In an exclusive interview with Lehren Retro, legendary actor Govind Namdev drops a bombshell, unraveling the shocking tale of Subhash Ghai's 'blacklisting' after 'Saudagar.' Peer into the riveting narrative that exposes the industry's underbelly and the aftermath of a Bollywood fallout.
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00:00:00 I never had a goal of becoming a hero.
00:00:02 I never had a Godfather in Bombay
00:00:04 who would help me,
00:00:06 or would ask me to do something.
00:00:08 There are many people
00:00:10 who I have blacklisted.
00:00:12 I don't want to meet them.
00:00:14 They have a big life.
00:00:15 There are many people other than them.
00:00:17 In the name of religion,
00:00:18 in the name of God,
00:00:19 people are blackmailed.
00:00:21 They are called with their religious feelings.
00:00:26 Seeing all this, I started hating them.
00:00:28 Since then, I have stopped giving money.
00:00:31 After Sholayam Shabnam,
00:00:32 I didn't have any work for two years.
00:00:34 Because that film became a hit.
00:00:36 The rumour about me spread that
00:00:38 I am a very arrogant actor.
00:00:40 A very arrogant actor has come
00:00:41 who has played a role in it.
00:00:43 So, people were calling me,
00:00:44 but then people stopped calling me.
00:00:46 Hello, I am Rehan Hussain
00:00:51 and you are watching Lehren.
00:00:53 Right now, we have with us
00:00:56 the famous actor, Govind Namdev.
00:00:59 He has given many great films
00:01:01 to Hindi cinema with his great acting.
00:01:04 He is also a well-known theatre artist
00:01:06 in the country.
00:01:08 He has made his mark not only in the country
00:01:10 but also in the foreign countries
00:01:11 through his plays.
00:01:12 Govind, first of all, welcome.
00:01:14 Thank you very much.
00:01:16 You started your career
00:01:18 from your childhood.
00:01:20 It is said that when you were in 6th class,
00:01:23 you read the biography of many great men
00:01:25 including Mahatma Gandhi.
00:01:27 You got an energy there that
00:01:29 if everyone in Delhi becomes great men,
00:01:33 then we will also do something like that.
00:01:34 So, this spark in you,
00:01:36 how did it happen?
00:01:38 Oh wow!
00:01:39 You have read a lot about me.
00:01:42 Yes, a little.
00:01:43 My childhood was very romantic.
00:01:45 Yes.
00:01:46 Very romantic.
00:01:47 I can say that
00:01:48 my childhood itself set
00:01:52 how my future life will be.
00:01:54 Yes.
00:01:54 I mean, I am still amazed
00:01:56 that how I could think so much
00:01:58 in my childhood
00:01:59 that I don't want to work like my elder brother.
00:02:04 I, at that time, getting a job
00:02:08 that too a government job
00:02:10 was a big thing.
00:02:11 Absolutely.
00:02:12 So, but I used to feel that
00:02:15 this was also a life that
00:02:18 I studied and then got married.
00:02:22 I got a job, had children
00:02:26 and my life ended while raising children.
00:02:29 Yes.
00:02:29 What does it mean?
00:02:31 At that time, I realized that
00:02:35 this is not a life.
00:02:36 So, I used to feel that
00:02:40 I don't want to live such a life.
00:02:42 I want to do something
00:02:45 that people praise me,
00:02:47 praise my family,
00:02:50 my family's name,
00:02:51 the name of our neighborhood,
00:02:53 the name of our city.
00:02:54 I got this culture
00:02:56 directly or indirectly from my father.
00:03:01 Yes.
00:03:02 My father was a very famous wrestler.
00:03:06 Yes.
00:03:08 So, there, every three months,
00:03:12 four months, six months,
00:03:13 there used to be wrestling in our Sagar.
00:03:15 Yes.
00:03:16 So, he was very famous
00:03:18 and every time it used to happen that
00:03:22 he used to win the wrestling.
00:03:25 He was very famous.
00:03:26 And when he used to win the wrestling,
00:03:28 then the value of wrestling,
00:03:32 from there to home,
00:03:35 about three kilometers,
00:03:36 people used to come with
00:03:38 a drum and cymbals
00:03:41 and come with a big cheer.
00:03:42 So, you got inspiration from there
00:03:43 that I have to come first in every place,
00:03:45 in every area.
00:03:45 Seeing that, I used to think,
00:03:48 wow, what a thing!
00:03:51 I should do something like this.
00:03:52 Do something like this.
00:03:53 It is such a big thing.
00:03:54 A crowd of people is coming,
00:03:55 sitting on shoulders
00:03:57 and going.
00:03:58 Yes.
00:04:00 I got that inspiration from him
00:04:04 and for this,
00:04:06 he used to practice for two hours every day,
00:04:09 used to go to the arena.
00:04:11 Two hours on the drum.
00:04:13 So, you didn't have that desire
00:04:14 to become a wrestler like your father?
00:04:17 I used to go.
00:04:18 You used to go?
00:04:18 I saw all this.
00:04:20 They used to take me along.
00:04:21 I also, in the arena,
00:04:22 although I didn't have as many children,
00:04:29 we had fewer children in the arena.
00:04:32 So, I also learned on the drum.
00:04:34 I also, the soil there,
00:04:37 it is called 'gordna',
00:04:38 the arena, gordna.
00:04:39 So, I have done all that.
00:04:42 And, like him, I have put a stamp on the drum.
00:04:47 I have put a stamp on 500 drums.
00:04:50 Now, we can imagine,
00:04:52 500 drums and 500 mats.
00:04:54 So, I had reached there.
00:04:56 So, the idea is that
00:04:58 I took the effort from my father
00:05:01 to keep myself in the limelight
00:05:05 and the passion to work hard.
00:05:08 Yes.
00:05:09 And from there, this culture was born in me
00:05:13 that I have to do something different.
00:05:15 I have to become something better.
00:05:17 I have to become something that people see.
00:05:19 They say, "Yes, wow, what a thing!"
00:05:22 So, from there, it was set
00:05:26 that I have to do something big in life.
00:05:29 During this time, in school,
00:05:32 in our fifth class,
00:05:34 Gandhi ji's book, 'Satya Ke Priyog Kitab',
00:05:41 'Aatmakatha',
00:05:43 we were taught some incidents from that.
