What will be PTI next plan of action following SC's verdict??
What will be PTI next plan of action following SC's verdict??
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00:00 I'm a senior to my own.
00:02 Obviously,
00:03 the people you pointed out,
00:05 there was an Islamic State DCB,
00:08 and other people were there.
00:10 But when this petition was given,
00:13 and the issues that came after that,
00:16 didn't the stay order suit you?
00:19 Didn't the delay of elections suit you?
00:21 According to your leaders.
00:24 So ultimately,
00:25 the decision that has come now,
00:27 it will have the same DROs,
00:29 and government officers.
00:31 Now what is going to be BTI's next step?
00:33 See, it's like Ali Zafar said,
00:36 and I agree,
00:37 remember that,
00:39 what you said about the 50 and 51 of the election act,
00:44 it says that,
00:46 Chief Justice of the High Court.
00:49 Okay?
00:50 So both are in reference to the Chief Justice of the High Court.
00:54 Number two,
00:55 if I have put a wrong petition,
00:57 I should have gone to the Supreme Court,
00:59 but I went to this road,
01:01 the minister sitting in front of me can say,
01:03 "Brother, you don't have it here,
01:05 you go there."
01:06 So the judge of the High Court,
01:08 he is a judge,
01:09 he could have said,
01:11 "Your petition should not be here,
01:13 your petition number two."
01:14 The petition that we put,
01:16 when the Election Commission announced this decision,
01:21 and when they notified,
01:24 that we have issued this petition after a day or two,
01:27 it is not that we have waited for a long time.
01:30 The High Court heard it after a week,
01:33 it's turn came after a week.
01:36 And as it was discussed,
01:37 they could have simply said,
01:39 "This is not the reason."
01:40 We did not do it to delay,
01:43 we did it to make this decision from the election time,
01:47 but instead of this,
01:49 they did this,
01:50 that's all.
01:51 And I have told you the basic reason for that,
01:53 that generally speaking,
01:54 the person who is my subordinate,
01:56 the person who is my subordinate,
01:58 there is a Chief Justice,
02:00 all his judges are not his subordinates,
02:03 the people who work under him are not his subordinates,
02:07 he is a junior,
02:08 he is not his subordinate.
02:09 But in this bureaucracy,
02:13 the annual report of the person below,
02:17 I have to write it,
02:19 he cannot talk to me in a higher position.
02:22 So, what I will say,
02:24 he will have to do it.
02:25 Who am I here?
02:26 Who am I here?
02:27 Are you the political parties here?
02:29 No, no, no.
02:30 Or am I someone else here?
02:31 I am the individual here,
02:33 who is sitting at the level of DRO or RO.
02:37 Because everything is happening through them,
02:40 everything is happening through them,
02:41 every person is there.
02:42 So, is it right to manipulate all the people in 2014,
02:46 during the elections?
02:47 Does it make sense?
02:48 No, look, it is like this,
02:50 it doesn't make sense if the people sitting over there
02:54 have got independent thinking.
02:56 But if they are answerable to one system,
03:01 and they are the employees of that system,
03:04 then it is very easy.
03:06 This is the system.
03:07 No, no, no.
03:08 In 2018, these people also won,
03:12 the rest of the people also won.
03:14 They had no problem in those places.
03:16 Only where PTI won, they had a problem.
03:18 Let's talk about the problem.
03:19 Mr. Daniyal, the issue is that,
03:21 one thing that the Justice of Lahore High Court,
03:24 Justice Najfi has said,
03:25 that is absolutely right,
03:26 that it is a poor country,
03:28 we have to give around 4000 Arab in interest.
03:32 And when billions of rupees of such poor nations
03:35 are being spent on such a big exercise,
03:37 on the exercise of elections,
03:38 and even if one Jamaat raises a question on it,
03:40 then the matter is wrong.
03:42 Don't you think that all the other Jamaats,
03:44 they should have decided this together,
03:46 your government has passed,
03:48 the coalition government has passed,
03:50 all these issues have to be dealt with before the elections.
03:53 Before that, no Jamaat is ready to sit.
03:55 They keep talking about electoral reforms,
03:57 but no one works on electoral reforms.
03:59 Why does this happen?
04:00 Every single time.
04:02 Anika, see, the most important thing to do in this is,
04:08 see, tell me today,
04:10 is this the first election in Pakistan's history?
04:13 And you have not brought people from the sky,
04:16 this bureaucracy was serving them a few months ago.
04:19 This bureaucracy was serving us in Musharraf's court before us.
04:24 This bureaucracy has been serving us at all times.
04:27 And they follow their decisions and things through a proper process.
04:33 In the last elections, the mix and match of both,
04:36 and through this bureaucracy and these things,
04:39 elections were held in Punjab as well.
04:41 And when I spoke to you,
04:43 these are the crying children who say,
04:45 if we don't get the toy, then no one will get it.
04:48 We will break it.
04:50 Today, when they didn't have anything,
04:52 now they are giving a new spin to this.
04:54 Since day one, their lawyer,
04:56 who was Imran Khan's spokesperson,
04:58 they were talking about delaying the elections.
05:01 They were running away from the elections.
05:03 When they were caught, when there was a commotion,
05:06 thieves, robbers, people caught them,
05:08 and now they are making excuses that they did this for this.
05:11 Hear me out. I have a very genuine question.
05:14 There is an officer who has to take care of public law and order.
05:17 He is AC, he is DC, he has to take care of public law and order.
05:21 And this is an exercise where issues of public law and order come up.
05:25 You talk to the same officer about setting up RO and DRO,
05:29 and forget about all the other issues.
05:32 So, look at public law and order, look at the elections,
05:35 how does this work?
05:37 If this was a question of one community,
05:40 then they should have taken it genuinely.
05:42 If questions are raised on our 70-75 year old elections,
05:45 does that mean that we should raise questions on the next 70-75 year old elections?
05:48 We have not changed.
05:50 Look, Anika, the situation of law and order
05:55 on day of election is not with the ACs and DCs.
05:59 It is with the police and administration,
06:02 and everyone has duties.
06:04 From the commissioner to the district officer, everyone has duties.
06:07 Similarly, your returning officer is not sitting on the election booth,
06:12 he is sitting in the cells that are created.
06:15 And the issues that we face as candidates,
06:18 whether it is from my community, People's Party,
06:21 or Tehreek-e-Insaf, they register their complaints.
06:25 Now, this is a good thing,
06:27 that if there is a judiciary,
06:30 then they have to liaison with someone.
06:32 These are direct liaison officers,
06:35 who can immediately execute the issues.
06:39 So, I think that process will be easier and better performed.