How do we fix the zoo?
Do the benefits of zoos justify the fact that some animals are clearly stressed out?
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00:00- [Reporter] A few months
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undefined:undefineddig into Gaurav's question
00:18in part because as a
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undefined:undefinedas a force for conservation,
00:29protecting endangered species
00:31and making us humans better
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00:44bobbing and swaying,
00:45that indicate
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undefined:undefinedto the zoo and spy on people.
01:10- We watch people and we listen to people
01:13and, you know, pay
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01:29that around primates in particular
01:31visitors will frequently
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undefined:undefinedour circle of empathy.
01:54We might start by only
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undefined:undefinedexperiences in zoos growing up.
02:09- Yeah, absolutely, sometimes
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02:46that the animals in the
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03:03on human attitudes about conservation.
03:07Lucky for me, Emma had
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undefined:undefinedcognitively-complex species,
03:31putting them back out into the
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03:48It takes elephants the same amount of time
03:50to learn how to function
03:51as members of one of the
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undefined:undefinedones you see in zoos
04:10could never join their wild cousins.
04:13This idea of cognitive complexity
04:15was really game-changing for me
04:17as far as, like,
04:18understanding why so few zoo animals
04:22are able to be out in the wild.
04:25- When you were talking about this,
04:26I had a few examples in my head.
04:29I remember seeing
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undefined:undefinedreleasing them in the wild
04:57has been a huge success.
04:59But these programs are incredibly rare.
05:02According to the Association
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undefined:undefinedcognitively-complex animals,
05:32it's really hard for
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undefined:undefinedactions they could think of
05:50that would help save animal species,
05:53then had them do the same thing
05:54after they'd visited the exhibits.
05:57Slightly more people mentioned recycling,
05:59responsible purchasing and diet choices.
06:02But the share of visitors
06:03who mentioned habitat
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undefined:undefinedhave to wildlife sanctuaries
06:44like this one in Tennessee,
06:46they could have more time and space
06:48to threatened species who
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07:07we might need to extend
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undefined:undefineddesign zoo experiences
07:27that people would want
07:29that are based on these different species?
07:33- I used to love going to zoos
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