CAM'RON & MA$E SAY DMX WAS BETTER THAN TUPAC
Wallo267 | Million Dollaz Worth of Game
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00:00:00 I now tuned into me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me,
00:00:03 million dollars worth of game.
00:00:04 I'm gonna tell you some real funny stuff, right?
00:00:06 - What?
00:00:06 - Listen man, we got Harlem's finest up here,
00:00:08 but first I gotta tell you some funny stuff.
00:00:09 And I think I'm gonna laugh at Cam and Mase about this too.
00:00:12 A week ago I asked Gil, I said,
00:00:14 "Cuz, did you really think like you was going to the NBA
00:00:17 "or was you just balling?"
00:00:18 He said, "Yeah, dead serious."
00:00:20 That was the funniest shit I heard like in all my life.
00:00:24 'Cause I never thought that he would ever throw,
00:00:26 I'm thinking like, he just playing ball.
00:00:27 I'm like, "Cuz is four nine and a half."
00:00:31 You know what I mean?
00:00:32 With some (beep) with Timbs on.
00:00:33 And so I said, "Yo, did Cam and Mase think that shit too?
00:00:38 (laughing)
00:00:39 "Did they think they was going pro?"
00:00:41 I'm like, "Hold up, hold up, hold up."
00:00:43 'Cause I know dudes around the way just be balling.
00:00:45 I'm like, "Did these dudes really think?"
00:00:47 'Cause I said, "Gil said, yeah, I knew I was."
00:00:49 I said, "Gil, you paid for like a D3 college."
00:00:53 That shit was like North Philly University of--
00:00:56 - You said he went to college in a strip mall.
00:00:58 - Yeah, that too.
00:00:59 That's what I'm saying.
00:00:59 It was like a little small joint.
00:01:01 Back then they didn't have online,
00:01:02 but that would have been an online college.
00:01:04 - The (beep) get out of here.
00:01:04 (laughing)
00:01:05 - So listen, he gonna tell me,
00:01:08 I got, he would say, "I got offers from,"
00:01:10 he said, "North of down."
00:01:11 I said, "Bro, you went to a local college.
00:01:14 "You didn't get offers from us."
00:01:14 - But you told him the importance of SATs.
00:01:17 - Yeah, yeah, SATs was crazy though.
00:01:19 - Yeah.
00:01:20 - Nah, it was crazy. - Where did you score on it?
00:01:22 - 660.
00:01:24 - We, no, you know what's crazy?
00:01:26 Nah, I'm glad you brought SATs up, bro.
00:01:28 This (beep) act like he got a 1550 on SATs.
00:01:33 That's what I say, yo, man.
00:01:35 - Why you didn't go to college, man?
00:01:36 - Cut it out, man.
00:01:37 - Why you didn't go to no school?
00:01:38 Like, y'all was neighborhood basketball players.
00:01:40 - This (beep) Mason tell you,
00:01:42 he got left back to chill with me.
00:01:44 (laughing)
00:01:46 - I stay in action, you (beep)
00:01:50 - 'Cause that's how cool he was with me.
00:01:53 But I say, Tequilla's not lying.
00:01:54 - Them SATs was no joke.
00:01:56 - So what offers you got?
00:01:57 What offers y'all got?
00:01:58 - I got offers, Georgetown, Long Beach, USC.
00:02:02 The whole thing is though, when we lost,
00:02:04 like my senior year, we went 23 and 0
00:02:06 and lost in the first round.
00:02:08 I never went back to school.
00:02:10 Like, I was that depressed.
00:02:11 I went to Albany and started selling weed
00:02:13 'cause my baby, I didn't have a baby,
00:02:15 my girlfriend at the time, she's a year older than me,
00:02:18 and she was in Albany.
00:02:19 So I just went up there after that and started selling weed
00:02:21 and kind of never went to school again.
00:02:23 But then I started thinking like,
00:02:25 damn, I got to get ready to go to school.
00:02:27 But I was good enough for them to put me
00:02:28 in a junior college 'cause I didn't graduate.
00:02:31 I didn't take the SATs.
00:02:32 I just was like, they'll figure it out.
00:02:34 'Cause if you good good, they'll figure it out.
00:02:37 - Yeah, right.
00:02:38 - So y'all wasn't that good then?
00:02:39 - Yeah.
00:02:40 - They wasn't that good?
00:02:41 - Yeah, you're looking at it.
00:02:43 - Get the (beep) out of here.
00:02:44 - No, no, yo, let me tell you something,
00:02:45 I swear to God, I told Maseys, I said,
00:02:48 I didn't really know basketball
00:02:50 'til I stopped playing basketball
00:02:51 'cause I'm too emotionally invested in it.
00:02:54 You see, like, when you sit there and watch other players,
00:02:56 you'll sit there and be like,
00:02:57 yo, this (beep) want to fight.
00:02:58 This (beep) like dumb.
00:03:00 Yo, this (beep) carrying guns.
00:03:01 But you may have done all that,
00:03:03 but I don't know what the excuse is today,
00:03:04 but in the '90s playing basketball,
00:03:06 you have to know how to fight and play basketball.
00:03:08 You know what I'm saying?
00:03:09 It's a different story 'cause we watch an NBA (beep)
00:03:11 fight and play basketball.
00:03:13 So when you stop playing ball,
00:03:15 you can sit down and really look at how basketball
00:03:18 is supposed to be played.
00:03:19 A real basketball player most likely been playing
00:03:22 since they was eight or nine years old.
00:03:24 So you're that emotionally invested.
00:03:25 So to Gil's point, yes, we all thought we was going to the NBA.
00:03:29 - Yo, go ahead, Gil, I'll ask you a question.
00:03:30 Did you think you was going to jail?
00:03:34 - No, I didn't think that.
00:03:35 See, but I didn't think that.
00:03:36 - But you did.
00:03:37 - I knew I was going to have it, but I didn't think that.
00:03:39 But, you know, at the end of the day,
00:03:42 I just thought that was the funniest shit I heard.
00:03:44 'Cause you're 4'11".
00:03:45 - I'm a hood legend.
00:03:46 - Man, you're 4'11" with two batons on.
00:03:48 Like, I respect your neighborhood basketball game.
00:03:51 You got neighborhood, this is like this.
00:03:52 You got neighborhood rappers and you got two-star rappers.
00:03:55 (laughing)
00:03:57 The song don't translate into the,
00:03:59 it don't translate regional.
00:04:01 You ain't had no regional game.
00:04:02 - You a hater, man.
00:04:03 - It wasn't like dudes in Jersey or Baltimore,
00:04:06 DC knew about your game.
00:04:07 - Hold on, bro.
00:04:08 We said, we had Rasheed Wallace on here,
00:04:10 a mother that I played against in high school,
00:04:13 with in high school, made every all-star team,
00:04:17 played everywhere.
00:04:18 What you talking about?
00:04:19 He said, "No, Gil, was that."
00:04:20 - You and (beep) used to smoke Reggie together
00:04:22 behind the high school.
00:04:23 (laughing)
00:04:24 It don't count.
00:04:25 Y'all was smoking Reggie, drinking 40s.
00:04:27 Like, come on, man, like that?
00:04:29 - Everybody we bump into, tell you,
00:04:30 Will Parks, his dad, who I played against in high school,
00:04:34 said, "No, Gil, was that."
00:04:35 - His dad was a pro.
00:04:36 - Starting at the legendary,
00:04:37 started at the legendary Benjamin Franklin High School.
00:04:40 We sent everybody to the proofs first.
00:04:42 - Bro, bro, bro.
00:04:43 - We did that.
00:04:44 I started at the legendary,
00:04:46 started at the legendary coach, Kenny Hamilton,
00:04:48 Hall of Fame, right, I started.
00:04:50 - But listen, listen, family--
00:04:51 - So why nobody take that SAT for you?
00:04:53 - That's what I'm saying, he wasn't good.
00:04:54 - I mean, back then, we wasn't, you know,
00:04:56 we wasn't really up on that (beep) like that.
00:04:57 We just knew, we had to take it, all right,
00:04:59 (beep) you, give me the test.
00:05:00 - How many years did you start?
00:05:03 - Three.
00:05:04 - Okay, so for instance, a sophomore, you started?
00:05:06 - What we talking about?
00:05:08 - Say three, no, I'm talking about you, three.
00:05:10 - I'm not talking about you, what we talking about?
00:05:11 - No, no, Maxie.
00:05:12 - How many years you started?
00:05:14 - Four.
00:05:14 - Ooh!
00:05:16 - Well, I didn't go to Franklin
00:05:17 and the Friends of Freshman.
00:05:18 I got kicked out of another school,
00:05:20 and then I went to Franklin.
00:05:21 - Yeah, but I started all four years, since a freshman.
00:05:25 - Can you vouch for that, Mace?
00:05:28 - I only played with him three years, boss.
00:05:31 - And you was older than him, Max.
00:05:32 You was 22 when I was going to college, right?
00:05:35 (laughing)
00:05:37 - Who was, who was--
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00:06:49 Who was the raw, I'm talking about the,
00:06:51 had the greatest game that never made it in Harlem?
00:06:54 That was, I'm talking about, was a monster,
00:06:58 like, that could've went to the league.
00:07:00 - Ally Moe.
00:07:01 - Ally Moe.
00:07:02 Ally Moe, 100%.
00:07:03 - Give him a little bit of mace.
00:07:04 - Ally Moe.
00:07:05 - Ally Moe, 100% Ally Moe.
00:07:07 - Where he at?
00:07:08 - He died.
00:07:09 - Passed away.
00:07:10 - Rest in peace.
00:07:11 - Yeah, nah.
00:07:12 - From the Airborne, in the Airborne.
00:07:14 - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:07:15 - They give you fresh, don't do 'em no justice.
00:07:17 Six, seven, six, eight point guard,
00:07:20 best nigga I've seen, like,
00:07:22 probably from Harlem, I would say, period.
00:07:24 Pro or not pro.
00:07:26 I'm saying that thing, 'cause you know,
00:07:27 somebody asked me about, you know,
00:07:29 Sham, Sham guards out, he from my neighborhood.
00:07:32 So they asked us, like, who would you take,
00:07:34 Sham or Ally Moe?
00:07:35 And I was like, Sham was a monster, too,
00:07:37 but if you got a six, nine point guard
00:07:40 that does everything.
00:07:41 I'm talking about a 2.0 Magic Johnson.
00:07:44 Like, I'd have to say Ally Moe.
00:07:46 - You know, I'm one of them hip hop--
00:07:49 - I'm gonna say Sad Eye, from Philly.
00:07:51 - Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was a beast.
00:07:53 Well, before I messed my ACL up,
00:07:54 I was in the--
00:07:55 - Get the fuck outta here.
00:07:56 - What?
00:07:57 - I seen you on them crazy--
00:07:58 - Nasty.
00:07:59 - You seen it?
00:08:00 - You're nasty.
00:08:01 - I seen Gil, I seen Gil carrying you
00:08:03 in them two on twos.
00:08:04 - He's nasty.
00:08:06 - I had to put, I come in there and file people.
00:08:08 - I'm saying, you--
00:08:09 - You come in and file them.
00:08:10 - That's my job.
00:08:11 - You play like Dennis Rodman and shit.
00:08:13 - That's my game.
00:08:14 - You Greek freak brother.
00:08:15 - Yeah, yeah.
00:08:15 - Oh, hey, listen, I don't know nothing about this.
00:08:17 I just know that they not that good.
00:08:20 - They got a lot of effort.
00:08:22 - They not that good.
00:08:23 - They got a lot of effort and energy.
00:08:24 I heard about that.
00:08:26 Now, why is it that, listen, y'all paying,
00:08:29 y'all three, 'cause y'all really like sports,
00:08:32 I'm a neck dudes, y'all paying.
00:08:34 I'm talking about this powerful out here
00:08:37 when it comes to these athletes.
00:08:39 I be seeing all three of y'all.
00:08:40 If any one of y'all say something about an athlete,
00:08:43 and y'all be right with what y'all saying,
00:08:45 they get in they feelings.
00:08:46 What's going on?
00:08:47 Why y'all opinions is stronger
00:08:48 than the sports network's opinions?
00:08:51 What is that about?
00:08:52 - It's because when they're saying it,
00:08:55 it mess you up corporately,
00:08:57 but when we said it, it don't just hit corporate.
00:09:01 It hit the hood as well.
00:09:02 It hit the streets as well.
00:09:03 So it's one thing for somebody to say you're not good,
00:09:06 that you never got to see them,
00:09:08 but when Gil said, I said, or Killer said,
00:09:11 it's like these are the niggas that,
00:09:14 this is going to matter when I go back to the block.
00:09:17 You know what I'm saying?
00:09:17 So it knocks out their cool factor a little bit.
00:09:21 - And not only that, to add on to what Mase is saying,
00:09:23 it's like, yo,
00:09:24 niggas fucked with us on the music coming up.
00:09:28 So they like, damn, this is what I fucked with.
00:09:31 And look, we got to deal with that
00:09:34 as entertainers or rappers too, though.
00:09:36 The album was whack.
00:09:37 Yo, that's the King, you ain't better than this.
00:09:39 Or Cam, you ain't ho, Gilly, you ain't Wayne.
00:09:44 This the, we got to deal with that too.
00:09:46 And we got to eat that.
00:09:47 - And you ain't Ricky Minaj.
00:09:48 You heard this shit.
00:09:49 (laughing)
00:09:50 They told you to end up in jail.
00:09:52 You ain't never beat Kevin Estelle, you know what I'm saying?
00:09:55 - So at Hurt's Lane, I'll give you a great example.
00:09:58 So one of these players, I can't remember who,
00:10:01 they said, yo, I'm from the era where Paul George used to go.
00:10:07 So I did an episode, we like,
00:10:10 Paul George is the GOAT, like of goats, of all goats.
00:10:13 I'm so upset, I said, shorty, you smoking.
00:10:17 I don't know what the fuck you talking,
00:10:17 I like Paul George, but is he the GOAT?
00:10:20 Nah, he not the GOAT.
00:10:21 Making a long story short, a month later, fast forward,
00:10:24 Macy, Paul George in the casino out in Vegas out here.
00:10:29 - He ran down.
00:10:30 - He ran down.
00:10:30 Why I can't be the GOAT?
00:10:31 Why I can't be the GOAT?
00:10:33 What's up with that?
00:10:34 I can't be the GOAT?
00:10:35 So, like you said--
00:10:37 - I don't know, but what did Macy say?
00:10:39 - Macy?
00:10:40 - I called Cam.
00:10:41 - He called me Cam.
00:10:41 (laughing)
00:10:43 - He ain't called Cam.
