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00:00 Hill knew former President Trump, he'd been stuck in court, will be there for months,
00:05 thanks to what is an absolutely obscene, egregious civil suit brought on by a devout Trump hater
00:12 that ran on a platform to get one man, one organization, one family, the Trump family.
00:17 That's not what the rule of law should be about.
00:19 Anyway, the attorney general of New York.
00:22 Meanwhile, zero experienced multimillionaire Hunter Biden with a newly shaved head, that'll
00:28 look good in prison, was arraigned for felony gun charges in Delaware.
00:32 And we will introduce to you all of that and give you the details on it.
00:37 Also the latest woke campaign from the Biden White House tonight.
00:40 And by the way, this just breaking, if I can put pull this up on my phone, I just got this.
00:45 Trump called out crooked Joe Biden after the administration stresses the immediate need
00:50 for a border wall.
00:52 Wow.
00:53 Yeah.
00:54 Oh, I thought they said that the border was closed.
00:57 I thought they said that the border was secure.
00:59 No, those were all lies.
01:01 Also Tulsi Gabbard and Laura Trump will all be joining us tonight.
01:05 So stay with us.
01:06 And John Solomon does have breaking news tonight involving Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, the IRS
01:11 and the DOJ.
01:12 But first, let's go back to Capitol Hill, where Kevin McCarthy is no longer the speaker
01:17 of the House.
01:18 Now, personally, I didn't think this was necessary.
01:22 Well, I think Chip Roy, Byron Donalds, Scott Perry, all Freedom Caucus conservatives, they
01:29 they gave us would have given us the same outcome in terms of regular order appropriations
01:34 bills had.
01:36 And by the way, cut government spending, secure the border and and literally stand up for
01:41 the principles that Republicans need to stand up for.
01:44 It all would have been done.
01:46 But you know, it is what it is at this point.
01:49 What's done is now done.
01:51 And sadly, now Republicans, they better move quickly.
01:54 They've got to act swiftly.
01:55 They've got to prove to you, the American people, that they can govern and keep their
02:00 promises.
02:01 To me, they've been doing a pretty good job, maybe not fast enough for many of us, but
02:05 that's the way that that that awful town works.
02:08 Sadly, the sewer, the swamp.
02:10 Now, eight Republican lawmakers joined all 208 House Democrats to oust the speaker last
02:15 night after a motion to vacate was put forward by Florida Congressman Matt Gaetz.
02:20 Two hundred and ten out of 218 Republicans voted to keep McCarthy.
02:25 But with such a slim majority, it was simply not enough for Kevin McCarthy.
02:30 And by the way, he didn't have to have that vote yesterday.
02:33 He said, all right, that's the vote you want to have.
02:35 I'm not going to make a deal with the Democrats.
02:37 Let's have the vote.
02:38 I'll win or lose.
02:40 And you know what?
02:41 I thought that took some courage and guts on his part.
02:43 The eight Republicans who turned on McCarthy had a variety of complaints, but some were
02:48 legitimate, some not worthy of the action they took.
02:52 Lack of action on appropriations bills.
02:54 Well, I think that Byron Donalds and Chip Roy and those guys came up with a pretty good
02:59 answer in 30 days that would have been done and handled.
03:03 Also, you know, bipartisan continuing resolutions.
03:05 They do have to stop.
03:06 We do have to return to order.
03:08 We do need to pass all 12 appropriations bills.
03:11 It was also and I know this for a fact.
03:14 Sadly, it was also personal.
03:16 You know what?
03:17 It's business.
03:18 It's personal.
03:19 But now there will be a new speaker.
03:21 We know that both House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan and House Majority Leader
03:27 Steve Scalise, they now both are officially in.
03:29 They are running to be speaker.
03:32 Let me tell you where I am tonight.
03:34 Make no mistake.
03:35 I like Steve Scalise.
03:36 I think he's a great leader.
03:38 I think he's a really good guy.
03:39 He's a patriot.
03:41 But I personally am worried for him for one very, very real reason.
