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00:00 Asalam o alikum viewers, welcome to the program.
00:02 In today's program, we have included some stories.
00:05 As you know, yesterday we did an episode in our program.
00:09 We did a segment that Noreen Farooq Sahiba is very worried and crying.
00:14 We saw a lot of it on social media that there is a chaos, it is a top trend.
00:18 Why is she crying? Is she still crying or has she become silent?
00:21 What are the incidents behind it? We will talk about it in detail.
00:26 Also, viewers, you know that our Tahiyyat Qaid is in the Tiktok division in Lahore.
00:32 There are different voices coming from the party.
00:34 Today, a news has been published in Don.
00:36 Hamza Shahbaz is also a little upset.
00:38 He says that we should keep the old party loyalists ahead.
00:43 Yesterday, there was an interview. Viewers, you may remember Mohammad Zubair.
00:47 I think he is still a spokesperson.
00:51 Former Prime Minister Tahiyyat Qaid Nawaz Sharif and his daughter, who is also the chief organizer of Pakistan Muslim League.
00:57 He said in an interview that there was a matter of privatization during 2015-16.
01:03 We spent millions of dollars and did all the work.
01:07 But one day, the French minister, Ishaq Dar, came and ruined all the work we did.
01:14 I think there was a lot of loss in financial terms.
01:19 Why is Mohammad Zubair giving an interview on this occasion?
01:24 We will ask Hassan Ayub.
01:26 Today's viewers are top story.
01:28 You know that since a few days, this matter has started.
01:32 The electoral process has started.
01:34 The matter of collecting the nomination papers has started.
01:37 Complaints are being received from all over the country.
01:40 Some people are doing this on purpose.
01:43 We are saying this because there are videos and incidents on social media.
01:49 We will see the verification process and FIR later.
01:56 But all these things are happening.
01:58 Today, an incident has happened in Adiala jail.
02:02 You can call it inside or outside Adiala jail.
02:05 You may remember that in the Cipher case, Supreme Court of Pakistan's three-member bench,
02:11 which was headed by Chief Justice, Justice Tariq, Justice Mansoor and Justice Ramanallah,
02:20 they gave a bail.
02:21 After the bail, it was found that they will be arrested under the MPO.
02:30 That too was over.
02:32 When they came out of jail today, you can see on your screen,
02:36 that all our respected former politicians are respected for us.
02:43 They are respectable.
02:44 Innocent until proven guilty.
02:45 Be it any politician or any Pakistani citizen.
02:48 But obviously, they are our elders.
02:50 They have been a two-time foreign minister.
02:54 Obviously, before this, they were the foreign minister of the Pakistan People's Party.
02:56 Then they were the senior vice chairman of Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf.
03:00 They were the foreign minister.
03:02 Today, when they came out of jail, let's see what they said.
03:09 [Police shouting]
03:34 [Police shouting]
04:01 You know, Nazirin Sham Qureshi is a servant.
04:04 He has his own tribe and he heads it.
04:07 Obviously, Nazirin is a great politician.
04:11 Later, it was said that he was involved in a GHQ attack.
04:16 An FIR was filed against him.
04:18 He was arrested under that case.
04:20 But his family is still saying that they have no idea where he is kept.
04:26 What is his relationship with them?
04:28 The news is that he will be presented before the court at any time.
04:34 A while ago, we saw a tweet from the head of the state, President of Pakistan.
04:40 The tweet is in English.
04:43 He is saying, "Let us not become a state where human rights and dignity are trampled upon with impunity.
04:49 Incidents of paper snatching, brutal actions on protesters,
04:52 and now treating an ex-Foreign Minister from two regimes in an undignified manner must draw the attention of the authorities.
05:00 Detracting arguments that similar incidents have happened before do not cut ties between Pakistan.
05:07 Must change NFP as a nation. Agree there is no better time than starting now."
05:13 He is trying to explain that the fundamental rights of the country are being trampled upon.
05:22 He is mentioning the incidents that Chaudhary Sahib told us about in Lahore.
05:25 Such incidents are happening in Punjab.
05:27 How people's papers are being snatched.
05:33 This whole matter has happened.
05:34 Let's go to Chaudhary Sahib first.
05:36 Chaudhary Ghulam Sahin Sahib, when you saw Shah Moor Qureshi Sahib in this condition,
05:43 you were saying that the court has given you this relief.
05:47 I have a three-member bench, honourable Chief Justice,
05:51 who was headed by him, I have also received relief from him.
05:55 Kindly let me go.
05:56 You were standing, but later everything happened.
05:59 It is in front of you.
06:00 What was your first reaction as an experienced political commentator?
06:04 You have booked jails from the 70s onwards.
06:06 You have also seen the Musleh Farjeem's.
06:09 What do you remember or how does it feel after seeing such incidents?
06:14 These are increasing.
06:15 These incidents are happening here in the age of education.
06:19 More than one crore Pakistanis are spread out in the world.
06:23 They see the world's environment, society, laws, and their actions.
06:28 I think that this video of today, about Mahmood Shah Qureshi,
06:34 even his worst opponents can never accuse him of financial corruption.
06:41 Everyone else, who has the opportunity and who doesn't, that's besides the point.
06:46 Today, the incidents that have happened, people are standing in queue.
06:50 Tears are flowing from the heart.
06:52 For God's sake, stop it.
06:55 No action has been taken yet.
06:58 It is not possible to write a letter to the President.