00:10:43 - He ain't called Cam, killer.
00:10:44 - He ain't called Cam, killer.
00:10:46 - Yeah, right.
00:10:46 - He ain't called Cam, killer.
00:10:48 George said, why he can't be the GOAT?
00:10:49 - He said, I got a question, killer.
00:10:51 Paul George said, why he can't be the GOAT, killer?
00:10:54 - I told him, I said, you know what?
00:10:56 I said, all right, you the GOAT, my nigga.
00:10:58 - Yeah.
00:10:59 - Then he did some dumb shit two weeks later,
00:11:01 I said, I gotta take it back.
00:11:02 No, he said some lie.
00:11:02 - How you gonna take his GOAT shit back?
00:11:04 - He said something about Larry Bird dick pause.
00:11:07 I said, I'm taking it away, GOAT.
00:11:09 - What?
00:11:10 - Yeah, it wasn't even basketball related
00:11:13 why I took his GOAT shit away.
00:11:15 It was some wow shit he said.
00:11:16 I said, just for that, I gotta take you
00:11:18 from not being the GOAT.
00:11:19 No, I put you as the GOAT for two weeks.
00:11:21 Now you not the GOAT.
00:11:22 But he had a podcast, it's funny too.
00:11:24 Shout out to Paul George.
00:11:25 - Now--
00:11:26 - No, hold on, fuck that, though.
00:11:27 You know, that's five questions in a row.
00:11:29 I gotta put this out there,
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00:13:02 Right.
00:13:03 You know, and that was the moment I realized,
00:13:07 like damn, Cam and Wallow is similar.
00:13:10 - What the (beep) you doing?
00:13:12 (laughing)
00:13:13 - Cam was talking about, you know,
00:13:16 back when he was a youngin',
00:13:18 some girl swipe her tongue across his ass
00:13:20 like a Visa MasterCard.
00:13:21 (laughing)
00:13:24 You know, he said,
00:13:25 he said he was there,
00:13:28 so he was talking about, you know,
00:13:30 I didn't know Cam was Rem Brown.
00:13:32 (laughing)
00:13:34 I didn't know he was Rem Brown.
00:13:37 - Remington Steel.
00:13:38 - Yeah, this is my fuckin',
00:13:39 we got Rem Brown and Remy Butler.
00:13:42 (laughing)
00:13:44 You hear me?
00:13:46 - No, a drive-by don't count.
00:13:47 - No, no.
00:13:48 - It was a drive-by.
00:13:49 - So she did a drive-by on Cam?
00:13:51 - I don't know, man.
00:13:52 - Yo, listen, man, Wallow,
00:13:53 you calling a doctor the other day,
00:13:54 we'll talk about that in a minute.
00:13:56 I don't know what that was.
00:13:56 - No, no, no, hold on.
00:13:57 - Yeah, it's peaceful out there.
00:13:58 - I don't know what happened.
00:13:59 - No, no, no.
00:14:00 - I don't know what happened.
00:14:01 - I'm gonna tell you what happened.
00:14:01 - I'm cool, I don't need to hear it.
00:14:02 - I did 7,300 days in jail.
00:14:05 - Yeah.
00:14:06 - And I'm not saying it
00:14:07 'cause I squeezed one out of each of them.
00:14:07 - No, what happened was--
00:14:08 - Cam, you broke your dick.
00:14:09 - Yeah.
00:14:10 - No, what happened was--
00:14:11 - Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on.
00:14:12 - Peace.
00:14:12 - When that one started off,
00:14:13 what happened was it's crazy.
00:14:15 - Yeah, no, no, no.
00:14:16 - So what happened was, what gang?
00:14:18 - Yeah.
00:14:19 - No, and then he told it.
00:14:19 - He told it, he said,
00:14:20 "So you can put three inches on?"
00:14:22 - Yeah, I seen it.
00:14:23 - No, no, no.
00:14:24 - I really be in the game.
00:14:25 - I seen it.
00:14:25 (laughing)
00:14:26 That's exactly what he said.
00:14:28 - What happened is, you know,
00:14:29 I don't even know what happened.
00:14:30 (laughing)
00:14:31 You know what I mean?
00:14:32 I can't even say that.
00:14:32 - Nah, what happened, nah,
00:14:34 I'm gonna go with what happened was,
00:14:35 so the other day,
00:14:36 and I'm glad you asked me this.
00:14:38 So, you know, I moderate a stack.
00:14:41 We gave an opportunity to get our own show.
00:14:44 - Yeah.
00:14:45 - She wanted to interview Joe Smith's wife.
00:14:49 - Oh yeah.
00:14:50 - And so we was like,
00:14:52 "Go ahead."
00:14:53 Like, me and Mase don't work on that day,
00:14:54 but she was saying that she wouldn't do the interview
00:14:55 unless me and Mase was there,
00:14:57 and Mase had obligations,
00:14:59 and it was our topic that week.
00:15:00 So I said, "Fuck it, I'll go in."
00:15:03 And when we got there,
00:15:04 she was oiled up, cleavage out,
00:15:07 very seductive, and--
00:15:10 - You bit.
00:15:11 - You made me work on my off day.
00:15:14 I'm coming to work.
00:15:15 So I commented on what I seen,
00:15:18 'cause you know what girls like to do?
00:15:20 They like to,
00:15:21 Daisy Dukes, oil up to the thighs.
00:15:24 Fat ass, but you not allowed to comment on that.
00:15:26 I'm commenting on any part of skin I see.
00:15:29 If you got a nice shoulder, I like your shoulder.
00:15:31 - Damn, so you got a nice--
00:15:32 - Damn, you got a nice--
00:15:33 - You got a nice, yeah, if you got a nice thigh,
00:15:36 I like your thigh.
00:15:37 If I see your cleavage,
00:15:38 I'm gonna tell you I like your cleavage now.
00:15:41 If you tell me I'm being inappropriate,
00:15:44 I'm sorry.
00:15:45 But if you tell me, oh, thank you,
00:15:47 now we're gonna go further and see how far we can get.
00:15:50 That's what led to the whole shit
00:15:51 that we was talking about.
00:15:53 Eating ass, I don't get my ass eaten.
00:15:56 - But you have, I'm just saying.
00:15:57 - I have, I have.
00:15:58 - I'm talking about--
00:15:59 (laughing)
00:15:59 - I walk past low sweets,
00:16:01 I walk past low hotel,
00:16:02 everybody here, get everything.
00:16:04 (laughing)
00:16:07 - He lying, he lying, he lying.
00:16:10 - I'm not hitting on nobody.
00:16:12 (laughing)
00:16:14 I'm like, that low in it?
00:16:18 I ain't talking about this bitch here.
00:16:20 You my girlfriend now.
00:16:22 (laughing)
00:16:24 - This when I was 15, I didn't know no better.
00:16:26 - She took a beating.
00:16:27 - And it was, yeah.
00:16:28 - It happened to me when I was young,
00:16:29 but it wasn't, it was a strong one.
00:16:30 - Now don't go young 'cause I say young now.
00:16:32 - Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:16:33 - If you was in the hotel room, this was recent.
00:16:34 - Yes, it was.
00:16:35 (laughing)
00:16:36 - Oh, get everything.
00:16:37 Clean the house.
00:16:39 (laughing)
00:16:42 Clean me out of this house.
00:16:43 You my girlfriend now.
00:16:45 - What the hell?
00:16:47 - Yeah, man.
00:16:48 - You're lying, you're lying.
00:16:49 - He lying, but we keep it all real.
00:16:51 - Well, we came in and I mentioned it to Kim,
00:16:53 and I said, damn, dog, I ain't know you.
00:16:55 You like Remmers?
00:16:57 - Yeah.
00:16:58 - I said, well, I love them Remmers.
00:16:59 Mase turned around fast as shit like,
00:17:02 well, I love that one, the Remmers too.
00:17:04 (laughing)
00:17:06 So I know Mase was back in the day,
00:17:09 he had three of them in the attack.
00:17:10 (laughing)
00:17:11 - Let me get some.
00:17:12 (laughing)
00:17:15 - Let's be clear before we put this out there.
00:17:17 Mase was the first.
00:17:18 - I got my ass eaten.
00:17:19 (laughing)
00:17:20 I had not done a regular thing, nigga.
00:17:22 I was 15, but I'm sitting here telling you,
00:17:25 a bitch will offer you--
00:17:25 - Man, only get his kicks eight on the weekends.
00:17:26 - No, no, listen, some bitches will tell you
00:17:28 that's what get them off.
00:17:29 I tell them, get under the balls and don't go lower.
00:17:32 - Oh, so y'all Gucci boys.
00:17:33 - Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:17:34 - Gucci, Gucci.
00:17:35 - Yeah, yeah, yeah, I definitely go Gucci.
00:17:36 - Gucci, Gucci.
00:17:37 - I definitely Gucci, definitely.
00:17:38 - But you can't swipe me.
00:17:39 - Yeah.
00:17:40 - You can't do it with a body shot.
00:17:41 (laughing)
00:17:43 - What you fucking doing?
00:17:44 (laughing)
00:17:46 What the fuck you doing out of that tooth?
00:17:48 - That's crazy.
00:17:49 - Hey, did you just sexually assault me?
00:17:54 - That's a fact and they'll bring it back up for you later
00:17:56 when it's time in the argument.
00:17:58 - See, see, I go to his Gucci be like, lower.
00:18:02 (laughing)
00:18:03 Lower!
00:18:04 (laughing)
00:18:05 - You're lying.
00:18:06 - Ooh, ooh, ooh.
00:18:07 - Why you think he laughed like that?
00:18:10 - You're lying.
00:18:11 - He's screaming out, "Oh, dude."
00:18:13 - You're like, stop lying to me.
00:18:13 - All right, go ahead, man.
00:18:14 - Now.
00:18:15 - I'm gonna let you live.
00:18:16 - What makes it, you know, you come out
00:18:19 when you sold all them records,
00:18:20 did you feel as though you was the king of New York ever?
00:18:24 - That's a good question.
00:18:25 - You know, I mean, because nobody talk about that.
00:18:27 Like, you know what I mean?
00:18:28 Did you, you just came out there in numbers.
00:18:30 Did you feel as though you was the king of New York?
00:18:33 - I think there was a summer I felt like that.
00:18:36 There was a summer I felt like that.
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00:19:59 Hov came right in, Rolex diamonds.
00:20:01 - What the fuck you done to that?
00:20:02 - I was gonna bring that Roley here today.
00:20:05 I should've wore it today.
00:20:06 - Damn, Hov peeped it though.
00:20:08 - Yeah.
00:20:09 - Did that mess you up though when Hov came at you like that?
00:20:12 - I mean, it probably, that was the first time
00:20:15 I experienced what we talking about rappers,
00:20:17 athletes deal with now when you dissed by somebody
00:20:21 you thought was cool.
00:20:22 And you're like, why is this old (beep) hating on me?
00:20:25 You know what I'm saying?
00:20:26 That's all I really thought about it.
00:20:28 - All right, now, this the whole thing.
00:20:30 In New York, who was like the first dudes
00:20:34 to really put the fly (beep) rap down?
00:20:36 That fly (beep) rap.
00:20:38 You know what I mean?
00:20:39 That talking about the clothes.
00:20:40 - And if he wasn't from Harlem, give it up to him.
00:20:42 'Cause I know y'all skipped right over
00:20:44 that (beep) to go to Harlem.
00:20:46 - Nah, I think keep it real.
00:20:47 Like even when you was talking about the point guards,
00:20:49 now guards, just best basketball players.
00:20:51 I was thinking, I was going through it last night.
00:20:53 I was like, Queens might got the best point guards
00:20:56 in New York City when I was thinking about it.
00:20:58 We seen Kenny Smith last night and (beep)
00:20:59 he's like damn, Queens.
00:21:01 Yeah, Queens might have the best--
00:21:03 - Jackson, Kenny Anderson.
00:21:04 - Yeah, skip to my loot.
00:21:06 Yeah, them (beep) might have the best point guards
00:21:08 in New York City.
00:21:09 So I ain't on that type of time,
00:21:11 but for me, if I could remember off the top,
00:21:13 there's a lot of (beep) 'cause once you started
00:21:15 getting them big ass rope chains and everything else.
00:21:18 If I had to say fresh, I'm going to go probably Dougie Fresh.
00:21:23 - No, I'm talking about rapping.
00:21:24 - Oh, (beep) rapping.
00:21:25 - The rap, the rap where you talking about--
00:21:27 - Talking about (beep)
00:21:27 - Talking that, you know, that putting the (beep) on.
00:21:29 Talking--
00:21:30 - You got to realize like, yo,
00:21:31 we like around the same age,
00:21:33 Waldo, you probably the youngest, so.
00:21:35 We've been looking--
00:21:36 - Yeah, all y'all like 51, right?
00:21:37 - Nah, Waldo.
00:21:37 - Okay, my brother Waldo.
00:21:39 We all in our 40s.
00:21:40 - Right.
00:21:41 - So, including you, Waldo.
00:21:42 - Yeah, I'm 40.
00:21:43 - So the whole thing is like,
00:21:45 if you've been listening to rap since you six or seven,
00:21:49 it's hard to say who because you know,
00:21:51 I'm sitting here trying to answer your question
00:21:55 'cause I'm thinking of clothes and jewelry
00:21:58 and everything else.
00:21:59 - Was it Big Daddy Kane?
00:22:00 - Big Daddy Kane was talking (beep)
00:22:01 - I'm talking about bringing it up.
00:22:03 I ain't talking about that far back.
00:22:05 You know, 'cause if you got to do that,
00:22:05 you talking about G-Rap, you talking about,
00:22:07 you know what I mean?
00:22:08 - Yeah, but Big Daddy Kane used to talk (beep)
00:22:10 - Yeah, he used to talk.
00:22:10 - He used to talk.
00:22:11 - So he was the first?
00:22:12 - Yeah, that's when you actually like--
00:22:14 - Yeah, you can see that, yeah.
00:22:15 - That's a great answer.
00:22:16 - But I'm talking about your generation.
00:22:19 - Talking (beep)
00:22:20 Everybody's talking (beep)
00:22:20 when we start talking.
00:22:21 See, it's different talking (beep)
00:22:25 - Biggie.
00:22:25 - Biggie.
00:22:26 - Biggie.
00:22:27 - Biggie was the nigga that made fly nigga rap,
00:22:30 black and ugly as ever, however,
00:22:32 I stay down to the socks, rings and watch filbert rocks.
00:22:37 Hear my jam knocks in your mission beat,
00:22:39 man, it was like you wanted to go get a Gucci sweater.
00:22:42 - I did.
00:22:43 - I did too.
