Kompany on the qualities of Burnley legend Sean Dyche
Kompany on the qualities of Burnley legend Sean Dyche
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00:00 Vincent, when you came in and you were following somebody you referred very kindly to,
00:06 what was your thinking about how you would alter things?
00:10 Because there were lots of good habits you've talked about,
00:13 lots of good reference points, but you were you.
00:16 It was a new era.
00:17 You were going to be playing in the Championship anyway.
00:19 So what would Sean find different apart from the football personnel?
00:26 Because you've radically changed the squad.
00:29 What's changed about the ethos of the club since you took over?
00:33 There's two things.
00:36 You come first as a coach and you have something you're able to transfer to players.
00:43 It's important you transfer something to the players that you understand completely.
00:47 So there's the coaching content.
00:50 But then the second thing is also values.
00:53 When I keep mentioning hard work, effort,
00:59 you could imagine someone else mentioning those same words, right?
01:03 In my career, I was an aggressive player and I loved the aggression in the side as well.
01:11 You could imagine another person saying those same words.
01:14 So I'm saying there is a kind of a picture that can get painted
01:20 that has absolutely nothing to do with who I am as a person.
01:23 There's things that I'm absolutely aligned with.
01:26 And there's other things where otherwise we'd all be the same, right?
01:28 There's other things where I'm different.
01:30 But it's not been difficult for me to, in fact,
01:34 carry on something that was already really, really present in this club.
01:37 And I put it always very highly within our culture, you know, very, very highly.
01:46 Just to add to that, where does Sean stand in your perception of top managers?
01:53 I mean, I've been thinking the way things are,
01:56 you could get manager of the year, you know,
01:58 if he keeps them up against 10 points and the spiritual problem
02:02 that that would have had on the players to begin with, but they've bounced back.
02:05 So where does he sit?
02:07 Because before he left Burnley, people thought he was only a one-dimension manager,
02:13 but I think he's beginning to change that now, that perception at least.
02:18 No, look, the public will say what it says, you know, but I'm not a fan.
02:26 I'm a manager, I'm a coach.
02:28 I can see the work he's doing.
02:30 I can see the quality of his work.
02:32 And the thing as well with it is I've just mentioned that we're a Premier League club
02:41 and he's the reference of this club, you know, as in like anybody that comes behind it
02:47 has to try and better that, you know, that's the goal of every club.
02:50 You know, anybody that goes after, I don't know, Pep will try and do better than Pep.
02:55 Good luck.
02:56 But anybody that comes after Arsene Wenger at Arsenal is still trying to do better than Wenger.
03:05 It takes time though.
03:06 And he is that person for a Premier League club.
03:09 I mean, you don't become that person unless you're a very, very, very good coach.
03:14 And, you know, the biggest thing as well in coaching is clarity.
03:18 And you can see that there's a tremendous amount of clarity to everything his team does.
03:23 That's the answer.
03:25 Vinny, obviously you've got a lot of new players that weren't there when Sean was here,
03:31 but there are a few that were here.
03:33 When you came in, did you find them at all resistant or unsure about what you were doing?
03:37 What's their attitude been to this new philosophy, if you like?
03:41 Please don't mention the word philosophy.
03:45 I really don't like the word philosophy in this because there is a lot of pragmatism to what we do.
03:55 A lot.
03:56 And eventually you have a set of beliefs.
04:00 I can follow that.
04:01 But you always adapt to what you're facing and the players you have.
04:05 In the end, I think I was lucky to be very well received.
04:10 I just had the buy-in of the players from day one.
04:13 They didn't just help me on the pitch, but they helped me with the dressing room as well.
04:18 And all I did for my side is try and coach them, try and give them as much information as I could,
04:25 whether they were playing or not, because some of them weren't even playing
04:27 and they were Premier League players the year before.
04:29 And they've been very, very open with me.
04:34 Some of the things as well that I put forward in these moments is I think I've tried to always be as direct with them as well and honest.
04:41 As in, I could be wrong, but what I'm saying is what I'm thinking right now.
04:46 And they received that quite well and it's allowed us to have a very good relationship from the get-go almost.
04:52 I'm happy not to use the word philosophy.
04:56 Is there an alternative I'm trying to think of?
05:00 Honestly, that word will irritate me as well at some point.
05:04 You know what I mean.
05:07 I know, I know, I know.
05:08 But you use the word philosophy and before you know it, there's a cord underneath that will say 'dreamer' or 'not realistic'.
05:15 And no way.
05:17 But in the end, you have to coach what you know.
05:22 It's so important.
05:23 And if I wasn't doing that, you'd be the first to say, 'Well, why is he in the job then?'
05:30 And I feel that every time I get on the pitch, every time I'm with those players, I feel there's something that these guys are offering that is also making them stand out.
05:45 That is also making them more dangerous because of it.
05:48 More able to score goals.
05:49 More able to cause problems.
05:52 That's the goal ultimately.
05:53 Hi, are you OK?
05:58 You've mentioned a few times Sean as a reference point.