00:05:45 In that, there was an incident that
00:05:49 he did not have money,
00:05:50 the financial situation of his family was not so good
00:05:54 that he could study in England.
00:05:57 And he had a great desire that
00:05:59 I have to go to England and study as a barrister.
00:06:03 He was very smart in his studies,
00:06:06 but he did not have money.
00:06:08 So, he used to be very worried.
00:06:11 He used to tell his father,
00:06:13 but he used to tell him his incompetence.
00:06:15 Later, when his father felt that
00:06:17 he had a very strong desire to go there,
00:06:21 he talked to people and made money
00:06:25 by talking to people.
00:06:26 And finally, he took him to England.
00:06:30 He started studying there.
00:06:32 He started studying, but his studies were not completed.
00:06:34 And now his money was over.
00:06:36 And the situation was not getting better
00:06:38 that money could come from there, from India.
00:06:41 So, he did a job there.
00:06:46 He did a job and while doing a job,
00:06:49 he completed his studies.
00:06:52 So, this thing struck in my mind suddenly
00:06:58 and it sat.
00:06:59 He said, "Gandhi ji, if you can go to London
00:07:02 and complete your studies by doing a job,
00:07:08 then I can do the same.
00:07:10 I can work harder than Gandhi ji."
00:07:14 Because he was full of hard work.
00:07:18 This thought came to my mind.
00:07:22 This thought sat in my mind.
00:07:24 And after that, what happened was that
00:07:26 one day, in my elder brother's cupboard,
00:07:30 which he had made a library,
00:07:34 there I saw the complete book of Gandhi ji's Satyapriyog.
00:07:38 - Oh, I heard it and then I felt like sleeping.
00:07:40 - I said, "Oh, what is this?
00:07:42 This is the same book."
00:07:44 So, I took it out.
00:07:46 And I started reading it.
00:07:48 And I can say that
00:07:50 I did not leave it without reading it completely.
00:07:54 I forgot about eating and drinking.
00:07:58 I felt, "What kind of personality is this?
00:08:02 What kind of personality is this?
00:08:04 There is no competition at all."
00:08:06 Because of which, people all over the world accepted him.
00:08:10 I want to become something like this.
00:08:14 After that, I got used to
00:08:18 the great people of our India.
00:08:22 - To read their biography.
00:08:24 - To read their biography.
00:08:26 And I started living in their world.
00:08:28 I felt that I want to become something like this.
00:08:32 I don't want to do any job of any kind.
00:08:34 And the conclusion came that
00:08:36 these people who have grown up,
00:08:38 they have not become like this.
00:08:40 They have trained in big institutions,
00:08:44 studied, and that too in big cities.
00:08:48 Someone in Kolkata, I have read Jeevani,
00:08:52 Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose's Jeevani,
00:08:56 Lal Bahadur Shastri's Jeevani.
00:08:58 Everyone has studied.
00:09:00 So, I thought that I will have to study,
00:09:02 no matter what.
00:09:04 And if I get a chance to study abroad,
00:09:08 then I will work and study like Gandhiji.
00:09:12 Anyway, this is how I got the idea.
00:09:16 This is how I got the idea.
00:09:18 God helped me and he took me to Delhi.
00:09:22 In this way.
00:09:24 - Okay.
00:09:26 - I had in mind that if I get a chance
00:09:28 to study in Delhi, the capital of India,
00:09:30 then it will be a great achievement for me.
00:09:34 I mean, it will be a great achievement in itself
00:09:38 that Ram Prasad Pehelwan's son is studying in Delhi.
00:09:42 It will be a great achievement in itself.
00:09:44 So, I was trying to do something like this.
00:09:48 And it happened.
00:09:50 One of my friends, his uncle used to live in Delhi.
00:09:54 And he had received a card from his house.
00:09:56 So, he told me.
00:09:58 So, I asked him,
00:10:00 is the address written in it?
00:10:02 He said, yes, the address is written.
00:10:04 So, I said, bring it.
00:10:06 So, he brought it.
00:10:12 I wrote the address quickly.
00:10:14 And now I am in the process of
00:10:16 how to go to Delhi.
00:10:18 - So, sir, you completed the rest of your studies in Delhi.
00:10:20 - Yes.
00:10:22 - And how did you move towards NSD after that?
00:10:24 Share that story.
00:10:26 - I did schooling in Delhi.
00:10:28 I studied there from the eighth grade.
00:10:32 I studied in Sagar till the seventh grade.
00:10:36 I studied in Delhi from the eighth grade
00:10:38 till graduation.
00:10:40 I did graduation privately after the eleventh grade.
00:10:44 - Was it after the eleventh grade?
00:10:46 - It was after the eleventh grade.
00:10:48 I used to do higher secondary.
00:10:50 Earlier, it was not intermediate.
00:10:52 The intermediate is after the twelfth grade.
00:10:54 - Yes, after the twelfth grade.
00:10:56 - In our time, it was in the seventies.
00:10:58 It was between the seventies to the eighties.
00:11:02 So, at that time, I used to do higher secondary.
00:11:06 So, after higher secondary,
00:11:08 I used to do graduation after three years.
00:11:10 So, after higher secondary,
00:11:14 I faced some problems.
00:11:16 I could either work or go to college.
00:11:20 - Yes, that's right.
00:11:22 - Going to college was a full day.
00:11:26 I was not able to arrange for it.
00:11:28 I was not able to arrange for it.
00:11:30 I was not able to arrange for it.
00:11:32 - Yes, you were not able to study.
00:11:34 - Yes, I was not able to study.
00:11:36 At that time, I was looking for a job.
00:11:40 I was looking for a part-time job.
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00:23:16 My liking started to increase.
00:23:18 I came back to NSD.
00:23:20 I did a three-year course.
00:23:22 After doing the course for three years,
00:23:24 when I felt that I needed more perfection,
00:23:26 when I felt that I needed more perfection,
00:23:28 there is a professional wing of National Script Drama.
00:23:30 there is a professional wing of National Script Drama.
00:23:32 It is called Rang Mandal.
00:23:34 It is called Rang Mandal.
00:23:36 All the trained actors, technicians, directors of NSD,
00:23:38 All the trained actors, technicians, directors of NSD,
00:23:40 all of them belong to the same group.