00:22:44 - I did too.
00:22:45 - I'm just saying, I'm out here.
00:22:46 - But, but, but, but, but, but, but,
00:22:46 but it seemed like, it seemed like it went to another level.
00:22:49 When the money just stormed in.
00:22:50 - It sound like you got somebody in mind, Wallo.
00:22:52 - Yeah.
00:22:53 - It sound like you--
00:22:54 - No, no, no, no, I ain't listening.
00:22:54 - You got somebody in mind?
00:22:55 - Ever getting to him, Bobby?
00:22:56 - Nah, (beep)
00:22:57 - Nah, you trying to play me?
00:22:58 (laughing)
00:22:59 No, no, no, you know what, you know what?
00:23:00 I'm going to say this, I'm going to say this about Mase,
00:23:02 right, Mase was talking that (beep)
00:23:05 on a whole different level.
00:23:07 Like when, you know, when Get That Money Right came out,
00:23:09 them Desert Storm mixtapes, it was a different,
00:23:11 it was different lyrical (beep) going on.
00:23:14 You know, Biggie, Biggie was always that.
00:23:16 We got to, can't take him from Biggie,
00:23:17 but when you talk--
00:23:18 - Tell him the truth.
00:23:19 - They tell him the truth.
00:23:20 - No, no, no, when you talking that (beep)
00:23:21 it was certain (beep)
00:23:22 that you can't talk about because you can't fit it
00:23:24 and you couldn't wear it.
00:23:25 Biggie is that dude, but he couldn't talk,
00:23:27 like Mase was talking that (beep)
00:23:29 - He was talking.
00:23:30 - Like when Get That Money Right, he was talking--
00:23:31 - What'd he say?
00:23:32 - He said, "When you a good fella,
00:23:34 you get cheddar for your work,
00:23:36 rock Versace leather shirts when you fuck a girl at heart,
00:23:38 I'm going to cruise around the world
00:23:39 with a mean golden girl,
00:23:40 dough full of pearls, drinking Malteshi Earl.
00:23:42 I need a hundred hoes 'cause I got a ton of those
00:23:44 that live up in bungalows with sexy underclothes."
00:23:47 - Lil Mase, look at Lil Mase.
00:23:49 (laughing)
00:23:51 - How you remember that (beep)
00:23:53 - I've been with you 20 years and--
00:23:54 - That was the same rap, that was the same rap.
00:23:56 - All of them (beep) sexually assaulted you
00:23:58 and chased you around the fucking yard.
00:24:00 - Now listen, now listen.
00:24:02 ♪ If you want it, you can take it ♪
00:24:03 - That was the shit.
00:24:05 No, no, no, but hold up, hold up cuz, hold up cuz.
00:24:08 It was a lyrical execution of that shit.
00:24:11 You know what I mean?
00:24:12 And it was like the beats and all that,
00:24:13 it was a different level of fly to talk.
00:24:16 And that's what I'm saying, like,
00:24:17 even like when you look at it now,
00:24:19 you don't see it too much,
00:24:20 you might hear it throw a little gear in there,
00:24:22 but I'm talking about that fly to talk where it's like,
00:24:25 "Nah, man, I'm getting, it was like this,
00:24:27 "I'm getting money, man.
00:24:29 "I put that shit on, I fuck your bitch.
00:24:31 "And if we go through a problem about something,
00:24:33 "I'm going to get my worker to shoot you.
00:24:35 "I ain't going to shoot you because I get money.
00:24:37 "I'm not no shooter, I'm a money getter."
00:24:39 That was the rap lingo.
00:24:40 And the structure of it is that the shooter is the worker.
00:24:45 You know, so it was just like this whole live boss rap shit
00:24:49 and it was like the cadence of it, it was crazy.
00:24:52 And it was like, it was just a different time, man.
00:24:54 And it was like the mixtapes.
00:24:55 - Man, feel some way about you, man.
00:24:56 - No, no, Mase was that dude.
00:24:57 Listen, listen, listen, listen.
00:24:58 Oh, shut up.
00:24:59 I wrote your raps, I put you in a rap game.
00:25:03 I took you to the studio, I was your first manager.
00:25:06 I still got you on contract.
00:25:07 - Why don't you tell us
00:25:08 why you really remember that shit?
00:25:10 - No, no, it was--
00:25:11 - I did one, three prison talent shows for you.
00:25:13 Fuck off.
00:25:13 (laughing)
00:25:14 - That's a lie.
00:25:15 - You was a mix of the prison talent show.
00:25:18 - What I'm saying is--
00:25:20 - Mase didn't even remember that shit.
00:25:22 - No, no, no.
00:25:23 - He was like, damn, this shit is good.
00:25:24 - I'm keeping it, I know when you spit,
00:25:26 I was like, yeah, that was that shit.
00:25:27 - That shit was good.
00:25:28 - I told you, when we done mixtapes--
00:25:30 - The mixtapes was all of it.
00:25:31 - Mase would use to rap hard,
00:25:33 but then when the deal came in and the money came in,
00:25:37 he switched it up.
00:25:38 Nah, he still murdered two, but that was it.
00:25:41 My favorite, I still use one of Mase's raps
00:25:43 from the mixtapes with certain,
00:25:44 when I say move, let's go or get left, yo.
00:25:48 - Yeah, yeah, that was the lyrics.
00:25:50 And it was a production and kissing all of them,
00:25:53 all of them was on there, just destroying this body,
00:25:55 and it was this New York sound that was coming out
00:25:58 that was different and it was an excitement to it
00:26:00 'cause everybody was on the mixtape.
00:26:01 Yo, you get the mixtape, you get the Desert Storm,
00:26:03 the DJs, and it was like, damn.
00:26:06 X was on shit, DMX, rest in peace to him.
00:26:10 Oh yeah, I asked him a question too.
00:26:11 Who was better, DMX or Tupac?
00:26:13 - I ain't got time for that shit, man.
00:26:18 - I'm talking about the internet going crazy.
00:26:20 - Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:26:21 - Say what you want to say.
00:26:22 - Going crazy.
00:26:22 - Me personally, I seen DMX.
00:26:27 I didn't really get to see,
00:26:29 I'm talking about on tour with DMX.
00:26:30 I'm in the studio with DMX.
00:26:32 See, I actually got to see N*ggas go lose they mind
00:26:35 about DMX.
00:26:36 I know N*ggas love Tupac, but I didn't get to see him
00:26:40 on tour and do anything else.
00:26:41 So for me, it's going to be DMX
00:26:43 'cause I actually got to be a part of or see
00:26:47 from when he was just in the tenement rapping,
00:26:49 the book's telling 10, 20,
00:26:51 however many millions of records he sold.
00:26:52 I seen the whole process.
00:26:53 - What about you, Mase?
00:26:54 - Oh man, to me, I would definitely have to say DMX
00:26:59 because, and not just East West,
00:27:02 like when you saw the energy pause
00:27:05 that this N*gga DMX gave you,
00:27:07 it's like just, you could just stop one lyric
00:27:11 that he would be saying in a whole concert
00:27:14 and the whole arena would say it.
00:27:16 Like, I think a lot of times
00:27:18 because you learn the flaws of N*ggas,
00:27:21 you forget how great N*ggas really were.
00:27:23 Like DMX was one of those like special, special talents.
00:27:27 - Unless he was.
00:27:28 - And when I first heard DMX in the studio,
00:27:31 I was just like, yo, this N*gga is just different.
00:27:35 Like we was in the studio,
00:27:36 that's how he ended up on my album on like two records.
00:27:40 And then from there he went and did his deal
00:27:42 and all of that stuff.
00:27:43 But I was like, yo, this N*gga is crazy.
00:27:45 - What about you?
00:27:46 - Pac was phenomenal too.
00:27:48 I can't take nothing away from Pac.
00:27:50 But DMX, I think DMX had more than Pac.
00:27:54 I'm going to go on the record and say that.
00:27:56 He had more than Pac because DMX was able to give you
00:28:00 just a different, he just touched my pause
00:28:04 in a different way than Pac did.
00:28:07 - You know, I was more of a 2Pac dude.
00:28:09 You already know.
00:28:10 - I knew you was going to say that.
00:28:10 - But you said DMX was the best performer
00:28:12 you ever seen in your life.
00:28:12 - Ever seen in my life.
00:28:13 - Yeah.
00:28:14 That's what I mean.
00:28:15 DMX was the best performer I ever seen in my f*cking life.
00:28:19 When that N*gga came out at that f*cking Spectrum
00:28:23 and he walked on that f*cking stage,
00:28:27 that sh*t, I'm talking about that sh*t,
00:28:30 damn near was about to fall from the rafters
00:28:32 in that motherf*cking man.
00:28:33 That was one of the greatest performances
00:28:35 I ever seen in my life.
00:28:36 - Before DMX come on the stage,
00:28:37 he be backstage growling on the mic
00:28:39 and the crowd go crazy.
00:28:40 (growling)
00:28:41 You just see the N*gga growling.
00:28:43 (growling)
00:28:43 And you hear all that sh*t.
00:28:45 - The whole crowd before he walk out
00:28:48 is losing their minds.
00:28:49 - And then that f*ckin' came on.
00:28:50 - One, two, one, two.
00:28:51 (growling)
00:28:52 - That sh*t was ridiculous.
00:28:54 - So X was definitely the better rapper
00:28:57 and Pac was probably the better artist.
00:29:00 - I don't know who was the better rapper.
00:29:04 I know they both had great songs.
00:29:06 I know they both was way above average rappers.
00:29:11 They was top tier, you know what I mean?
00:29:14 Pac gave you a certain type of feeling in one way
00:29:17 and DMX gave you a certain type of feeling in another way.
00:29:20 You know what I'm saying?
00:29:22 But that's a great debate though.
00:29:24 I love both of them.
00:29:25 Rest in peace to both of them.
00:29:26 They was both truly great artists.
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00:32:02 Let's go.
00:32:03 Now, all of y'all put projects out, right?
00:32:08 - The fuck out of here, we ain't going up with this.
00:32:11 - No, I ain't trying, I ain't mean to say Gil.
00:32:13 Gil was a white, bum-ass rapper.
00:32:15 He was a fail rapper.
00:32:16 Cash Money Reject, that's a different story.
00:32:18 - That's cool, go ahead and take your shots, baby.
00:32:22 - No, but it's like--
00:32:24 - I got you.
00:32:25 - When you think about Harlem and New York,
00:32:27 it was like, man, it was just this sound, man.
00:32:31 Children of the Corn, y'all had all these movements.
00:32:33 McGruff from Harlem, ain't he?
00:32:35 - Yeah.
00:32:35 - McGruff, who was the greatest Harlem rapper of all time?
00:32:39 - Don't do that to the--
00:32:40 - I got you.
00:32:41 - Don't do that to the--
00:32:42 like that, change the question up.
00:32:43 - No, man, stop being--
00:32:44 - Don't do that to the--
00:32:46 Don't do that to the--
00:32:47 like that, who was the greatest Harlem rapper of all time?
00:32:50 - Yeah.
00:32:51 (whistling)
00:32:53 (laughing)
00:32:55 - Wow, that was a good question.
00:33:01 You talking about everybody in that prom?
00:33:03 - We talking about everybody.
00:33:05 - Everybody in that prom.
00:33:07 All right, this is, let me see.
00:33:12 - Don't be humble.
00:33:13 - They definitely wouldn't like my list.
00:33:18 - Say it.
00:33:20 - Who you think, killer?
00:33:22 Just give me your top five.
00:33:23 - Who's number, I need the top five to be one, two, three--
00:33:26 - Yeah, then we can get to that,
00:33:28 but first we gotta agree on the top.
00:33:29 - I don't know, we just name it.
00:33:31 - I'm going to be honest with you,
00:33:32 it's just about, like if you're actually my favorite rapper
00:33:34 from Harlem, let's say Mase.
00:33:36 I'm just being straight up and down.
00:33:37 You got Kumo D, you got Rob Bass, you got Doug E. Fresh,
00:33:42 you got the ASAP News, you got Dipset.
00:33:46 Who else are you going to name from Harlem?
00:33:47 I'm just saying, it isn't like Brooklyn or Queens
00:33:49 where you're going to name 75 rappers.
00:33:53 It's probably 12 of us.
00:33:55 If I'm not mistaken, Loon 2, you got Loon--
00:33:58 - ASAP.
00:33:59 - I said the ASAP.
00:34:00 - Big L.
00:34:01 - Big L, of course, Big L, definitely, absolutely.
00:34:03 But see, it's like Big L, and that's my man,
00:34:05 we from the same block, that's my dude.
00:34:08 He only got to do, he didn't have a long time
00:34:11 to do what he could really potentially do.
00:34:13 You know what I'm saying?
00:34:14 He only had one album.
00:34:15 So when I'm thinking about the list,
00:34:17 it may be 10 to 12 people.
00:34:19 - I think Big L was better than anybody in Harlem.
00:34:22 - That's a great point.
00:34:23 - No, no, the reason I'm going to say that is because
00:34:25 he was so advanced when he died,
00:34:29 if he get a deal, I'm talking about a real joint,
00:34:31 he was out of there.
00:34:32 Like, think about the advancement of the way
00:34:34 he was breaking that shit down, his wordplay,
00:34:37 you know what I mean?
00:34:38 His attitude.
00:34:38 - The thing about Big L is that--
00:34:40 - Yeah, I feel most--
00:34:40 - Mase like, "Yeah, he had me."
00:34:42 - No, I'm just saying.
00:34:43 - No, no, he did.
00:34:44 - I'm not going to say that.
00:34:45 I'm not going to say that.
00:34:47 - I'm not going to say that.
00:34:47 - I'm not going to say that.
00:34:48 - I'm not going to say that.
00:34:49 - I'm not the one that--
00:34:50 - He like, he like--
00:34:51 - I'm not the one that--
00:34:52 - He like, he like--
00:34:52 - They expected me politically correct.
00:34:54 - He was not going to do that.
00:34:55 - 'Cause he got away at me.
00:34:56 - Big L, listen, for me, before I let Mase talk,
00:34:58 I was just going to say, Big L is my man.
00:35:00 Like, I'm telling you, we used to freestyle practice
00:35:02 with each other.
00:35:03 He's my guy, but, and listen, I'm not going to
00:35:06 send him for the (beep)
00:35:07 be like, "Oh, (beep) the Kam Tracks."
00:35:08 That's my (beep)
00:35:08 Just like, for me, it's like,
00:35:12 (beep) liked Big L better after he died.
00:35:15 My opinion, they start, oh, he's a legend,
00:35:17 this, that, that, and he was nice before he died.
00:35:18 You got to realize, him and Nas is on the same label
00:35:21 at the same time, Columbia Records.
