:36 Started like training competitively when I was nine and when I first started I just started I was kickboxing and it's just like so you
12:44 Won't move when you to a while a year
12:48 I was about like maybe about the same time was about like seven eight when me and Earl got together
12:52 I started training in the park world karate, Earl, but go it
12:56 So like I was saying, um
12:58 He's a boy. You don't know. I got 13 black belts. I
13:01 Know you had about 13 black eyes in your life. That's part of the game. That's a part of this
13:08 That's a part of the game
13:10 We go with his intent it is so much
13:14 I've been retired out the game for a while now
13:17 Yes, I started
13:20 Just kickboxing off at first and it's like it's called full contact rules
13:24 It's really just like an amateur boxing, but you had to throw like six kicks above the waist around no clinching
13:29 No knees, no elbows. No nothing like that
13:31 It's really just like amateur boxing and I have five world titles in that non-national titles and fought in Trinidad
13:38 And Tobago fought went to Italy with Team USA
13:42 Some other places too and then I got a little bit older
13:45 I really just wanted to box but I'll be boxing and kickboxing simultaneously like one weekend
13:49 My dad dropped me, you know to Virginia Beach the next you know weekend or two later
13:53 We go to Alabama to box a couple weekends later
13:56 We would go somewhere else to kickbox and I was just doing both at the same time
13:59 And then once I got to 17, I was like man, I really don't want to kickbox no more
14:03 I just there's no money in it. That's all I want to do
14:05 I don't want to have a you know, I know the job or do anything like that
14:08 So I really just want to box and then I went to the USA Nationals at the Olympic Training Center in Colorado
14:13 And ranked third in the nation
14:16 Top four make Team USA and ever since then I really then the next year I came back
14:20 I won the Golden Glove Nationals made the Olympic trials
14:22 became Olympic alternate went to London in 2012 and
14:26 then I turned pro in 2014 and
14:29 Going when when put it for the two losses you got in boxing
14:35 What is that was it ever a moment in the fights where you say damn this ain't going right?
14:40 um, I
14:43 mean
14:45 the thing like the highest level is
14:47 Sometimes there's a lot of close rounds. So that's one thing that separates people from the top is
14:53 You know when you know, you got the round in the bag
14:56 It's easy to stay relaxed and go back to the corner and feel good
14:59 But when you win when the round is almost like dead even you go back you like man
15:03 I think I won but I know it was close and you keep having to do that round after round
15:06 you know, sometimes it's hard to mentally stay locked in and focused and so I
15:11 Just I knew that a lot of those rounds were close, but or some may have got away from me
15:17 But I mean both of those that I lost one was like seven to five and then with Canelo, you know
15:22 I got stopped in 11th, but it's like six or four up until that point
15:25 So all of them were were pretty close. It wasn't just
15:29 You know some whitewash or something like that where I'm getting whooped. I don't feel it
15:33 I don't know that's not gonna happen. Yeah, that's good. Now. How's your training regimen like you train?
15:39 How often do you train I train year-round year-round six days a week?
15:44 Spar year-round run year-round I keep my weight and check year-round and
15:51 You know, that's the way to do it
15:53 If you want to you know be at the highest level this is something that you can't just do part-time or most of the year
15:58 you know, there's something you really got to dedicate your life to and
16:02 That's something you know, I'm proud to say that I do I don't drink I don't smoke
16:05 I don't party, you know
16:07 All I do really is just boxing training go home be daddy with my little girl and my wife and that's it
16:13 How was it for you coming up in Tennessee, man?
16:15 You know where I'm from there are no boxing gyms this way on the middle of the wood, you know
16:20 It's a real country and trail apart. Yeah ours didn't come with the party. It was just a trailer just a trail
16:26 You just pulled it up parked it up. Okay, but um
16:30 So we had to travel to downtown Nashville to get sparring and training and you know
16:35 my daddy and my grandpa put a little money together to open up a gym close to where we was at and
16:40 It didn't even have like any mats on the floor. It's just like a white tile. It was like a little
16:45 Maybe like two of these rooms and it was like white tile floor and we just put tape on the ground
16:51 In the shape of a square and that's when we spar we were just standing around and hold hands
16:56 there's like one heavy bag in the um in the corner, you couldn't even work all the way around him, but
17:01 You know when you really want something you don't really need like all the special stuff all the latest training gear, but um
17:08 It was cool. Not really a lot of people
17:11 I don't think believed in it because there were no boxers where I'm from
17:13 So I don't really think that they seen the vision but they see it now for sure
17:18 So like like your father I see you see your father a lot. Mm-hmm. Your father was really important to you
17:24 Yeah, he believed in it before you yeah, he did me and my daddy were you know, anyone who knows us knows?
