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00:05 It's been different for me because everything else that,
00:08 because I tried to take part in everything.
00:10 I'm an adult looking back on a child with my adult views.
00:15 How old were you?
00:17 Started when I was about 11 and this was about three years this went on.
00:22 When I saw that child, when me and Jim just watched it by ourselves,
00:30 I felt really sad for that little girl.
00:33 You know, I really felt sad for her.
00:36 And Jim was like, but that's you.
00:38 And in one way, because I've learned to separate us,
00:43 you know, like so I can do all of this, I separate us.
00:47 It was quite a watch to see me as a child because I looked at her as a child.
00:56 Whereas I do this thing as an adult, but that was a child and that was really hard.
01:03 But I want it to be a hard watch because this wasn't easy for us guys.
01:08 Of course not.
01:09 And if that's not a hard watch, you're not coming away with anything.
01:13 You're not having that opportunity to learn how and he is very relevant
01:18 to all the other groomers.
01:20 Yeah.
01:21 The pattern's the same.