00:35:23 So, you got Nas and Big L coming out at the same time,
00:35:26 and you kind of seeing who elevated more.
00:35:29 So, it wasn't like he wasn't on a major record label,
00:35:31 or he didn't have an opportunity.
00:35:33 It was kind of, you was--
00:35:34 - Wasn't he ready to get with Rockefeller?
00:35:36 - Something like that, yeah.
00:35:37 - That's what I'm saying, like, get that extra push.
00:35:39 - And listen, I'm not dissing him, 'cause that's my boy,
00:35:42 very lyrically talented.
00:35:44 I just don't think he had enough time.
00:35:46 But, I let Mase say who he's going to.
00:35:48 (overlapping chatter)
00:35:51 - This will tell you, Big L ain't they favorite rapper,
00:35:53 'cause it sounds good to say if you from up.
00:35:56 - You know, like a lot of times, when the niggas die,
00:35:58 you just, you put 20 on pump 10, you know what I'm saying?
00:36:02 - That's sad.
00:36:03 (overlapping chatter)
00:36:06 - No, 'cause this is what I try to explain to people,
00:36:11 and I'm glad Killa said it, because it's like,
00:36:15 L was alive when I was there.
00:36:17 So, he got to see me, I mean,
00:36:20 he did his whole album, he put everybody on it,
00:36:25 he put on, I was like the person that he put on the record.
00:36:27 So, I always had that chip on my shoulder.
00:36:30 Like, all these niggas left me off the record,
00:36:32 you know what I'm saying?
00:36:34 But I was happy, 'cause Killa went crazy.
00:36:36 - The American Dream.
00:36:38 - Yeah, he did.
00:36:39 But when he did "Aid Is Enough", I said,
00:36:41 yo, you think Aid is enough?
00:36:43 You know how I think, I'm definitely feeling the way.
00:36:46 I'm like, oh, this nigga put all these niggas on here,
00:36:50 and he ain't put me on there.
00:36:51 So, I really, I held that forever.
00:36:55 So, when I got my shot, I was just like,
00:36:57 yeah, I got to be better than these niggas.
00:37:00 - You know who I want to give a shout out to?
00:37:03 - Who?
00:37:04 - I want to give a shout out to me, sister, Baby Stakes.
00:37:07 And I want to tell you why.
00:37:07 - Wait, but let's get that list.
00:37:09 - I was just about to say that.
00:37:10 (overlapping chatter)
00:37:13 I want to know who the fucking top rapper in the whole world is.
00:37:19 Who's number one?
00:37:20 - The top rappers, I definitely--
00:37:22 - No, the top rapper.
00:37:23 Let's go start with number one.
00:37:25 Do we want to go to number two?
00:37:25 - Yeah, I would go with me.
00:37:26 I would go with me.
00:37:27 (overlapping chatter)
00:37:30 I agree with Cam.
00:37:35 (overlapping chatter)
00:37:38 Nah, I ain't gonna go against any of that.
00:37:43 - Who two?
00:37:44 - I would go with Killah second.
00:37:46 - Who three?
00:37:47 - Um, this is interesting.
00:37:49 - Don't you dare drop that ASAP Rocky.
00:37:54 - No, no, no, no.
00:37:55 - You're one of them goddamn three.
00:37:57 - I think it's that the city never got to hear.
00:38:01 - No, but ASAP took it to the world.
00:38:02 - No, it's other names, like, it's other names.
00:38:07 Now, would you say--
00:38:08 - Say the names, you gotta write it.
00:38:10 - Would you say Trooper J was better than L?
00:38:13 If he would've got his shot?
00:38:17 - So--
00:38:18 - It's a movie that was crazy.
00:38:19 - Hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up.
00:38:22 You just going, ASAP took it to the world.
00:38:25 - Nah, we gonna get to that, we gonna get to that.
00:38:29 - All right, go ahead.
00:38:29 - You tell him I'm the best.
00:38:30 - What record ASAP put you on?
00:38:33 - No, he's saying that's why you mad at ASAP,
00:38:37 'cause he put you on the record.
00:38:38 (overlapping chatter)
00:38:41 - You said rappers, you didn't say like fashion.
00:38:44 - Yeah, I was just about to say that.
00:38:45 - You said rappers, right?
00:38:46 - And I was about to say, what's the ASAP lyric?
00:38:50 I'm not saying you don't know, I'm asking you to sing it.
00:38:52 Just like you sung "Mae Shit."
00:38:55 - There's a lot of ASAP, I got ASAP on my playlist.
00:39:01 - I just asked you to do something, that's it.
00:39:04 (laughs)
00:39:05 - Shout out to ASAP.
00:39:06 - That's what I'm trying to explain to you,
00:39:07 like he's good at--
00:39:08 - I'm just saying, you can't live forever.
00:39:12 I ain't gotta keep going, but I'm just saying, shut up man.
00:39:17 - He was talking to you, he wasn't talking to me.
00:39:19 (overlapping chatter)
00:39:22 - Okay, but go ahead.
00:39:27 - We sit you down with the bands, call us double and twins.
00:39:30 - That's new, you're posing on it.
00:39:31 - Don't know our government name,
00:39:32 just know that's the name we share.
00:39:34 Don't do no name, no stare.
00:39:36 Don't do no pics, no share.
00:39:38 - And I ain't so bright like,
00:39:39 and I shine so bright like,
00:39:41 come on, I know ASAP.
00:39:43 - Yeah, so I would go, me, Killer.
00:39:46 - ASAP?
00:39:47 - I don't know, Trooper J.
00:39:48 - Hold on man, who know Trooper J?
00:39:50 Shout out to Trooper J.
00:39:51 - I'm just--
00:39:52 - With Trooper J.
00:39:53 - You asked us because you wanted Harlem Intel, right?
00:39:55 - That's Harlem Intel.
00:39:56 - You want Harlem Intel, right?
00:39:58 We not talking about, it's like,
00:40:00 that had a cool verse, we talking about
00:40:02 who was lyrically gifted.
00:40:05 - Okay, so it's Mase, Killer, Trooper J.
00:40:08 - Trooper J.
00:40:08 - Um, I would have to go Big L,
00:40:11 and then um--
00:40:14 - Mike Boogie.
00:40:15 - Damn, just left Jules Santan off that.
00:40:18 - All right, you heard him.
00:40:19 - Oh, I forgot, Jules would be in that list.
00:40:23 - Who were on his list?
00:40:25 - No, I'm telling you, all from Mase,
00:40:26 'cause he went Trooper,
00:40:27 reason I said, this is not my list,
00:40:30 this is his list.
00:40:31 - Yeah.
00:40:32 - What's the name, what I'm saying is that
00:40:34 when he brought up Trooper J,
00:40:35 I'm thinking the (beep) who's in that era
00:40:37 who didn't get a chance,
00:40:38 is dumb nice (beep)
00:40:39 - Isn't that (beep)
00:40:40 - Who didn't get a chance.
00:40:41 - That was incredible.
00:40:42 - Right.
00:40:43 - Like, you hear (beep) and you like,
00:40:44 you know this (beep) is--
00:40:46 - He ain't get on, you like, dang.
00:40:47 - He ain't never get a shot.
00:40:49 - Right.
00:40:50 - I don't know where he's at,
00:40:51 but he was like, he was--
00:40:53 - Then who's your list?
00:40:54 - I'm number one, I just said Mase my favorite rapper.
00:40:58 - Oh, I'm saying he's the best rapper.
00:41:00 (laughing)
00:41:01 - I like that, I like that.
00:41:03 - He said you my favorite rapper.
00:41:05 - Okay, so your list is Killer.
00:41:07 - Yeah, he second, he second.
00:41:09 (laughing)
00:41:11 - I love that (beep)
00:41:14 - I knew he was gonna say that,
00:41:15 that's why I kept myself first,
00:41:18 I knew he was gonna say that.
00:41:20 - You know what I mean?
00:41:21 'Cause that's what I say if I do a Philly list,
00:41:22 I'm saying me first.
00:41:23 - Then I would put Juelz third,
00:41:25 and then I put Big L fourth.
00:41:30 It's like, it's just that Big L didn't get enough time,
00:41:34 man, like, you know, I think he,
00:41:35 a lot of the, like, he went back to back.
00:41:37 - You put Juelz before Big L?
00:41:38 - So he had more time, Juelz,
00:41:40 like Juelz is on 200 mixtapes, he got bangers.
00:41:43 - No, I'm not gonna lie, when I first heard Juelz rap,
00:41:47 I was like, yo, 'cause at that time
00:41:49 I wasn't speaking to Killer,
00:41:50 so I was like, yo, it's like it got one.
00:41:53 - Yeah, like that, he did it.
00:41:54 - When I, like, Juelz could have really been like,
00:41:57 he could have been on, he could have been Hov level.
00:42:00 - Nah, real talk, he had it,
00:42:02 and he had it at a young age,
00:42:03 he like, he could have been the leader
00:42:05 of everything that's going on outside right now.
00:42:08 He could have been all these young,
00:42:10 father, uncle, whatever you want to call it,
00:42:12 like, that's how much, 'cause the chicks liked him,
00:42:15 he could rap, he was fly,
00:42:17 he had every element that you needed to be that.
00:42:20 - Yeah, he had the real wittiness
00:42:22 to be like one of those special rappers.
00:42:24 - Right, exactly.
00:42:25 - Which stopped him.
00:42:27 You was there, I wasn't.
00:42:29 - Well, to be, and I'm be totally honest with you,
00:42:31 to me, Juelz, I wouldn't say poor work ethic,
00:42:36 but I'm just not sure why.
00:42:37 Juelz would sit there with 300 songs on his hard drive
00:42:40 and won't put it out.
00:42:41 If you follow Juelz now on his Instagram,
00:42:42 I haven't spoke Juelz in a while,
00:42:44 but he'll tell you, next month,
00:42:46 so and so is coming out,
00:42:47 next month, so and so is coming out,
00:42:49 next month, so and so, it doesn't come out.
00:42:51 If you think about it,
00:42:52 he wanted to get out his deal with me,
00:42:54 he's like, I'm not putting out no music
00:42:57 'til I get out the deal with Kim
00:42:58 and then I'll put my album out.
00:43:00 And he bought the deal since 2008.
00:43:02 He started putting little mixtapes out here and there,
00:43:04 but he hasn't put out a real project.
00:43:07 So I'm not going to say he doesn't have great work ethic.
00:43:10 I don't know what it is,
00:43:11 once he got the songs done,
00:43:12 why they don't come out.
00:43:14 I speak to his brother all the time.
00:43:15 - Most artists do that.
00:43:16 - And he's sitting there with 800 songs on the hard drive.
00:43:19 So I have no idea,
00:43:20 but once he wanted to get out his deal with me,
00:43:22 I made it happen.
00:43:24 And I just decided that we still brothers and still cool,
00:43:27 but I have nothing to do with it
00:43:28 as far as your music career.
00:43:30 That's since 2008, everything been him.
00:43:33 When we was working,
00:43:35 look, we used to have to lock Juelz in the house,
00:43:38 straight up in there.
00:43:39 When he's 15, 16,
00:43:40 you don't want to go to school,
00:43:41 you ain't going outside,
00:43:42 you come with us to the club.
00:43:44 Yo, you did them songs,
00:43:44 all them songs that you hear,
00:43:46 the bangers, was forced.
00:43:49 Yo, write the song, my nigga,
00:43:50 write the song,
00:43:51 but it got to a point where I can't treat you
00:43:53 like you're a grown man now.
00:43:54 I can't yell at you.
00:43:55 I can't scream at you.
00:43:56 All them hits,
00:43:57 Gangsta Music, Santana's Town,
00:44:00 all the hot shit.
00:44:01 Hey Ma was when we about to walk out to the club,
00:44:05 we had Crip in Chicago,
00:44:06 and he'd be like, come on,
00:44:08 I'd be like, did the 16,
00:44:10 he'd be like,
00:44:10 da da da.
00:44:13 I said, we'll bring your bitch back.
00:44:15 You're not coming out until you finish the song.
00:44:17 You're not going.
00:44:18 Straight like that, he'll tell you.
00:44:20 And you're not coming out,
00:44:20 we'll bring your hoe back
00:44:21 and if you finish the 16,
00:44:23 we'll let you have her.
00:44:24 - Yeah, Ju-El's was definitely top five.
00:44:26 - And that's how the songs came about.
00:44:29 So when we start working together,
00:44:31 I'm not saying the work I think I put,
00:44:35 but for some reason it's not translating
00:44:36 into the public hearing it.
00:44:38 Like I said, you go to his page now,
00:44:39 every month he's saying,
00:44:40 something's coming out,
00:44:41 something's coming out,
00:44:42 and the reason I know this,
00:44:43 'cause I'm waiting, I'm a fan.
00:44:44 I'm sitting there saying,
00:44:46 well when's the shit coming out?
00:44:47 'Cause I would like to hear it.
00:44:48 But it just doesn't come out for us.
00:44:50 So I would put him,
00:44:52 I had a big L, definitely.
00:44:54 - And then who's five?
00:44:56 - I'm going to go with Trooper J.
00:44:58 I'm going to go with Trooper J.
00:44:59 - Yeah, I like him.
00:45:00 - Oh, Trooper J was bad.
00:45:01 - Yeah, Trooper J.
00:45:01 - I'm going to go with Trooper J too.
00:45:02 - You ain't got no old Trooper J tape or nothing.
00:45:05 I need to hear this.
00:45:06 - Trooper J was nasty, man.
00:45:08 - Trooper J was the,
00:45:09 he was,
00:45:09 see that's what they don't want to tell us,
00:45:11 Trooper J was the one
00:45:12 who used to barbecue,
00:45:13 bake the ass.
00:45:14 - Yeah, he used to cook.
00:45:14 - Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:45:15 - Yeah, he was doing that, man.
00:45:18 - He made us step it up.
00:45:19 - I wasn't better than Trooper J.
00:45:22 Matter of fact,
00:45:23 I'm going to take Trooper J off that list, honestly.
00:45:26 And he's number six for me.
00:45:27 I'm going to put--
00:45:28 - Mike Boogie?
00:45:29 - No, I'm going to put Gruff at five.
00:45:30 - Yeah.
00:45:31 - But Gruff, I got Gruff.
00:45:32 - So if Trooper J was the one barbecue baking y'all,
00:45:34 why y'all keep pushing Trooper J at him?
00:45:37 - Pretty much.
00:45:38 - You know, we used to go to Hogwarts back in the day.
00:45:39 - I really couldn't find him.
00:45:40 - Kill a nice.
00:45:41 - What you mean you couldn't find Trooper J?
