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00:02 - Hello and welcome to Kent on Climate live on KMTV.
00:08 I'm Abbey Hook and in this show we discuss
00:10 all things related to environmental issues in the county.
00:13 How is climate change impacting Kent?
00:15 What's the communities in the county doing to tackle it
00:18 and how can you help at home?
00:20 Each week we take a deep dive
00:21 into a new environmental issue in the county
00:23 and I'm joined by expert guests.
00:26 But first tonight, what is blue tongue?
00:28 Well, the viral disease that affects animals
00:30 such as cattle and sheep.
00:32 And it's hit Kent for the first time in more than 10 years.
00:35 The UK has been free of the virus since 2011
00:38 and poses no threat to humans
00:40 but could affect local farming here in Kent.
00:42 Well, with us now is Steve Jones,
00:45 a local farmer from Mepham.
00:47 Thank you so much Steve for joining me today.
00:49 Now, firstly, explain to us what blue tongue is.
00:52 - It's just a nasty little virus
00:54 that's spread around the place by midges.
00:57 We're lucky around us,
00:58 we don't suffer too badly with midges in this country
01:02 but places where there's a lot of ditches and dikes,
01:05 they breed quite profusely.
01:07 - And we've seen a 10 kilometer sort of cordon
01:09 put around a farm in Canterbury.
01:11 How worried are you?
01:13 What kind of risk do you feel that could pose to your farm?
01:16 - Thankfully at the moment, we're going into the winter
01:18 so the midge problem will be reducing anyway.
01:22 It is just one case and it showed up
01:25 in the sort of routine tests testing
01:28 that we all tend to do.
01:30 So our vet's coming next week
01:32 to do a routine test just to check.
01:34 - And how much of a problem actually is this?
01:38 'Cause we hear a lot from farmers
01:40 that actually they don't want blue tongue
01:42 and the reporting of blue tongue
01:43 to be blown out of proportion.
01:45 We want it to be,
01:46 they want it to be reported accurately of course
01:48 and not fear monger, I suppose.
01:50 How much are you concerned
01:53 about the actual reporting of it, I suppose?
01:55 - So far it's not been too bad.
01:57 Blue tongue's not as nasty as say avian flu
02:00 because it's much further away from a human virus
02:03 so the chances of it jumping are greatly reduced.
02:06 So it's not as terrible as some things can be.
02:10 It's not particularly debilitating.
02:12 Animals aren't bad with it.
02:14 The real problem is it slows export markets down
02:17 and that sort of thing and slows movements down.
02:20 You can't move animals around.
02:22 So that's a bit of a trouble.
02:24 - So what sort of explain from people who aren't farmers,
02:27 have no idea what it means to you and how it could impact.
02:32 What could we see the resulting effect be on the county
02:35 with such a hub for agriculture here in Kent
02:38 and of course farming?
02:39 So what sort of delays are we talking about?
02:41 Will we not see steaks and meat in the shops?
02:44 Is that the worry?
02:46 - Well perhaps I should say,
02:46 "Oh yes, it's all gonna go so rush out and buy it now."
02:49 But no, that is not a worry.
02:52 Please do not worry about your T-bones.
02:54 They will be fine.
02:55 There's just a bit of a problem with cattle
02:58 'cause it does reduce the productivity.
03:00 Deaths are very rare from it in actual fact
03:03 but it can mess up pregnancies and that sort of thing
03:07 if you get it at the wrong time.
03:09 But no, it's not going to be deeply significant
03:12 on a Kent-wide basis.
03:14 It's just gonna be a real problem for people to get it.
03:18 - It's important to dispel some of those myths with it
03:20 because we see these headlines
03:21 and we're fearful of what this could mean for cattle
03:25 and livestock that you own.
03:27 What's the actual sort of,
03:29 you spoke about vaccinations, a trip from the vet.
03:31 What does that sort of entail?
03:33 Do you take each cow in?
03:34 How do you go about vaccinating a cow?
03:36 - Well you just run them up at what we call a race
03:40 which is two gates opposite each other.
03:42 So you make an alleyway and you run them up there
03:45 and you have what we call a crush
03:47 which you just hold their heads
03:48 and you just give them a quick injection and they run out.
03:50 They're fairly used to it.
03:51 They do it a lot for pregnancy detection
03:54 and all that sort of stuff
03:55 and anything we do to handle them,
03:56 we handle them in a race
03:58 because it's safer for us and them.