00:23:42 all of them belong to the same group.
00:23:44 The government gives them a salary.
00:23:46 The government gives them a salary.
00:23:48 Their job is to prepare the play
00:23:50 and to promote the theatre.
00:23:52 and to promote the theatre.
00:23:54 So, after completing the course,
00:23:56 you did not leave the theatre?
00:23:58 No.
00:24:00 I thought I needed more maturity.
00:24:02 I thought I needed more maturity.
00:24:04 The group was very good.
00:24:06 The group was very good.
00:24:08 All the actors were professional actors.
00:24:10 All the actors were trained actors.
00:24:12 All the actors were trained actors.
00:24:14 All the students of NSD had been selected.
00:24:16 All the students of NSD had been selected.
00:24:18 All the students of NSD had been selected.
00:24:20 They were doing an amazing job.
00:24:22 We were impressed by their work.
00:24:24 We were impressed by their work.
00:24:26 We were impressed by their work.
00:24:28 And we thought, if we want to act,
00:24:30 we should act in this way.
00:24:32 We thought, if we want to act,
00:24:34 we should act in this way.
00:24:36 We thought, if we want to act,
00:24:38 we should act in this way.
00:24:40 I wanted to work in this group for 10 years.
00:24:42 I wanted to work in this group for 10 years.
00:24:44 Because the people who were working,
00:24:46 had completed 6 years after completing
00:24:48 3 years of course.
00:24:50 Some had completed 7 years.
00:24:52 Some had completed 5 years.
00:24:54 So, I thought,
00:24:56 I will have to work for this much
00:24:58 to reach this level.
00:25:00 It has been 3 years.
00:25:02 If I work for 6 more years,
00:25:04 I will need 10-11 years.
00:25:06 I did not have the aim of becoming a hero.
00:25:08 I did not have the aim of becoming a hero.
00:25:10 My aim was to become a fine actor.
00:25:12 My aim was to become a fine actor.
00:25:14 An artist.
00:25:16 Why was it so?
00:25:18 People go to become a hero after completing a course.
00:25:20 Why did you have this thought?
00:25:22 Why did you have this thought?
00:25:24 That you want to become an actor,
00:25:26 an artist.
00:25:28 The way we used to see,
00:25:30 I used to think that
00:25:32 hero and heroine do not have a long life.
00:25:34 I used to think that hero and heroine do not have a long life.
00:25:36 The character artists have a long life.
00:25:38 They have a long life.
00:25:40 Shriyabh Lagu,
00:25:42 those type of character artists,
00:25:44 those type of character artists,
00:25:46 I used to see those type of actors.
00:25:48 I used to see those type of actors.
00:25:50 I used to think that this is the character.
00:25:52 You perform well
00:25:54 and you keep doing lifelong work
00:25:56 on the bulk of your talent.
00:25:58 on the bulk of your talent.
00:26:00 So, I decided that
00:26:02 if I take a few extra years,
00:26:04 there is no problem.
00:26:06 I will become a good actor.
00:26:08 I will become a good actor.
00:26:10 I had a pressure that
00:26:12 I did not have a godfather in Bombay.
00:26:14 I did not have a godfather in Bombay.
00:26:16 I did not have a godfather in Bombay.
00:26:18 He used to help me.
00:26:20 He used to help me.
00:26:22 I will get work only
00:26:24 on the basis of my work.
00:26:26 I will get work only on the basis of my work.
00:26:28 I should have that efficiency in my work.
00:26:30 I should have that fineness in my work.
00:26:32 People will say that
00:26:34 this is a good job.
00:26:36 People will say that this is a good job.
00:26:38 I stayed there
00:26:40 to develop that.
00:26:42 After working for 10-12 years,
00:26:44 After working for 10-12 years,
00:26:46 when you decided to go to Bombay
00:26:48 when you decided to go to Bombay
00:26:50 and try for films,
00:26:52 did you decide it yourself
00:26:54 or did you get matured?
00:26:56 I decided it myself.
00:26:58 I was not afraid of taking risks.
00:27:00 I was not afraid of taking risks.
00:27:02 In 1989, I felt
00:27:04 that I can give my 100%
00:27:06 in front of the biggest actor.
00:27:08 that I can give my 100% in front of the biggest actor.
00:27:10 that I can give my 100% in front of the biggest actor.
00:27:12 that I can give my 100% in front of the biggest actor.
00:27:14 I can perform better than him.
00:27:16 I can perform better than him.
00:27:18 I thought
00:27:20 that this is the right opportunity.
00:27:22 that this is the right opportunity.
00:27:24 I decided to leave Bombay.
00:27:26 I decided to leave Bombay.
00:27:28 So the people who used to live here, they thought that these people are here, there is no problem.
00:27:38 So your classmates who had left the place, like Anupam Kher ji or Satish Kaushik ji, when you came to Mumbai, did you get any help from them? Because they had come before.
00:27:47 I got a lot of support, a lot of support. I mean, I can never forget their support.
00:27:52 One thing is that a person is alone. If someone calls you every day and entertains you,
00:28:00 I mean, don't let them feel that you are alone. So it is enough to get people to meet. What else do you need here?
00:28:09 So they have done a lot. So after that, you have to make a place yourself. It is done by your work.
00:28:19 If you have the strength in your work, then your work will increase and you will get it. So this is how it happened.
00:28:25 The first film, because it was my theater experience, 11 years. So in the third month of coming, I got good money in Sardar Patel.
00:28:38 So I called my family.
00:28:40 By then you were married.
00:28:41 I was married. I had two daughters. But I was not afraid to take risks. And for that, I had mentally prepared my wife.
00:28:53 That if you have to do something for the children, you have to take some risk. And she was convinced.
00:29:00 So in this way, in 1989, I came in 1990. I got the first film Sardar Patel. During that time, I got Shola and Shabnam.
00:29:10 Shola and Shabnam were released earlier?
00:29:12 Shola and Shabnam were released earlier. It took about 4 years for Sardar Patel to be made and released.
00:29:19 That is why Shola and Shabnam were released.
00:29:22 Sir, you are doing the role of Sardar Patel in the film Saim Bahadur directed by Meghna Gulzar.
00:29:27 Before this, you played the role of his close friend in the first film. You must have observed that role.