03:48 It's not going to be easy to run for speaker.
03:51 He happens to be going through cancer treatment right now.
03:55 And I want his health to be put first.
03:57 I really mean that when I say that.
03:59 I don't think he should be changing his position at this time.
04:03 With that in mind, again, no personal anything involved in this.
04:07 My choice for chairman, my choice for speaker, the best option I think we have is Jim Jordan,
04:13 the Ohio congressman.
04:15 Now, I do believe he could and should garner the full support of the GOP conference and
04:22 can best articulate, that's for sure, he's the best guy at labeling lists of what Democrats
04:27 do wrong and what Republicans do right of anybody in Washington.
04:31 And I think he can articulate that agenda to the country.
04:34 Jordan is vowing to finish the job on the three fundamental things that the House must
04:39 do.
04:40 Pass the bills like the border bill, H.R. 2, which they had already passed that need
04:44 to be passed.
04:45 Do the oversight.
04:47 His committee is doing it.
04:48 Judiciary oversight, House Ways and Means Committee and rein in spending, control our
04:54 borders.
04:55 It sounds simple, but with a tiny, tiny, minuscule majority, well, the fact is they've got many
05:01 competing factions inside the GOP.
05:04 That is just the reality.
05:06 It is easier said than it is done.
05:08 And between the 18 moderate Republicans in districts that Joe Biden won and conservatives
05:13 in safe districts, there is often a big divide.
05:17 They have to come together.
05:18 Moving forward, House Republicans need to do that on on several new protections.
05:25 It's this simple.
05:26 As a caucus, as a conference, they're either going to succeed together or they're going
05:31 to fail together.
05:32 It's not going to be this group of Republicans win and the other group of Republicans lose.
05:36 No, either they win or the Democrats win.
05:39 And they need to remember who the real enemy is, whose policies are hurting you, the American
05:44 people, this country, who needs to really be replaced.
05:47 That would be the Democrats.
05:49 And together, well, with the next GOP speaker, whoever that might be, they've got to be given
05:54 the chance to serve for at least the rest of this 218th Congress.
06:00 In other words, the now infamous one person threshold for a motion to vacate that has
06:05 to go away with this majority.
06:08 It becomes impossible to govern that way, especially when you've got two hundred and
06:12 twenty one people that all have their own personal views.
06:15 The next speaker, they will have 15 months to prove themselves.
06:19 And then come January of twenty twenty five, Republicans, if they're happy with the job
06:25 of the new speaker, they can either vote that person's speaker to be to be speaker again.
06:31 If they are not well, OK, they can be unified and bring in the next person.
06:36 Or if they're not careful, they might be voting for the next minority leader if they don't
06:41 get the job done.
06:42 The patience of the American people is on a short leash here.
06:46 Now, if the sound of Speaker Hakeem Jeffries doesn't sit well with conservatives and Republicans,
06:53 perhaps that will be motivation enough to come together and get the job done.
06:57 And finally, it is imperative that House Republicans pick a speaker quickly.
07:02 We don't have time for 15 votes.
07:04 The first round of votes are going to take place next Tuesday, probably either Tuesday
07:10 or Wednesday, actually.
07:11 And this needs to be wrapped up as quickly as expeditiously as possible.
07:16 We are now on the cusp of a critical presidential election.
07:21 And the House has a very key, important role to play.
07:24 They need to hold together.
07:26 They need to hold the line against the radical left and their insane agenda.
07:32 They need to continue their oversight into Joe Biden, what I'm calling the Joe Biden
07:37 bribery and money laundering scandal allegations.
07:40 They've got to keep their feet to the fire.
07:42 We cannot live in a country with a dual system of justice and a weaponized FBI and a weaponized
07:48 DOJ.
07:49 They need to demonstrate the obvious benefits of the conservatism, the conservative agenda,
07:55 you know, one with less spending, less inflation, less woke, total BS, fewer government restrictions,
08:02 lower gas prices, energy security, border security, safety in every city, every town
08:08 in this country.