17:30 We're like really close. I've been I've been in his back pocket for the most part since I was since I came in so
17:35 He believed in it from the get-go
17:38 he believed in it and that gave me a lot of confidence because my dad he was a fighter when he was younger and
17:42 For him to have that belief in me and put as much as he did driving all the way to Chicago
17:48 Driving all the way to Colorado Springs driving all the way to Florida just driving me everywhere in the car, you know
17:54 To make these tournaments and stuff, you know, it really gave me the confidence to like man
17:59 I if he believes in me, you know, I know this thing's gonna work out
18:02 And so he's given me a lot of good guidance over the years if in the ring out of the ring
18:09 You know
18:10 I'm blessed to have a daddy like him for sure
18:13 Gil had aspirations to be like your father and travel all around with his son, but little cuz kept getting knocked out
18:18 Oh, yeah. Yeah, he kept getting knocked out. He was one of them coaches that never he was his coat
18:23 He was his trainer slash fire and it just didn't work. I think he had the wrong train. I wasn't you
18:28 I was hearing about it, man. I was like damn cuz you know, he's
18:30 Nationals, I said what's nationals?
18:33 Locals some of the Nationals man ain't even making it to the locals
18:38 Cuz we talked no, I'm just saying that that's how I was. He just kept getting knocked out
18:43 He cuz that's why I'm like damn is that Gil wanted to be that
18:45 You try
18:49 My son gonna knock you out like that puts
18:52 but
18:54 You know, it was a good one. It was Jim Rick. Let me ask you a question fighting Canelo, right? Yeah
19:01 What did he do
19:05 like
19:07 What did Canelo do good that you was like?
19:10 Okay, he might be a little better than what I thought
19:13 And what did he what did what was he?
19:16 He's you might have thought he was good at something. He was like, ah, you're not it's not what I think
19:22 You know what? I'm saying the flip sides of both things like what did he do?
19:25 Is it like his defense was it you know what I mean? What did he do? He was like, okay, this is a leak
19:30 Yeah, I mean, I think just overall just as experience level, you know, and obviously going into the fight
19:36 I knew how experienced he was but the amount of
19:39 you know
19:41 How big a part that play yeah, you know
19:44 That's something that you can't really make up for you got to go through the fire to get that experience
19:48 And that's something he's obviously done. And so I think just as his overall experience played a major key in that
19:54 You know, it was for undisputed for all four belts and you know, he had a big crowd
19:58 There's like 18 19 thousand people and I had like no maybe a thousand people in there room for me. So
20:05 I think just the crowd
20:07 Being able to manage the crowd and just the overall experience, but it's something I know I'm going to the absolutely
20:14 You feel me and I know you'll be better. Yeah, absolutely
20:16 You know coming back after that fight, you know, I fought former two-time world champion Anthony Darrell
20:22 Mm-hmm, and you know, I feel like that experience definitely help play a part in you know
20:26 How that fight went down getting a knockout?
20:28 2022 knockout of the year and you know a decent celebration after two so I
20:33 Think it played a big key. I feel like the David Benavidez fight. I
20:38 Feel like he was up early and then he came on
20:43 Yeah towards the end. Yeah, I think like at the end of the sixth round he knows it too. But um
20:48 He hit me with a left hook to the body like right before the right for the belt
20:52 I right on the liver and he heard me breathing kind of hard the bell rings like man
20:56 I heard you I heard you and
20:58 He started to pick it up from there. And then in the eighth round I caught a headbutt from him and
21:03 started to make it kind of hard to see so I started to clinch a little more and
21:07 You know some guys when they clinch that's a good place to rest and then some guys they pick up
21:12 The activity when you clinch him and he started to pick up the activity level when I would clinch him
21:17 It made things a little harder, but um still a close fight, you know, David
21:21 He's obviously a great fighter and that's why I wanted to fight him to begin with but I'd love to run it back
21:26 Absolutely. I would love to see y'all run it back to I will let us see a rematch with you on Canelo
21:31 Oh, yeah, that's the plan. That's what that's what I'm that's what I'm shooting for
21:34 you know try to get a go another good win under my belt with Jamal Charlo and
21:40 You know see where the cards you really want that Charlo fight. Yeah, I definitely want that fight. I definitely want that fight. Mm-hmm
21:47 but y'all know you you know, y'all like cuz you like I
21:50 Sense a little animosity. We like, you know, y'all like like y'all even like he pulled you here
21:56 It's like twice you I mean slap him twice y'all like no slap the slap is like
22:01 You actually up
22:04 No, we got we got a we got a rumble we got to make that happen and
22:10 so Jamal I
22:12 Like I like I like I love when when fighters come over
22:17 No, what are you keeping a lot of want to rumble you after you slapped him to whites?
22:21 Yeah, he got it want to rumble you after you slapped him. I mean
22:24 one would think
22:27 That's what I want. But you know, what's the problem? What's the paperwork who we got a call?
22:31 I mean, you don't gotta call me
22:34 Our man call email me how we gonna talk about this
22:38 Yeah, we definitely want to talk. Yeah, you know get Jamal on the phone get it done, man
22:42 We could see this in December, right? Oh, yeah. I'll be ready. I've been training. Oh, so and like I said, you know, I
22:50 That's all I do is train. So there is no drinking. No party and no none of that
22:55 This is this is what I do full-time. So if you want to make it happen, just you have to be ready
23:01 But what do you how do you who do you like it? Canelo in?
23:05 Other Charlo brother fight coming up
23:08 Not like but who do you see winning?