00:29:33 Yes.
00:29:34 So how many challenges did you have to face in this role? Tell us about it.
00:29:39 One big challenge was that it is a small part. The role is small. All the roles are small except for Manikshaw.
00:29:52 So in that small part, you have to depict the spirit and emotions of Sardar Patel and his character.
00:30:10 I listened to his speeches and I saw his walk in the documentaries. I worked on it and practiced it.
00:30:25 After talking to Meghna, I understood that I wanted to show the spirit. I wanted to show that he is not an ordinary character.
00:30:42 He is a man of law. He is a man of law. His activities are powerful and his speech is powerful.
00:30:49 So I took care of these two things and I portrayed him accordingly.
00:30:55 I am satisfied. I was very confused as to why I should do a small role.
00:31:05 I have not done any small roles yet. I have been avoiding doing small roles.
00:31:10 But this greed of Sardar Patel, Sardar Patel means a lot.
00:31:17 Did you see any changes in your first film? What was happening on sets?
00:31:24 Technical changes or direction changes? And now the changes in cinema?
00:31:30 It is very different. Today, it is advanced technology. Your equipment is so advanced.
00:31:38 You have to use small things. It was not like that in the past. It was like, you have to keep on performing.
00:31:47 You have to take the best out of it. If there is any problem, you immediately shoot that part again.
00:31:56 And your voice is being captured very finely. Your expression is being captured. You are saying a small thing.
00:32:06 How convincing it is. How much spirit you have spoken with, I can understand. I can understand to the degree.
00:32:13 So in this regard, we had to be more careful and prepare ourselves more to come in front of the camera.
00:32:22 And about Meghna Gulzar, she is a very strict director. You have to be on toes.
00:32:34 You cannot do anything casually. Your dialogues, whatever you have put in your characterization,
00:32:44 whatever you want, it should be there. A sentence has been said like this, it should be said like this.
00:32:52 So we followed those things properly and kept in mind. And today she is happy and I am happy too.
00:33:04 Let's talk about Sholam and Samram. You played the role of a policeman in it.
00:33:08 You had that film with Govinda. How was that experience?
00:33:14 Your first commercial film was that and it proved to be a very big blockbuster film.
00:33:19 And maybe that was the turning point that after success you signed many films.
00:33:25 I had gone from here with a smile. It took us 11 more years to convince ourselves.
00:33:31 So I had brought that confidence level to Bombay. And everything, from the perspective of acting,
00:33:45 how to apply the understanding of acting in a better way, we learned that.
00:33:53 We knew that there is only one sentence in it. You have to create your impact in one sentence.
00:34:02 So what can be done in it. We had learned all these things from there.
00:34:06 So when we got a sentence to speak, we added a few things to it.
00:34:13 We added a few things and people liked it. It was a small scene. It was the opening scene.
00:34:26 If you remember that dialogue.
00:34:29 Yes, I remember that dialogue. It was a small line.
00:34:34 It was the opening scene and then the shooting started. I am a policeman. Mahavishah, who was with us,
00:34:44 he was taking Govinda in his car. And Govinda was completely dazed. He was making noise.
00:34:52 So my dialogue is that it is hot in Laude. So I said, what should I do?
00:35:06 So I put a stick in my hand. We have to make such arrangements in advance
00:35:14 that you can use his property. So as soon as he showed his warmth,
00:35:24 I did this in a stick and put it on his ear. That it is hot in Laude.
00:35:34 So, because I was a new actor, if someone else, an established actor, would have done it,
00:35:44 it would not have been so much registered. When I did this, people liked it a lot.
00:35:51 And we did such things in the future as well, in speaking. We took out a style of speaking.
00:35:59 And the scenes that we got, like the scene of running away in the end,
00:36:07 how did I run? Like someone saves his life and runs. He knows that his life will be lost.
00:36:14 So how the scoundrel runs to save his life, I ran like that.
00:36:19 So people registered running. How fast you ran. It seemed that you were running to save your life.
00:36:27 And in the same way, I tried to put something or the other in the scenes in between.
00:36:34 How did you find Govinda on your set? It is often said about him that he comes late on set
00:36:40 or the director is worried about him. So how was the experience with him during the shooting of Sola Aur Samnam?
00:36:46 During that time, he was very disciplined. Maybe he had a good rapport with Pailaj Nilani.
00:36:55 And mostly we have shot outdoors. So I think he doesn't have as many problems outdoors
00:37:01 as he has when he goes from home. He has problems.
00:37:05 Rest, he had a very good rapport with us. We treated each other very well on a very friendly level.
00:37:13 Although he was an established actor, we didn't think that he would speak on such a friendly level.
00:37:23 So he had a good rapport.
00:37:26 Another Purush Krit film of yours was released in the same period, Bandit Queen,
00:37:30 which was directed by Shekhar Kapoor. That film was very much appreciated.
00:37:35 International? Yes. How did you get that film?
00:37:40 This was the film that made Shekhar Kapoor an international director.
00:37:46 Because of this, he got a chance to direct Elizabeth in London, England.
00:37:53 Elizabeth! Yes.
00:37:55 It is such a great honour for an Indian to get a chance to direct such a big film.
00:38:01 So I came to Bombay. Since I had worked in Delhi, people had seen my work in the theatre.
00:38:11 So they wanted me to cast people from the Delhi theatre.
00:38:17 So I was getting casted and someone told me my name.
00:38:22 Although I was not in Delhi. So they said, "Okay, call them."
00:38:27 So I got a call from Tissue. I forgot the name. At that time, he was an assistant.
00:38:33 So he told me that he wanted to meet Shekhar Kapoor.
00:38:37 He was casting here. I said, "Okay."
00:38:42 I had a lot of information. You have to be alert even for small things.
00:38:48 You have to be alert that you get a news from somewhere.
00:38:51 So when I got the call, I said, "Okay."
00:38:55 Now the problem was how to reach immediately.
00:39:00 And if I have to reach, then I have to go.
00:39:04 So I asked him, "Is it urgent? If it's not urgent, is he coming to Bombay?"
00:39:10 I asked him. He said, "You will have to ask."
00:39:15 I said, "Just ask for information. Don't tell him that I want to meet him."
00:39:20 "If he says, I will reach tomorrow."