08:09 So Americans can pursue happiness, a free and fair judiciary that applies the law, not
08:15 judicial activism, and Republicans need to stop fighting each other right now and focus
08:21 on what has become a radical Democratic Party that is turning this country upside down and
08:28 has put 66 percent of this country living paycheck to paycheck.
08:32 And many can't make their monthly payments.
08:35 And by the way, all while the decrepit, frankly, president withers on the vine right before
08:40 our very eyes.
08:41 And of course, socialist roots, they're trying to remake America.
08:45 They want you to owe nothing and to have no basic rights.
08:49 They want to pick your appliances.
08:50 They want to pick your car.
08:52 They want to replace personal responsibility with collectivism.
08:56 They want to eliminate America's borders altogether and destroy American pride.
09:01 They are ruthless in their unending mission to transform this country away from capitalism.
09:07 Now is the time for Republicans and conservatives.
09:10 You must now quickly come together and fight back hard.
09:14 Do it on a united front.
09:16 Now in a signal of things to come, the speaker pro tem Patrick McHenry.
09:20 Well, he just evicted both Steny Hoyer and Nancy Pelosi from their special hideaway offices
09:25 in the Capitol.
09:26 By the way, that was a good move.
09:29 It is time for the GOP to be unrelenting against Democrats and radical socialists instead of
09:37 each other for a change.
09:39 Biden is the worst president in American history.
09:43 Let's not give Democrats and the mob and the media a sideshow to distract them from their
09:48 failures.
09:50 Their policies are hurting each and every American in this country.
09:54 It's time to get America back on track.
09:57 Yeah, to use the phrase, bring this country back to greatness again.
10:00 We need that desperately.
10:01 All right.
10:02 Joining us now with reaction Fox News contributors, the great Charlie Hurt, the great Ari Fleischer,
10:07 former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee.
10:09 Charlie, good to see you.
10:14 Let's start with your analysis.
10:15 And do you agree with the sense of urgency that I feel that this has got to be expedited
10:21 and they got to get back on course?
10:23 Oh, absolutely.
10:24 And I think that a lot of credit has to be given to Kevin McCarthy for making the decision
10:28 that, you know, he could have drawn this out for weeks or months if he wanted to.
10:31 He took one for the team by making the decision that, look, I've gotten us this far and I'm
10:35 going to hand it over to the next person and let the next person, you know, let the conference
10:39 figure it out.
10:40 But you're exactly right.
10:41 They do need to make a decision and go with it.
10:44 And I guess we can talk in a minute about all the different names that are out there.
10:48 But I think that you could not possibly do better than Jim Jordan.
10:53 And the idea that Democrats would have gotten all-- the only reason we're in this position
10:58 in the first place is because of the Democrat votes.
11:00 And for them to have gone through this whole process and then wind up with actual Jim Jordan
11:05 as their-- as the majority-- as the speaker of the House, that would be hysterical.
11:09 I'll tell you one thing, that I don't know of any Republican speaker is going to be able
11:13 to match the fundraising efforts of McCarthy.
11:16 McCarthy was a fundraising machine.
11:18 And they-- and you know what?
11:19 Money matters in elections.
11:20 Money doesn't make you happy.
11:22 Money does equal freedom in the sense that it gives you a chance to have options.
11:26 I think I was actually happy when I was poor, but I had less stress.
11:31 So with that-- so it's important in elections.
11:35 Democrats have, you know, all these billionaires funding, you know, dark money, every-- all
11:39 sorts of money.
11:41 Mike Huckabee, Governor, great to have you.
11:43 Your thoughts on all this.
11:46 Well my first thought is, why don't you start sending me some checks since it would make
11:49 you feel better to be more poor than you are?
11:53 And I'll take that off your hands and relieve that stress from you.
11:57 I think that'd be the starting point.
11:58 I really appreciate that, Governor.
11:59 You know, I'm giving my life's blood here because I love this country.
12:05 Well, you know, and I appreciate that you do, and I don't doubt that.