00:45:42 - I said they couldn't find him, actually.
00:45:43 - They bring killer to Trooper J.
00:45:45 Trooper J killed Kill Al Dill.
00:45:47 - Nah, Trooper--
00:45:48 - I said they couldn't find him.
00:45:49 You hear this shit?
00:45:50 - Mason's running from Trooper J like a mother--
00:45:52 - No, he was definitely like, when I got my shot,
00:45:55 he was definitely somebody I would have wanted
00:45:57 to bring to the table.
00:45:58 I couldn't find him.
00:45:59 - Trooper J had DMX vibes, but more lyrical.
00:46:02 But that type of--
00:46:04 - Yeah, he was DMX vibe with our kind of rap.
00:46:08 - Right.
00:46:09 And the reason I put him six after Gruff is 'cause
00:46:12 I rap with Gruff everyday.
00:46:13 Gruff from my block.
00:46:14 Me, Gruff, and Big Al from the same block.
00:46:17 But Trooper J is an (beep) you see twice a year
00:46:19 when you see him like, "Yeah, let's spit something."
00:46:21 And you're like, "Oh, you still got that shit."
00:46:23 - Thousand dollars.
00:46:24 - Yeah, like, "Damn, you still got that shit."
00:46:26 But we got our opportunity first, so Mason,
00:46:28 like he said, he probably was, we was looking
00:46:30 for (beep) like that to go, "Yo, we got the chance.
00:46:33 "Let's bring these (beep) in."
00:46:34 But they wasn't from our hood.
00:46:35 - You know, some (beep) was locked up.
00:46:37 Some (beep) was on a run.
00:46:39 You know what I'm saying?
00:46:40 But (beep) was nice.
00:46:41 - Yeah, but I would have to put Trooper J behind Gruff
00:46:44 just 'cause I used to just spar freestyle-wise
00:46:47 with Gruff two, three times a week.
00:46:49 - Juelz, Al, Killa, me.
00:46:54 - It is what it is.
00:46:58 - Now- - Taking a (beep) off.
00:46:59 - Now, I gotta give a shout out to Baby Stace
00:47:02 because Baby Stace is the one that called Mason said,
00:47:05 "Man, what, Wild O and them, man?
00:47:08 "What happened, man?
00:47:09 "They got five-year-old on there, go, man, Wild O,
00:47:12 "that was my (beep) like, man, we,
00:47:14 "I thought they (beep) with you, man."
00:47:17 And then Mase said, "Yo, man,
00:47:19 "I ain't getting nobody $5,000.
00:47:21 "I gotta come up there."
00:47:23 And all this come out of that.
00:47:25 All because Baby Stace wanted to put a check in,
00:47:27 a Harlem check in on me.
00:47:29 - She put a check in on you, you was bitching too.
00:47:31 - I mean, she said, and then, you know what's crazy though?
00:47:36 When I see y'all, what was so good about it is that
00:47:39 a conversation changed everything.
00:47:41 One conversation, bro, like y'all real live brothers, man.
00:47:45 When Mase got up there and said,
00:47:46 "Man, I used to wear Cam clothes."
00:47:47 That was my, that was like, it showed a brother
00:47:52 missing a brother and a brother just being real
00:47:54 when nobody is in between.
00:47:56 Sometimes people come between stuff
00:47:58 and it be conversations, 'cause it'll be remixes.
00:48:02 You know, I tell Gil something about Cam.
00:48:06 Gil will put his own, not saying him particularly,
00:48:08 people put their own twist on stuff
00:48:10 based off of how they hating, how they want to,
00:48:12 "Yeah, 'cause what's his name?
00:48:13 "Oh, man, I ain't even going to tell you."
00:48:15 They be remixing, so y'all getting
00:48:16 all these different stories, and once the conversation had,
00:48:20 y'all jumping, and now look at y'all.
00:48:21 Y'all turning the game up, you see what I'm saying?
00:48:25 But we never get a chance to have this in the hood.
00:48:27 Luckily, y'all ain't go to the beef where it got real crazy
00:48:30 and the pistols got, you know what I mean?
00:48:31 But now look at y'all.
00:48:32 Y'all back on some brotherhood shit.
00:48:34 Y'all winning.
00:48:35 Y'all raking in the dough.
00:48:37 - First of all, we want to say,
00:48:38 I want to say thank you guys for even,
00:48:41 'cause to be honest, without you guys' platform,
00:48:43 we may not even still maybe not even speaking.
00:48:46 So first of all, I want to just say thank you guys,
00:48:48 'cause to be honest with you, we don't even,
00:48:51 I don't do interviews.
00:48:52 I told you, I do Million Dollar Worth a Game,
00:48:56 and I do Drink Champs.
00:48:58 I don't do any other interviews unless you pay me.
00:49:01 'Cause how many times you going to say the same story?
00:49:04 You know what I'm saying?
00:49:04 That's just the way I think.
00:49:06 But thank you guys for even, you know,
00:49:10 I didn't know it left from States,
00:49:11 but after hearing Mase talking, I'm like,
00:49:12 damn, that's my (beep) bitch.
00:49:14 So I got to go on.
00:49:16 I was supposed to come on your show anyway.
00:49:18 You know what I'm saying?
00:49:18 So I'm like, this is perfect.
00:49:19 It worked out at the time and was great.
00:49:22 But thank you guys for even giving us the opportunity,
00:49:24 'cause we got somebody in common, Chanel.
00:49:27 She's one of my publishers.
00:49:28 - Yeah, yeah, it's my people.
00:49:30 - Yeah, so Chanel, that's who we was in a meeting with
00:49:33 before we came back in here.
00:49:36 And she's like, yo, you know,
00:49:37 I work with Gilly all the time.
00:49:38 Is it true?
00:49:40 I'm like, what are you talking about?
00:49:41 She's like, Gilly always talking about,
00:49:43 none of that (beep) would be going on
00:49:45 if it wasn't for our (beep) platform.
00:49:47 Them mother (beep) wouldn't be getting this money
00:49:49 and be speaking and nothing if it wasn't for us.
00:49:52 We the ones who got them (beep) back together.
00:49:54 I was like, yeah, he's right.
00:49:56 I said, yeah, he's right.
00:49:58 She definitely told me that.
00:50:00 - I told her that on the phone.
00:50:00 I said, no, that's how they got back together.
00:50:02 Like, no, they ain't.
00:50:04 - Yeah, that's a fact.
00:50:04 - But the beauty in it is that we could show the young
00:50:09 that a lot of times (beep) don't be that deep, man.
00:50:11 - Nope.
00:50:12 - And we stronger together.
00:50:14 You feel what I'm saying?
00:50:14 That's the beauty in it.
00:50:16 Show them mother (beep) know we stronger together.
00:50:18 Like, you got to understand,
00:50:20 Cam was just doing what he was doing to get money.
00:50:23 Mase was just doing what he was doing to get money.
00:50:25 They just had a conversation and then next to you,
00:50:27 you know, millions of dollars come out of that.
00:50:31 - Yeah.
00:50:31 - Ain't nobody--
00:50:34 - Think about that.
00:50:35 - That was a beautiful day for me.
00:50:35 - Millions of dollars come out of that.
00:50:38 - Now these (beep) is my (beep)
00:50:41 Brian Gumbel and my (beep)
00:50:43 (laughing)
00:50:45 Killer (beep) out there.
00:50:46 - It was some (beep)
00:50:48 And it's like just understanding,
00:50:50 like it don't cost nothing to bring people together
00:50:53 or give them information.
00:50:54 You know, Cam called, Mase called.
00:50:56 I said, get on the phone.
00:50:57 This is how you do this (beep).
00:50:58 This is the money.
00:50:59 This is how we get (beep)
00:51:00 And they went and got the bag.
00:51:02 - They went and got the bag.
00:51:03 Yes, they did.
00:51:04 - One thing about it as well is like,
00:51:05 because I always got offers and nothing,
00:51:09 of course to do with Mase,
00:51:10 but I'm just saying I always got offers
00:51:12 to do podcasts and be a part of content.
00:51:15 I'm like, I don't really know about that (beep)
00:51:17 Like I'm not sure if I want to do that.
00:51:20 But I did know I like sports,
00:51:21 but watching you two do what you guys did,
00:51:25 I don't really, I won't name names,
00:51:28 but I don't really (beep) with (beep) like that.
00:51:30 (laughing)
00:51:30 You know what I'm saying?
00:51:31 I don't like it.
00:51:33 The (beep) is supposed to be,
00:51:34 I don't (beep) with (beep)
00:51:35 So when I seen y'all podcast,
00:51:37 I'm like, yo, I (beep) with
00:51:38 Million Dollars Worth of Game and Gillian Wilde.
00:51:41 I'm (beep)
00:51:42 I could sit there and watch them
00:51:43 as a listener in the car
00:51:45 'cause you're on the same tape with Tom Marmor.
00:51:47 - Yeah.
00:51:48 - So I was like, that's dope.
00:51:49 But then I said, yo, how's they (beep) going?
00:51:51 So, let me see.
00:51:51 And I was like, oh, it's money like that?
00:51:53 (laughing)
00:51:56 I said, you really think you can get money like that?
00:51:58 He's like, yeah.
00:51:59 'Cause y'all (beep) don't really,
00:52:01 especially if they don't follow you guys on Instagram,
00:52:04 you guys don't wear a bunch of jewelry.
00:52:05 Y'all not a bunch of flashy.
00:52:07 Y'all buy them cars.
00:52:09 So, you know what I'm saying?
00:52:10 Y'all definitely get them cars.
00:52:12 I'm like, let me make a couple phone calls
00:52:15 to see what the (beep) going on in this space.
00:52:17 So--
00:52:17 - You called me and I said, listen.
00:52:19 - Yeah, absolutely.
00:52:20 I saw definitely you guys first
00:52:22 and then I called a few.
00:52:23 But more of the story is just saying,
00:52:25 thank you (beep) for being the (beep) that you are
00:52:27 and making a (beep) like me realize like, yo,
00:52:31 they (beep) with some real (beep) still right now.
00:52:33 So, that's what's up.
00:52:34 - That's what's up.
00:52:35 And listen, man, the realness in this (beep) is that
00:52:38 we really look at (beep) like brothers.
00:52:42 So, anytime your (beep) need us for any information,
00:52:45 anything, it's our duty to be like,
00:52:48 oh no, no, do this.
00:52:49 No, do that.
00:52:51 No, no, you want to do this so that this can happen.
00:52:53 If we don't do that, we really some nut-ass (beep)
00:52:56 - Yeah.
00:52:57 - That's just the reality of it.
00:52:59 We don't never block nobody,
00:53:01 anybody that we can help in this space
00:53:03 because it's like, bro,
00:53:04 it's enough money out here for everybody.
00:53:07 - Right.
00:53:08 - The (beep) we talking about,
00:53:09 I'm not in competition with (beep)
00:53:10 because my check is already signed.
00:53:12 That's guaranteed money that you want to the bank.
00:53:15 So, why y'all can't get some money?
00:53:17 - Right.
00:53:18 - Why they can't get some money?
00:53:19 Why they can't?
00:53:20 If you got a hot product that people like,
00:53:23 what's the issue?
00:53:24 - Right.
00:53:26 - The Jews don't do that.
00:53:28 - Yeah.
00:53:29 - Right.
00:53:30 - The Arabs don't do that.
00:53:31 - Yeah, they put more out there.
00:53:32 - They like, no, you need to connect?
00:53:34 Hold on, let me make a phone call for you.
00:53:37 So, it's time for us to be like that.
00:53:39 - That's right.
00:53:40 - You know what I mean?
00:53:41 By the way, man, make sure y'all get deals.
00:53:42 - No, no, no, no, no.
00:53:43 - I'm going to do my own commercial.
00:53:44 - One of our homies, I'm not going to put nobody out there.
00:53:48 I'm not going to put nobody out there.
00:53:49 One of our homies came in the refrigerator in the studio,
00:53:53 grabbed that horsepower, was like, "Damn, who this?"
00:53:55 I said, "That's Cam's stuff, he took it."
00:53:57 He took like two of them.
00:53:59 I don't say nothing.
00:54:00 We don't say nothing.
00:54:01 So, he doubled back.
00:54:02 He like, "Yo, man, ain't nobody, what's up with?"
00:54:05 I said, "Damn, you already took two, damn, Lisa?"
00:54:07 - Yeah.
00:54:08 - Oh.
00:54:09 - Oh.
00:54:10 - He's just a strip club warrior.
00:54:12 - This man, I fucked a bitch like never before, man.
00:54:15 - Yeah, yeah.
00:54:16 - I'm talking about, I'm talking about, I'm--
00:54:18 - I'm definitely like the head club for men.
00:54:20 I'm not just the president, I'm a client.
00:54:22 Make sure you go to pink-horsepower.net.
00:54:27 Have the best time of your life, baby.
00:54:29 Your woman will be happy, she won't leave you.
00:54:31 Listen, man, and I don't know how old your audience is,
00:54:34 but Roxanne Chanté, 'cause she was out when I was a little--
00:54:37 - Yeah, she's a legend.
00:54:38 - She walked up to me, we did Rock the Bells
00:54:40 a couple years ago, she said, "Cam."
00:54:41 Grabbed that, she said, "Yo, Cam."
00:54:44 - First of all, y'all know we had a nice-ass crib
00:54:46 when the bell went like that.
00:54:47 - Yeah, that's right.
00:54:48 - Yeah.
00:54:49 - So, she'd be like, bang, that just hit.
00:54:51 ♪ Wow, bow, bow, bow ♪
00:54:54 But I seen that at Rock the Bells, she said,
00:54:56 "Cam, that pink-horsepower saved my marriage."
00:54:59 - What?
00:55:00 She messed with a, how you gonna say who she messed with?
00:55:02 - I don't know.
00:55:02 - Who she messed with, man?
00:55:05 - Did she mess with Big Horse?
00:55:06 What's the boy, is that her husband?
00:55:08 - I don't know.
00:55:09 - I think he met Big Horse with Lil Pony.
00:55:12 (laughing)
00:55:14 - I'm not mean.
00:55:15 - Big Horse was Lil Pony 'til he got some of that horse.
00:55:17 - Roxanne, if I'm wrong, I'm sorry.
00:55:18 She definitely told me, yo, that shit saved my marriage.
00:55:21 So, if you're having trouble at home,
00:55:24 pink-horsepower.net, save your marriage.
00:55:28 - Now, some people was mad.
00:55:29 - So, you never took none?
00:55:30 - Nah, I'm natural.
00:55:33 (laughing)
00:55:35 - Listen, listen, listen.
00:55:38 - That means I'm natural.