00:39:23 "If he says, he can meet me after two days. I will meet him here."
00:39:28 He said, "Okay, I will ask."
00:39:31 He asked. So he said, the message came immediately after half an hour.
00:39:36 He is coming there after two days. He was doing a serial.
00:39:41 He was doing a shooting, means acting.
00:39:45 So he said, "I am reaching after two days. You come to Kamalistan."
00:39:49 And the time has also come, during lunch. You come and meet there.
00:39:53 So this news came out of excitement.
00:39:59 I waited for two days and finally, at exactly 1 o'clock, I reached Kamalistan.
00:40:08 So when I met him, he said, "Sit in the make-up room. I will come."
00:40:16 I came during lunch and met him.
00:40:20 I would like to mention one thing.
00:40:25 The work I did in the theatre in Delhi, I had made a pictorial record of it.
00:40:33 Album. I knew that people in Bombay don't know me.
00:40:38 Only those people know me who have seen my theatre.
00:40:42 Or they might have heard it. But I wanted to convince the people in front of me to show it.
00:40:48 So I made a good album with all the preparations.
00:40:55 It was about 3.5 to 4 kgs.
00:41:00 And all the close-ups were done so that the actor could understand the range of the act.
00:41:08 So I made that.
00:41:11 So wherever I went, I would take appointments and tell them that I have done it.
00:41:18 And the result of this was that when I came to Bombay, I started getting work after three months.
00:41:25 I didn't have that kind of struggle to ask for work.
00:41:29 I had a different kind of struggle.
00:41:32 So the 10-11 years you gave to the NSD in Delhi, it helped here.
00:41:36 It helped a lot. It helped me as an actor.
00:41:43 And the experience I had there, it helped me to get work.
00:41:49 So I took it to Kamal Haasan.
00:41:54 When I met Shekhar Kapoor, I told him that I have done this, I have done this theatre.
00:42:03 I have done this work with Satyadev Dubey.
00:42:06 I have done this with him, I have done this with him.
00:42:09 He was a little surprised to see it.
00:42:12 Kamal did a very good job.
00:42:15 After doing it, he said, "Okay, will you be the actor of our film?"
00:42:21 He asked like this.
00:42:23 I said, "What are you talking about, sir?"
00:42:26 "Yes, brother."
00:42:29 He said, "Sir, we are yearning for it."
00:42:33 I stood up in front of him.
00:42:36 Totally surprised.
00:42:38 As you say.
00:42:40 That's how I felt.
00:42:42 Okay, the film's shooting, like the story is in Behado,
00:42:45 Queen of Behado, Phoolan Devi.
00:42:47 So did you have a shoot at such a place?
00:42:49 Did something happen that you remember,
00:42:51 that you had to face some problems or had to face some difficulties?
00:42:54 Or were you afraid of something?
00:42:57 I wasn't afraid.
00:42:59 Maybe I wasn't afraid because I am from Bundelkhand.
00:43:02 I am from Bundelkhand.
00:43:05 One evening, I was very tensed.
00:43:10 Okay.
00:43:11 For some reason, the villagers got against it.
00:43:14 The shooting?
00:43:15 Yes, they got angry.
00:43:17 And I was tensed.
00:43:19 I felt that something was going to happen.
00:43:22 And Shekhar Kapoor also got angry.
00:43:25 Because he was behaving in a way,
00:43:28 he was misbehaving.
00:43:30 Then it was decided that we will leave from here.
00:43:33 Then we left from there.
00:43:36 After leaving, we did some other arrangements through the police,
00:43:40 so that we don't continue this further.
00:43:44 But that day it felt that we might not be able to shoot there.
00:43:48 So we didn't do it there, but in other villages also,
00:43:52 we felt that we might not face such problems there.
00:43:56 But we didn't face such problems.
00:43:58 In Bandit Kund, Manoj Bajpayee was also there in an important role.
00:44:02 Later, he became a great artist.
00:44:04 So, working with such artists,
00:44:07 their presence in today's world,
00:44:10 how does it feel?
00:44:11 Are you happy to see that you have worked with them?
00:44:14 Now, they are a well-known face of the industry.
00:44:17 We are happy. Why not?
00:44:19 All of us have done theatre.
00:44:23 In Delhi, we have all been in contact with each other.
00:44:28 So, it feels good when someone moves forward.
00:44:31 We are not behind.
00:44:33 With Dilip sir?
00:44:35 So, it is also a good thing to move forward.
00:44:38 And when you see your people moving forward, it feels good.
00:44:43 You did the film Saudagar with Dilip sir and Raj Kumar sir.
00:44:47 Yes.
00:44:48 How was that experience?
00:44:50 Oh, God! You have done a lot of research.
00:44:53 Because I don't tell this to anyone.
00:44:56 I haven't talked much about it.
00:45:00 It was a traumatic time for me.
00:45:07 Why?
00:45:09 Because I was given a role and it was a big role.
00:45:12 And then I was removed from that role.
00:45:16 In the final edit?
00:45:17 Yes.
00:45:18 And by then I had told the world that I was working with Dilip sir.
00:45:23 I consider him my guru.
00:45:25 I am working with Raj Kumar sir.
00:45:27 I am working with Subhash Ghai.
00:45:29 They were all big names.
00:45:31 I had told everyone.
00:45:33 And the shooting was done.
00:45:35 I was telling you because the shooting was going on.
00:45:38 And then when it was time for dubbing, people were dubbing.
00:45:44 I couldn't get the call.
00:45:46 I had said good dialogues.
00:45:49 There was a lot.
00:45:51 I had done good long scenes.
00:45:54 I can tell you that the importance of this character can be given by this.
00:45:59 The beginning of the film was with this character.
00:46:04 And the end of the film was with this character.
00:46:07 Did you tell any reason behind this?
00:46:11 It happened that this was a terrorist character.
00:46:15 Who teaches terrorism to children.
00:46:21 Whatever you want to achieve, you have to achieve it with the power of a gun.
00:46:27 He is teaching them to shoot a gun.
00:46:29 Like this.
00:46:31 So the film starts from here.
00:46:40 Finally, with this beginning, all the children are told a story.
00:46:50 Like Anupam is playing the role of a character.
00:46:54 So I have a thing with him.
00:46:57 What is he doing? What is he teaching people?
