On Friday, Bartholomew is joined by the Thanet Mustangs Flag Football club following the announcement that the club has been added to the 2028 Olympic Games.
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00:00 Hello and welcome along to Invicta Sport, the only show on your TV dedicated to wrapping
00:17 up all of Kent's sporting action. I'm Bartholomew Hall and here's what to expect on this Friday,
00:22 the 27th of October.
00:24 A new chapter in Kent. Former Wasp legend Kenny Logan says Sevenoaks move will take
00:30 the club back to the top.
00:34 An Olympic-sized future? As flag football has confirmed for the 2028 games, we speak
00:39 to the Thanet club that's been playing for years. Plus, action replay with videos sent
00:44 in by you, the KMTV viewers.
00:47 Hello there. Let's start today with a round-up of the headlines. The head coach of the Invicta
00:52 Dynamoes says it's all about consistency as they return to Gillingham this weekend.
00:58 It's a double game this Saturday for the Moes as they host Oxford City Stars in both the
01:02 National Ice Hockey League, South Division 1, and the League Cup.
01:07 Carl Lennon's side lost 5-2 to the Slough Jets last time out at home on the 1st of October,
01:12 but two weeks later beat the reigning champions Streatham 3-0 away. Lennon says that now the
01:18 team have set the bar high, he'll be expecting bigger and better things as his squad look
01:23 to continue the winning momentum.
01:26 Kent player Zach Crawley has been offered a two-year England central contract.
01:32 The county opener is one of 15 players to be presented with a two-year deal, whilst
01:37 key batsman Joe Root, Harry Brook and Mark Wood have been offered three-year contracts.
01:43 The former Tombridge School pupil was England's top scorer at this year's Ashes series before
01:47 going on to captain England for the first time in last month's three-match ODI series
01:52 against Ireland. Former Kent captain and managing director of England Rob Key says that all
01:57 the players who have been offered a contract will play a pivotal role in England's efforts
02:02 over the next few years.
02:04 On to football now, and Chatham Town has announced the appointment of Keith Boanas as manager
02:11 of the women's first team.
02:13 In a statement the club says the former Charlton Millwall Lionesses, Watford and Estonia manager
02:19 will take up his position at the club immediately. Kevin Hake, chairman, describes Boanas as
02:25 having a passion in how the game should be played, which really stood out when considering
02:30 who it was to take over the role.
02:32 It comes as the women's national league south side has seen a slump in form in recent weeks,
02:36 but looking to resurge, second-bottom Chatham will next take on Cheltenham on 5 November.
02:43 Now as speculation is growing around who will become Gillingham FC's next manager, one name
02:47 that is being repeatedly linked with the role is Crawley Town manager Scott Lindsay. The
02:52 former Gilles player and coach is the man many believe will be the next boss, however
02:57 negotiations with his current club could make things tricky as compensation would need to
03:01 be agreed.
03:02 Gillingham chairman Brad Gallinson has said last week that the club interviewed more than
03:06 20 potential candidates before narrowing them down this week. Meanwhile, interim manager
03:11 Keith Millen says he's been told to prepare for next week's FA Cup game at Hereford.
03:16 "I'm in charge for Saturday, I've been told that, and I've also planned for next week.
03:25 Now if it changes before the Hereford game, it changes. I did say, 'Is that it, Saturday?
03:33 Or is there a chance, if you like?' And they said, 'Yes, definitely prepare for Hereford.'"
03:39 One thing for certain is that Millen will be in the dugout this Saturday as Gillingham
03:43 look to take on 17th place Newport County at home. A win for him would mean three victories
03:48 from five games at the helm. Let's take a look at the rest of the fixtures.
03:55 There we go, slight difficulty there, as I said Gillingham will be taking on Newport
03:59 County this weekend. Hopefully for Keith Millen he'll continue that run of form from the midweek.
04:05 Eibsfleet will welcome Dagenham and Redbridge on Saturday in the National League for what
04:09 will be the 29th meeting between the two sides. Both are going into the weekend after having
04:14 lost on Tuesday night and will be hoping to bounce back with three points.