00:55:39 - Now, some people was mad at y'all
00:55:41 because some flyers came out that y'all was going on tour.
00:55:43 And all of a sudden, it didn't happen.
00:55:46 So, like, what's going on?
00:55:47 Like, you know what I mean?
00:55:48 Like, Alex, AG, Sean G, Live Nation.
00:55:52 Like, what's up with this tour?
00:55:53 Like, what's going on?
00:55:54 Like, what?
00:55:55 - What happened was, this is kind of a funny story,
00:56:00 to be honest with you.
00:56:01 (laughing)
00:56:03 No, the reason why--
00:56:04 - What makes do, man?
00:56:05 - No, the reason it's funny 'cause this nigga's a--
00:56:08 No, this is my nigga, so I know this nigga.
00:56:10 It was, he didn't do nothing wrong.
00:56:12 It was solely, and I got those niggas on the bus,
00:56:14 got those niggas on the bus.
00:56:15 There's a promoter named Antonio from Virginia
00:56:17 who was putting this tour together.
00:56:19 I don't know if he was saying he wasn't.
00:56:21 He was on the hook for a lot of the arenas
00:56:24 they were doing, so I don't know if he was, like,
00:56:26 in the sales or he wasn't getting the money.
00:56:27 He's supposed to get more.
00:56:28 The story is, he put it together,
00:56:30 and it didn't pan out the way it's supposed to go.
00:56:33 A lot of people be like, 'cause they know Mesa leave.
00:56:35 So, a lot of niggas hit me like, "Yo, that nigga Mesa.
00:56:38 "I knew it wouldn't last, this, that, and the third."
00:56:40 I'm like, "Nah, it wasn't.
00:56:41 "This wasn't Mesa," or whatever.
00:56:43 So, I got to go back 'cause I'm putting this tour together
00:56:45 with this nigga.
00:56:46 I'm not putting tours together.
00:56:48 I just know this.
00:56:49 So, I got to go back to Mesa and tell him
00:56:50 this shit ain't go through.
00:56:52 - Hey, Sean G.
00:56:54 - What's up?
00:56:55 - Sean, I got Mesa, and I got Cam around right here,
00:56:58 right now, and this Sean G, president of Live Nation Urban.
00:57:01 I said, "What's up with the tour with them?"
00:57:03 - I will put them on tour tomorrow.
00:57:06 - All right, so listen.
00:57:08 - Oh, nigga, shut up.
00:57:09 I got it for me.
00:57:10 - Oh, no.
00:57:11 (laughing)
00:57:12 All right, we'll get this.
00:57:13 Sorry, I got that.
00:57:14 - We're going to leave him 10%.
00:57:15 - But what about Roots Picnic next year?
00:57:18 - I'm already, I was searching around to see who would book him.
00:57:21 I used to book Mase directly with him, with himself,
00:57:23 but somebody told me Calendar, UGA, book Cam.
00:57:25 I've been searching around 'cause I want to do the podcast
00:57:29 live with Roots Picnic, and I want to potentially
00:57:32 put a set together, a music set together with both of them.
00:57:36 - Now, Sean, we feel like you got a socket
00:57:39 to my man's pocket like a rocket.
00:57:40 - Dude, there you go.
00:57:41 - Take that, hold up, shut up, shut up.
00:57:43 I got that.
00:57:44 I got that in the back end, shut up.
00:57:45 That's why I'm still your manager.
00:57:47 - Get the fuck out of here.
00:57:48 - Now, listen, I'm going to put you on text with the fellas.
00:57:52 Listen, the tour, they, you know.
00:57:55 - Get our percentage.
00:57:56 - You know what I mean?
00:57:57 So I'm going to put you on text,
00:57:58 and y'all go from there, all right?
00:58:00 - Perfect, perfect.
00:58:01 Yo, do I deal with y'all directly?
00:58:03 'Cause you know, out in the street,
00:58:05 everyone says different people represent y'all.
00:58:07 - Oh, no, I'm putting you on the phone.
00:58:08 I'm putting you through text with Cam and Mase, nobody else.
00:58:11 I don't know nothing about no representation.
00:58:13 - Right, right, right.
00:58:13 - So I just want to make sure.
00:58:14 - And me, I represent them.
00:58:15 - I got it.
00:58:16 - I represent, you know, them too.
00:58:17 That's another story.
00:58:18 (laughing)
00:58:19 - All right.
00:58:20 - But I'm going to put you directly on it, all right, Sean?
00:58:22 - All right, let's do it.
00:58:23 - All right, bet.
00:58:24 - Now, look, Waldo, that was dope.
00:58:25 And I thank you.
00:58:26 - I want to thank both you guys.
00:58:27 - Yeah, same.
00:58:28 - Ain't going to stop me.
00:58:29 - Check for all of us.
00:58:30 We all came together.
00:58:30 - No, no, no, what I'm saying is this.
00:58:32 - No, I'm just playing.
00:58:33 - I make these same phone calls.
00:58:35 - You posted.
00:58:36 - And Mase says, "Cam."
00:58:38 (laughing)
00:58:39 - What the fuck are you doing, Cam?
00:58:40 - How much money do they get?
00:58:42 I'm not going to say on TV, this man don't be moving.
00:58:46 I don't know in between the time.
00:58:48 - I just talked to him, man.
00:58:49 I just had a talk.
00:58:50 - Listen, listen, bro.
00:58:51 - I just had a talk.
00:58:51 - I'm telling you a (beep) I be with six days a week.
00:58:54 I don't know what type of money was made
00:58:56 between the time he wasn't speaking.
00:59:00 But this (beep) don't, the conversation
00:59:03 which you have with him here, and he'll tell you,
00:59:05 "We could do it."
00:59:06 That's not the conversation.
00:59:07 (laughing)
00:59:08 - I don't know how this is happening, though.
00:59:09 Come on, man.
00:59:10 - It's a separate conversation.
00:59:12 We had the cover of Rolling Stone the other day.
00:59:14 He said, "If I can't approve the photos,
00:59:17 "then the cover can't come out."
00:59:19 It's like he move a little different.
00:59:21 So it's a whole different conversation.
00:59:24 - This boy Mase, man.
00:59:25 I was murdered.
00:59:26 He did, he named me pretty.
00:59:27 - Look at you, you was little meth, little (mumbles)
00:59:30 I know you.
00:59:31 This (beep) was in prison with it, all the talent shows.
00:59:33 He knew how you (beep)
00:59:34 - This boy Mase, I'm missing.
00:59:35 - From 20 something years ago.
00:59:36 - I don't want you to think this can't happen,
00:59:38 but I just want you to know, Mase, just tell me a number.
00:59:41 - If it happens, I'm gonna get you a number.
00:59:43 - Give me a number, I'm gonna go get it.
00:59:44 I guarantee you.
00:59:45 - Anything me and Cam doing together should be a real moment.
00:59:49 So if it's a real moment, it's a real check.
00:59:52 It's not a regular check, you know what I'm saying?
00:59:56 'Cause I could get a regular check by myself.
00:59:58 He can get a regular check by himself.
01:00:00 So even when we came together to do what we're doing now,
01:00:03 it was the same way.
01:00:05 Cam had one number in his mind.
01:00:07 I had a multiple number in my mind, right Cam?
01:00:10 - That's true.
01:00:11 - And we was able to get that.
01:00:12 - That's what makes y'all win though.
01:00:13 'Cause that's why y'all win.
01:00:14 - That's what makes us strong.
01:00:16 - No, it's a actual fact, 'cause when I'm calling around,
01:00:19 and we talking strictly like the sports show,
01:00:22 when I'm calling around, I'm calling y'all.
01:00:24 I'm calling, I called, why I don't got a number?
01:00:26 What's a outrageous number?
01:00:28 You told me the number.
01:00:29 I'm not gonna say it on here or whatever.
01:00:32 So I go back, Mase, I was like,
01:00:34 yo, we dealing with Rich Klamen, Kevin Durant.
01:00:36 - Did I tell you a real number though?
01:00:38 - You told us.
01:00:40 - It wasn't nowhere close to what we got.
01:00:42 - I know, but I told you a number.
01:00:43 - What I'm saying is, the reason I'm bringing this up
01:00:46 is because I'm saying this.
01:00:48 I'm talking to people in the space that's telling us,
01:00:52 yo, this is what's realistic.
01:00:53 This is what's realistic.
01:00:55 This is what's realistic.
01:00:56 So when I go back and tell Mase,
01:00:58 Mase is like, well, we got that already.
01:01:00 And I'm like, yeah, that's true.
01:01:01 But they telling us, they're not giving us like that.
01:01:03 But to Mase's credit, he's absolutely right.
01:01:06 He stood tall on a number and he's like,
01:01:08 well, we're not gonna take this number
01:01:10 because the money that they're offering in this space,
01:01:12 we already have.
01:01:13 And the reason he's bringing that up to you guys right now
01:01:18 is to give you guys,
01:01:20 (laughing)
01:01:22 don't come back without a moment number.
01:01:26 (laughing)
01:01:32 - You gotta read his disclaimer.
01:01:33 (laughing)
01:01:36 - Just like this, they're gonna tell you,
01:01:39 and like I told you that in the conversation before,
01:01:43 because y'all done had so much episodes,
01:01:44 so much, y'all can't get this.
01:01:46 I know y'all can get anything.
01:01:48 Everything can be got, I know.
01:01:50 You see what I'm saying?
01:01:51 It's just about having the right partner
01:01:53 to understand y'all impact on culture.
01:01:54 So the moment number he talking about,
01:01:56 I understand that moment.
01:01:58 And they give out that moment number
01:01:59 with the person I was just talking to.
01:02:01 'Cause I didn't see, it's some serious numbers.
01:02:03 You know what I mean?
01:02:04 For that moment, and even if it's just that day,
01:02:07 - Right.
01:02:08 - It's unbelievable money right there for that.
01:02:11 So I know what he talking about.
01:02:12 He's posing at that.
01:02:13 He put the work in to get that shit.
01:02:15 - I'm just telling y'all to read his disclaimer.
01:02:16 - I know what he's saying.
01:02:17 I know what he's saying.
01:02:18 - Yeah, I know.
01:02:19 We understand what he's saying.
01:02:21 He was murdered, P.D. made him pretty.
01:02:24 (laughing)
01:02:25 Now all about the dollars, you need to get with me.
01:02:28 (laughing)
01:02:30 But now, this the whole thing.
01:02:32 What's up, any music coming out?
01:02:33 I just seen, we just seen you spitting,
01:02:35 we went crazy on the recipe.
01:02:37 - This is what I'm trying to explain to y'all.
01:02:39 We got songs done, I don't know how much.
01:02:41 (laughing)
01:02:43 I don't know how much he be wanting.
01:02:48 - I'm just telling you something.
01:02:50 - It's a bunch of shit.
01:02:51 - What means what to choose the Lord, bless them.
01:02:54 (laughing)
01:02:56 - Bless them, bless them.
01:02:58 It's a different blessing.
01:03:00 - That's it, Killy.
01:03:01 - 'Cause you also said too, Killy, you said,
01:03:04 I don't care what we doing.
01:03:06 Six o'clock come, he gotta get that sermon,
01:03:09 that (beep) rolls out.
01:03:10 I'm like, bye, Killy, I'm gone.
01:03:13 I gotta get on the, yeah, so.
01:03:17 I said, okay.
01:03:18 - I do a summer, it was called Summer with God.
01:03:21 It's a mentorship for just a bunch of people
01:03:24 around the world.
01:03:25 - That's beautiful.
01:03:26 - That's what's up, man.
01:03:27 - Around the world, though.
01:03:28 - Yeah.
01:03:29 - Around the country.
01:03:31 - See, one thing about me, man,
01:03:32 I respect all religions, man.
01:03:33 I don't care what religion you are,
01:03:37 what you believe in, just believe in something, man.
01:03:39 - That's a fact.
01:03:40 That's what I'm at.
01:03:41 - That's what it's about, man.
01:03:43 But listen, man, we gotta figure it out, man,
01:03:46 'cause the people want to see y'all bad.
01:03:48 They want to see y'all bad.
01:03:50 I know, listen, I know.
01:03:51 We got to figure it in the moment number.
01:03:54 - That's what it is, the moment number.
01:03:56 - I'm already turning into a moment agent.
01:03:58 Go get that moment number.
01:03:59 (laughing)
01:04:02 'Cause I know where it's at.
01:04:03 That's what I be trying to tell people.
01:04:05 Gil, somebody call Gil, be like,
01:04:08 hold up, let me put you on the phone.
01:04:09 Well, I tell people, they be like,
01:04:11 show me the money, I'm gonna show you where the money at.
01:04:13 It's all over this joint.
01:04:14 We keep looking at the regular, oh, this the only way.
01:04:17 No, it's 1,000 brands out here
01:04:19 that got money just sitting around
01:04:21 that somebody got to be able to articulate culture
01:04:24 and your impact on culture to them.
01:04:26 And they like, what, that's what that mean?
01:04:28 (clapping)
01:04:29 They going to the brink, so beep, beep, beep.
01:04:31 It's a wrap, life changing money.
01:04:33 So, you know, it's like, I understand what he's saying though
01:04:35 'cause that's a big moment.
01:04:36 - Yeah, it's just understanding,
01:04:38 like a lot of artists do this well and some artists don't.
01:04:42 I think Killa was one of the people
01:04:45 that also was able to do this very well.
01:04:48 It's when you can see the future of the business,
01:04:52 you got to make the number the future number.
01:04:54 You can't lock yourself in for one thing
01:04:57 and it turns into multi-millions
01:05:01 and you only was locked in for 100,000.
01:05:04 - You played yourself.
01:05:05 - You played yourself, so that's really what he said.
01:05:07 - It's just like publishing.
01:05:08 When they go to sell, buy the publishing,
01:05:10 you know, catalogs and all that.
01:05:12 - Knowing what it turn into.
01:05:14 - It's going to turn into five years from now.
01:05:16 So we going to figure that out, but listen, man,
01:05:20 at the end of the day, man.
01:05:21 - Call me, man.
01:05:22 - I am going to call you.
01:05:23 - I'm always listening.
01:05:24 - I'm going to call you, but my whole thing is this.
01:05:27 None of you would have went to played in the NBA.
01:05:30 Let's get that, we got to finish it.
01:05:32 (laughing)
01:05:34 - You was journeyman.
01:05:36 - Journeyman.
01:05:37 - You all would have been the best.
01:05:39 - You could have been a journeyman.
01:05:42 - What do you think he would have been?
01:05:44 - He was a captain of a wrestling team.
01:05:46 - You would have been a bench commissioner.