00:47:00 Do you know what violence means?
00:47:04 What happens?
00:47:06 The violence that is taught to children, the violence that they get into.
00:47:11 Do you know what happens?
00:47:13 I teach you, I tell you a story.
00:47:16 And then the story is told.
00:47:18 And then the rivalry between Dileep and Rajkumar.
00:47:23 The whole film is played by highlighting that.
00:47:26 And finally when the film ends.
00:47:29 So this terrorist goes to the pass, where the story was being told.
00:47:36 He goes to the pass from there.
00:47:38 There is a bridge there.
00:47:40 There is a bridge above the river.
00:47:42 He throws a gun from above that bridge.
00:47:46 And the gun freezes.
00:47:48 And the film ends there.
00:47:50 It was so important.
00:47:52 In between, Anupam and I have a confrontation.
00:47:59 The story is told, and in between the story comes back.
00:48:02 Their story goes on, and then we have a confrontation.
00:48:06 So the story was going on like this.
00:48:09 And the first film.
00:48:11 When I came to Bombay, the first film.
00:48:16 Such a big film.
00:48:18 And I told everyone.
00:48:21 And the work, the respect I had.
00:48:23 As an actor, as a theatre artist, as a teacher.
00:48:28 I brought all that respect together.
00:48:31 And when it happened that.
00:48:34 They made the film for 4.5 hours.
00:48:39 Because of the duration.
00:48:41 The duration was 4.5 hours.
00:48:43 So somehow they cut half an hour.
00:48:47 So 4 hours were left.
00:48:49 Then they cut a little more.
00:48:51 So 4.75 hours were left.
00:48:53 What to cut now?
00:48:55 So someone suggested to them.
00:48:57 If you take out this character.
00:48:59 Don't take it that way.
00:49:01 Start their story straight.
00:49:04 So that idea came to their mind.
00:49:10 So they took out that character.
00:49:14 So I was in a lot of trauma at that time.
00:49:17 Because that was the reason.
00:49:19 When people have said.
00:49:21 And this and that.
00:49:23 I won't see it now.
00:49:25 What is my respect?
00:49:27 I was in a lot of trouble at that time.
00:49:29 So Ghai Sahib did not talk to you.
00:49:31 During this time.
00:49:33 Something said last time.
00:49:35 I kept coming out.
00:49:37 And his brother kept telling me.
00:49:40 Not now.
00:49:42 I will tell you.
00:49:44 Finally.
00:49:46 Nothing happened from his side.
00:49:48 Maybe he was in it.
00:49:50 What should I say.
00:49:52 Then did you work again with him?
00:49:54 No.
00:49:56 Then you didn't work with Ghai Sahib.
00:49:58 Neither did he call me.
00:50:00 Nor did I go to him.
00:50:02 So the sad part of this.
00:50:04 Do you still regret that Ghai Sahib did not call you again?
00:50:07 Or did he not give you work?
00:50:09 Or should he have given you a chance.
00:50:11 Casting you in a film.
00:50:13 It would have been nice if he had given me a chance.
00:50:15 But I understand people's helplessness.
00:50:17 I understand the trend here.
00:50:19 There are a lot of people.
00:50:21 Who I have put on the blacklist.
00:50:23 I have put them in the blacklist.
00:50:25 I have put them in the blacklist.
00:50:27 I have put them in the blacklist.
00:50:29 I have put them in the blacklist.
00:50:31 I have put them in the blacklist.
00:50:33 I have put them in the blacklist.
00:50:35 Okay.
00:50:37 There is Ghai Sahib in it.
00:50:39 So I have a lot of people in me.
00:50:41 So I don't like meeting them.
00:50:43 Nor do I ever try to meet them.
00:50:45 Everyone is top line people.
00:50:47 I don't want to meet them.
00:50:49 There is a lot of life.
00:50:51 There are a lot of people.
00:50:53 Except them.
00:50:55 So why?
00:50:57 So don't make them awkward.
00:50:59 Nor are you awkward.
00:51:01 I would like to ask you something about 'OMG'.
00:51:03 When 'OMG' came out, it was a hit.
00:51:05 With Akshay Kumar.
00:51:07 And Paresh Rawal was with you.
00:51:09 Your role was also very important in it.
00:51:11 And then its sequel came out.
00:51:13 That was also a hit.
00:51:15 Although it was less in front of 'Gadar 2'.
00:51:17 But it also did a good collection at the box office.
00:51:19 So the message given to the public
00:51:21 from both these films.
00:51:23 And the success of the films
00:51:25 which the viewers liked.
00:51:27 The message given.
00:51:29 How do you see it now?
00:51:31 We see it positively.
00:51:33 The message given in this film.
00:51:35 No one has dared to give
00:51:37 such a message.
00:51:39 This is such a big thing.
00:51:41 And with so much confidence.
00:51:43 And I am the director.
00:51:45 How much I praise him.
00:51:47 It is less.
00:51:49 The way he wrote.
00:51:51 He must have thought.
00:51:53 The way he thought.
00:51:55 The way he thought.
00:51:57 The way he thought.
00:51:59 And he knows
00:52:01 that when such a subject
00:52:03 will be seen in films.
00:52:05 Then what will be his reaction.
00:52:07 So to balance that reaction.
00:52:09 How to design the film.
00:52:11 These things
00:52:13 are not of
00:52:15 an ordinary mind.
00:52:17 When such films come.
00:52:19 People also oppose.
00:52:21 Oppose.
00:52:23 What message do you give?
00:52:25 Oppose.
00:52:27 What are you showing?
00:52:29 But today the situation is that
00:52:31 teachers want to show.
00:52:33 Parents want to show their children.
00:52:35 Their own safety.
00:52:37 Children should know
00:52:39 bad touch and good touch.
00:52:41 When they get time for the message.
00:52:43 How to deal with it.
00:52:45 That should be shown.
00:52:47 How these bogus
00:52:49 kind of doctors
00:52:51 mislead such children.
00:52:53 Who blackmail.
00:52:55 All these things
00:52:57 have come in front of people.
00:52:59 What parents could not tell their children.
00:53:01 This is what a film says.
00:53:03 When a film says.
00:53:05 What a big message it is.
00:53:07 Did you get any impact from OMG?
00:53:09 Did you change?