23:11 You know, I think it's hard to like bet against Canelo's experience level, especially at that level
23:17 but you know Jamal he's a he's a great fighter and he's under speeded himself at 154 and
23:23 he's the younger guy he's lighter so he may be able to move better and
23:29 What does have to see you know, it's definitely a style two different styles and it's a good stylistic matchup
23:35 And if he's able to take Canelo's power and be able to stay in at all 12 rounds, you know
23:40 he's he's definitely got his chances of getting his hand raised and
23:44 Actually speaking of Jamal. I heard recently that you know, he wasn't super fond. Oh what I had to do with this, uh,
23:51 You know the run the scuffle I got into with his brother. I think maybe he's been catching some heat
23:57 people thinking it's him and getting them to the fuse and
24:00 So but I honestly I've never had a problem with the Jamal, you know, he's always been super respectful
24:06 You know every time we've linked up every time we seen, you know
24:09 Mrs. Plant, you know respectful to my wife and so I never had an issue and don't have the issue with Jamal and you know
24:18 You know, I hope he does well on the 30th, you know, whatever whatever happens happens on the 30th
24:23 But uh, you know Jamal he's always been cool about me. So yeah, and he's a in Jamal was on a show
24:29 You know what? I mean? And the one thing that I like that he really expressed about himself was growth. Mm-hmm
24:35 You know what? I mean? He
24:37 he see who he was and then he understand who he is now and
24:42 He expressed that he's not, you know, really trying to go back to who he was
24:47 so you can express that he has seen a video from the past or when he was snapping on tank and
24:53 Adrian Broner and then he like now me we cool
24:57 Yeah, but the video still surfaced and my kids got to see the video and so, you know, it's all about growth man
25:05 Yeah, it seems like he had an understanding like, you know, damn even shit from way long ago
25:09 Can you come up to you? So, you know, you got to be mindful how you move in
25:14 Yeah, I seen that part and it does seem like you know, you know, there's definitely some growth there
25:18 So, you know hats off to him for that. So that's what's up, man
25:21 I'm proud of you man and keep growing and keep glowing man. Now when we talk about boxing, right? Who is your top five?
25:28 all time
25:30 Dead or alive. Yeah, dead or alive. Gotta be
25:33 In no order but Floyd
25:37 Roy Jones. Mm-hmm
25:40 James Tony nobody never see John
25:44 Terry Norris
25:48 And
25:50 No, you can't count you I just did man. Come on. Damn. Oh and you right out you won't tell me what he can't
25:56 I'm just on our show. You see that cheese? We're gonna do listen
26:00 He gonna tell him what he can do on our show and then he told him I do it. I want on your show
26:07 He said who?
26:09 I'm retired man. He's cool me a couple years ago. He's scuffling. That's cool
26:15 about
26:17 He's a that's right. It's not gonna work
26:19 Man, it always worked. I've been working since the unit. I'm not even gonna throw my belt
26:24 Yeah, first of all, listen, that's why we left the karate kid alone. It says, you know what I'm going straight boxing
26:29 Well, you know and it wasn't no money in it
26:34 Yeah, but that's he said man. Ain't no money. I mean when you ever see kickboxing on TV
26:39 Oh get your pay-per-view kickboxing the thing you've never seen
26:45 Since like the 80s so that's part of why I retired though, you know, I think I'm a 13 belts I was like
26:50 Put him up. He's chill. Yeah, that was the time. He stole 13 belts out of American Eagle. Yeah, go ahead
26:57 What fights you want to see though?
26:59 In boxing like yeah, not with me in them, but other fighters will fight you really want to see that probably won't happen
27:05 Mmm, I don't want to say that they probably won't happen. But you know, there's 35 division, you know, like or
27:13 Tank Shakur Devon, you know, all those guys, you know, I got I'm cool with all those guys
27:19 I know they don't necessarily get along but I'm cool with all those guys. So I would love to see all them rumble. Um
27:25 Who else you said don't mention me but me and Canelo need to run it back me and David we need to run it back
27:33 Yeah, those are like
27:38 Mmm on the top of the list
27:40 That's major
27:41 135 I want to see boots against any of the champions. Oh, yeah, and I love to see boots
27:46 That's what I want to see. I'd love to see scooter, you know running back with anyway
27:50 I want to I love this scooter running back with any way at 126. Yeah, I absolutely would love to see that
27:57 Yeah, that's my guy boots
27:59 He's amazing. You know, he's a great fighter. So this he just needs his chance, you know
28:03 He got his he kind of had a coming-out party against a villa. Mm-hmm
28:07 You know
28:09 Crazy fight man. I mean Villa don't speak English
28:13 But if anybody's watching this that speak his language and no speaks English
28:17 Please tell him that Gilly from me and I was worth a game is a
28:21 Fan of you. You are a gangster
28:25 You took a hellacious
28:28 Swooping and would not stop coming. That is the epitome of a gladiator
28:34 Yep, that somebody is on a on a different level tonight
28:39 They they getting over on you tonight, but you never you never quit trying to win, right?
28:43 Oh, never that's all you know, I'm trying to win. You never gave me my props. I took some
28:48 Mass with me
28:50 - you rolled up under the car you gave up and
28:54 As soon as Lou left you rolled from under the car and they're gonna ask me why I don't help
28:59 That's a smart thing to do. You're not supposed to get hit when you're fighting. Yeah, but you shit your pants, too
29:03 You weren't supposed to do that. No, I didn't do that one
29:05 I just but he never gave my props for my record in my you had no gladiator
29:08 So you get props for you?