12:10 What I do wonder about is why on earth had eight Republicans somehow thought that making
12:15 a deal with the devil was going to be a good thing.
12:19 It just blew up.
12:21 And the sad thing is that the Democrats have given us this mess.
12:25 Charlie Hert is exactly right.
12:27 Get a speaker quickly.
12:28 Jim Jordan would be terrific.
12:30 There's several other names being floated.
12:32 Some people are wanting Donald Trump to come do it.
12:34 I wish he would.
12:36 Not permanently.
12:37 He hasn't got time for that.
12:38 He's running for president, which I hope that's successful.
12:40 Even, by the way, Governor, he was clear he would do it on a temporary basis but still
12:45 keep running for president.
12:46 That would not interfere with that.
12:47 See, that's what-- that's what I think he should do.
12:49 Go do the job for two weeks and have everybody just saying, OK, this is-- this is just incredible.
12:56 Two weeks and I guarantee you the House will be a different place.
13:00 I will say this, Governor.
13:06 That'll be one hell of an entertaining two weeks in Washington.
13:08 It might be the most fun they've ever had in the last 50 years.
13:12 Ari, let's get your take.
13:13 I've heard some of your thoughts on this earlier.
13:17 I don't find myself in much disagreement with you.
13:20 Yeah, Sean, let me make a couple of points.
13:22 One, no institution can survive.
13:25 Whether you are a principal at a school, a CEO of a company, a talk show host, or the
13:30 Speaker of the House, if any one member of your team can throw you out of office while
13:35 the competition gets to make the decision.
13:36 I mean, it would be like a CEO if you have one customer who says, I don't want the CEO,
13:42 and then the other-- other companies you compete against, they get to throw you out.
13:46 Or in this case, Sean, if one member of your live studio audience said, we want Hannity
13:51 off the set, and then CNN and MSNBC get to vote you off the set, you're done.
13:56 I did identify a liberal in the audience tonight.
13:59 He wants to vote me off the island right now.
14:04 Thanks a lot for giving him the idea.
14:05 I appreciate it.
14:06 No, nobody would ever do that to you.
14:08 You're unanimous.
14:09 No, he's shaking his head no, but go ahead.
14:13 This is why the House has got to change that rule so no one member can vacate.
14:17 It's going to take the institution down.
14:19 And the Democrats weren't dumb enough to do this.
14:21 But the other thing is, you've got to give the Democrats credit for discipline in the
14:24 modern era.
14:25 Nancy Pelosi had a five-vote margin, and they were able to hold together as a party.
14:30 When George Bush was president, under Denny Hastert, the former speaker, Republicans had
14:33 a five-vote majority in the House.
14:36 And they were able to get things done and pass them because they were disciplined.
14:39 The modern Republican Party has got to get its discipline back.
14:43 Otherwise, the Democrats will own the Republicans, and they did this week.
14:47 Well, you know, it's very salvageable.
14:50 I think that is very key, but the speed at which they act now is going to matter.
14:56 I always say Democrats circle the wagon.
15:00 Republicans create circular firing squads.
15:02 Am I wrong?
15:03 I think you're exactly right.
15:05 And of course, some of the issues that were complained about are important issues, like
15:09 single-subject legislation is very important.
15:12 Regular order, as you pointed out, is very, very important.
15:14 But I also think that there's so much focus has been on this, the rule about vacating
15:20 the chair.
15:21 You know, the other thing that still exists is the idea of the Hastert rule, where you
15:26 don't move things on the House floor unless a majority of the conference agrees to it.
15:32 A majority of the conference didn't agree to this.
15:35 So whatever you think of Matt Gaetz--
15:37 96% were against it.
15:38 Matt Gaetz violated that basic rule.
15:39 Look, I think it's fair.
15:41 Tell me if you agree.
15:42 Whoever is going to be the next speaker is going to have 15 months to prove themselves.
15:46 That's it.
15:47 If they're not happy after 15 months, all right, hit the change button in the next Congress.
15:52 But hopefully, you're still in the majority.