00:53:11 That no, this should not happen.
00:53:13 These are stupid things.
00:53:15 Your family.
00:53:17 Your background.
00:53:19 From the beginning.
00:53:21 You have always had faith in God.
00:53:23 Your family.
00:53:25 You are also a big devotee of Sai Baba.
00:53:27 And other things.
00:53:29 You follow strictly.
00:53:31 The view of devotion.
00:53:33 So how much
00:53:35 OMG effect
00:53:37 in your life.
00:53:39 Did you change?
00:53:41 When OMG was released.
00:53:43 First OMG.
00:53:45 So.
00:53:47 During its shooting.
00:53:49 And even after watching the film.
00:53:51 And.
00:53:53 During the shooting.
00:53:55 When we studied such people.
00:53:57 Yes.
00:53:59 So we hated such people.
00:54:01 Yes.
00:54:03 In the name of religion.
00:54:05 In the name of God.
00:54:07 Blackmail people.
00:54:09 With their.
00:54:11 With religious sentiments.
00:54:13 They forget them.
00:54:15 Yes.
00:54:17 We hated them.
00:54:19 And.
00:54:21 I used to have a lot of faith.
00:54:23 Give me money.
00:54:25 I stopped giving money.
00:54:27 And I used to go to Siddhi.
00:54:29 So when the film was released.
00:54:31 So.
00:54:33 I went after 15-20 days.
00:54:35 So.
00:54:37 They said.
00:54:39 Brother, what did you do?
00:54:41 People are not coming here.
00:54:43 Really.
00:54:45 The film that we used to upload.
00:54:47 That is not happening.
00:54:49 What did you do?
00:54:51 I said we did nothing.
00:54:53 We.
00:54:55 We pointed out such bogus people.
00:54:57 We pointed out such bogus people.
00:54:59 We pointed out such bogus people.
00:55:01 The genuine ones are going to stay.
00:55:03 So the public will decide.
00:55:05 Who is genuine and who is not.
00:55:07 This is the initial reaction.
00:55:09 You see.
00:55:11 Everything will be fine.
00:55:13 If you are genuine.
00:55:15 We are genuine.
00:55:17 The temple is genuine.
00:55:19 So his reaction was.
00:55:21 Since then I have stopped giving money.
00:55:23 Really.
00:55:25 This change has come.
00:55:27 Such people.
00:55:29 Do not blindly follow.
00:55:31 Do not blindly follow.
00:55:33 This awakening has come.
00:55:35 And this is what we have taught our children.
00:55:37 This is what we have.
00:55:39 In our friend circle.
00:55:41 This is what we have taught everyone.
00:55:43 And everyone has followed it.
00:55:45 Why should you blindly follow?
00:55:47 Until you.
00:55:49 Until you do not believe in their deity.
00:55:51 How will you.
00:55:53 Follow blindly.
00:55:55 You will keep doing according to them.
00:55:57 You will donate.
00:55:59 That's it.
00:56:01 In your film career.
00:56:03 You worked with three Bollywood Khans.
00:56:05 You did Garb with Salman Khan.
00:56:07 And did another film.
00:56:09 You worked with Amir Khan.
00:56:11 You worked with Amir Khan.
00:56:13 In Sarfaroz.
00:56:15 You did a character by expiring from Viren.
00:56:17 And after that.
00:56:19 If we talk about inheritance.
00:56:21 The role of Birju Thakur.
00:56:23 I can never forget.
00:56:25 How you did it.
00:56:27 In a very magnificent way.
00:56:29 If we talk about choosing three top characters.
00:56:31 In your film life.
00:56:33 Which films will be.
00:56:35 This character is closest to your heart.
00:56:37 Which one you enjoyed the most.
00:56:39 You are right.
00:56:41 Birju Thakur.
00:56:43 He had to work hard.
00:56:45 To do it.
00:56:47 We observed.
00:56:49 People who were kidnapped.
00:56:51 And luckily.
00:56:53 Coincidentally.
00:56:55 Two people who were observed.
00:56:57 One of them was a doctor.
00:56:59 Who was kidnapped.
00:57:01 So he got a lot of information.
00:57:03 That other people can't tell.
00:57:05 When you are kidnapped.
00:57:07 How your mind works.
00:57:09 How your mind tries to save itself.
00:57:11 And you can't do anything.
00:57:13 So what all you try.
00:57:15 And you want to scream.
00:57:17 But you can't scream.
00:57:19 Because you are holding your mouth.
00:57:21 He got a lot of information.
00:57:23 After that.
00:57:25 And the other people.
00:57:27 He gave a lot of information.
00:57:29 About the activities.
00:57:31 About the activities.
00:57:33 That a person.
00:57:35 Who can't walk.
00:57:37 Can't speak.
00:57:39 How he will express his feelings.
00:57:41 If he will do.
00:57:43 Then he will tell.
00:57:45 If he is thirsty.
00:57:47 Then he will speak.
00:57:49 If he is angry.
00:57:51 Then he will show his anger.
00:57:53 So how he will show.
00:57:55 So after observing all this.
00:57:57 We got a way.
00:57:59 How to show.
00:58:01 These emotions.
00:58:03 If we talk about Amrish Puri.
00:58:05 He used to design his own look.
00:58:07 He used to design his own look.
00:58:09 And you also had an incident.
00:58:11 With Sir Frost.
00:58:13 That the look of Viren.
00:58:15 Did you design it?
00:58:17 Or is it said that.
00:58:19 I design it.
00:58:21 All the characters I have done.
00:58:23 In which my look.
00:58:25 I decide the look.
00:58:27 Deciding means.
00:58:29 I take suggestions.
00:58:31 That this is this.
00:58:33 This is this.
00:58:35 To the director.
00:58:37 His appearance should look like this.
00:58:39 His beard should look like this.
00:58:41 His moustache should look like this.
00:58:43 His clothes should look like this.
00:58:45 In his support.
00:58:47 I also apply that material.
00:58:49 That why is it like this.
00:58:51 The kind of mental state.
00:58:53 The kind of tastes of a person.
00:58:55 The kind of nature.
00:58:57 The kind of nature.
00:58:59 The kind of clothes.
00:59:01 The kind of colours.
00:59:03 The kind of designs.
00:59:05 I take all that in support.