29:11 I just look at the fight game. You was more like a ready
29:15 Saki each higher
29:17 But I so you
29:20 He does I write up
29:25 It gets walled up. Well, this is well up nice too fast. Is that what happened? Yes
29:32 No, not what happened. It happened a couple times. I got a little socked and you know, I didn't know where I was at and
29:37 I was rethinking them. What happened this well up quick a couple times it did depends, you know
29:45 I'd probably see things coming. I wasn't my defense wasn't prepared. I didn't alert my defense
29:50 So when you when you when you fight me, you'll alert your defense anything happen, you know
29:54 Because you might just be having a conversation. I'm talking to somebody. Yo, man, why you do that?
29:58 I'm like, oh, oh cuz I'm thinking I'm a D a D danger to danger and bring it down by do the conversation
30:03 So I'm not alert in my defense, you know get my stance mistake number one
30:06 I'm always you know, I mean, you know my what's mistake double what it's not being ready. Not being ready
30:13 I was you know anything I thought was ready couple times a couple times
30:16 I got socked it was based off a conversation. So my defense wasn't prepared or alert. He's talking to me
30:21 No, I'm trying to the you know, this is the escalate the whole situation. I hold up man. We ain't got to do this, please
30:28 And put my hands up. You know me like this. That's a sign of white flag. Oh
30:32 We ain't got to do this mistake number two. There are no white flags, right? I
30:38 Mean that's it. That's how you keep a white flag in his back
30:43 Got a handkerchief in there. Don't you I'll be telling a lot of fighters man. I'd be like man
30:48 Y'all got the wrong coaches man
30:49 You know me cuz some of these fighters they coaches need to throw them throw them towels up in them joints
30:54 I mean no straight up
30:56 I mean, I mean cuz my I'm gonna go through my coach if you get heated up in there a little too much
31:01 We ain't got to go to you beat me down too much
31:03 If it's a little too much body fender work, and I'm like this lot who was your coach?
31:08 And I had a couple coaches, you know, I used to be a Joe Frazier Jim around
31:12 Not one of his coaches was in jail. Let me tell you when his coaches in jail
31:16 He ain't no old here
31:20 Fishy oh, he's fake teaching him out of box
31:23 Really gonna box him and all out as much and jump into his bed
31:29 that's what he was trying to do and then the old one old here from our way found out he was down there training him and
31:36 Went down there and told here to leave him alone. He knew he was about to get
31:41 hmm
31:42 Know what happened was you ain't know?
31:44 Happened I come in a joint. They called me and I realized that I'm gonna say this
31:49 I mean being a martial artist, you know, I mean something there's something real poor. Hold his nanny. Hey, Nanny
31:55 I'm gonna call you right back. I'm recording. Okay
31:57 all right, so me being me being a
32:00 Martial artist I didn't know that the
32:04 the defense mechanism of choice in jail was boxing
32:08 You know, so I was a couple old years. I seen running around the yard. He shadow boxing
32:14 They got the gloves in the back pocket. So I'm like damn I got to do that
32:18 You know cuz you know martial arts. I couldn't be running around kicking. He thought that shit somebody stab you
32:23 They thought you know how to do some it that was other than the norm
32:26 So when I'm seeing I said damn I got to start doing it
32:29 So I'm gonna tell you can be straight up one day
32:31 I came out of the yard and my gloves in my back pocket hanging out and I started doing the boxer run
32:35 You know the Johnny do like, you know, I mean
32:40 So I'm like damn who would train on a block. I come back on a block
32:43 I see the old head at the gloves in his back pocket. He should be in the back shadow box
32:47 We should I'm talking a little good. This dude look like Mike Tyson
32:50 Muhammad he look like all the boys in his prime. He's gonna knock you out and pluck you know, so he's funny
32:55 I said damn, you know, I said, uh, you're training young buck. What's up?
33:00 I'm trying to do a little training in my thing. I never told him that I wasn't a boxer
33:05 I was a martial artist, but I was trying to get in a boxing game. He said come on guys. I could train you
33:09 I'm like damn this much. I gotta train it. That was easy
33:11 Like this was easy. I got a trainer. I'm like bet so now, you know
33:16 Walking in the yard winning a couple times. He telling me showing me the move see what you do right here
33:19 You know me see all this way. You got to keep this protected. I didn't even pay attention that he should do this a lot
33:25 So he's like man see this you got to keep this right here all that all this way here
33:33 Keep that protected at all time because if I come this I'm like he's always do that. So I'm thinking like
33:39 Damn, just do really know something
33:42 You know me so I'm like this dude is you know, because all I'd always hey, what's up, man?
33:46 Say that means speak to him and all that just a third
33:49 So I'm like, all right, cool. This episode of me and I was worth a game is bored to you by most in course
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34:58 Right bottom line he grabbed wallow dick see protect this right here
35:08 Show me that one more time
35:10 He was a he was a hiney warrior come to find out he may even see no I see never he never seen some he didn't
35:18 Like I didn't know that so I'm like damn you found out the hard way
35:22 No, no, no, not it had to go that far
35:24 When I'm always peep to see and said listen, we're not gonna let this happen, right?