15:56 If the Republicans get the work done, they will be rewarded.
15:59 If they don't, they're all going to go down together.
16:02 If we learn nothing else from Donald Trump, we've learned that change is good, and you
16:06 can do good things from change.
16:08 And my prayer is that these guys--
16:10 Well, changing Joe Biden has not been good.
16:12 That is true.
16:14 But I do think that rolling a hand grenade into Washington is not a bad idea.
16:21 Well, Governor Huckabee, how do you think this plays out?
16:25 You think they will act expeditiously, as I'm urging them to do tonight?
16:28 You're urging, Ari's urging, Charlie's urging?
16:32 I sure hope so.
16:33 I mean, it's for the benefit of the country.
16:35 It's also for the benefit of our presidential election.
16:38 And it's for the benefit, really, of Republicans in general.
16:41 So if they're going to make some changes, they need to do what the Democrats are so
16:46 good at, and that's sticking together.
16:48 They've got to look at themselves as being on the same team.
16:51 And if you're on the same team, you don't ask the opposing team to break the legs of
16:56 your quarterback so you get a chance to be the quarterback.
17:00 You win as a team, you lose as a team.
17:02 And that's what I hope Republicans will learn.
17:04 And especially, Ari, when you have such a thin majority here, nobody's going to get
17:10 everything they want.
17:12 That's the nature of being on any team, isn't it?
17:15 Well, and this is the strain modern Republicans are under.
17:18 On the one hand, it's almost an establishment notion.
17:21 You have to compromise, especially if the Senate's a Democrat and Biden's a Democrat.
17:25 The House, with a five-vote majority for Republicans, somebody's going to have to compromise somewhere
17:29 to get things done.
17:31 But then there's another strain that just says, blow it all up.
17:33 Our problems are so deep.
17:35 Absolutely no money for Ukraine.
17:37 Cut the debt.
17:38 Do it now.
17:39 Shut the government.
17:40 And that is why it's so hard to compromise, because you have such different approaches
17:44 to what good government is.
17:46 But here's the one thing I'm looking for.
17:47 For the eight members, Republicans who voted against Kevin McCarthy, they need to say,
17:52 we no longer will adhere to one vote for a motion to vacate.
17:56 It needs to be 10 or 20.
17:57 If they do that, that is the first sign that this conference can unite and elect a speaker
18:02 and stand behind the speaker and pass conservative Republican policies.
18:06 But those eight have got to be willing to make that concession.
18:09 Oversight, borders, and budget need to be their top priorities.
18:12 They've got to manage our money better.
18:15 They've got to cut spending.
18:17 They've got to secure our borders.
18:19 And they've got to hold Joe Biden and that entire Biden clan, the syndicate, accountable.
18:25 Thank you all.
18:26 Charlie, good to see you.
18:27 Governor, thank you.
18:28 Ari, thank you.
18:29 All right, coming up, breaking report.
18:30 John Solomon raising new questions about the integrity of the self-proclaimed independent
18:36 DOJ, and according to reports back in 2018, Senator Menendez, his wife, allegedly hit
18:43 and killed a pedestrian.
18:45 A lot of questions.
18:46 Why this one?
18:47 Did a briefing on the status of Hunter Biden's case only days after Joe Biden took office.
18:52 Here now with the details.
18:54 And he actually has the real documents.
18:57 Investigative report, reporter, founder, editor in chief, just the news.com.
19:01 We welcome John Solomon, sir.
19:02 Well, I read this report.
19:08 And what do we look?
19:10 What is the question we keep asking?
19:12 Has Biden's DOJ have people within the Justice Department been protecting the Biden family
19:20 for many, many years, covering up for them?
19:24 And you've got actual documents tonight that verify that some on.
19:29 Oh, I'll use the IRS whistleblowers turn things that never happened for anyone else occurred.
19:35 That's a good way to put it.
19:37 Yeah.
19:38 Tell us about preferential treatment.
19:40 That's exactly what the IRS agent said.
