Will Nawaz Sharif be arrested on his return of Pakistan? Irfan Qadir's reaction

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Transcript
00:00 Sir, what is your experience, what does your analysis say?
00:03 What happened that you didn't return all the requests for a second look?
00:07 We have no objection, we have no objection, we have no objection.
00:09 Everyone has an objection, till yesterday, today no one has an objection.
00:11 Yes, look, I can't say anything about the rest of the cases,
00:15 but in one case, I am also a lawyer on behalf of the MTA.
00:18 Yes.
00:19 So, my clients, they didn't contact me.
00:24 And because they didn't contact me, I didn't have any instructions,
00:28 so I had conveyed to our AOR, that is, I had conveyed to the Advocate on Record,
00:35 that I don't have instructions on this, so that's why I didn't come today.
00:40 There must have been some miscommunication between me and them,
00:43 which they may not have conveyed to the Chief Justice in that way.
00:48 The Chief Justice also told me that I should also come on the next date,
00:53 so I will go on the next date and put my stance in front of them.
00:57 So, I think…
00:58 What if you get in touch with the next date?
01:00 What if you get in touch with the next date and the MTA tells you to fight the case?
01:03 Next…
01:04 Yes, if they say, then I will definitely,
01:06 then I will agitate my points, whatever I have written in the review.
01:10 But if they take a silent stance in this way,
01:14 then obviously I will tell the Chief Justice, that in these circumstances, how can I press him.
01:19 You call him and ask him, what is the program?
01:23 No, I don't need to call him.
01:25 Okay.
01:27 Can't he be proud of his beauty and love?
01:30 No, no, it's not about pride.
01:32 It's not about pride.
01:33 It doesn't look good that you trouble your colleagues.
01:36 You tell them to file a case, you tell them to do this.
01:39 They know, all of Pakistan knows that these cases are filed.
01:42 So, it's not that they don't know,
01:44 I don't know why I should trouble them.
01:49 They will do it if they really think that there is something left in it.
01:54 This case is quite old now,
01:56 and the people who could have been involved in this,
02:00 they have retired now.
02:02 The party of Khadim Hussain Rizvi,
02:05 he is no longer in this world.
02:08 So, in these circumstances, I don't think that MQM will be interested in pursuing this.
02:13 So, till date, MQM has not withdrawn the appeal,
02:17 you just said that you didn't get in touch with them. Is that it?
02:20 Yes, absolutely.
02:22 They didn't contact me.
02:24 I didn't say that I didn't get in touch with them.
02:26 They didn't contact me.
02:28 And sir, if you could tell us the crux, the highlight,
02:32 what exactly did MQM object to this?
02:35 Their main objection was that there were some observations about your relationship with MQM on 12th May.
02:44 Since they were not a party in this case,
02:47 and they were not even heard,
02:49 they had the opinion that the case was not a legal one,
02:58 because they were not heard.
03:00 They had no opinion and they were not a party.
03:02 But now, I think, since there was no introduction,
03:07 I feel that they are not interested.
03:11 So, MQM wanted to say that the case was not related to 12th May,
03:15 and since you had given the observation,
03:17 then you should be kind and remove this part of the case.
03:19 If I may put it in simple words, can you say that?
03:21 Yes, they didn't say that it can be removed.
03:26 But essentially, PTI had said that they don't get in touch with us in that way.
03:34 So, we should review it to our extent.
03:38 But since there was no introduction against them,
03:42 I feel that they don't want to take any further action.
03:45 Sir, if they ask for legal advice from you,
03:47 then your advice would be that let it be,
03:49 what is the point of this decision?
03:51 When they ask for it, they will see.
03:53 This is a privileged communication between me and them.
03:56 I don't want to say anything about it.
03:58 Fair enough.
04:00 Legally speaking, this decision is in place today,
04:04 and obviously, the reviewers are also saying that it should not be done.
04:08 Does this mean that in light of this decision,
04:12 the institutions are bound to take action against those individuals
04:15 who have committed political crimes in light of this decision?
04:19 In today's observation of Chief Justice,
04:22 he has clearly stated that we also have to review our judge.
04:29 So, one thing has become clear that Chief Justice thinks that
04:33 there were some decisions that should have been revisited.
04:38 And he also thinks that some cases are pending
04:41 against some judges of the Supreme Judicial Council.
04:44 So, he has probably given a preliminary recommendation in that too.
04:47 But as far as the case is concerned,
04:50 whether it is related to the Pakistani police force or other institutions,
04:55 the Pakistani police force can proceed against its own people,
04:59 against its retired people.
05:01 It cannot proceed against the court.
05:03 It is the same as the Pakistani police force cannot proceed against judges.
05:07 So, judges cannot proceed against them.
05:10 The court does not have the right to give them these instructions.
05:14 What?
05:15 The court does not have the right to give them these instructions
05:18 that we are not doing anything,
05:19 but some of your individuals have committed such crimes,
05:22 so you should do it.
05:23 Is this not the right of the court in your opinion?
05:25 No, if the court says that you should do it,
05:27 then the court has already agreed that the court cannot proceed against them.
05:32 So, no, how far can these instructions not go?
05:36 That you should do it under your own institutional order,
05:39 but you did it.
05:40 Can the court not do this?
05:41 Look, the jurisdiction of the court is limited to those things
05:46 that the jurisdiction has been given by the law.
05:51 The court can say a lot of things that are not completely wrong,
05:56 but the court cannot do anything about it.
06:00 And sir, towards the end,
06:02 regarding the cases against Mian Muhammad Nawaz Sharif,
06:06 legally, again, I am not talking about politics,
06:09 legally speaking, what will happen if he is not arrested at the airport?
06:14 What exactly will happen so that he is not arrested at the airport
06:17 and can go to Minar-e-Pakistan for an interview?
06:19 If the administration does not arrest him at the airport,
06:23 then he will not be arrested.
06:25 No, no, no, I mean,
06:26 what happens to the court,
06:28 then the administration will not arrest him.
06:30 No, if I am in the administration,
06:32 then I will not arrest him.
06:34 If I was the Prime Minister,
06:35 then I would have said that we will not arrest him.
06:37 If I was the Chief Minister,
06:38 then I would have said that we will not arrest him.
06:40 Because if he is coming to Pakistan
06:42 and he wants to face his cases,
06:44 then let him do it.
06:45 Yes, if the court thinks that he should be arrested,
06:48 then the court will say so.
06:50 So, if the court says to arrest him,
06:54 then the administration will arrest him legally.
06:56 Otherwise, there is no need to make such a situation.
06:58 The administration can still say that
07:00 we do not need him for an interview or anything else.
07:04 And if he wants to go to court,
07:06 then the court can arrest him.
07:08 The administration cannot force the court to arrest him,
07:12 but here he has a sentence.
07:15 Until that week,
07:16 obviously, in the Al-Aziziyah case,
07:19 his sentence is not suspended yet.
07:21 So, for that, he will have to go to Islamabad High Court.
07:25 Or he will have to file a review of the Panama case
07:28 with the Supreme Court.
07:30 Under the new law,
07:32 he can get a release from the Supreme Court.
07:36 And this work will have to be done before he comes.
07:40 Yes, this work will have to be done before he comes.
07:44 If he thinks that the court,
07:47 his court decision is in his way,
07:51 then he will have to do it before he comes.
07:53 Yes, Huzoor, thank you very much.
07:55 Thank you very much.

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