04:19 In the National South then, no home games for our Kent side. Dover will travel to Farnborough,
04:23 Hemel Hempstead hosts Artford, the Angels are at Truro and Georgie Lakobi's fourth place
04:29 Maidstone United are at Weston as they hope to keep up a good run of form after not having
04:33 lost in the past six games. And no Italy and Premier fixtures this weekend as it's FA Trophy
04:39 week and it's Derby week too as association rivals Chatham Town and Cray Valley are meeting
04:44 on Saturday. Meanwhile another Hyde Town take on East Kent neighbours Gansgate.
04:56 Moving on, this week we heard that Wasps Rugby Football Club has announced its intention
05:00 to move to Kent where it plans to build a new stadium, hotel and training facility.
05:05 The two-time European champions and six-time premiership title holders went into administration
05:10 a year ago and were subsequently relegated. The club's previous base was up in Coventry
05:15 where it moved to in 2014, having spent most of their 156 years in London. It also spent
05:21 some years in Wycombe. However, the club now says it intends to move to Sevenoaks, a move
05:26 which has been described by the district council as a once-in-a-generation move. Well, with
05:30 more on this, I caught up with former Wasps player Kenny Logan earlier in the week.
05:34 Well, Kenny joins me now. Thank you very much for taking the time today and welcome onto
05:38 the show. First of all, this move for Wasps, it's got to be a huge uplift for everybody
05:43 working behind the scenes, especially over what has been quite a tricky 12 months.
05:47 Yeah, thanks for having me on. It's been a very tricky 12 months. We've had to, the club's
05:55 had disappeared, it's trying to come back, try to come back in the championship. But
06:00 I think we've realised over time we need to find a home for this amazing brand. And, you
06:06 know, Sevenoaks have been very welcome to us and Kent, so we just felt this was the
06:11 best place. It's got a great rugby heritage down there, there's a lot of clubs, a lot
06:16 of fans and there's not a club anywhere near. So, we just feel it's a great opportunity
06:20 for us. Absolutely, I was going to get on to talking
06:23 about the location. Obviously, if it does happen, if it all goes through, it looks as
06:29 though Wasps would definitely be the highest profiled rugby club in the county. Why was
06:35 it that Kent became the destination of choice? I think we've done a lot of research on where
06:41 the best, I mean, the thing about Wasps is we've moved around a lot and we need to find
06:46 a home where we can stay for a long, long time and not go through what we've gone through.
06:49 So, we've been looking at different parts of the country and, you know, Kent was somewhere
06:55 that the council approached us and we'd sort of looked at it anyway. And then after that
07:00 we started to look more and more into it and felt this was a really good place for us to
07:05 potentially move to. And do we know at this point any sort of timelines
07:11 when things might be happening and changing? I know at the moment the club is going to
07:14 be staying at the Six Ways ground. Yeah, I mean, at the moment we have to get
07:20 into the league, which we're working on, and that's important. It's at the highest level
07:24 we can. And then we will probably look to get to Kent as soon as we can because that's
07:30 when we start building the fan base and get on with hopefully building this new stadium.
07:36 It's going to be quite exciting for us and also it will be a big opportunity in Kent
07:42 for a big arena to have, you know, not just rugby playing there but other sports. I think
07:49 the key thing to build a successful rugby club now is you need a stadium that rugby
07:54 can be played in, not just a rugby stadium. It needs to be commercially viable for other
07:58 sports and conferences, also concerts and different events. So, that's really important
08:06 moving forward. Absolutely, lots of work to do. But I think
08:09 for the fans as well, especially with where the club has been up in Coventry, I think
08:13 you look around social media, a lot of the fan base has been picked up there now. Is
08:17 there a battle to be won there about convincing those fans to stay on and just put on with
08:23 having to travel down? Yeah, I mean, some fans will travel, some
08:27 won't. I think most fans would be glad that Walsh is coming back than just saying, "Oh,
08:33 well." I think in my view, for a fan now, we've had to go to the place that we think
08:38 is best for the club, best for the fan base. I don't think we're totally welcomed in Coventry
08:44 sometimes and we feel that the best place for us now is to move to Kent. I think for
08:52 the fan, as I said earlier, we're coming back at some stage and this gives the fans hope
08:59 so they can still see the Walsh team perform at the highest level.
