Tune in for an insightful interview with John Mulligan, CEO of Soul Surgery, on AZ Family TV. In honor of National Recovery Month, we explore the difference between "Recovery versus Recovered."
Discover effective ways to transition from negative behaviors to positive actions. This segment offers the path to contentment and purpose. Learn how to break free from substance use disorders and embrace a productive, positive lifestyle when living with mental health conditions.
Key Takeaways:
1⃣Remove physical and mental obsessions.
2⃣ Embrace selflessness.
3⃣ Give back to the community through personal experience.
For more information, visit soulsurgery.com
Discover effective ways to transition from negative behaviors to positive actions. This segment offers the path to contentment and purpose. Learn how to break free from substance use disorders and embrace a productive, positive lifestyle when living with mental health conditions.
Key Takeaways:
1⃣Remove physical and mental obsessions.
2⃣ Embrace selflessness.
3⃣ Give back to the community through personal experience.
For more information, visit soulsurgery.com
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00:00 Welcome back to the show.
00:01 It is National Recovery Month,
00:03 and John Milligan, CEO of Soul Surgery,
00:06 is here to talk about Soul Surgery's approach
00:09 to helping those struggling with addiction.
00:12 Thank you so much for the uninitiated.
00:14 What is Soul Surgery?
00:16 - Soul Surgery is an addiction treatment center
00:18 that we do integrative medicine approach,
00:21 and we get the clients from being in recovery
00:23 to being recovered.
00:25 - And how do you see the difference
00:26 between those two states?
00:28 - Well, recovery's a process, right?
00:30 So once you get the process going
00:32 and you get to the why they are using the substance use
00:35 or having the mental health conditions,
00:37 then we can start a customized treatment plan
00:40 to help them get on their feet
00:41 and to be more content and have a purpose.
00:43 - So your mission isn't just to come up with strategies
00:46 to help the addict stop using,
00:48 but in fact, to get it to the root of the problem
00:52 and to try to treat the why.
00:53 - Yes, we treat the why.
00:55 We have to find the why before we can be effective
00:57 and we can get into the solution for sure.
00:59 - Soul Surgery's inpatient.
01:01 How long are people with you?
01:03 - It varies depending on the acuity level.
01:06 Some, they start at usually 30 days
01:07 and sometimes they're there for 120 up to six months.
01:11 - Okay, and sometimes this is covered
01:14 'cause I think people are concerned.
01:16 They might think they need a higher level of care
01:18 and to be inpatient, but they're concerned
01:20 their insurance won't cover it.
01:22 - Yeah, it varies on the insurance.
01:23 We have a full continuum of care
01:25 from detox all the way through outpatient
01:28 and usually the insurance companies,
01:29 at one point in time, will cover most of that.
01:32 - Can you take us through a day at Soul Surgery
01:34 for somebody who's inpatient?
01:36 - Sure, it's quite a taxing day.
01:39 I mean, they're up early.
01:41 They come in in the morning, they check in, we do all,
01:43 you know, their vitals and things like that.
01:45 We have a full medical department and psych department
01:48 and then they start, you know, their therapy,
01:50 whether it's gonna be individual one-on-one therapy,
01:52 they get two of those a week
01:54 and then they go into their process groups
01:56 and then we also, you know, there's so many things
01:59 that come up throughout the journey in recovery
02:01 is we have a lot of ancillary services.
02:04 We do massage therapy, IV therapy, biofeedback,
02:08 just a few things that we do.
02:10 We have a chiropractor on staff
02:12 that does basically with pain management, right?
02:15 A lot of individuals get hooked on the pain medications.
02:19 We have a chiropractor there to give them some alternatives
02:22 and then they go into, you know, the wellness piece.
02:24 We have a full gym, we have a rock wall,
02:27 we have trainers there,
02:29 we talk about exercise, eating healthy.
02:31 It's just a full day, every day, for during the week.
02:35 - Well, addiction is such a complicated disease
02:37 and it seems like why not throw everything at it, you know?
02:40 - Right, right, right.
02:41 Well, it's a disease that tells someone
02:43 they don't have it.
02:44 - Right.
02:44 - Yeah.
02:46 - 'Cause at a time, it serves you.
02:47 - Yeah.
02:48 - Until it doesn't.
02:49 - Right.
02:50 It's so powerful, you know,
02:51 and again, we have to get to the why.
02:53 Why do you use?
02:54 Why do you continue to self-sabotage your life?
02:56 You know, we want you to be content
02:59 and we want you to have that purpose, whatever that is.
03:01 - I know you're treating people
03:02 with complicated dual diagnoses,
03:05 people with mental health issues as well as addiction.
03:07 It's hard to know what came first,
03:09 but you are treating people with opiate addiction,
03:11 alcohol addiction.
03:14 Are there any other kinds of addictions
03:15 that you're treating now?
03:17 - Well, you name it, they're all connected.
03:19 I mean, you know, there's the eating disorder addiction,
03:22 there's, you know, the sex addiction,
03:25 just several things that,
03:27 but we really try to hold on the primary.
03:29 What's the primary addiction?
03:31 And then we can work our way through that
03:33 and get to the core.
03:34 - Before we let you go,
03:35 I know that a lot of 12-step programs,
03:39 they see part of the recovery process as being of service.
03:43 And I know at Soul Surgery, that's important to you too.
03:46 You want people to be connected to the community
03:49 and to be giving back
03:50 as a way of them staying abstinent or sober.
03:52 - Correct.
03:54 So basically, once you complete the program,
03:57 we have your physical and mental obsession to use is removed,
04:01 but then there's that piece, right?
04:02 There's that piece that you have to do
04:03 on a daily, weekly, monthly basis,
04:05 and that's giving back,
04:06 taking your experience and giving it to others
04:10 so they can see that it works through you to them.
04:14 - Thank you so much.
04:15 If people are interested, can they take a tour?
04:18 Can they come in for a meeting?
04:20 - Yes, they can come in and do a tour.
04:22 You can check us out at soulsurgery.com.
04:24 - If you or a friend or a relative
04:25 is struggling with addiction, soulsurgery.com.
04:28 John Milligan, CEO, thank you so, so much for being here.
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