35:28 I'm not the hard way. I really didn't know like see see see this the thing I was on a journey in jail
35:33 I didn't how you know, but how you know, he never see that see because they told me
35:38 He told you didn't man. He was he got you listen. He was different. He got married in the yard one year. He was different
35:44 This wasn't no regular old here. So bad, dude, man. He was bitch vicious. He was a he was a warrior
35:51 So he's a booty bandit winning. Yeah, he was he was dead. So I didn't know so I'm like damn
35:57 I think I got the best training job like yeah, I'm here. Yeah, maybe I
36:00 You know the fold I can get over forward. Yeah, man. I'm up here boxing man. I'm chillin man
36:05 You may do him a bit, you know, I mean I do it, you know, man. Come on do my thing
36:09 I'm gonna be you know, I got a chance. I'm still young. So I might come on
36:11 I mean, I can't go to Olympics, but I get an amateurs not a couple people out get in the game. You know, he has Bernard
36:17 Uh, yeah, cuz you know Bernard is a by story. See once one dude do something. Hey, buddy. Yeah, man
36:22 No, I was locked up in the same jail. He's an art. Did it? Yeah, that's how did you that's old John Bernard in that?
36:27 John Nash, I'm like damn I could be the champion of the world
36:32 This dude was trying to make me the champion of a cell. I mean champion of a mattress
36:36 He was vicious. I'm telling you yo, man. This boy stats
36:42 That's what crazy he was trying to make me champion of a jail mattress. I didn't know what was going on
36:48 See see see this. I'm a taste of shit Caleb
36:50 See, I'm gonna be the first one to admit these dudes be lying when they go to jail do what he's scared
36:55 He was trying to make you a father
36:57 Yeah
37:01 You know how they got mattress max though, he was trying to make me Wally Wally mattress
37:05 I'm telling you this dude was different cuz I'm telling you I didn't once I found out his stats
37:10 I was like man. I ain't never seen an old way. What was this?
37:13 That's his dad's was like he was undefeated in mattress warrior. He was that he was man. This ball was vicious. I said what?
37:21 Like he wasn't he was a professional I'm gonna put his name out there like this
37:28 I don't know. I don't know where yet, man
37:31 He might be on the streets and his name was dangerous. Dan man
37:36 He was vicious vicious. Yeah, but no, I'm just saying you know what I'm gonna be straight up. You know, what's crazy?
37:42 Everybody be front like they don't be scared in jail man. That's a scary place
37:46 All that tough dudes be like cuz I ain't gonna front me me being young corner
37:51 That was one of the things I was worried about said man. I got it
37:53 I got to go out here man my bottom intact, you know
37:56 I gotta make sure I go out how I came to how I came in cuz no man
38:01 Did you get crazy you don't be knowing see jailing like it is now you something the way jail is now is like
38:08 These dudes being a chillin. They got the phones. They got that when I went to prison
38:13 It wasn't a bunch of young dudes there now
38:15 It is but now prison filled with a bunch of young dudes
38:18 Hey by kumbaya and all that when I went there
38:20 It was like a little bit of young dudes and a bunch of old dudes in there
38:25 It was no straight up. They were showing you the ropes what no no, no, nobody let nobody show me the ropes
38:30 I seen the ropes and I realized you know showing you how things go. Yeah, basically
38:34 I mean, so so what happened is there's no boy, man. I
38:39 Didn't know you know me. I didn't know what's going on. So I walked in the shower room for the first time
38:44 I'm like man in there talking about the game. I'm like, hey, but yeah, man, you see the fucking game
38:54 I'm like
38:56 Because me when I came to the old penitentiary it was like a bunch of
39:01 Young dudes came cuz it was a over the jail dollars was a jail where's though?
39:05 It wasn't a they wasn't accepting prisoners for a long time
39:08 So when you get classified at Camp Hill when you go there, it wasn't a lot of do so
39:12 so when I went it was like a
39:14 Little bit of young boys is like it was like a scene in the movie soon as we walked in there
39:18 You're walking in there with your boxes, you know
39:20 You had some shorts that you can I mean the whole John looked at us like the music stop
39:25 Y'all got y'all shorts on for that's basically what they was. I'm like, oh
39:29 Everybody was in there having a gun show and they was having a conversation talking with the game
39:33 You see them rare skins you see my red skins, but you damn right mother
39:38 Kick y'all. I'm like, hold up. They talking slap me five. Do you do shadow boxing in the tree?
39:44 This shit was crazy. I was like, oh
39:48 Get out of love that night. I went back to the cell and I said man I
39:52 Say, you know what man? I
39:55 Gotta cry cuz I don't know what the fuck I got myself into I didn't know what the fuck that day
40:00 I realized I signed up for the wrong best reality said I said, oh, yeah
40:04 I'm gonna make it man because anytime you look I'm Tumma you got listen
40:08 You got 75 dudes in the shower room as clouded is already steamed up in the joint
40:13 So you got to be from here. You got a post up on the wall
40:17 Yeah, I mean I'm like, I got my back on the wall like this
40:20 Yeah, this shower. No radius. I don't need no shower for this bit. I'm doing I could probably just say when you know
40:26 Yeah, it's overrated. You know, I mean you realize shot being in the shower that stuff is overrated like damn
40:31 Why did I even want to go to like three showers a day didn't you? No, no, no, no
40:34 I I was a saint warrior for a minute be the cell wash it up in the safe. You know me because
40:41 like
40:43 Yo, man, I seen some wild shit in that shower
40:46 Oh
40:48 Man, oh my god. I'm just thankful. I made it out of that joint man. That's a scary place man
40:53 We made it out to man. We're glad to have you here with us. Thank you, man. I know man
40:58 I just be thinking about it. Sometimes waking up. I'd be like, oh, yeah, listen, let me show you something
41:03 You have dreams about it, huh?