04:00 So yeah, that's not a problem.
04:02 The problem we have with this one
04:03 is this is the version three blue tongue.
04:06 We don't have a vaccine for that.
04:09 We have it for one, two, four and eight, but not for three.
04:12 So we can't vaccinate them at the moment.
04:15 - Okay, and what would need to come more research,
04:18 more into it or is it just not possible?
04:21 - No, it's possible, but it will take some time
04:24 to develop that vaccine.
04:26 - Okay, I see.
04:27 And what are some of the ways, I suppose,
04:28 if you're taking a cow,
04:30 I believe the case in Canterbury, it was just the one cow.
04:33 So how do you go about,
04:34 do you separate them from the rest of the cows
04:36 or how do you go about treating it?
04:38 - I mean, to be honest,
04:39 if you've got it in one cow, it's about,
04:42 you know, then you're a bit messed up.
04:43 What you've got to do is stop it spreading to other herds.
04:47 So that's why you have the exclusion zone
04:49 and there's movement restrictions within that
04:51 so that you can't just move them out to somewhere else
04:54 and then spread it around.
04:56 - And of course, as you mentioned,
04:57 right at the start to do with midges and the colder weather,
04:59 but perhaps we're seeing it
05:01 because of that really hot period
05:02 we had just a couple of months ago.
05:04 So is that a concern for you as a farmer,
05:06 the concept and the aspect of climate change
05:08 coming in here and a warming environment,
05:10 bringing these midges?
05:12 - Yes, we are having to deal more now
05:14 with things that are normally much further south.
05:17 So, I mean, the Asian Hornet thing is a problem,
05:21 you know, and that's,
05:22 so we're seeing a lot more of this now.
05:25 We're sort of all looking at what was happening in Normandy
05:29 sort of 10 years ago, because that's where we are now.
05:32 We're in the same way as you're seeing vine growing,
05:36 moving further north,
05:37 you're seeing all the problems moving further north as well.
05:40 - And I suppose the concern is,
05:41 do you have the infrastructure
05:42 to deal with that here in Kent?
05:44 - Yes, we'll be fine.
05:47 - Farmers are hardy and sturdy,
05:49 you get through everything, don't you?
05:50 - Yeah, we have to, don't you?
05:51 - Yeah, you have to to keep it going.
05:53 Well, Steve, it's been lovely to talk to you.
05:54 Thank you so much for dispelling some of those myths
05:57 and talking it through and explaining actually
05:59 what the real concerns are and where they lie.
06:01 But thank you very much for coming in.
06:02 - You're very welcome, it's been a pleasure.
06:04 - Next tonight, a popular Canterbury tourist attraction,
06:09 Dane John Mount, has been added
06:11 to Historic England's register of heritage sites at risk,
06:14 alongside 15 other sites in the southeast.
06:17 Once a medieval moat and mealy castle,
06:19 the mound has been victim of its own success,
06:22 with erosion threatening its integrity.
06:24 Canterbury City Council is providing money
06:26 from the Leveling Up Fund to help preserve the site.
06:29 Historic England say this money is vital
06:32 for keeping history alive.
06:34 - In broadest terms, people value these places,
06:38 and if we don't look after them,
06:40 keep them in a reasonable state of repair,
06:43 there's the potential that they are lost forever
06:46 or they become so dangerous that people can't access them
06:49 and they kind of come, they go off our radar, if you like.
06:52 So, so often these monuments are treasured
06:57 and valued locally, that they're important
07:00 in terms of people understanding the history
07:03 of where they live, they give a kind of sense
07:05 of connectedness, rootedness.
07:07 - Next tonight, a climate-friendly Christmas
07:11 and a sustainable life.
07:13 The message to young people in Ashford
07:14 who visit Singleton Spaces.
07:16 The centre runs educational programmes,
07:18 wildlife talks and eco, wildlife walks even,
07:22 and eco talks.
07:23 Children and volunteers of all ages have helped
07:25 to build a biodiversity haven.
07:28 The charity says it not only helps the environment,
07:30 but hopes to educate more about the world we live in.
07:33 Helen King, the education officer for Singleton Spaces,
07:36 joined me recently to tell us all about what they do
07:39 and even brought in some of their eco-friendly decorations.
07:43 Helen, thank you so much for coming in today
07:46 and bringing some great decorations
07:48 that we'll be getting to very shortly.
07:50 But firstly, just explain where you're from,
07:53 what your charity is and what it's all about.