06:01 I've heard him speak about seeking advice and giving advice to managers.
06:06 Did you have any dealings with him when you took over the club?
06:08 Because he was here a long time.
06:10 And have you had any dealings with him since you took over?
06:13 No, I've met him a few times.
06:18 But funnily enough, I haven't done that in this case.
06:23 But obviously, I didn't need to go too far to...
06:27 I mean, there's lots of people at the club that worked with him, right?
06:31 So, I didn't need to go too far to understand what it was that made the club so special for a long time.
06:41 And then, like I said, in the end, we were in the Championship.
06:46 And we knew as well that we had an opportunity to write our own story as well.
06:55 That was also exciting for us.
06:57 Obviously, it gets framed that there was a huge shift in style of play.
07:02 Let's not say philosophy, but style of play.
07:05 I don't like the style either.
07:06 We will find one.
07:09 Do you think that sometimes that can be...
07:13 It's obviously meant as praise for yourself, but that can also be perceived as potentially disrespectful to whoever came in.
07:19 Because I know Sean has a big thing about that he gets pigeonholed and he gets put into this type of manager.
07:24 Do you feel that as well?
07:26 Well, at the moment, I'm trying to un-pigeonhole myself as well, as you can see.
07:30 But you're an incredible force.
07:33 No matter what I say, it's not going to happen, is it?
07:35 Look, guys.
07:37 But I said it last year.
07:40 Forget about this game for now in terms of...
07:46 I've started last season.
07:48 I was already doing it when you guys were there.
07:50 I've told you already last season about our pressing, about our duels, how aggressive the team was.
07:56 You've never seen me...
07:58 If a player falls on the floor, it's me who's dragging him up and saying,
08:04 "Get on the pitch because you're embarrassing us."
08:06 That's my mentality.
08:09 So, look, pigeonhole me all you want.
08:11 But I know that if there's a big tackle flying in, I'll be the first one to be up my seat and I'll be in celebration.
08:17 It's a side of the game that I appreciate so much.
08:21 But, yeah, there needs to be some difference somewhere.
08:26 For me, I've got an idea of how you come to create a chance and a goal.
08:33 This is how we've created our chances.
08:36 This is how we've scored our goals as well.
08:38 And that's what it is.
08:39 For me, the disrespectful thing is...
08:42 I know you didn't phrase it in that way, but the disrespectful thing would always be at any club, any level,
08:48 if you don't put in the work.
08:49 Then you have a problem.
08:52 A player who doesn't put in the work, a club where players are not interested, staff are not interested.
08:58 That couldn't happen on my watch.
09:02 No chance.
09:03 No chance.
09:04 Just on that, in terms of that side of the game,
09:12 just how pleased have you been with your side's progress on the defensive side of play,
09:16 in terms of getting to grips with the Premier League a little bit more?
09:19 Very, very.
09:21 Thanks for mentioning it.
09:24 But the big thing for me as well is we always have to put it into the context of...
09:32 You come up against Brighton and over the second half you've got Mitoma who comes on
09:36 and he's dragging three of our players back to the corner flag nearly.
09:40 That's the level of players we face sometimes.
09:42 And like I say, you can't overestimate how much sometimes we're not in control of the flow of the game.
09:52 And then you have to do what the game demands.
09:55 And I think in those moments, the team is hopefully able to continue on that.
09:59 Because I've said it, eventually it doesn't matter because I could say they've deserved more.
10:04 But in the end, you've got to go and just get it then.
10:06 And I hope they can continue.
10:08 And if the Everton game is one of those games, if the Fulham game is one of those games,
10:13 if Liverpool... But every game should be an opportunity for us to continue our progress.
10:17 That's how we have to look at it and get our points.
10:19 Lastly, in reference to Wilson at the weekend, you talked about the way behind the scenes
10:25 that goes into developing these players and these players learning.
10:28 I was just wondering what does go into that and how much work goes into it?
10:32 Because it's not just about on the training pitch.
10:34 There's loads of other things that come into it and what your players are doing behind the scenes.
10:38 Yeah. So, again, it's not something we started now, but it's a side of the game I personally love.
10:47 I love winning as much as every manager.
10:51 I'm passionate about winning, but I'm also passionate about improving players, developing players.
10:57 It doesn't matter the age. It's not because they're young.
10:59 It's a real passion. If a player gets better, I'm likely to find some happiness no matter what.
11:05 And these players need just a lot of time, a lot of attention.
11:10 So whether it's individual meetings, unit meetings, collective meetings, individual sessions,
11:15 unit sessions, collective sessions, arm-round.
11:20 It's sometimes a bit of a reminder.
11:25 All these different ways of approaching and triggering a player's improvement.
11:31 So we try and hit it from every angle.
11:34 And what I like about it as well is you get the...
11:38 I can't go and all of a sudden miraculously change the nature of the squad in a transfer window.
11:44 But what I can do is support the player's improvement and therefore become a better team.
11:49 team and that's exciting.