Cruzeiro x América: 'Vou botar medo no Hugão' diz Toledo

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Durante participação no podcast "Fala AE" apresentado por Lauro Lopes o o jornalista e apresentador Otávio Di Toledo, falou sobre suas expectativas para o clássico entre Cruzeiro e América. Toledo disse que acredita na vitória e relembrou histórias do passado entre os dois times. Toledo ainda aproveitou para provocar o colega de bancada cruzeirense, Hugão.

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00:00 Otoledo, changing the subject a little bit,
00:03 the next classic game.
00:05 At the beginning of the year, America made great classics
00:07 against Cruzeiro in the Minas Gerais Championship,
00:10 but they got beaten in the first round by the Brazilian.
00:13 As I know there are a lot of Cruzeiros watching here,
00:17 they are already looking forward to your answer.
00:20 What are you expecting from this game against Cruzeiro
00:24 in the next round of the Brazilian?
00:25 My dream is this, I'm training hard,
00:29 I'm making Hugo very nervous,
00:31 because I'm saying that America will come.
00:33 It's crazy for me, but the Americans are crazy.
00:36 So, my expectation is to win Vasco today,
00:40 to win Cruzeiro, to get 23 points, 6 points from Cruzeiro.
00:44 Then they will shake the bases,
00:46 because they will start with that astonishment
00:49 of the second division.
00:51 But what do I see? A big mistake in Cruzeiro.
00:54 Cruzeiro, for me, was the best team in Minas Gerais
00:57 with Pepa, right?
00:59 The board of Cruzeiro and the fans were unfair with Pepa.
01:04 I didn't agree with Pepa's resignation.
01:05 I saw the game against Cruzeiro, I see all the games.
01:08 Cruzeiro against Botafogo, Cruzeiro dominated.
01:10 The goal of Botafogo was better on the field.
01:12 Against Corinthians, if it wasn't for that mistake in the end...
01:14 No, it was because of Palmeiras before.
01:16 I've never seen a team get to Allianz Park
01:19 and dominate Palmeiras.
01:21 Wesley missed the goal in the face,
01:23 if it wasn't for that goal in the end,
01:24 Cruzeiro could have won the match.
01:26 I was watching the game,
01:28 Cruzeiro and Pepa had a very serious goal-scoring fault,
01:31 which was in that cross ball in the area.
01:35 Right?
01:36 The escape did it once, did it twice,
01:39 and in the third one, the goal was scored.
01:41 Okay, it's a mistake, but Palmeiras dominated,
01:45 and the player from Palmeiras, the right-winger...
01:50 -Rony Dudu? -No, no, from Cruzeiro.
01:54 Wesley Bruno Rodrigues.
01:57 He missed a goal without a goalkeeper.
02:00 Cruzeiro played a great match,
02:02 and then played a great match against Corinthians.
02:05 It was supposed to be 3-0, the ball was in the back,
02:08 and in the end, Gilberto did that silly thing,
02:10 the team turned it off, and it was a very good team.
02:13 A team that did well against Botafogo, the leader,
02:16 Botafogo, until that moment, was doing well in the Brazilian league.
02:19 A team that did well against Palmeiras at Allianz Park,
02:21 and that dominates Corinthians, is not bad, right?
02:25 There's a Joaninha in your...
02:27 Is there a request?
02:29 Let her read it.
02:31 I can see you looking at it from the side.
02:34 -I saw it going up. -That's what you said.
02:37 It was good against the main teams in Brazil.
02:39 -It was good. -It was.
02:41 It was very good, and yes, in the game.
02:44 Pepa's exit is very bad.
02:46 Zé Ricardo is a very common coach,
02:48 he's from Mancín to the bottom.
02:50 So, it's a miracle.
02:52 A team like Cruzeiro, that was very close,
02:55 they made a lot of mistakes.
02:57 I think Ronaldo made a decision as a former manager.
03:02 He had to back out.
03:04 He was hurt by the fans' commotion.
03:06 The fans didn't want that exit so much.
03:09 -You see that everyone was surprised. -Yes.
03:11 I don't know if there was something internal,
03:14 some fight, because Pepa was with a very good team.
03:18 And now Cruzeiro is a bit disconcerted.
03:21 -They're not playing well. -What does America have to do
03:23 to win this game?
03:25 I think they have to do what they did with Cuiabá.
03:28 What did I notice in America's game against Cuiabá?
03:31 Three defenders, but with freedom for both sides.
03:36 In this case, it's two sides that are midfielders.
03:40 Rodriguinho and Matheus Henrique.
03:43 So, the team fit, because it had a three-man line.
03:46 Then, another three-man line came,
03:49 with Breno, Matheus Henrique and Rodriguinho.
03:52 And they managed to take the game from one side to the other.
03:55 A little bit ahead, there were Juninho and Martinez,
03:59 two good guys, and the two attackers.
04:02 So, until the game was scored against Cuiabá,
04:06 America completely dominated Cuiabá,
04:09 had more possession and reached much more.
04:12 So, I think that to win any game,
04:14 America has to keep that.
04:16 Since you play against three defenders,
04:19 you can't play with both sides,
04:21 you have to go ahead,
04:23 fit with the midfielders and the other two midfielders,
04:26 and reach the attackers, because then you attack in blocks.
04:29 The problem with Mancini's team was that there was a hole in the middle.
04:33 He was putting a lot of attackers,
04:35 he put Alê as a first midfielder.