00:59:07 And it has happened every time.
00:59:09 That no one has rejected.
00:59:11 In fact, they are happy.
00:59:13 The work that was theirs.
00:59:15 They have supported me in that.
00:59:17 Only in one meeting.
00:59:19 And with that.
00:59:21 I show them.
00:59:23 I tell them.
00:59:25 The character of the character.
00:59:27 Because this character is like this.
00:59:29 So its sound.
00:59:31 What should be the tone?
00:59:33 How will be the tone?
00:59:35 What will be his tone?
00:59:37 I tell them in two sentences.
00:59:39 So they understand.
00:59:41 How this character will look overall.
00:59:43 You have worked with three Khans of Bollywood.
00:59:45 You have worked with three Khans of Bollywood.
00:59:47 How was that experience?
00:59:49 What kind of personality are these three Khans?
00:59:51 Very good.
00:59:53 In the matter of work or personally?
00:59:55 Personally.
00:59:57 And in the matter of work.
00:59:59 That's why they are stars.
01:00:01 And people like them.
01:00:03 Shahrukh is a workaholic.
01:00:05 He works 24 hours a day.
01:00:07 And people keep doing it.
01:00:09 What a great quality of any star.
01:00:11 What a great quality of any star.
01:00:13 If you have produced a film.
01:00:15 You have to balance the production side.
01:00:17 If you have produced a film.
01:00:19 You have to balance the production side.
01:00:21 If you have produced a film.
01:00:23 You have to balance the production side.
01:00:25 You have to honour the outside engagements.
01:00:27 You have to honour the outside engagements.
01:00:29 You have worked with Kareena Kapoor.
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01:05:31 Would you like to do it?
01:05:33 I was confused because I had decided
01:05:35 that I don't want to do television.
01:05:37 Because my focus was
01:05:39 to work in films
01:05:41 and to establish
01:05:43 as a villain in films.
01:05:45 as a villain in films.
01:05:47 So I was a little confused.
01:05:49 So I was a little confused.
01:05:51 I said, "Okay, I will call you in the evening."
01:05:53 Whenever there is confusion,
01:05:55 I always discuss it with my wife.
01:05:57 I always discuss it with my wife.
01:05:59 I have always had her support.
01:06:01 I have always had her support.
01:06:03 In all kinds of problems,
01:06:05 I have always had her support.
01:06:07 I have always had her support.
01:06:09 She is my strength.
01:06:11 I discussed it with her.
01:06:13 I have two feelings in my mind.
01:06:15 One is that
01:06:17 if I do television,
01:06:19 it shouldn't be like
01:06:21 I don't get films.
01:06:23 I shouldn't entertain you.
01:06:25 I shouldn't entertain you.
01:06:27 I shouldn't entertain you.
01:06:29 The other thing is that
01:06:31 if I get this character,
01:06:33 he said that it is the main character.
01:06:35 I said, "If I get the main character,
01:06:37 I will have enough character
01:06:39 to establish
01:06:41 that I can do other work
01:06:43 other than being an inspector."
01:06:45 other than being an inspector."
01:06:47 So I have two feelings.
01:06:49 I have to decide.
01:06:51 I have to decide.
01:06:53 In the film, you played the role of your father.
01:06:55 Yes, I played the role of a businessman.
01:06:57 Yes, I played the role of a businessman.
01:06:59 It was a serial called Parivartan.
01:07:01 It was a UTV serial.
01:07:03 It was a UTV television series.
01:07:05 It was a UTV television series.
01:07:07 Have you ever regretted
01:07:09 or missed any role
01:07:11 in the films you have played?
01:07:13 Or is there a dream role
01:07:15 that you want to play?
01:07:17 Or is there a dream role
01:07:19 that you want to play?
01:07:21 I have different dreams.
01:07:23 I believe that
01:07:25 the work I have done,
01:07:27 the roles I have played,
01:07:29 the films I have played,
01:07:31 the way I have worked with directors,
01:07:33 I have worked with producers,
01:07:35 people still remember
01:07:37 my characters,
01:07:39 they remember.
01:07:41 They tell me in dialogues
01:07:43 what I have done.
01:07:45 So,
01:07:47 there is no definition of best.
01:07:49 There is no definition of best.
01:07:51 If you do this,
01:07:53 it becomes the best.
01:07:55 There is no ultimate.
01:07:57 Whatever you do,
01:07:59 it is less than the ultimate.
01:08:01 So, the work I have done,
01:08:03 whatever work I get,
01:08:05 whatever work I have to do,
01:08:07 whatever work I have to do,
01:08:09 I do it with 100% effort.
01:08:11 I do it with 100% effort.
01:08:13 I do it with 100% effort.
01:08:15 Even after getting old,
01:08:17 even after getting old,
01:08:19 even after having so much experience,
01:08:21 I don't stop.
01:08:23 Whatever work I do,
01:08:25 I do it first.
01:08:27 First, I go for the look,
01:08:29 then I go for the characterization,
01:08:31 then I prepare it accordingly.
01:08:33 Now,
01:08:35 whatever films you have seen,
01:08:37 this,
01:08:39 Meghna Gunjarwali,
01:08:41 it is a small role,
01:08:43 but you will feel,
01:08:45 this is Sardar Patel's character.
01:08:47 Have you ever felt that
01:08:49 a role is being played by another villain,
01:08:51 and you were offered that role,
01:08:53 and you rejected it,
01:08:55 and when the other person did it,
01:08:57 it will be revealed.
01:08:59 Have you ever felt regret
01:09:01 or rejected any film,
01:09:03 which you later regretted?
01:09:05 No, no, I have never felt rejected.
01:09:07 There were many films,
01:09:09 which I did not do for many reasons,
01:09:11 and others did,
01:09:13 but I have never felt rejected.
01:09:15 I have always been thinking,
01:09:17 like Amrish Puri sir
01:09:19 made his name,
01:09:21 and I was very happy with that.
01:09:23 I did not get that status
01:09:25 while working as a villain.
01:09:27 But I am satisfied
01:09:29 that the work I have done,
01:09:31 people have accepted it in this way,
01:09:33 and I have been able to
01:09:35 differentiate myself
01:09:37 from other people,
01:09:39 and I have been able to
01:09:41 differentiate myself from
01:09:43 other people,
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