07:55 - Okay, lovely.
07:56 Well, thanks for having us in today.
07:57 So I'm Helen, I'm education officer for Singleton Spaces,
08:00 which operates Singleton Environment Centre in Ashford.
08:04 So we are, it's an amazing building.
08:07 We have loads of different groups come out with us
08:10 and we are really about promoting environment education
08:15 and understanding of the importance of the environment.
08:18 - And why do you think it is so important?
08:19 Because it's not really something that's taught in schools.
08:22 It's, there's no lesson, I suppose, on the environment.
08:24 You have geography and things like that,
08:26 but you don't actually learn specifically
08:28 about what you're teaching.
08:29 - No, absolutely.
08:30 So we feel it's really important
08:32 because we just need to look after the planet
08:34 for our children and for our children's children
08:36 and to make sure that it is still there for everybody
08:38 to have a wonderful place to live.
08:40 So we've only got one planet, it's pretty special.
08:44 And we really do believe that if we teach children
08:46 from an early age, the importance of nature
08:49 and their local environment,
08:50 then they can really help to make a difference
08:52 and protect it for the future.
08:53 - And a really key thing is engagement.
08:55 And this is all part of how you keep young people engaged.
08:57 So talk us through some of the wonderful things
09:00 we have on the table here.
09:01 - Okay, so all of our wooden items here
09:03 have been made by our repair cafe,
09:07 which operates from there.
09:08 They are volunteers and they repair any items
09:12 that people have got at home.
09:13 So rather than just throwing away items
09:15 that no longer work, whether it's electrical goods,
09:18 wooden items, toys, anything cut home,
09:21 if it's not working, they bring it down
09:23 and the volunteers will do their best
09:25 to try and fix it for them.
09:27 But as part of that, they've made some wonderful,
09:29 environmentally friendly Christmas decorations here.
09:32 We'll lift up one of these.
09:33 I think we should be able to see now.
09:35 I'll be careful 'cause it's not stuck on.
09:36 But the idea of this one is that it's on the back of a CD
09:40 hanging up on the tree and it twinkles in the light.
09:42 - That's for the children to make.
09:44 So it's all recycled products.
09:45 The wooden items here were all made
09:47 from reclaimed wood as well.
09:49 So it's all just really encouraging that
09:52 to make sure that we don't throw anything away.
09:54 We try and repurpose and reuse.
09:56 - And it's stuff you can then use every single year.
09:59 I love the Christmas tree here.
10:00 We've got a decoration on there
10:01 made by one of the children.
10:02 And also wanted to bring in some of these earrings as well.
10:05 So all of these will be sold as well.
10:08 Demonstration on the screen there, lovely.
10:10 All of these will be sold as well.
10:11 What sort of prices and where does that money go?
10:14 - So the profits that come from it all goes into the centre
10:17 so that we can continue with the education work
10:19 so that we can have school visits come out to us
10:22 and that we can make all of our community events
10:25 as cheap as possible
10:27 so that we can get a real widespread audience, really.
10:30 So it helps us with just running
10:31 all the activities that are there.
10:33 So the price ranges all range.
10:35 The range that we've got here, this is our smallest ones.
10:37 They go up to really big ones.
10:39 The earrings are around five pounds a pair
10:43 but there is a whole range.
10:44 So there'll be something for everybody that is available.
10:47 - Amazing.
10:48 Well, Helen, thank you so much for coming in.
10:49 It's really inspirational
10:50 what you're doing to help young people.
10:51 And we look forward to seeing
10:52 what you've got in the new year as well
10:53 and how your Christmas went.
10:54 - Thank you. - Thank you very much.
10:57 - Well, hopefully that's inspired you
10:58 to get decorating already.
10:59 I know it's November
11:00 but you can't fight the Christmas spirit.
11:02 Now it's time to take a very quick look at the weather.
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11:08 This evening looking pretty mild.
11:13 Lows of four degrees, highs of six over in Dover
11:16 but no rain.
11:17 By the morning though, rain right across the county.
11:20 Temperatures are between eight and nine degrees.
11:23 By the afternoon, much the same,
11:25 warming up just a degree to nine across most of Kent.
11:29 And the next few days looking pretty mixed.
11:31 Friday, a spot of rain in Chatham
11:33 but sunny and cloudy elsewhere.
11:35 Saturday, rain, Sunday, mixed.