09:03 Absolutely, and I think for the fans, as you mentioned, they're going to be more than happy
09:08 to have the club returning. But in terms of the troubles that happened over the past 12
09:13 months, what work now needs to be done to convince that that won't happen again and
09:17 that this is definitely a new chapter for Wasps? Yeah, we need to be... the first point
09:22 of failure is one person owning the club. We need to have multiple owners so if one
09:26 disappears it doesn't affect the club too much. And I think we're in a reasonably good
09:30 position because we're starting afresh. It's a blank piece of paper so we can get things
09:36 right. We're going to connect a lot better with the junior sections and the community.
09:41 I think we've failed in the past on that. And I think also looking at how we can...
09:47 we're close to London, how do we maximise London's potential for a big club like Wasps?
09:53 We were traditionally a London club so we're not far from London. I think that's always
09:58 been... everybody's talked about why are Wasps not back in London. It's very expensive to
10:02 be in London so we need to look at the best place outside it. We could be looking at potentially
10:08 25 minutes away on the train to watch first-class rugby and that's exciting. But it's a long
10:14 way. We've got a lot of... still got to bring other people in to help us take it to the
10:19 next level but we're getting there every week and this is again something exciting for us
10:23 to get moving and give the fans some hope knowing that the Wasps are going to come back
10:29 at some stage. Absolutely. Well, once again Kenny, thank you for joining us today. Just
10:33 before we wrap up, for yourself, Wasps are such an instrumental part to your career,
10:39 winning three premierships with them. What does Wasps mean to you as a former player
10:44 and especially this next chapter? I think Wasps gave me a lot of good friendship, not
10:50 just winning trophies and being successful. We're very lucky, over the years I was there
10:56 and won about nine trophies. I think we had a lot of good friendships and a lot of great
11:01 fans. Wasps is never about the place, to be honest, it's about the people around it because
11:07 Wasps moved around so much. We weren't like Leicester or Newcastle or Northampton, places
11:13 that are cities. We've had to move around and we're lucky that we could do that because
11:18 we're called Wasps. I think going forward, we've always said it's about the people around
11:24 us. I think for me, I was just very lucky to be around great people and a great club.
11:28 It means a lot to me, it means a lot to other people and we just had the opportunity to
11:33 try and bring it back with Christopher Hollands and Peter Scrivener and Robert Dauvant. So
11:38 I think it's a tight group of people and that group will get bigger and bigger as we go
11:42 along the journey. Absolutely. I think for rugby in general, it's such a positive story
11:47 to see this next chapter and so much positivity as we say. Well, Kenny, thank you very much
11:52 for joining us. Thank you.
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14:58 Hello and welcome back to Invicta Sport, live on KMTV. Now, it's time to say hello to our
15:12 next guest this evening. But first, a quick word on the Olympics. That's right. We've
15:16 recently heard which new sports will be added to the games in Los Angeles in 2028. Baseball,
15:22 T20 cricket, lacrosse, squash and a non-contact version of American football known as flag
15:29 football. Those have all been added. Well, the Thonet Mustangs have been playing that
15:34 one final one, flag football, since the pandemic. They say that they hope that now it has Olympic
15:40 recognition, the game will have legs to grow here in the UK. Well, joining me in just a
15:44 few moments is the Thonet Mustangs coach Phil Cartwright and player Dana Kelheller, who
15:49 represented Team GB at the U17s European Junior Championship in Italy this summer. Well, we'll
15:55 be speaking to them in just a minute, but let's take a little look at the highlights
15:57 from when we came down to meet them.
15:59 You better not be the one to doubt us. Cause we've been putting in the mouth. We only taking
16:25 what was ours. So you better not be the one to doubt us.
16:38 Well I'm joined by the Thonet Mustangs now. Thank you very much for coming and welcome
16:42 to Invicta Sport. Really good to have you on. Looks like a lot of fun, flag football.
16:46 Tell me how it all came about. How did flag football and Thonet Mustangs come into your
16:51 life, Phil?
16:52 About five or six years ago, my son was looking for a new sport, a new team sport to help
16:57 him and we found a club in Canterbury and they were playing flag football. I then got
17:03 into coaching and he was home educated at the time and we live in Thonet. So we started
17:09 coaching for home educated kids. That was about four or five years ago. And then coming
17:14 out of lockdown, we started Thonet Mustangs.
17:17 And I've got to ask, Thonet Mustangs, where did the name come from?