19:42 And they have been validated by so much evidence.
19:44 Now thousands of pages of evidence.
19:46 Let's take everybody back.
19:47 Merrick Garland said we were hands off.
19:50 We didn't touch the Hunter Biden case at all.
19:52 No, no interference.
19:53 David Weiss totally in charge of the plane.
19:56 And then we found out.
19:57 Well, wait a second.
19:58 He's in Washington, D.C. and Los Angeles, appointed by Joe Biden, blocked the tax charges
20:03 going back to 2014.
20:04 That would have put felony charges, tax evasion on Hunter Biden.
20:09 Then we found out a few weeks ago.
20:10 Wait a second.
20:11 When they were making that sweetheart plea deal, the deputy attorney general's office,
20:14 Joe Biden's political appointee involved there.
20:17 Now we found out the second Joe Biden signed his inauguration papers.
20:20 He gets in 16 days after he gets into the Oval Office.
20:25 The political appointees at the Justice Department demanded a briefing from Delaware on February
20:30 5th, 2021.
20:31 And it was an odd event, not just the ask for the briefing, but the some of the people
20:35 that were coming.
20:36 The agents, Gary Shapley and Joe Ziga, were very concerned that the National Security
20:41 Division of the Justice Department was trying to hone in on this briefing, trying to find
20:45 out what they were investigating.
20:47 It didn't make sense to them for one, it was a tax case.
20:51 Two, there had not been a national security component yet made into the predicate of the
20:56 case.
20:57 So why is the National Security Division trying to hone its way in?
21:00 And let's remind everybody what the National Security Division's recent past has.
21:04 A lot of those FISA warrants that went after Russia collusion, the bogus Russia collusion
21:08 case, that was your National Security Division doing that.
21:11 The decision to raid Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago home.
21:14 Oh, wait, the National Security Division again, for some reason, this National Security Division,
21:19 like Devin Nunes often says, keeps trying to burrow into some of these politically sensitive
21:23 investigations whether they have authority or not.
21:26 I expect Jim Jordan and others to really hone in on this new evidence.
21:30 It was produced by Joseph Ziegler and Gary Shapley in the last few days to the House
21:35 Ways and Means Committee.
21:37 Documents are up on the site, people can read it.
21:38 But Merrick Garland's story continues to erode.
21:41 There was a lot of political fingerprints of the Washington Justice Department under
21:45 Joe Biden in the Hunter Biden case.
21:47 All right, John Solomon, by the way, you told me earlier your dad's not feeling well.
21:51 Our prayers are with him tonight.
21:52 And as always, thank you for another great report.
21:53 Thank you.
21:54 Appreciate it.
21:55 He's a great friend of yours.
21:56 Thank you.
21:57 All right, former President Donald J. Trump back in New York court today, still facing
22:02 that Trump hating New York AG, Letitia James, and this crazy judge, this bogus lawsuit trying
22:11 to drive Trump and his kids completely cancel them from any New York business, find them
22:18 two hundred and fifty million, two hundred and fifty million dollars, if you can believe
22:24 it.
22:25 And oh, and a judge that is the dumbest judge I've ever seen in my life.
22:31 Now, Trump is rightly complaining that this whole thing is pointless.
22:35 It's politically motivated in this trial and taking away from his ability to campaign in
22:41 the middle of an election.
22:42 See, I've been targeted like that by a candidate for attorney general because that's what's
22:49 happening with Bragg.
22:50 That's what's happening with Letitia James.
22:52 That's what's happening with Fannie Willis.
22:54 Does that sound like equal justice, blind justice in America?
22:59 I don't think so.
23:00 And some Democrats apparently have law enforcement helping them cover up their crimes.
23:04 Let me give you a prime example.
23:06 We just learned the wife of New Jersey Senator recently indicted Bob Menendez reportedly
23:11 killed a pedestrian with her car back in twenty eighteen.
23:15 Now, the senator's wife was cleared pretty quickly of any wrongdoing by the police and
23:19 allowed to leave the scene.