01:05:48 - I seen him go to the Fresh Air Fund too
01:05:51 with the white people too.
01:05:52 When they sent him to the Fresh Air Fund.
01:05:54 - And he stole their shit.
01:05:56 - I'm going to say this.
01:05:58 - Hold on, hold on.
01:05:59 What about when you was locked up,
01:06:00 you was the, what was you, the captain,
01:06:03 what was his name?
01:06:04 When you all got the cowboy suit on
01:06:06 and you in the front sitting?
01:06:07 - No, that was Vision Quest.
01:06:09 That was Juvenile shit.
01:06:09 - What was the name of it?
01:06:11 - Buffalo Soldier.
01:06:12 - That was Juvenile.
01:06:13 But listen, I'm going to say this.
01:06:14 - He was the captain of the Buffalo Soldiers.
01:06:16 - I don't know, who was the player
01:06:18 that Mase called the bum?
01:06:19 And I was like, no, he's good.
01:06:20 Mase, he ain't no gay to be calling him a bum.
01:06:22 It was some dude that wound up being a bum.
01:06:24 But I'm saying if he in the NBA,
01:06:26 how can these boys call him a bum?
01:06:27 It ain't no bums in the NBA.
01:06:28 You know, when I was arguing with you about it,
01:06:30 he was like, no, it's a bunch of bums in the NBA, Glo.
01:06:33 I'm like, no, it's not.
01:06:34 These niggas is professionals.
01:06:36 Like, I didn't understand that.
01:06:37 So, you know, 'cause my game is a little throwback.
01:06:39 So I wasn't, I didn't never get tapped into
01:06:41 from having a game to being able to sports analyst
01:06:44 that you dudes is.
01:06:45 But I don't understand how y'all,
01:06:46 all three of y'all be calling people bums
01:06:48 and they professional athletes.
01:06:50 - Good words playing the league right now.
01:06:51 - Yonis brothers.
01:06:53 (laughing)
01:06:54 - Can't hear them.
01:06:55 - What we said is we made a shit the other day on the show.
01:06:58 They are probably the only two people
01:07:01 that you have no footage on to get them to the league.
01:07:04 Everybody you got a scout tape on,
01:07:06 college film, high school film.
01:07:08 You cannot find any film on Yonis' brothers
01:07:11 to justify them being in the NBA.
01:07:13 - That's why I give them, Mickey, you ain't handle film.
01:07:16 (laughing)
01:07:17 You ain't handle film, that's why you went to the neighborhood.
01:07:18 That's why you went to the neighborhood.
01:07:19 You went to the neighborhood college.
01:07:21 You ain't handle film.
01:07:22 I know I was out of wonder, you didn't handle film.
01:07:25 You didn't handle film.
01:07:26 That's why you still play the playground.
01:07:29 And then Gus, you the 40 year old,
01:07:32 you like a 40, listen, you the 40 year old gym rat.
01:07:34 You just been in the gym shooting all day.
01:07:36 He's shooting all day.
01:07:37 Of course you won't make them jokes.
01:07:39 You in the gym all night, shooting for no reason.
01:07:42 You got a gym membership.
01:07:44 You got a gym membership.
01:07:45 You ain't cool, man.
01:07:46 He ain't handle tape, K.
01:07:48 He didn't handle tape.
01:07:50 I know what you mean.
01:07:51 - I'm talking about no proof that you was
01:07:53 who you said you was.
01:07:54 You could try to show my game,
01:07:55 but everybody in the hood just laughing.
01:07:57 Yeah, Wild 'N Just being funny.
01:07:59 - You went to a strip mall college.
01:08:00 You went to a strip mall college.
01:08:02 - I went to a legendary college.
01:08:03 - That shit was the size of a Chinese store.
01:08:05 That shit was like the size of a corner room.
01:08:07 Get the fuck out of here.
01:08:08 He's a mom.
01:08:09 He's a mom.
01:08:11 Like these boys is crazy, man.
01:08:12 - He was a good fucking wrestling champion, Jim.
01:08:15 - You talking about?
01:08:15 - He was a fucking dick flame.
01:08:16 - Yo, I be in the gym too.
01:08:17 (laughing)
01:08:20 - Get the fuck out of here.
01:08:22 You know that shit.
01:08:24 (laughing)
01:08:25 - And he was the captain of the sewing team.
01:08:27 - Yo, I be in the gym.
01:08:28 - Nick Sweathers was the captain of the sewing team.
01:08:30 Nick Sweathers was named Big Stormy and shit like this.
01:08:33 (laughing)
01:08:35 - And then I be in the gym.
01:08:36 - And he was the chef.
01:08:37 - I be in the gym with this nigga.
01:08:38 This nigga be in the gym shooting these shots,
01:08:40 getting this shit off with these bums.
01:08:41 These dudes never play no real organized ball.
01:08:44 He getting shit off.
01:08:45 He in there staring.
01:08:46 - You seen me do that against Lethal Shooter.
01:08:47 - I'm like.
01:08:48 - You seen me do that against Jalen Ramsey.
01:08:51 - He's a football player.
01:08:52 - You seen me do that against Famous Loose.
01:08:54 - Who's Famous Loose?
01:08:57 - A nigga on Instagram.
01:08:58 - Hey, now they're playing in the league.
01:08:59 - That's not how you play basketball.
01:09:00 - Now they're playing in the college.
01:09:01 They didn't even play college.
01:09:02 - You already seen Rasheed Wallace come up
01:09:03 and say, "No, Gil Cook."
01:09:04 - You already seen Alvin Williams,
01:09:07 Tobacco, that played in the league.
01:09:09 I cook shit.
01:09:10 Ass Cat Mobley.
01:09:12 I cook shit.
01:09:13 - Listen, you super good 'cause I seen you big three,
01:09:16 MVP back to back.
01:09:18 But to Wallow's point,
01:09:19 everybody you named has never been in the league just now.
01:09:22 - Nobody never had no, nobody never.
01:09:24 - Nobody never played in the league.
01:09:25 - You just, you ain't cook the shit.
01:09:26 - That's your favorite.
01:09:26 - That's your favorite.
01:09:27 - I will cook the shit out of Joe Johnson.
01:09:29 - Yo, that's your favorite.
01:09:30 - I will cook the shit out of Joe Johnson.
01:09:33 All the niggas that played in the league.
01:09:33 - Joe Johnson?
01:09:34 - What?
01:09:35 - Joe Johnson.
01:09:36 - Joe Johnson?
01:09:38 - No, I don't fucking Joe Jackson.
01:09:39 - No.
01:09:40 - Joe Johnson?
01:09:41 - No, Joe Johnson.
01:09:42 - Joe Johnson, meet the kids.
01:09:43 - I saw Joe.
01:09:44 (laughing)
01:09:45 - I saw Joe.
01:09:46 - You killed Joe Johnson right now?
01:09:47 - I will cook the shit out of I saw Joe.
01:09:49 - He lying, he lying.
01:09:50 - Okay, this a good one.
01:09:51 - I saw Joe.
01:09:52 - This a good one.
01:09:52 - He lying.
01:09:53 - 'Cause Gil nice, yo.
01:09:54 - What the fuck you mean I'm lying, dog?
01:09:56 - Let me ask you this.
01:09:57 - Everybody I get on the conference call,
01:09:58 I don't even play over 35.
01:10:00 That's disrespecting my game.
01:10:02 That's like playing a parkour.
01:10:04 - You say that, you say that.
01:10:04 - 'Cause you tell me I only play old.
01:10:07 - Okay.
01:10:08 - I only play young.
01:10:09 - You better, let me ask you this question.
01:10:10 And this is just my opinion.
01:10:13 I stopped hating on you a while ago,
01:10:14 so I root for you.
01:10:15 - I appreciate that.
01:10:16 - This nigga Gil is out here killing.
01:10:17 - Thank you, man.
01:10:18 - And I can't kill like this and I was jealous.
01:10:20 - He playing easy.
01:10:21 - But are you better than Jamal Crawford right now?
01:10:25 - Yes.
01:10:26 - Now you're out your damn mouth.
01:10:27 - Thank you, thank you.
01:10:28 Now you know what I'm talking about.
01:10:30 This nigga, hold up, hold up.
01:10:31 This nigga.
01:10:32 - Okay, let me just say this.
01:10:33 Jamal Crawford is gonna get his baskets.
01:10:37 That's what he do.
01:10:38 He cook everybody.
01:10:39 - Okay.
01:10:40 - But guess who else going in the fucking oven?
01:10:41 Jamal fucking Crawford.
01:10:43 He got a fucking grill.
01:10:44 - All right, let's think this in my head.
01:10:46 - I'm like Bubba.
01:10:47 I'm like Bubba Chuck.
01:10:48 I know I'm a liability on my fucking defense,
01:10:51 but guess what?
01:10:53 I'm such a liability on offense
01:10:56 that it don't even matter.
01:10:58 Ask Rowdy Rebel, got him the fuck out of here.
01:11:00 Ask Rob 49, got him the fuck out of here.
01:11:03 Ask Chris Brown, got him the fuck out of here.
01:11:06 - He was talking about a bunch of dudes
01:11:07 that smoke bad weed.
01:11:08 - Got him the fuck out of here.
01:11:09 - These young boys smoke bad weed.
01:11:10 - Hold on, hold on.
01:11:10 - I want you to suffer Jamal Crawford.
01:11:13 - Wait, hold on.
01:11:14 - You see me playing Lethal Shooter.
01:11:16 That nigga's in the gym every day, all day, right?
01:11:20 We playing one-on-one.
01:11:21 Did he have to take me to the basket
01:11:24 and push me out of bounds?
01:11:25 I said, "Damn bro, you playing like this?"
01:11:27 He said, "I gotta win."
01:11:30 Six, four, six, five, 250.
01:11:35 You seen the fuck me cooking the shit out of him?
01:11:37 Back to back.
01:11:38 - I want you to say, "Can, can, can."
01:11:39 - That's the thing.
01:11:40 That's the thing about me.
01:11:41 I don't quit to give a highlight tapes.
01:11:43 All my shit be in a row.
01:11:45 You gon' get baskets in a row.
01:11:48 Six, seven, eight baskets in a row.
01:11:51 - Everything I love.
01:11:52 Most of the time, most of the time in the gym,
01:11:54 Cam, Cam, most of the time in the gym,
01:11:57 99% of the time in the gym,
01:11:59 he's playing against dudes that do two things.
01:12:02 Either smoke bad weed or play with they nose.
01:12:05 So them niggas don't care.
01:12:06 Them niggas don't care.
01:12:07 Them niggas don't care.
01:12:09 They're playing the whole thing.
01:12:10 - So you're hoping, so you're hoping
01:12:12 that they get in the league, chop a smoke bad weed.
01:12:13 - No, I ain't talking about the young folks.
01:12:15 - That's who I'm talking about.
01:12:16 - Young folks, when you be in the gym,
01:12:18 all that niggas play old niggas.
01:12:20 - Old niggas.
01:12:21 - This is what I'm saying.
01:12:22 - They said they play with their nose.
01:12:22 - It's two things, two things.
01:12:24 Now, it's two things real quick.
01:12:25 - These bubs.
01:12:26 - It's two things.
01:12:27 Like I said, I'm not hating on Gil.
01:12:28 I think I MVP in the big three twice back then.
01:12:31 - I helped him get that.
01:12:32 - No, but hold on.
01:12:32 - I was the defense of playin' it.
01:12:33 - Let me say what I gotta say real quick.
01:12:36 But everybody Gil named never been to NBA.
01:12:38 And when it's time to go to NBA,
01:12:40 he always go to Coutinho, Moby.
01:12:42 This is the fourth time we've been together.
01:12:44 - And we're on a team.
01:12:44 - And it's Coutinho, Moby.
01:12:45 - I'm just my man, he my nigga.
01:12:47 - So they can come to me.
01:12:48 All you gotta do is call Jamal Crawford up.
01:12:51 I'll be in Atlanta.
01:12:52 - This nigga's a bum.
01:12:53 - I'll be deep frying.
01:12:54 This nigga's a bum.
01:12:56 - Hey, hey, we had this conversation, Gil.
01:12:58 Stop it, bro.
01:12:59 - Well, all right.
01:13:00 - Yeah.
01:13:01 - Thank you, thank you, thank you.
01:13:03 - Who that?
01:13:04 - Stop it, bro.
01:13:05 - You think that you called Stack up?
01:13:06 - Stack said stop it, bro.
01:13:08 - Do you know how much mileage
01:13:09 Jamal Crawford got on them knees?
01:13:11 - I just watched the talk.
01:13:12 - Hold on.
01:13:13 - What about Isaiah Thomas?
01:13:14 - Hold on, hold on.
01:13:14 - Yo, ask Stack.
01:13:15 - I'm supporting y'all and I'm watching y'all.
01:13:17 Shout out to all y'all, love all y'all.
01:13:18 - Appreciate it.
01:13:19 Hey, yo, Stack, let me ask Stack, yo, Stack.
01:13:21 Can I, yo, Stack.
01:13:22 Stack, Stack.
01:13:23 - So you don't think I'll give Jamal Crawford some baskets?
01:13:26 - Stack, Stack, he said he better
01:13:27 than Jamal Crawford right now.
01:13:29 - Cam, Cam, that's what made me call in.
01:13:33 (laughing)
01:13:37 That's what made me call in.
01:13:39 Yo, you out.
01:13:41 - You out of your mind, man.
01:13:42 - I just had to call in to say stop it, bro.
01:13:44 - He said he knew.
01:13:46 - All right, I'll have his job to do.
01:13:47 - He had to call in and say stop it.
01:13:50 - Y'all hating on my name.
01:13:51 - I told you I ain't gonna.
01:13:52 - Let me just ask you a question.
01:13:54 Do y'all know what the youngins call me?
01:13:56 - What are they now?
01:13:58 - Chaucey Gillups, what's the new one?
01:13:59 What's happening, what's the new one?
01:14:00 - Damian Gillup?
01:14:01 - Yeah, we know the nickname.
01:14:02 - Sam Gilsell.
01:14:04 - You gave yourself all these names.
01:14:06 - Yo, the youngins call me this.
01:14:08 Shea Gilgis Alexander.
01:14:10 (laughing)
01:14:12 Grant Gill.
01:14:13 What I'm really on, you know what they call me?
01:14:18 Mike Giljoy.
01:14:20 No, I'm just saying.
01:14:21 (laughing)
01:14:23 I'm just saying.
01:14:24 - I told you I'm not hating on you,
01:14:25 but you gotta start with Jamal Crawford.
01:14:27 You're going too far.
01:14:28 - I bet you, I bet you, I bet you Jamal Crawford,
01:14:30 listen, right now he on me and Osworth again.