41:05 Nightmares this the funniest
41:14 It's the funniest this page is in the middle of our interview just start talking about
41:18 Flashing pieces in the shower
41:23 He gonna block right here look I just Google the block that's the block
41:28 No, that's not me. That's when he's done. It's not a dog. Yes, and you know, they had a puppy a prison puppy program
41:35 That's the block right where they got dogs in jail
41:40 Where yeah, they're
41:42 Here. Yes. You like he told me about this and I was laughing it did when I posted it
41:49 Everybody was like Gilly. That's for real. Like people really got puppies in jail
41:53 So y'all do this?
41:55 Walla was a puppy. He was he was a real live
42:00 They said oh here their box had him on a leash, yeah
42:05 Banking a mission
42:10 What you looking up man, try and see if they still got my head up here I
42:13 Think I didn't get up. We had a prison ad
42:17 You was running ads in prison
42:20 Like that's why I'm glad I never did no motherfucking time you never been to jail, huh? That's perfect man
42:27 Cuz he did enough time for a month
42:30 25 total years. No, but you know what?
42:34 They had some great boxes in a joint some of the best boxes was in there
42:38 But then they never come home and only Bernard came home. It was some who yet. Let me ask you a question, though
42:43 Who your top five fighters right now in the game? Mm-hmm
42:47 Based off a skill based off a skill not based on the accolades. Why do you keep saying skill?
42:53 You you you but that but okay what it's games before
43:03 Tans Crawford had a belt we knew he was good
43:05 You could just tell you could look you before Earl Spence had a belt. We knew he was good
43:11 Well, I think a little Caleb plant had about you knew he was good
43:14 Before boots get a belt, you know, he's great. You know, he's good. You know certain my ass is good
43:22 You know, they got trained boots here. So
43:25 I think Terrence Crawford's got to be on the list. Yeah, absolutely
43:31 Five of them. Mmm Canelo's got to be on the list. Mm-hmm. Of course gotta be on the list. Mm-hmm. I
43:38 Think
43:42 Usec has to probably be on the list. Mm-hmm. That's it cuz five is hard. That's a good one
43:50 Yeah, I gotta really answer the question. I can't be on the list. Yeah, I can be you do whatever you know
43:55 Yeah, I don't feel like I got to be on the list. I know my skills are crazy. So
43:59 Your ass one more. I'm just gonna add one more
44:01 Take got me on the list. Oh, yeah
44:04 Thanks. Thanks the biggest draw. That's what I'm trying to say
44:07 What when you say skill I don't understand
44:11 What are you trying to say break that down like because if do you already mentioned some dudes that got belts and stuff
44:16 So what did you talk? No, that's his
44:18 But you see a skill would define skill. Okay, like boxing IQ boxing ability, right?
44:24 No one what to do when to do it want to do right?
44:26 I do it. Oh, so if you got belts, you know, you've got belts, you know that right?
44:30 Well, I mean some guys, you know, use their physical advantages more than their mental, right?
44:36 Oh the aggressive so aggressive break it down. So is it is a mouth is my though that get a flash in a pan belt, bro
44:44 Now I ain't talking about them
44:46 Flashing a pan champion sometimes whereas though he wasn't supposed to win and he caught him a knockout. Oh, hey got one in
44:55 The heavy weight if I he had a month on bill for all the
44:59 Four months I did like that. He's done the Mexican heavyweight boy that had the belts. He knocked somebody out Andy Ruiz Andy Ruiz
45:07 He was a guy for a minute
45:09 Make something I think with the auntie right now
45:14 Got the bill. Let's see. He actually
45:17 He might see
45:20 Andy Ruiz
45:22 actually is
45:24 A bit is more as far as skill wise. Mm-hmm
45:28 He's more skillful than Anthony Joshua Anthony Joshua straight up and down. Huh? One two heat
45:35 in
45:37 Andy can actually see something slip it counter punch it come back. Yeah, but
45:43 The physical shit he this he this tall compared to them. They this tall
45:49 So they jab right seven inches longer so much you could just jab you from across the street
45:56 So you got to get in on it?
