Watch NCP leader and minister Chhagan Bhujbal react to caste census demands.
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00:00 possible now as you have now joined hands basically with the NDA, you are a part of
00:04 now NDA. Do you really feel the Prime Minister and the BJP is quite serious, a) to hold a
00:10 caste census because you have been very ardently propagating basically to have caste census.
00:16 Now the Bihar has already come out but BJP is still not. Even the state BJP chief has
00:21 definitely said there is a need to it. But at the central leadership, it seems there
00:26 has been a dilly-dallying. What's your view on that and do you feel that the government
00:30 will bring in a constitutional amendment to increase that quota limit?
00:33 The caste census also we are demanding since last 40 years. In 2010, we approached Supreme
00:41 Court in the name of Samta Parishad and we say that from 2011, the census will start,
00:54 general census in the country. Ask our union government to take this issue also that let
01:06 them find out how many, what is the percentage of OBC in the country while doing this general
01:14 census. They can do that also. So Supreme Court asked the reply from the central government.
01:23 Meanwhile, as my nephew Samir Bhojbal was a member of parliament, I said, "You are
01:30 a parliamentarian. Why don't you raise your voice on the floor?" So he raised his voice
01:36 and fortunately that time, Gopinath Rao Munde, a little friend, he was a BJP deputy leader,
01:51 he joined hands with Samir. Then both of them, they went and approached various OBC leaders
01:58 like Yadav, then the Mayawati, Akhilesh and congress people and all. 100 MPs, they stood
02:10 on the floor of the house of the parliament and demanded it. Powers have also raised this
02:16 point in the union cabinet and said, "Look, we have to do something." Pranam Mukherjee,
02:25 he announced on the floor of the house that, "Yes, we agreed with this and we will count
02:32 it, we will have the caste census." What happened that instead of doing this by the census commissioner,
02:46 they have planned in such a way that all village census will be done by your rural department,
02:58 state rural and the cities, urban development department of the state government.
03:10 Okay, I said, "Whatever is happening, let it be." All these data were collected.
03:21 By the time they completed this work, it was year 2016, Modi Sahib came in power and the
03:30 data was given to this government, UN government. I remember that at that time also, Varun Jaitley
03:42 Sahib also said that, "We have received this data of these OBCs and definitely they are
03:52 in big problems, facing so many problems." But he did not declare the number of the people
04:02 or the percentile. So that means data remains still unrevealed, right?
04:07 Then in 2017, Samvikas Ahurya went to the Supreme Court and said that these OBCs in
04:16 Maharashtra should not be given reservation because empirical data is not available. Then
04:23 Parnameshwar Sahib, he was chief minister and then he formulated one act and well, but
04:34 then he came to know that empirical data is not there. He asked for the data, central
04:40 government said no. Pankaj Amonde was having that portfolio, minister. He also tried, no.
04:49 Then meanwhile that our Uddhav Thackeray became chief minister, I was also in the ministry.
04:57 We also tried. They said no and the corona started. Two years we could not do it and
05:04 there from the Supreme Court, Khan Vilkar Sahib's court, do it, do it, otherwise no.
05:11 And then we had to take the election in certain district without the reservation of BJP because
05:20 they said no, you don't have data. We don't want to do. Now what happened? Madhya Pradesh
05:30 elections of the local self-government and somebody going to the court and said that
05:37 Maharashtra you have given this judgment. Now what about this? Madhya Pradesh, they
05:43 also don't have it. The court said okay, the same thing, same judgment for you also. And
05:50 then the BJP chief minister Shivraj Chavan Sahib hurriedly approached Delhi people and
05:59 did some study on it and then Tushar Mehta from the central government supported him
06:06 Madhya Pradesh in the Supreme Court. They got the relief. So we also then approached
06:15 the same route and then we also got it. Okay, but we are not fully satisfied because it
06:24 is not 100% we got it. Still some problems are there. But what for this caste census
06:34 is required? Why? Only for political reasons or there are some other reasons also? Look,
06:47 when Sumitra Mahajan, our former speaker of the parliament, when she was not a chairman
06:56 but a parliamentarian, under her leadership some 16 parliamentarians committee was formed.
07:04 Parliamentary standing committee was formed. And they were asked to study the OBC problems.
07:11 They came with the report that OBC they are in bad condition and as union government and
07:19 state government we are funding for this upliftment of the Scheduled Caste or Scheduled Tribe
07:28 and the same way OBC should be given. But since we don't have the data of this OBC,
07:36 the number, we cannot do it. Report submitted and they asked Census Commissioner that you
07:45 provide us the data when we go for the next census. Another committee was formed under
07:53 the leadership of Manmohan Singh Sahab, Kidambaram and Pawar Sahab, they were also the members
08:00 of the committee. Same thing happened. They said, yes, these people should be given financial
08:08 help, their houses, their health problems, their education, their jobs and number of
08:15 things. But we don't have data. Same thing they also asked Census Commissioner, please
08:23 you provide us the data. So, not only for the political reason but for all these reasons,
08:36 day to day problems OBC is facing, their women, they are very much doing hard work, they are
08:47 in the farms, don't have education, don't have good health, number of all these things
08:56 you know, as the other people they are also suffering from. So, we want that data to collect
09:06 and tell the Union Government and State Government, look, now here is the empirical data, here
09:12 is the number, now you provide the funds. That is the main problem.
09:18 So, you are saying that this is not merely just a political issue but this is also a
09:23 must issue to empower and to improve the condition of the OBC.
09:27 Thank you.
09:36 Thank you.
09:37 Thank you.
09:38 Thank you.
09:39 Thank you.
09:40 Thank you.
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