04:37 There was a game, and it's a miracle he didn't lose to Flamengo,
04:41 he played well against Flamengo.
04:43 Then Alê, Martinez and Benítez.
04:46 If you want to win with a midfielder like that,
04:50 he faced Palmeiras like that and took four.
04:52 Then you say, "It's not luck, the guy doesn't understand football."
04:56 You'll face a Palmeiras that came with a strong midfielder,
05:00 with four in the middle,
05:02 because JonJon was in Dudu's place,
05:04 he pulls more in the middle.
05:06 You'll face a team with four in the middle,
05:08 with Gabriel Menino, with Scar, with...
05:12 Without a scoring goal, with more attacks.
05:14 It's too complicated.
05:16 I'm talking about Scar, not about Palmeiras.
05:18 Scar already left Palmeiras.
05:20 I'm talking about Scar, but I want to talk about...
05:22 Dudu, Rony, Rafael Veiga.
05:24 Veiga.
05:25 Everything I said about Scar is Veiga.
05:27 I'm not saying anything, but it's age.
05:31 It's Fael, man.
05:33 It's his fault.
05:35 It's Veiga.
05:36 So you'll face Veiga, Rafael, Gabriel Menino and JonJon.
05:41 You'll face a team like that with Ale, Martinez and Benitez.
05:48 Is there a way to win?
05:49 It's very difficult.
05:50 You have to beat the midfielder first.
05:52 They say Zaga takes a lot of goals.
05:54 But Ale, I don't know what happened to his head,
05:58 he plays without a stopper.
06:00 Every game.
06:01 It's also Tec's fault.
06:03 "Ale, if I told you you were the first striker,
06:05 you'd be ahead of Zaga."
06:06 Then comes the first fight.
06:08 I showed several videos in Alterna Resposta.
06:10 But there's a technical evaluation error.
06:12 To take Ale, who's a midfielder,
06:14 it's okay, he can fit in with the first striker.
06:16 But if he's not scoring, he's not the first striker.
06:19 What do you do?
06:20 I like Ale.
06:22 His football is fine.
06:23 I think he's a class too.
06:24 But you can play with a first striker,
06:26 do you know who?
06:27 Guarani from Divinopolis in the Minas Gerais Championship
06:30 in the Independência.
06:31 You want to give it a try.
06:33 The other team is weak.
06:34 Go up.
06:35 Go up.
06:36 But ask him.
06:37 If he's the first striker.
06:38 Hold it.
06:39 If he's not there to start the play,
06:41 who starts?
06:42 He doesn't.
06:44 The problem is that he has to understand that.
06:46 Ale will play as a forward.
06:48 In several matches, Ale missed a goal in the area.
06:51 But when he counterattacked, he wasn't there.
06:54 Is it Ale's fault? No.
06:56 It's the coach's fault.
06:57 If I'm the coach,
06:58 and my first striker goes twice on the attack,
07:00 I change him with 10 minutes of play.
07:03 How can that be?
07:04 So he doesn't stay on the wall.
07:05 Will America win this Clássico?
07:08 I'll bet with Cugão.
07:11 But the level of the bet,
07:13 the gravity of the bet,
07:15 will depend on today's game against Vasco.
07:18 If America wins against Vasco,
07:20 Cugão will be in trouble with me.
07:22 I'll bet and I'll be afraid of him.
07:24 We'll be afraid of the Cruzeirinhos.
07:26 Now you're lost.
07:27 It's complicated.
07:28 They'll be afraid.
07:29 Vasco is doing well, right?
07:30 Vasco is in the game.
07:32 He reinforced well.
07:33 He reinforced well on the window.
07:35 He won against Bahia.
07:36 And he got the team.
07:38 Let's see.
07:40 But I'll bet.
07:42 Do you believe in the victory?
07:44 I do.
07:45 I'm against Cruzeiro.
07:46 Do you know why?
07:47 I've been in the game since I was 3 years old.
07:50 My father was a bit lazy.
07:52 He didn't like to be in the game.
07:53 He was a miner.
07:54 Unlike you and the boys.
07:56 We were poor.
07:57 We didn't have a car.
07:58 It was hard to get a bus.
08:00 We had a neighbor, Geraldo.
08:03 He owned an American shoe store.
08:05 I loved going to the game.
08:06 So, since I was 4 or 5 years old,
08:08 I went with Geraldo.
08:09 You stuck to Geraldo.
08:10 Yes.
08:11 Geraldo was a systematic guy.
08:12 He left an hour earlier.
08:14 We arrived at the Minerão early.
08:16 He bought the sandwich and Guaraná chips.
08:18 He loved it.
08:19 40 minutes before the first half,
08:21 he went down to have lunch.
08:23 When everyone was going down,
08:24 we were going up.
08:25 40 minutes before the second half,
08:27 we were leaving.
08:28 Once,
08:29 the American scored 3-1 on Cruzeiro.
08:32 I think it was two goals from Achilles.
08:34 40 minutes before the game.
08:36 I was going crazy to stay with Geraldo.
08:38 "Let's go."
08:39 "I'm too young, man."
08:41 "Let's go, let's go."
08:42 We left.
08:43 Then we heard a vibration.
08:45 Then we turned on the car's radio.
08:49 "Cruzeiro's vestiary party."
08:51 I couldn't believe it.
08:52 It's not possible.
08:53 I couldn't believe it.
08:54 Cruzeiro had turned.
08:55 It was a goal from Moraes.
08:56 The game was 3-1 for us.
08:57 Cruzeiro turned.
08:58 I didn't see it.
08:59 Thank God.
09:00 That's good.
09:01 Thank Geraldo.
09:02 So,
09:04 this thing, man,
09:06 about Cruzeiro,
09:08 I've always followed it since I was a kid.
09:10 It's a bad mecca.
09:11 We would go and face Cruzeiro.
09:14 We were very lucky against Cruzeiro.
09:16 It's a rule.
09:17 The bad luck we had against Atlético,
09:19 we were lucky against Cruzeiro.
09:21 So, I believe in the victory of the class.
09:24 (bell dings)

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