45:58 Then you fight in heavyweights
46:01 So this is one anytime it could be like and turn your whole an electricity off
46:07 You didn't pay your bill. Gigi your lights is the fuck out
46:11 So you got to be careful on that type of time because you can you see my was there
46:16 But well the way you see my was a light lightweight. Yeah, they get punched in the face all day. They just walk through this
46:23 That you're not doing that shit at heavyweight
46:27 It's a 240 pound man punching you in your grill. Mm-hmm. So you got to be strategic with it
46:35 So a lot of times it he's definitely the most skillful fighter
46:38 But his physical attributes is so much more that he might could get over in a fight
46:46 Yeah
46:47 Let me say something. I never gave my top five fighters because I know people know I'm well, you know
46:52 I'm just getting a little verse and fighting but I was writing fashion fighting for a long time
46:55 You know, even as a kid McGee on my top fight
46:58 number one
47:00 Sugar Ray Robinson, he was a legend head of the he had thousands of fights. These dudes only fight that much
47:06 You know me so by that he's a warrior
47:08 my I'm not Lee
47:12 Mike Tyson, you know the big guys probably that's only guys, you know, who else?
47:18 Marvin Haggard and
47:27 Old school fighters
47:38 Georgie been no McGill my tent Floyd five
47:41 You know how I liked it this guy man. I seen two of his fights
47:45 They was they was they was like the fights of the year. This dude was great. His name was Arturo Gotti
47:49 He was a warrior in the ring him and him and I've arrived and had some battles
47:54 I just like this dude because he just kept bleeding and kept fighting
47:57 He was a bleeder, but he just kept fighting. They had the fight down in a see this back when AC was the baby Vegas
48:03 You know me so him. Let me see
48:07 Pee-wee was a legend
48:09 Pernell with it, but now we're sweet pea
48:14 That was name right
48:21 Sweepy put on my movie with the way he used to do his joints
48:25 What's my man name RIP to sweet pea but what's my man name used to come out I just like this
48:34 I'm giving him is you getting a list just because his intros he used to come out
48:38 Yep on a flying carpet carpet. He was a legend. He was legend. I like this. I like his old intro
48:44 He was he was a bad. He was a box in the story. It's a good you know, you know about he's a come
48:48 He used to watch anything, you know, he didn't know Ivan Robinson in them. I
48:52 would you know, I'm gonna do like a a
48:56 Three-way joint on the Philly tip. No four-way. This is my you know, I'm gonna put that number
49:02 They could all be together on the same list. I'm a pipe
49:04 David Reed
49:07 Bernard Hopkins
49:09 Danny
49:13 Man this list long man, what's the one boy? I see him. He had the old Rolls-Royce is driving around the belt in the back
49:23 No
49:26 No, no, he was like a heavyweight if he was like one of the big ways
49:29 He had to oh, he had this old age of Rolls-Royce, you know
49:32 Witherspoon
49:36 Witherspoon you know, I'm Tom. All right. He was a 10. He was a boxing champion. Oh, I
49:45 Don't know what you talk about, you know, he's on my
49:48 Head somebody from his top. I don't know what the you talk about but but bad luck all that so so Caleb man
49:59 The family like some witherspoon Tim with this boy. He was a two-time heavyweight. You don't even know boxing
50:05 You know me from Jersey on the wall. Sure. There's Jim. Yeah, one of my other fighters Bert Cooper. Go ahead
50:12 He was you know, he was a warrior. He didn't care. So the family life man
50:17 How does it feel to have your soulmate brother?
50:20 It feels good. It feels good. You know, I feel super blessed to have a wife, you know, like like Jordan
50:29 Anybody knows me, you know, I'm sure they know Jordan is but uh, it's just
50:33 You know, it's nice to have a teammate, you know, somebody who's not like a who's an asset, you know, not a liability
50:41 And she was you know a division 100 meter hurdler, you know, she had a full ride to you know
50:47 V to run the hundred meter hurdle. So she's an athlete, you know, she knows the type of dedication and sacrifice it takes and
50:53 She she makes it easy on me. You know, she really makes it to where I just have to
50:58 You know focus on my boxing, you know, whether it be with our rental properties and our stocks all our investments, you know
51:05 you know, she cooks and you know all the things that she helps out around the house and
51:09 You know with our daughter Charlie, you know
51:12 It just makes it to where I really can zone in on boxing and do what I need to do
51:16 And you know, that's why I don't take that lightly, you know
51:18 That's why I'm putting everything into it
51:21 and you know
51:21 I don't really have distractions like that in my life because you know
51:24 My family's counting on me and for her to be doing as much as she does
51:28 You know that lets me know that she really believes in what we got going and what I'm doing
51:32 And you know, like I said, I don't take that lightly
51:34 so, you know, it's nice to have a good a good friend like Jordan and
51:38 In my life, you know, I'm blessed to have that for sure not everyone has that and
51:43 But she's cool to be around, you know, a lot of girls want to be liked but they're not likable
51:48 All right, I mean and it's like she's easy to be around easy to hang around like that
51:53 Yeah, that's real, you know, let's bring that back a lot of girls want to be liked but she
51:57 But that's people in general really but you know, she knows how to just chill and kick it too
52:04 So but she's a really hard worker. She's like the hardest worker I've ever met in my life
52:07 So, you know, I'm super blessed to have somebody like that on my team who and in my life, you know
52:12 Help keep me focused and keeps me motivated because all the shit she's doing and accomplishing. It's like damn I
52:17 Got I got to keep up with that, you know, how do you block out?