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11:40 Now it's time for a very short break
11:42 but coming up, Kent starts to enter the fall months
11:45 and the temperature drops.
11:47 How can we take care of our local wildlife?
11:49 Well, our reporter Daisy will be here
11:51 to give us all the helpful tips and tricks.
11:54 See you in a few minutes.
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14:55 - Hello and welcome back to Kent on Climate
15:02 live on KMTV.
15:03 Now as Kent starts to enter the fall months
15:06 and the temperature drops,
15:07 how can we take care of our local wildlife?
15:09 Birds start to migrate into Kent
15:11 and they can be fascinating to watch.
15:13 But how can we support our garden birds
15:15 throughout this colder season?
15:16 Well, joining me on the sofa now is Daisy Page
15:18 to talk to us more about the importance
15:20 of wildlife this winter.
15:22 So Daisy, I know you're a very keen bird watcher
15:25 and you feed them in your garden.
15:27 So tell me a bit more about that
15:28 and what's so important, I suppose.
15:30 - Yeah, so in my garden,
15:31 I've only just started feeding them in the recent months
15:34 as I brought a bird feeder
15:35 and I've had loads of sparrows and robins come in
15:38 only recently though,
15:39 because they've had to find their way
15:41 and find their way into my garden.
15:43 And if you're looking to feed birds this winter,
15:46 it's really important and it can help you loads,
15:48 but make sure that you do your research
15:50 before you actually decide to feed them
15:52 as much as us during winter and summer,
15:56 our diet needs can change
15:57 and that's the same for wildlife as well.
15:59 So make sure that you do your research.
16:01 An important thing to remember as well
16:05 is that if you are deciding to feed birds,
16:07 especially if you're starting in the summer,
16:09 is not to finish in the winter,
16:11 because as we start to enter the December months,
16:13 at the moment, all the birds are out in the wild,
16:15 eating the berries,
16:17 but in December, all those berries will be gone
16:19 and resources will be limited.
16:21 So the birds will start to return to feeders that they know.
16:24 So it's really important not to just stop
16:26 just because you can't see them around anymore.
16:28 - And I suppose keep that a feeder that they know
16:30 that they can keep coming back to
16:32 and to head out even if it's a bit colder
16:34 or rainy outside to top back up the feeder.
16:36 - Oh yeah, 100% and whether you do it weekly or daily,
16:40 just keep into that routine
16:41 because they'll start learning where you are
16:45 and my birds, they know what time I feed them now
16:47 and when you walk out, you see them watching you.
16:49 But to find out a little bit more,
16:51 I talked to Steve from the RSPB Maidstone
16:54 to find out how we can help them.
16:55 - A pond, small pond, everything thrives on water
17:01 and to help birds,
17:04 birds depend on food you give them and insects.
17:07 So you build, if you can put plants in your garden
17:10 that attract wildlife, perennials,
17:14 the favourite colour of bees is blue.
17:17 So that's why you see blue plants like lavender,
17:20 for example, they're attracted to blue plants.
17:23 So if you can get insects coming into your garden,
17:26 that will attract birds
17:28 'cause the birds feed on the insects.
17:29 It's a 24 hour circle.
17:32 Generally the birds you're seeing in your garden
17:34 throughout the winter are those that you're gonna see
17:37 throughout Maidstone, for example, throughout the year.
17:40 It's just that they become more and more dependent on you
17:43 as the winters get harsher
17:45 and the food supply in the woods, for example,
17:48 gets less and less.
17:50 - And we've heard there from the RSPB,
17:52 but what sort of tips can you give us?
17:55 - So I think if you are feeding your birds,
17:57 even, so mine is just outside my window of the kitchen.
17:59 So maybe when you're making a cup of tea,
18:01 just take five minutes to try
18:02 and recognise the birds that you're feeding.
18:05 There's loads of resources online
18:06 if you don't know where to start to identify them,
18:09 but then have a research to see
18:10 what that bird might actually enjoy.
18:13 So lots of different birds might enjoy different things
18:15 and I will start increasing like more fatty foods
18:18 as we start getting to the colder seasons as well.
18:20 And on my chat with Steve, which actually wasn't included,
18:23 he says when they actually start having babies,
18:25 not to feed them peanuts,
18:27 because obviously the birds pass on their food
18:30 and that can actually be really hazardous,
18:32 like a big hazard for the younger chicks.
18:34 So just make sure to read up before feeding them.
