Germany’s Tier 3 Scouting Problem and How To Fix It! - War Thunder

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At tier 3 Germany gains access to some of its best and well known tanks, from the Tiger and Panther tanks to the Nashorn tank destroyer and the iconic Wirberwind SPAA.

However one glaring ommision at this tier is a German scouting vehicle, with the only German scouting vehicle at this tier being the Sd.Kfz 234/4, which can only be obtained by coughing up nearly 200 dollars on the Gaijin Market.

So in this episode we will take a look at what this lack of scouting vehicles means for German players at this tier, what effects it can have and how it can be solved!

What is Germany's tier 3 scouting problem?: 00:00
How can it be fixed?: 04:10
Potential German World War II scouting vehicles: 04:51
Potential German Cold War scouting vehicles: 06:18
Potential scouting vehicles from other nations: 09:19
Final Thoughts: 11:39

Sources
Foss, C. (1984). Janes Light Tanks And Armoured Cars. [Online] Available at: https://shorturl.at/bhkKR

Chamberlain, P., & Doyle, H. L. (1978). Encyclopedia of German Tanks of World War Two. Retrieved from https://shorturl.at/eprvw

Link to images of the Sonderwagen II and Alvis Saladin: https://shorturl.at/pKZ26

Link to Stuhlfleisch's Sonderwagen IIa suggestion page : https://forum.warthunder.com/t/sonderwagen-iia/8383

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Transcript
00:00When it comes to the German tech tree, starting 
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undefined:undefinedof course the Wirbelwind SPAA vehicle.
00:23However one area Germany suffers in 
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00:49This means that for tiers 2-3 and a large part of 
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undefined:undefinedused against tier 3 enemies and if used in tier  
01:174 will leave players at a severe disadvantage 
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undefined:undefinedpointless to use this vehicle past tier 3 and  
01:42indeed leaving you without a scouting vehicle 
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undefined:undefinedthe popularity of Germany among players you will  
02:06often be in a situation where just one team is 
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undefined:undefinedRussian’s having the small ASU-57 or modern  
02:32PT-76B with its 200mm penetrating HEAT shells, the 
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undefined:undefinedthey can spot targets for the rest of  
02:54the team and also have a good chance of 
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03:14the effectiveness of the long range and 
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undefined:undefinedsmall part to contribute to the poor performance  
03:35of German teams, as at tier 3 they are operating 
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03:58vulnerable on their flanks, while conversely their 
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undefined:undefinedhas been done with the M24 Chaffee, which is tier  
04:232 in the US tech tree but tier 3 in the Japanese 
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undefined:undefinedeither the World War II or Cold War era.
04:50So, what vehicles would be good contenders 
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undefined:undefinedgun as used on the Marder III H,  
05:12but of course this was added as an event vehicle 
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undefined:undefinedwhile retaining a respectable top speed of  
05:3631mph or 50kmh, though as this was designed as 
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undefined:undefinedis often mentioned is the Luchs,  
05:57which I have covered in a previous video on German 
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undefined:undefinedthough again it could work at tiers 1 or 2.
06:17So, we haven’t got too many good World War 
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06:37A good first candidate could 
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undefined:undefined90kmh going forward and in reverse,  
06:59this vehicle would certainly fit the bill 
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07:18it only carries an infrared searchlight or 
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undefined:undefinedarmament, which consists of the Rh202 20mm cannon,  
07:411 x 7.62mm machine gun and 4 smoke dischargers, 
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undefined:undefinedrange will not guarantee penetration against some  
08:08enemies. However, this still seems like a pretty 
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undefined:undefinedpowerful scouting vehicles to complement it.
08:34Lastly for German domestically produced vehicles 
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09:01would give it an ingame penetration of around 
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09:24with various drawbacks, which I think does explain 
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09:47at British Cold War tanks I’d like to see added 
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10:15by sloping, making it effective in the anti-tank 
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undefined:undefinedthis a very effective all-around scouting vehicle.
10:39Lastly, we have the Soviet PT-76B, which 
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undefined:undefinedarmour and a 76mm gun with a 2-plane gun  
11:06stabilizer. The gun itself is a bit of a mixed 
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undefined:undefinedmassively evens the odds against enemy tanks,  
11:33while still handicapped by its light 
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11:54as they are both German designed vehicles 
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undefined:undefinedmuch better as a scouting vehicle.
12:14As a backup choice I think the Saladin 
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12:33In recent updates we have seen Gaijin 
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