Political attitudes changed before the "Elections"
Political attitudes changed before the "Elections"
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00:00 the current situation.
00:05 So, at this time, the Muslim League, Noon and People's Party
00:08 have a political disagreement, which we used to talk about
00:11 a few days ago.
00:12 And it is a great honor for us anchors that a few days ago
00:15 we were talking about how the Noon League and People's Party
00:18 are seen on the same page.
00:21 And in the matters of each other, I used to remember that
00:24 when Noon League's guests did not meet,
00:27 how the People's Party members used to represent them.
00:30 And they were very well-respected.
00:32 We used to ask them, "Won't it happen that you will again
00:35 go back to the politics of the 90s, the same rhetoric?"
00:38 They said, "No, we have learned a lot from history.
00:41 It won't happen now, we have matured."
00:43 The history that they learned from has passed.
00:46 So now the temperament, style, emotions, everything has changed.
00:49 Now the allegations and reservations are being expressed.
00:51 And the Chairman of the People's Party now says that
00:53 the Noon League members are experts in being selected.
00:56 And that we have a strong relationship with the public
00:58 and with a selection committee of the Noon League.
01:00 That's a very strong statement.
01:02 So the most demanded level playing field of the People's Party
01:06 is the one that Mr. Bilawal has stated.
01:09 That we have a strong relationship with a selection committee
01:12 and with the public.
01:14 So this is a very strong statement, as Ashfaq has said.
01:17 And who did he give this statement about?
01:19 That too in front of everyone.
01:21 So we will talk about all this.
01:23 We have a lot of people with us.
01:26 Khawar, the People's Party is getting more and more angry.
01:29 And it's getting more and more violent.
01:31 Now the matter has come to this.
01:33 Earlier, it was just a matter of level playing field.
01:35 The kind of protocol that was given,
01:37 there was a lot of criticism on that.
01:39 They say, "We never got a special treatment."
01:41 But now that they are saying that we are in contact with the public,
01:45 they may have a connection with a selection committee.
01:47 So will these allegations continue to grow, Khawar?
01:50 As far as the Pakistan People's Party is concerned,
01:53 I have a few observations on this.
01:56 I have seen the politics of the Pakistan People's Party in recent years.
02:00 As far as the Pakistan People's Party is concerned,
02:03 Chairman Asif Ali Zardari
02:05 does not make a clear narrative or statement on this issue.
02:11 That the Pakistan People's Party
02:13 is actually trying to separate from the Pakistan Muslim League.
02:18 Are there any differences between them?
02:20 Are there any differences in the people's party and the non-league?
02:27 Because in the past, you saw,
02:29 at different times, Bilawal Bhutto Zardari used to give very harsh statements.
02:33 But later we saw that Asif Ali Zardari used to say
02:37 that he is still young, he is learning politics.
02:40 And there is always a dispute in politics.
02:43 Therefore, the Pakistan People's Party's second and third year leadership
02:49 is giving different statements on the non-league.
02:51 And they should be taken as a political issue.
02:54 Yes, if Asif Ali Zardari does a press conference,
02:59 a big press conference,
03:00 and there, one, two, three, four,
03:02 like in the past, he gave speeches on the non-league leadership
03:05 in the Jalsas, he did some press conferences.
03:08 So when someone talks about such things,
03:11 in the coming days, in the coming months,
03:15 then we will know that the Pakistan People's Party is really...
03:18 But there is a difference, Mr. Khabar, I agree that it is like that.
03:21 But when the statement of the chairman of the People's Party,
03:24 Bilawal Bhutto,
03:26 and especially pointing to the selection committee
03:29 and saying that our contact is with the public,
03:31 that itself is a very serious statement.
03:34 Because it is not coming from any other leader.
03:36 Obviously, there are other big leaders of the party
03:38 who can be given this task, who can perform well.
03:41 There are many such people in the People's Party.
03:43 But if the chairman is talking about this, then that matters.
03:45 And will it affect the upcoming elections?
03:47 Yes, obviously, because the election alliance is not there yet.
03:50 Mr. Sadiq, every day is a new day in politics.
03:53 I am talking about that pattern.
03:55 It is not a matter of PDM being far away,
03:57 it is a matter of the days of the PDM government.
03:59 Now the PDM government is going to be formed, you will remember.
04:01 The first part of the PDM was the People's Party,
04:03 then the People's Party became more than the PDM.
04:06 You will remember that Mr. Zardari had some statements
04:10 that there is one political party that is getting itself selected.
04:14 We are elected, we are selected.
04:16 You will remember this.
04:17 No, Sadaf and I were also discussing
04:19 that when we took someone as a guest,
04:22 the People's Party people thought it was their responsibility
04:25 to defend the position of the Noon League,
04:27 whether it was related to the economy or something else.
04:29 Exactly, exactly.