17:21 Okay, so the team in Canterbury is the East Kent Mavericks. So the Mustangs was like an
17:26 association with the Mavericks because now the Mavericks are a contact team that play
17:31 full contact American football and we are a flag team. So they're kind of like a sister
17:35 club for us so that kids that want to then eventually play contact can go to the EK Mavericks.
17:41 Absolutely. And we saw a clip there of you guys playing in one of your training sessions.
17:46 Can you just explain for somebody that doesn't quite understand it, I know we've spoken a
17:49 little bit just then, but what is flag football?
17:52 So basically it's a total non-contact version of the sport and we play at our club, the
17:58 youth version. So we provide training for youths between eight and 17 years old, but
18:04 adults play as well. It's five a side, like I said, it's non-contact. So instead of tackling,
18:10 you would wear a belt with flags and you pulled a flag and that's where play stops rather
18:14 than taking people to the floor.
18:16 Absolutely and it sounds like a lot of fun. I mean, American football is not usually this
18:20 kind of traditional sport you see in the UK, but we're kind of seeing the rise at the moment,
18:23 aren't we? In the Tottenham Stadium, they're obviously hosting some of the games from America,
18:28 the NFL games that are coming over. Have you kind of seen that since you started, the rise
18:33 in popularity?
18:34 Definitely. I mean, myself, I've been going to the UK games for quite a few years now
18:39 because they have them at Wembley as well, but I think that says everything, like what
18:42 you said about now the Tottenham Stadium, the NFL helping to build Tottenham Stadium
18:46 and they take the pitch out and put the NFL pitch in. And I think it's also to do with
18:52 how inclusive the sport is. So with an NFL game, it's a day out. It's not so much just
19:00 you go for your an hour or 90 minutes, you're there for the whole day and as a family or
19:05 with friends, teammates, etc. Yeah, it's definitely growing, definitely.
19:11 And talk to me about your own story then. How did you get in touch with the Planet Mustangs?
19:15 So at the time, I recently quit playing rugby, which I loved as well, and a friend actually
19:21 introduced me to the sport. And it was one of those things where the first time that
19:26 you do it, you're just like, oh my God, I want to play again. I want to come back, all
19:29 this and that. And then two years later, I've been playing the sport for four years. I'm
19:34 now a GB player and it's just...
19:36 Absolutely. And I've got to ask about that as well, going to Italy, I believe, to play
19:40 in the European Championship. What was that like, being chosen to represent your country?
19:46 It was a bit mental because we got told three months beforehand. So I had three months to
19:54 prepare and train and all this. And then I got told two weeks before. We had a bit of
20:01 mix up with being chosen. So only two weeks before, we were meant to be flying out, I
20:06 got told that I was going to be going. So it was a crazy couple of weeks trying to prepare
20:12 and then going to Italy, it was just mental. I can't stand that. It's just a really crazy
20:19 thing to do. Like nothing I could have ever imagined it would be like. We have all the
20:23 different countries and people there and culture. It was crazy.
20:27 That's fantastic. And to come away with gold as well, you've got to be proud of yourself.
20:31 I didn't get gold.
20:32 Oh, OK. All right. Sorry. Apologies there. But no, how did the games actually go then?
20:37 Tell me about the kind of results and the games you played.
20:40 So we played six games, I believe. On the first day, we won both of our games. And then
20:48 after that, the second day, we had a bit of an incident with one of the countries. And
20:53 we lost both of our games that day. And then I think the final game, the whole of the Under
20:58 15s team were just a bit down. And I think we weren't in the right headspace and we lost
21:04 our further two games. But no one really cared about that at the end. It was just a good
21:10 experience and it doesn't matter.
21:11 You all seem like such a close group as well, the team all together. And it's quite an inclusive
21:15 sport as well.
21:16 Oh, yeah, really very much. I mean, that's what I think got my son so into it initially.
21:22 Girls and boys play together right up to the age of 17 in this country. And it's a bit
21:29 of a weird thing to say, but the inclusivity also goes as far as like you not necessarily
21:34 like the sport, traditionally sporty kids or children that excel. I mean, there is a
21:40 space for everyone. And because the teams are so small, because it's five a side, what
21:44 I've found is you don't really get children and players sort of standing and watching
21:49 the play happening. There's only five of you and you're all accountable. And it really,
21:53 really helps to create that bonding and team mentality.