18:37 But if you don't have your garden
18:38 and you're looking to actually feed birds as well,
18:42 or just go out and see them,
18:43 we're actually entering a prime time for bird watching,
18:45 which not many people know.
18:47 So prime time is obviously early winter
18:50 all the way through to spring.
18:51 This is when you'll actually see an increase of birds,
18:53 whether they're migrating
18:55 or just all like a year long birds visiting us here.
19:00 But I would just say, make sure you do lots of research.
19:02 You can find how to identify birds,
19:05 you could join clubs and also how to feed them.
19:08 - Well, next time you come
19:08 and you need to bring your bird watching binoculars,
19:10 give us a bit of a show and tell.
19:13 And also just Daisy, very lastly, very quickly,
19:16 what was your favourite thing
19:17 about the birds that visit your garden?
19:19 - My favourite thing is the fact
19:20 that they know when I'm gonna feed them
19:22 and I can just see them all gathering around.
19:24 And then when I go back inside
19:25 that they're all just run to the feeders.
19:28 - That's amazing.
19:28 You've got some wildlife pets there.
19:30 Next time you come back on,
19:31 I hope you've got names for them all.
19:33 Thank you so much, Daisy.
19:36 Some good tips there from Daisy.
19:38 Now next tonight, a North Fleet school
19:39 had a very special guest
19:41 as Britain's first astronaut landed on their assembly stage.
19:44 Dr. Helen Sherman highlighted the importance of STEM,
19:47 our environment and universe,
19:49 as well as going to university.
19:50 Oliver Leder de Sacks went along to find out more.
19:54 - It may look like a normal day here in Gravesham,
19:56 but behind the school gates
19:57 here at North Fleet School for Girls,
19:59 something out of this world is taking place.
20:02 Dr. Helen Sherman was just 27
20:04 when she became the first British person in space.
20:08 Now the UK's first female astronaut has returned to Earth
20:11 to inspire the next generation to follow in her footsteps,
20:14 giving a talk to students
20:15 in the hopes of encouraging more of them
20:17 to go into STEM and further education.
20:20 - Wouldn't that be great if some students
20:21 from North Fleet School for Girls
20:23 become astronauts in the future?
20:25 Absolutely fabulous.
20:26 But really what I'm hoping to do today
20:28 is to encourage those who might have an aptitude
20:33 for STEM subjects to consider continuing
20:36 those subjects after school,
20:38 to encourage everybody to take STEM on board in their lives.
20:42 And for those students who think that university
20:44 might not be for them just because,
20:47 well, they don't know anybody in their family
20:49 who's been to university possibly,
20:50 to say, you know what, it might just be for you.
20:53 - They say you can't hear anything in space,
20:56 but the applause she received,
20:57 both appearing and exiting from the stage,
21:00 might challenge that hypothesis.
21:02 Both teachers and students alike
21:03 were brought into her orbit
21:05 as she recounted her experience
21:06 aboard the Mir space station
21:08 alongside her Soviet Union colleagues,
21:11 as well as giving top tips for getting into university.
21:14 I caught up with a few of the science student ambassadors
21:17 after Sherman's stellar talk
21:19 to find out about how the astronaut inspired them.
21:22 - Oh my God, so in the beginning,
21:23 since the moment I shook my hand to that,
21:25 I think that was just amazing.
21:26 Literally, we were so nervous to meet the first astronaut.
21:29 It's such a big privilege.
21:30 And after hearing her up on stage,
21:32 that was just beautiful.
21:33 That was so inspirational.
21:35 And that just makes me want to pursue STEM more as a career
21:38 when I already have the chance.
21:40 - Yeah, meeting her was just crazy
21:42 because I thought she would be like really uptight,
21:44 serious, sophisticated.
21:46 But as I learned more about her,
21:48 she's just a regular person
21:49 that just went to space one day.
21:51 - Miss Deamer is one of the all-female
21:53 science department at the school.
21:54 She organized the talk
21:55 and says the atmosphere has been palatable for weeks.
21:58 - Really excited.
21:59 The buildup has been massive.
22:01 So we introduced that she was coming to the school
22:03 in space week during assemblies.
22:06 And our science ambassadors have been preparing.
22:08 They've all been writing poems
22:10 and drawing pictures
22:11 and they've made a book of things
22:15 that they feel she said that has encouraged them
22:19 and inspired them.
22:20 And so, yeah, we've been really, really excited
22:23 that she's come here.