04:30 After that, we saw that in the parliament,
04:33 in the National Assembly, the pleasantries that were exchanged,
04:37 that this is our PM,
04:39 Mr. Shabaz Sharif's statement about Mr. Zardari,
04:43 Mr. Shabaz Sharif said,
04:44 give us that leader, he fits very well in our party,
04:48 such things.
04:49 Therefore, since we have to go towards the election,
04:51 we have to tell people, look, we are very good,
04:53 they are not good, we can do better for you,
04:56 they are not good at all.
04:58 So you will see such statements.
05:00 Yes, the Pakistan People's Party is actually going to be more than the Noon League.
05:05 Because two or three days ago you must have seen the news
05:08 that Mr. Nawaz Sharif and Mr. Asim Ali Zardari had contacted on the telephone.
05:14 Therefore, all this ...
05:16 And Bilawar also told him that the news was given when Nawaz Sharif came on 21st October.
05:22 This news is being given now.
05:24 So here too we saw that Bilawar Alakar ji was trying to dilute this statement
05:29 and one more thing,
05:31 Bilawar says about the statement of respect for the vote that
05:34 when the Noon League left, it changed,
05:36 so now it is difficult to go with them.
05:38 So what are the expectations of the People's Party from the Noon League?
05:41 And what does the People's Party want to do?
05:43 What is their statement?
05:45 Look, I will repeat what I have come to it again.
05:49 I don't consider it a big deal.
05:51 Until and unless Mr. Asif Ali Zardari talks about it,
05:54 as far as the statement of respect for the vote is concerned,
05:56 Pakistan Muslim League,
05:58 in the Noon League, in Punjab,
06:00 the way the Noon League has come back to the country,
06:04 the way the People's Party's demands regarding the level playing field are in front of everyone,
06:09 I can see it too.
06:11 And these things will move forward.
06:13 But as I have said,
06:15 in the coming days, you will see some changes in the politics of Pakistan.
06:19 Because the election has been postponed.
06:22 You will see new candidates in the elections.
06:25 You will see candidates who are in opposition.
06:27 In the coming days, the election commission's decisions will be made.
06:30 The President of Pakistan has also written a letter,
06:32 asking Allah to talk to the level playing field.
06:34 Which is currently a bad government.
06:36 So let's see what happens.
06:38 But at the moment,
06:40 this is the first round of the elections.
06:42 In the first round, as yesterday,
06:44 Mr. Zardari was asked a question.
06:46 He said, "Once the elections are over,
06:48 we will see."
06:50 Don't overlook one thing.
06:52 Recently, Mr. Zardari said that
06:55 we can adjust the seats with the political parties
06:58 that are included in the PDM government.
07:02 So, it won't be a matter of shame for me
07:05 that we will be a group of people's party.
07:07 Absolutely.
07:09 But tell me one thing.
07:12 Before talking to other parties,
07:15 it is very important for the party to be strong from within.
07:17 And we were talking about
07:19 how the angry leaders like Haqqan Abbasi
07:21 will try to convince them.
07:23 Why is there such a hard line?
07:25 And secondly,
07:27 Mr. Mian's Jalsa was very great.
07:30 But he is not as active as he was before.
07:33 Is this a wise move?
07:35 Mr. Zardari,
07:37 your question has two answers.
07:39 One is that, Pakistan Muslim League Noon
07:41 means Nawaz Sharif.
07:43 Whatever Nawaz Sharif decides,
07:45 whatever he says, will happen.
07:47 And if we look at the Pakistan People's Party,
07:50 Mr. Asif Ali Zardari has the authority
07:52 to make all the decisions.
07:54 And he will decide what will happen next.
07:57 As far as the Noon League Jalsas are concerned,
07:59 you know that there is a meeting
08:01 in Lahore,
08:03 which is being held now.
08:05 The meeting of the Executive Council
08:07 was also cancelled.
08:09 We have news that
08:11 people are being told
08:13 that the Lahore Jalsa
08:15 was held in a very strict manner.
08:17 There was a lot of hard work behind it.
08:19 People from all over Pakistan
08:21 have gathered.
08:23 You will see some stories on that day.
08:25 People came from outside.
08:27 No one came out of Lahore.
08:29 Lahore is considered the home
08:31 of Pakistan Muslim League Noon.
08:33 Our program was also given
08:35 by Mr. Abdul Ghulam Sain,
08:37 that the leadership of the Noon League,
08:39 especially the Sharif family,
08:41 does not have any support
08:43 from the people of Lahore.
08:45 So, they have to find
08:47 a strong and safe environment
08:49 for themselves
08:51 from where they can fight the elections.
08:53 So, the on-ground
08:55 response of the people
08:57 is being seen
08:59 every day,
09:01 every week.
09:03 Let's see what conditions
09:05 develop in the coming days
09:07 and how all the parties
09:09 will motivate their voters and supporters.
09:11 I'm not sure where I can give a speech at Jalsa. Thank you so much Mr. Khabar Kuhman for giving us a glimpse of the Mogh.