21:56 Absolutely. And talk to me about, you're currently working on a bit of a project alongside doing
22:03 the club, about fundraising for the club.
22:05 Yeah, we've got a crowd funder. We've got a crowd fund Kent going on at the moment.
22:10 So basically when we started, because we're based in Cliftonville in Thanet and it's an
22:14 area of multiple deprivation, my main goal was to make sure that any child or young person
22:21 that wanted to play could play regardless of their income for want of a better term.
22:26 And especially now with the cost of living crisis. So we're raising money so that we
22:29 can provide free training, free memberships, free kit, free healthy post-match food and
22:36 a warm space where they can eat that.
22:37 That sounds fantastic. And have you got a kind of a goal in mind? I know that with that
22:41 scheme, the money will be doubled if you reach where you want to go.
22:44 Well, yeah, basically through crowd fund Kent. So if you go, if you went to our website,
22:49 thanetmustangs.org, on the front page there, it tells you everything that we're trying
22:54 to get money for and it gives you links of where to go to and KCC and the NHS, they could
22:59 possibly match fund. If they like what you're doing and they feel that children would benefit
23:05 from it, they can match fund whatever you raise. So yeah, fingers crossed.
23:09 Fantastic. Tell me a bit about, you know, just quickly before we wrap up, what kind
23:13 of competitions have you got coming up at the moment? What's on the horizon for the
23:17 club?
23:18 Well, it's funny you should mention that. Myself and six, seven other coaches from South
23:24 East teams, we're just in the process at the moment of creating a South East league for
23:28 next year.
23:29 Oh, fantastic.
23:30 So we'll all go to each other's and have mini bowls for want of a better term. So it's like
23:35 a proper competition day, three age ranges, under 11s, under 14s and under 17s. And yeah,
23:41 so next year, starting from March through to the end of July, we've got about eight
23:46 or nine tournaments lined up. And plus obviously the GB away days and stuff like that.
23:52 And I mean, now it's an Olympic sport as well. Just quickly before we go, maybe Team GB one
23:56 day for yourself or some of your teammates?
24:01 Possibly.
24:02 Definitely.
24:03 Definitely. All right. Thank you very much for joining us.
24:04 Thank you.
24:05 We'll be sure to keep in touch with you.
24:06 Thank you very much.
24:07 Now we've reached full time on today's episode, but there's just a few minutes of extra time
24:10 to watch this week's action replay. It's the segment where we show you clips and pics sent
24:15 in by people taking part in sport from across the county.
24:18 Hello and welcome to this week's action replay. And today we're taking a trip to Sevenoaks,
24:25 where Kent Online reporter Keely Greenwood has decided to try out a game of bat and trap.
24:31 This old fashioned pub game is more than 280 years old. It's said to have first been played
24:37 right here in the county. The game is played by two teams. Where the batter will hit the
24:42 trap to send the ball flying upwards, they must then hit the ball out to the fielders,
24:47 who have to try and throw it back and hit the wicket at the front of the trap. With
24:52 plenty of beer and banter present, Keely says she very quickly started to see the appeal.
24:58 Next up and following on from appearing on last week's Invictus Sport, the very first
25:02 Cross Park Charity Cup was held in All Hallows over the weekend and to much great success.
25:08 Featuring six teams with punny names such as Oldman Athletic and Pathletico Madrid,
25:14 perhaps the most ironic name was expected to lose, which took home the cup after not
25:19 losing a single game.
25:21 The event raised a total of £1,300 with the funds split between Last Chance Animal Rescue
25:28 and children's charity the Red Eagle Foundation.
25:32 And finally, here we have the boys from St Michael's Prep School from Otford, who fought
25:36 resiliently to win a community football tournament of their own.
25:40 Competing against five other schools in a round-robin format, the Year 5 and 6 group
25:45 made it all the way to the final, where a tense extra time period saw playmaker Cole
25:50 break free from his defender and slot home the winning goal for St Michael's.
25:55 Well a very big well done to those boys.
25:58 That's it today for this week's Action Replay, and don't forget, if you're from Kent and
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26:06 just be you here next week.
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26:15 you absolutely can.
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26:20 to our email address, sport@kmtv.co.uk.
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26:41 Well from me, I'll be back on Monday with another episode.
26:43 Goodbye for now.
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