22:25 - If one thing is clear today,
22:26 having spoken to staff and students
22:28 here at Northfleet School for Girls,
22:30 it's that the future is bright for STEM,
22:33 here on Earth and up amongst the stars.
22:36 I'll leave it to the SACs for KMTV.
22:39 And finally this evening,
22:40 the Kent Company Driving a Green Agenda.
22:43 Nichols Transport are back on Kent on Climate
22:45 after winning at the Supply Chain Excellence Awards.
22:48 They won the Clean Transport Award
22:50 for their efforts in making their transport
22:52 more sustainable and eco-friendly.
22:54 I'm gonna get this name wrong.
22:55 They use photovoltaic cells
22:58 to produce renewable energy for the site,
23:00 alongside planting more than 5,000 shrubs and trees.
23:03 Well, to tell me exactly how to pronounce that
23:05 is Rob Gearing, head of commercial
23:06 and business development at Nichols Transport.
23:09 And we can't ignore the model you have with you as well.
23:12 We have to welcome that into the show, Rob.
23:15 Firstly, congratulations.
23:17 Why is an award like this so important to you?
23:19 - It's a very prestigious award in the industry
23:24 and we enter many awards.
23:26 Never expecting to win any of them,
23:28 but as I said last week on the show,
23:30 to publicise what we're doing
23:32 so we can encourage more audience to do their bit.
23:36 And we were up against some massive names last week,
23:39 massive companies, and we weren't expecting to win at all.
23:43 And it was a massive shock.
23:46 But yes, that's why winning these awards is so important.
23:50 This is the SED Award,
23:53 which is in private place in our office.
23:55 If we can just encourage one or two more holders
24:00 to follow on what we're doing,
24:02 we'll be doing our bit to save the planet.
24:04 As I said last week, the biggest threat to our planet
24:07 is the belief that someone else will save it.
24:09 Unless we all start doing our bit,
24:11 we're going to be in trouble.
24:12 - You could tell you were so shocked by the award.
24:16 I mean, I mentioned in my introduction
24:17 that a few things that you're doing,
24:19 5,000 shrubs and trees planting.
24:21 But I think I have to ask you, why do you think you won?
24:24 What sets you apart from your competitors?
24:26 - I think because we are a family business
24:31 who have invested in these trucks, which are gas trucks.
24:35 They run on biomethane and produce 191% less CO2
24:40 than a normal diesel truck.
24:44 Pro rata, what we spend compared to lots of the big companies
24:48 for the size of the company,
24:50 we outweigh, our spend outweighs what they're spending.
24:53 So that's, I think, what won us the awards.
24:59 And it is a massive, massive honor for us.
25:01 I can't emphasize enough about what we've won.
25:06 It's one of the most prestigious awards out there.
25:12 So yeah, it's massive.
25:15 - And as you said, an award like that, it doesn't come easy.
25:17 So what would you say are some of the biggest challenges
25:20 you faced as a company to maintain this eco status?
25:24 Because it isn't easy and it's expensive too.
25:28 - It's very expensive.
25:30 Last year, the price of gas went up
25:33 as it did for everybody in their households.
25:34 It went up for the trucks as well.
25:37 And we actually, off our bottom line,
25:41 we probably lost about 300,000 pounds last year
25:43 because of what we were doing.
25:46 We could have parked the trucks up,
25:47 we could have not used them,
25:48 but that's not what it's about.
25:49 It's about doing our bit.
25:52 We can't just not do things because it costs more money.
25:55 We need to emphasize that with everybody that we do.
26:00 And we've got some customers that are timber customers
26:03 who actually grow timber.
26:05 It's sustainable.
26:08 They ship it over on ships which are running on LNG.
26:12 That's sustainable.
26:13 And we deliver it on our gas trucks.
26:16 So we've got a complete cycle going through
26:20 of what we can do to do our bit for the minute.
26:24 - And Rob, in one word, sum up what the award means to you.
26:29 - I slept with it under my pillow, Abby.
26:33 That's what it means to me.
26:34 - Amazing.
26:35 - And it means the world to me.
26:37 - That's all the explanation we need.
26:39 Thank you so much, Rob, for joining us.
26:40 And congratulations to you
26:42 and everyone at Nicholls Transport.
26:43 Thank you.
26:44 - Thank you.
26:46 - That's all we've got time for on this week's episode
26:48 of Kent on Climate.
26:49 Goodbye.
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