23:22 According to The New York Times, she was not tested for any drugs or alcohol.
23:26 The incident was never reported publicly until now.
23:30 How convenient.
23:32 And by the way, she allegedly later got a replacement car, the Mercedes convertible
23:37 listed in the indictment.
23:38 It's nice to have good friends.
23:41 Kilos of gold, tons of, everybody has five hundred grand of cash living on a senator's
23:46 salary, right?
23:47 Laying around their house in their pockets, stuff down their sheets, whatever.
23:50 Anyway, here with reaction to all of it, Fox News contributor Jonathan Turley.
23:54 Jonathan, welcome back.
23:55 Professor, if I'm wrong, I guess I would fail in your class.
24:03 But why do I believe that we shouldn't have people in that are running for positions like
24:09 D.A., like Bragg in New York or Letitia James, A.G. or Fannie Willis down in Georgia that
24:16 are campaigning to go after one person by name, one family by name, one organization
24:23 by name?
24:25 That seems to me that they're going in with the predetermined agenda and making that a
24:30 campaign promise.
24:32 And in those positions, they have an awful lot of power, don't they?
24:37 They do.
24:38 And when James was running for office, I wrote that I thought there were serious ethical
24:42 problems with a prosecutor really trying to secure office on the pledge to nail one person.
24:50 This is a trophy pledge that I'm going to bag Donald Trump and not mentioning what he
24:56 might be charged with.
24:57 I'm just going to charge him with something.
25:00 And that should be an embarrassment to the entire New York bar.
25:04 I think that Bragg should be an embarrassment.
25:06 His case is, in my view, just ridiculous.
25:10 It barely holds together.
25:12 But this is part of this recreational use of the laws to pursue one popular person.
25:18 Now, I'm not saying that there's not going to be any merit to the question about these
25:22 filings for banks and loans.
25:26 But the question is, is this selective in isolating the Trump business?
25:32 Because I wrote earlier that James has expressed very little interest in liberal organizations
25:38 that have been accused of similar conduct.
25:40 She's gone against, she's gone after the NRA.
25:43 She's gone after Trump.
25:45 She has really developed the signature that she will use all of the levers of her office
25:50 to go against political opponents.
25:52 Yeah.
25:53 Let me let me ask you this question.
25:56 So we're watching the case down in Mar- Mar- Mar-A-Lago at issue in this case that actually
26:01 taken place in New York about the Trump organization.
26:03 They want to take they want to put all Trump properties in receivership so they'd have
26:07 no control.
26:09 Take $250 million, prevent them from ever doing business in New York for at least five
26:14 years.
26:15 Not that they'd ever want to.
26:17 And what's really amazing to me is that issue is the idea that Donald Trump somehow on his
26:23 financial applications for loans and insurance policies inflated the cost and the estimates
26:30 of their value.
26:32 Now, there is a disclaimer.
26:34 I read it on the air last night in every contract where it says, do not take our our evaluations
26:41 to heart.
26:42 That basically these financial institutions have their own fiduciary responsibility to
26:48 come up with their own figures on that.
26:50 And by the way, I don't know a single lender in the world that would say, oh, you think
26:54 your home is worth a billion dollars?
26:56 No problem.
26:57 And and here's and here's the irony of this.
27:00 Then the judge uses a tax assessment, even though the town of Palm Beach told him not
27:05 to do so.
27:06 He literally said Mar-a-Lago's worth what, anywhere between 18 and 26 million dollars.
27:13 Well, if you get a one and a half, if you get a two acre plot of land, there's one for
27:18 sale just dirt and there's 20 acres of Mar-a-Lago.
27:22 That's 200 million dollars right now.
27:24 An acre.
27:25 That's one hundred and seventy five million.
27:27 You can go check it out on Trulia dot com or one of those Web sites.
27:32 So how does this judge do exactly what they're accusing Donald Trump of and not give a proper
27:37 assessment?
27:38 How does that play out in this case?
27:40 Because to me, that's pretty despicable.