52:23 You know, we live in a world now where everything is
52:25 It was different for a fighter back in the day to now because we live in the world now where it's though
52:28 Everything is televised. Everything is coming your way. Everybody got an opinion
52:32 People that never box never want to fight in boxing a life like him. They think the countertaters
52:38 You got all this stuff coming at you. How do you block out the noise?
52:41 You know, why you why you trying to train or why you trying to get you know?
52:44 Get it together because when you're training and it's a big fight coming up. Everybody is coming from all angles
52:49 How do you stay locked in?
52:51 Well, I think you know, I've been through quite a few things in my life and that's allowed
52:57 me to see who I really am and the type of you know, how I can
53:01 Operate under pressure and when I when you come out the other side of those things
53:05 It's like I know who I really am
53:08 So nobody's opinion of me is more pain more important than the opinion. I have of myself, you know, and their opinion is just
53:15 Them on Instagram. They don't even know me
53:18 But me knowing the things I've been through and come out the other side and coming out even better
53:23 I mean that lets me know like I know who I really am. And so it's just about you know, not letting anyone's opinion
53:29 be more important than the opinion you have yourself and
53:32 I trust myself because I know that I'm gonna come through I'm not out drinking partying
53:38 like I said, I know the type of work I'm putting in the type of discipline I have and the things I sacrifice and
53:44 You know, I know when it all comes to comes to blows with whoever's standing across from me, you know, I highly doubt
53:50 You know
53:50 There's very few people in the whole world in any weight class who have put more into this than than I have
53:55 so
53:57 How many how many years you got left in the game you think?
53:59 I'm 31
54:02 probably I
54:04 Don't know
54:06 Anywhere from like 33 to 35, but I've done, you know, really well with my money. Yes. I don't blow it
54:13 You know, I'm well invested. I have properties
54:15 rental properties, I'm well invested in the stock market and
54:19 So, you know, I'm in a situation where I could retire today
54:24 I have enough and now to retire and live the same way I'm living now until I pass
54:30 No, so I'm proud of that, you know doing well with my money. I have a good team around me my financial advisor
54:36 Arrington RCPA Mike and so I think it's important for fighters to you know
54:42 Have a team around them with people they can trust so they can you know invest wisely and that way when they're fighting
54:48 It's not just to keep the lights on but it's because you know, you love it
54:51 I don't feel under you know
54:53 I don't feel like I'm under the gun to have to take a fight be so I can get my bills paid or so I can
54:57 You know do this or do that?
54:59 I'm I'm living comfortably in you know, like I said, I don't have to fight another day in my life
55:03 Honestly, I'm just doing it cuz I love it wasn't when I was fighting it wasn't about money. But uh
55:09 you know I
55:12 Was I was always trying to keep my lights on because I never I wasn't trying to get knocked out
55:17 You know me so you got to be in there fighting to keep the lights on
55:19 I mean, but I have the money to keep the lights on no, no, no, I'm talking about going to sleep
55:24 I wasn't I'm in the ring. I ain't trying to get my life
55:27 I'm not fighting you know fighting to keep the lights on because it's right the wrong, you know, the wrong
55:32 The wrong the wrong punch come I'm going to sleep. I'm up. You know, I mean sleep plenty of time
55:38 Shut up. I mean I can't be did me I you know my record 7 to 31, but it's a record to be talked about
55:43 Yeah, you know when you talked about exactly I give up. That's why I'm saying were you giving me the problems?
55:49 You ain't give me problems. I kept going amateur record. They you up. Shut up
55:53 You know, it is a lot of that's good, though
55:56 It's good to know that you really stagger your paper because you never hear that side from you know, cuz some people you know
56:01 It is if you know, you got to do your thing out here
56:03 You know you and everybody spending money the way they want to you know
56:06 I have you know, nice things anybody knows those clothes. Yes
56:09 Chevelle and Paula got a nice house and stuff like that
56:13 But you know as far as like spinning it faster than I make it, you know
56:17 Nobody's above that rule, you know
56:20 We've had a million examples before us of people who made millions and millions and millions
56:25 And then I don't want to retire and be back at square one and have to fight just as hard to get back
56:29 Yeah, it's like I'm gonna do it right the first time, you know, I'm gonna learn from other people's mistakes. Absolutely
56:35 Well shit, man, we appreciate you
56:37 Man, you know, I mean we wish he we had a fight date right now to get y'all for him and Jamal
56:44 Me too
56:47 Jamal
56:49 We wait on you brother
56:51 Yeah, and you know shout out to Jamal Charlo because you know
56:55 I'm up with me doing this thing and it's just a great fight that I would want to see I will want to see
57:00 Caleb plant verse Jamal Charlo. So, you know, I think that's a fight, you know the boxing world
57:06 I love to see - you know, it'd be great for boxing. It'd be a big fight and
57:09 You know, that's what boxing is about, you know, the best fighting the best and I think it's a really good money fight
57:15 I think both of y'all would be able to really make some really good money
57:18 So and that's what's when when y'all at y'all age in it. Y'all already champions
57:23 You're already is is about belts, but it's about money really man is about
57:29 Being able to get the bag and I think that's a really good
57:33 fight pay-per-view fight - so
57:36 Jamal if you listening Caleb wants to fight you. Yes, sir. Let's get it done
57:43 And it's just like that, right?
57:45 You
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