01:14:33 I bet you Jamal Crawford will not accept this challenge.
01:14:37 One on one.
01:14:38 - I'll call him and see.
01:14:41 By tonight I'll have an answer for you.
01:14:43 - One on one, I'm gonna come to wherever he at,
01:14:45 I'm gonna bring my cameras.
01:14:46 - No, no, no, no, we gonna get the money out of it.
01:14:48 We gonna, wait, say, while I'm setting up,
01:14:51 we gonna set it up.
01:14:52 We pay for viewing that.
01:14:53 - Jamal Crawford against Damian Gillup.
01:14:56 - You out your mind, Gil.
01:14:58 I was with you for a minute.
01:15:00 - What Jamal about, six, four?
01:15:01 - Yeah, six.
01:15:02 - That's easy.
01:15:03 - That's why I said Isaiah Thomas, he is size.
01:15:05 - Nah, deep fry Isaiah Thomas, he too little, man.
01:15:09 You gotta be at least six, three, six, four to even.
01:15:12 - Disrespectful to Seattle players, man.
01:15:14 - Dog, dog.
01:15:15 - Seattle is nice, bro.
01:15:17 - Isaiah Thomas is a legend.
01:15:21 I will deep fry his young ass.
01:15:24 Deep oven fry, bro.
01:15:26 My shit is, I shoot better than 70% of the in the NBA.
01:15:30 - You hit his dumb, you hit his dumb.
01:15:32 - Right now.
01:15:33 - That's dumb shit.
01:15:34 - Right now.
01:15:35 - You not shooting when they shooting at.
01:15:36 - Yeah, it is.
01:15:37 - You ain't got the defense on, you hear me?
01:15:39 - Okay, okay, okay, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
01:15:42 You see me playing the big three.
01:15:45 I hit four threes and a four pointer.
01:15:50 Did any of them that played in the big three
01:15:53 hit any of that shit?
01:15:54 I'm confused.
01:15:56 - Yo.
01:15:57 - My shit is Damian, my shit is Damian.
01:15:59 If you're open, it's good.
01:16:01 - You gotta be apprehended.
01:16:02 - You gotta stop a little bit.
01:16:03 - Shootin' is shootin'.
01:16:05 - Yeah, yeah.
01:16:06 - You gotta stop.
01:16:07 - Shootin' is shootin', right?
01:16:08 - You gotta stop.
01:16:09 - Larry, Larry.
01:16:10 - If I hit four threes, if I hit four threes
01:16:14 and a four pointer.
01:16:14 - And then you said Rowdy Rebel and another,
01:16:18 and Rowdy Rebel my man, but you.
01:16:20 - But he garbage, right?
01:16:21 - Nah, nah, I don't know, I just see the highlights.
01:16:23 Everybody highlights is gonna look good on Instagram.
01:16:25 I don't know.
01:16:26 - That's the difference.
01:16:27 I don't do highlights.
01:16:28 I show you baskets in a row.
01:16:29 - You can't fuck with Jamal Crawford.
01:16:32 Everybody else I got your back
01:16:33 and I don't know about Joe Johnson either.
01:16:35 - So name one else, my man.
01:16:37 - I'm the only two.
01:16:38 - Me and Isaiah Thomas, that's perfect
01:16:39 'cause we both left-handed.
01:16:40 - Yeah, that's why I said that.
01:16:42 - Set it up.
01:16:43 Zeke, what you wanna do?
01:16:44 - This is crazy.
01:16:45 - What you wanna do?
01:16:47 - These are the guys that still could be in the league.
01:16:49 - Yeah, that's why I said that.
01:16:50 - Yeah, it ain't like they washed.
01:16:53 - That's the beauty of this.
01:16:53 - That's what's gonna make it good, folks.
01:16:55 - That's the beauty of this because.
01:16:56 - Oh, no, you're not beating this dude.
01:16:59 Let me ask you a question.
01:17:00 Do you not think I'm gonna get off?
01:17:04 - If you don't, see the thing about it,
01:17:06 it depends on how the rules go.
01:17:07 If the loser take the ball out, then maybe.
01:17:10 But if the winner take, the person who scored take
01:17:12 to get the ball back, you may not get the ball.
01:17:16 - I'm done.
01:17:17 - Yeah, wrap it up.
01:17:18 - Yeah, wrap it up.
01:17:19 (laughing)
01:17:20 - I slept the floor like Duke on them.
01:17:21 - Now he Bobby Hurley.
01:17:24 - You cannot steal the ball from Jamal Crawford, bro.
01:17:26 - He can't steal the ball from me.
01:17:28 - Jamal Crawford, the beast.
01:17:29 - Listen, another thing is like this, Gil,
01:17:32 and I'm telling you 'cause I'm not hating on you.
01:17:35 It's a shot clock, you like to catch your breath,
01:17:37 you hold the ball.
01:17:38 - No, no.
01:17:39 - I've seen you, Gil.
01:17:40 - Hold, hold, let me ask you a question.
01:17:41 - I'm telling you.
01:17:42 - How many games did I play the other day
01:17:43 playing against the pros?
01:17:45 - You'll run like seven.
01:17:46 - Yeah, we go.
01:17:47 - Wait, wait, all these played NBA G League and overseas.
01:17:52 - Yo, yo.
01:17:53 - Wait, hold on.
01:17:54 They all play for money, right?
01:17:55 - Yeah.
01:17:56 - What was the record when we left out of that,
01:17:57 you filmed it.
01:17:59 - Who you work for, bro?
01:18:00 - Oh, okay.
01:18:01 - Who you work for?
01:18:02 - No, it's on film.
01:18:03 - No, I asked on film.
01:18:04 - I asked him, what do you have to say?
01:18:06 - Hold on, you wanna pull up the film?
01:18:08 - Yeah, we're shaping the narrative.
01:18:11 - You work for him.
01:18:11 - Yeah, we're shaping the narrative.
01:18:13 - You wanna pull up the film for them?
01:18:14 Where the nigga who's 6'8" is sitting on the floor saying,
01:18:18 I can't believe I lost to this nigga today.
01:18:19 - Where is this guy, who does he play for?
01:18:21 - He played--
01:18:22 - G League.
01:18:23 - 10 years overseas, G League.
01:18:24 - It's a Siskitas Bobcat.
01:18:26 - He played professional ball.
01:18:29 It ain't my fault, you know, we play it.
01:18:33 I'm just saying, I cook professional athletes for a living.
01:18:36 - I got three, Isaiah Thomas, Jamal Crawford, and Iso Joe.
01:18:41 Everything else you got, I got--
01:18:42 - Iso Joe.
01:18:43 - You got credit.
01:18:44 - Joe Johnson.
01:18:45 - Joe Johnson.
01:18:45 - Oh, man.
01:18:46 - You gotta give me a credit.
01:18:47 - Joe Johnson about 6'9", ain't he?
01:18:49 - This is what he said, he cook 'em.
01:18:50 He just said he would cook Joe Johnson.
01:18:52 - I will cook 'em.
01:18:53 - I'm not saying I'm gonna win,
01:18:56 but they gonna be like, "Nah, Gilly was cooking that."
01:18:59 - He gonna block all your shots.
01:19:00 - Now you crazy, them old ass knees, man.
01:19:04 Play 11,000 games, man,
01:19:05 them ass attendants all loose and shit, man.
01:19:08 - He got that too.
01:19:08 - I run like a young, you just seen me beat
01:19:11 my 26-year-old fucking brother in a race.
01:19:13 - Everybody you name don't count, bro.
01:19:16 Naming random people.
01:19:18 - He got me with his mouth.
01:19:19 I cook Wild 'N Out before.
01:19:21 - I'm beating 26-year-old ass in races, man.
01:19:24 Think about that.
01:19:25 - That's crazy.
01:19:26 - Think about your son who walking around you
01:19:29 with his shirt all off like this,
01:19:31 you going outside and beating him in a race right now.
01:19:33 - It depend, I can beat niggas in a race.
01:19:36 - No you can't, Kim, you dead man's voice.
01:19:38 - I can't play basketball for 40 minutes,
01:19:41 but a race, I got a nigga here
01:19:45 that can beat you in a race.
01:19:45 - Get the fuck out of here.
01:19:46 - My man Tito, you know where he go?
01:19:47 - Where's Tito?
01:19:48 - Right there.
01:19:49 - Right here.
01:19:50 - Tito, Tito.
01:19:50 - I cook this shit out of Tito.
01:19:52 - $100 when it's over, he beat you in a race.
01:19:55 - I cook the shit out of Tito.
01:19:58 Tito, I don't even know what you race in here.
01:20:00 You volunteered for a cooking.
01:20:02 Tito's 20.
01:20:03 Tito, why you 23, man?
01:20:05 - Nah, Tito's 46.
01:20:07 - Tito, how old is you?
01:20:08 No, how old is you for real, Tito?
01:20:10 - 27, March 23rd.
01:20:12 - Y'all the same age.
01:20:12 - Oh, you talking about that old nigga?
01:20:14 - Yes, yes.
01:20:15 - I thought you was talking about youngin' in a backyard.
01:20:17 I cook this shit out.
01:20:18 - It's a race, it's a bet.
01:20:20 - I will cook this shit out of him.
01:20:22 - Yes.
01:20:23 - He race this here, and I'm talking to you.
01:20:25 - No, no.
01:20:26 - That old ass nigga.
01:20:28 - $100, y'all the same age.
01:20:31 - He'll go smoke.
01:20:31 - Dog, I will run him out them black horses.
01:20:35 - Side bet, side bet.
01:20:36 - What the fuck is you talking about?
01:20:37 - That's a side bet.
01:20:38 - Yeah.
01:20:39 - That nigga is all.
01:20:40 - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
01:20:41 - He's stuffing up top.
01:20:42 - No, no, no, no, this what I'm gonna do.
01:20:43 I'm a lady.
01:20:44 - That nigga all up top.
01:20:46 - 200 to your 100.
01:20:47 - You can bet more.
01:20:49 - That nigga all up top, Jesus.
01:20:51 - I bet, it's two up to my 100.
01:20:52 - ACL might be up to that.
01:20:54 - That's a bet.
01:20:55 - Yeah.
01:20:56 - Cubs, you better cook it.
01:20:57 - That nigga got muscles, ain't he?
01:20:58 - We got.
01:20:58 - He's gotta run like this, he ain't.
01:21:00 He can't even run like this.
01:21:01 - You gonna be sad after this, get it?
01:21:03 Then after I'm gonna run it down.
01:21:04 - He's stretching his shit.
01:21:06 (laughing)
01:21:08 - He's on his show.
01:21:09 - He's on his show.
01:21:09 - He's on his show.
01:21:10 - Yeah, man.
01:21:11 - Yeah.
01:21:12 - He's on his show.
01:21:13 - Yes.
01:21:14 - He's on his show.
01:21:14 - He's on his show.
01:21:15 - You're right.
01:21:16 - Yes.
01:21:17 - Yeah.
01:21:18 - Wow, what a nigga.
01:21:19 - All right, bet.
01:21:20 - When this over, we going right outside.
01:21:21 - Right here.
01:21:22 - Right on the street.
01:21:23 - Outside.
01:21:24 - Right there.
01:21:24 - Ain't nobody coming down the block.
01:21:25 - I don't give a fuck about none of this.
01:21:27 - You think you're gonna give me two to one odds.
01:21:28 - You think I'm letting the whole here
01:21:30 that smoke reefer beat me, man?
01:21:31 - All right, good God.
01:21:32 - You still smoke reefer, man.
01:21:34 (laughing)
01:21:34 - He's stretched, look, he's stretched.
01:21:36 He over there sweating, look.
01:21:37 - All right.
01:21:38 - Look at the sweat coming down.
01:21:40 All he did was stretch.
01:21:40 - All we did.
01:21:41 - Look at it.
01:21:42 - We ain't gotta talk about it no more.
01:21:43 - All he did was stretch, though.
01:21:45 - Let's get to the work, come on, let's get to it.
01:21:46 - Let's get to it.
01:21:47 - It's just like that.
01:21:48 - Hold, hold.
01:21:49 - We gotta get this motherfucker out of here.
01:21:51 - I know, I just, come on, man.
01:21:53 - Let me get this money, man.
01:21:53 (door slams)
01:21:54 - Hey, let me get the winner, I'll take the winner.
01:21:56 (laughing)
01:21:58 I'll take the winner, 'cause I know I'm smoking.
01:22:00 - For we the win, Mase.
01:22:01 - Stop signing the win.
01:22:02 - Stop sign.
01:22:03 - Can I get the winner?
01:22:05 - Gilly look like he's walking slow down there.
01:22:08 They gonna smoke Gilly.
01:22:10 - That's uphill, too.
01:22:11 - He wanted that nigga Gilly, he wanna go downhill.
01:22:14 - I'm gonna stay up there so we can make sure
01:22:15 niggas ain't in front of niggas.
01:22:17 - You running now, too?
01:22:18 - No, I'm gonna be down here to save one.
01:22:21 - Come on, Mase.
01:22:22 - I'm gonna lift my hand if the left side win
01:22:26 or the right side win.
01:22:27 (laughing)
01:22:30 I'm clocking your time.
01:22:37 - My hamstring acting up today.
01:22:43 - Yo, make sure you get that on camera,
01:22:45 'cause Mase might cheat.
01:22:46 - Ready, set, go.
01:22:50 (yelling)
01:22:52 - Who won?
01:22:59 - I don't know.
01:22:59 - I won.
01:23:00 - Get those cats, go to the tape.
01:23:02 - I knew Tito won.
01:23:04 - Tito won.
01:23:05 - You grab me in the leg.
01:23:07 (laughing)
01:23:07 You (beep) my nut up, man.
01:23:09 (yelling)
01:23:11 - You won.
01:23:12 - You won.
01:23:13 - You won.
01:23:14 - You won, 852.
01:23:15 - 'Cause you had him.
01:23:17 - Everybody was watching.
01:23:18 You had him at first.
01:23:20 (laughing)
01:23:22 - What do we do when we win this money?
01:23:27 - We rip it up.
01:23:28 - What?
01:23:28 - When we win this money?
01:23:29 - You better not do that, nigga.
01:23:30 (laughing)
01:23:32 - You don't take my money, man.
01:23:35 (yelling)
01:23:37 - I had you in the stats, bro.
01:23:39 - I was down.
01:23:40 - That's money from '88.
01:23:42 - Yeah.
01:23:42 - That's how I feel about Gilly right there.
01:23:46 (laughing)
01:23:48 - Money so good here, man.
01:23:51 (cheering)
01:23:54 (laughing)
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