27:43 Well, this is going to have to play out because it has to be was to withstand appellate review.
27:49 The difficulty for the Trump team is that the New York law is almost unique.
27:54 It doesn't require an intent to defraud and it doesn't require that anyone lost money.
28:00 In fact, the Trump team is arguing that these banks made a lot of money.
28:05 Nobody lost a cent.
28:07 So there's no classic victim in this sense.
28:10 But under the New York law, you don't have to cost anyone a dime for James to demand
28:16 what's called disgorgement of profits.
28:19 And that's what she's arguing for here.
28:21 But she's using a nuclear option here, which I can't understand, and demanding all of this
28:27 relief.
28:28 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
28:29 Professor, always great to have you, Professor Jonathan.
28:31 Thank you.
28:32 Up next, Laura Trump.
28:33 She joins us.
28:34 She actually has a new single out, but a billboard promoting it in New York City won't put her
28:42 name on the billboard that she paid for.
28:45 Laura will join us next to explain.
28:47 And Biden's dog can't stop biting Secret Service agents.
28:52 Well, that's not good.
28:55 Laura tried to promote the song with a billboard in Times Square in New York City.
29:00 The billboard company allegedly refused to add her last name.
29:04 Wow.
29:05 Laura Trump is with us now.
29:07 I loved you on the horse.
29:11 I think I want to produce the music video with you and Eric Yellowstone style on horseback.
29:19 I think that would work.
29:20 Congratulations.
29:21 Why wouldn't they put your name up?
29:23 Yeah, well, you're hired for the music video, Sean.
29:25 I love that idea.
29:27 It's sort of amazing.
29:29 My song was released last Friday.
29:31 And let me just say, I'm not trying to make a career out of this.
29:33 I do not fancy myself the next Whitney Houston.
29:36 This was an incredible opportunity to do something with music, which I've loved for a long time.
29:41 I played the piano on this track as well.
29:44 And I'm very proud of it.
29:45 So thank you so much for talking about it.
29:47 But last Friday, we paid for a billboard in Times Square.
29:51 And the billboard company agreed to put my name up there with the song title.
29:57 And what you saw there, the picture of me on the horse, we paid for it.
30:01 They signed the contract.
30:02 And then about two hours before the billboard went up, they called and said, we can't put
30:08 it up with the last name Trump.
30:10 Could we just use Laura?
30:12 And I said, absolutely not.
30:14 My name is Laura Trump.
30:16 I'm proud of that name.
30:17 That's my song.
30:18 That's what I paid for.
30:19 And that's what we went up there.
30:21 So Sean, instead of doing what we asked, they just put the picture up of me on the horse.
30:26 So if anybody was in Times Square on Friday, they were probably very confused because there
30:30 was no context to a picture of a woman on a horse.
30:34 And it's really sad because this is the kind of treatment-
30:38 >> You just can't make this up.
30:39 I mean, you really can't.
30:40 >> Yeah, but this is the kind of treatment that I think conservatives are used to.
30:45 We're used to being censored.
30:47 We're used to being shadow banned, which certainly, I already know my song was shadow banned.
30:52 So many people told me on Apple Music, on Spotify, on Amazon Music, they wouldn't put
30:58 my song on the radio cuz it was too political.
31:01 And I think it's time we as conservatives start fighting back.
31:06 So they are in breach of contract.
31:08 They discriminated against me.
31:09 And this will not be the end of this story, I can assure you.
31:13 >> I like that.
31:15 >> It sounds like you're not gonna back down.
31:18 But this is what your family goes through.
31:21 Your husband now has to be in court for how many months over this insane judge that thinks
31:28 Mar-a-Lago, he's so stupid.
31:31 You can buy a two-acre piece of dirt, want a property, no home on it, $200 million.
31:39 We showed the listing.
31:41 And he's claiming Mar-a-Lago's 18 million?
31:44 And then denying that he actually, well, I didn't say it, the assessor said it.
31:48 No, you said it, and they told you you're wrong.
31:50 And you said it.
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