07:01 The Chief Justice of Pakistan, Lahore High Court, or other authorities,
07:09 had to arrest these people, get their uniforms removed, and lock them up in jails.
07:15 Then they would not raise their hands on anyone again.
07:19 I myself saw, that the person who had a short hair,
07:23 and he grabbed him, and pushed him into the car.
07:28 For God's sake, stop it.
07:30 First, the Jager Sahib has become too much.
07:33 After that, lies.
07:35 I said it very loudly yesterday, but you have no effect.
07:38 And, false statements, lies, and fake things,
07:45 you have all your influence on this.
07:48 And now, you say, "I have read it somewhere."
07:51 I don't know, you have to correct it.
07:53 They said, "If the court is interfering, then we will not hold the elections."
07:58 They said, "You should directly send the PTI out of the elections,
08:01 then the elections will be held."
08:04 Let's talk about this.
08:06 Hassan Ayub Sahib, you yourself, coming from a political background,
08:10 some of your family members have been in politics.
08:13 Being a politician, how do you see this?
08:16 If I see, what lessons should we learn from the political figures in Pakistan?
08:23 I am talking about this particular incident,
08:26 but in general, there should be no personality with anyone.
08:29 There is no disagreement on this.
08:31 There should be no manhandling.
08:33 I think there is no manhandling.
08:34 They have been pushed, but the manhandling is a little different.
08:37 What is that?
08:38 Manhandling and that...
08:39 I mean, they have been pushed, they have been put in a car, in a stone-carved car.
08:42 But do you know which cases Mr. Qureshi has been put in?
08:46 Do you have any idea?
08:48 I have no sympathy for him.
08:50 No, no, before that, there is news coming in,
08:53 because his family is saying that they do not have any confirmed FIR or anything like that.
09:00 Yes, he has been put in jail for the GHQ attack on 9th May.
09:04 But...
09:05 I am telling you, listen to me.
09:07 If you look at the sequence, you will know that
09:10 on 6th May, the Bani Chairman of the Tariq-e-Insaf and his leadership
09:15 had a meeting in Chakri,
09:17 where it was decided that if the Bani Chairman is arrested,
09:21 then you have to march towards the GHQ.
09:23 Then on 7th May, there is a Zoom meeting, Mr. Qureshi is also part of that.
09:27 He is included in the entire conspiracy of 9th May.
09:31 The people who are already arrested,
09:33 they have been included in their testimony.
09:38 And today's Zoom meetings are not there.
09:40 Two conveners of JIT have gone to jail and have been interrogated.
09:46 I believe that on 25th October or November,
09:49 I am sure it is 25th October or it has already happened.
09:52 They have been released today, right?
09:54 It is still December.
09:55 On October or November, that is, a month or two months ago,
09:58 they have already been interrogated.
10:00 And not only in this case, but in other cases too, the police are required.
10:04 When there is already a trial going on in a case,
10:07 then the police do not arrest because the matter is that they cannot investigate further.
10:12 So, Mr. Qureshi is not the only case, there are other cases too.
10:17 And his own people's testimonies are included in the Zoom meetings.
10:21 So this is the reason, and I have no sympathy.
10:24 The people involved in 9th May should be arrested.
10:29 Along with this, the second thing is that the Supreme Court's order,
10:33 says that if this person is not involved in any other case,
10:37 then he should be released on bail.
10:40 So he is involved in other cases.
10:41 So you are saying that there was no basic FIR on him,
10:45 and later some charges have been brought against him.
10:49 Sir, the conspiracy that has been designed on 9th May,
10:53 is included in the design of 9th May conspiracy.
10:58 So far, unless proven guilty, he is accused.
11:03 So if he is innocent, then may Allah grant him freedom.
11:08 And if he is guilty, then may Allah grant him punishment.
11:11 This is what I will say.
11:12 Viewers, Mr. Hassan Ayub is often talking about innocent until proven guilty.
11:18 Viewers, since we have been watching,
11:21 the 9th May incidents...
11:23 But you say something else.
11:24 Mr. Chaudhary, in the 9th May incidents,
11:27 if any accused is proven guilty,
11:31 and evidence is brought against him,
11:33 then if he is proven guilty,
11:35 then no Pakistani will have any sympathy for him.
11:38 There should be no sympathy.
11:40 But the question arises,
11:42 that when we sit on the media,
11:45 then we have to show a comparative analysis.
11:48 From 2016 onwards,
11:51 the Panama case,
11:54 all the cases,
11:56 on every occasion,
11:58 we have seen the government fighting their cases,
12:03 the punishments, the fines,
12:05 whatever the case was in the courts.
12:07 If we can show something,
12:09 then we have some clips for the viewers.
12:12 Hamza Shahbaz, viewers,
12:14 there were cases on him.
12:16 Later, he was acquitted.
12:18 See how the police...
12:20 I think there are some senior officers.
12:22 The ones who were present,
12:24 they were all inspectors.
12:26 Yes, they were.
12:27 The ones who were on the side,
12:28 they were the same.
12:29 Okay.
12:30 After that, you see,
12:31 our respected Tahajjud Qaid.
12:33 When he came,
12:34 he was a criminal at that time.
12:36 Later, he was acquitted from the courts.
12:38 It's a good thing.
12:39 The Lahore commissioner,
12:41 the senior police officers received him.
12:43 The High Commissioner from London sent him.
12:46 Basically, viewers,
12:48 our purpose in this program
12:50 is not to say that this is wrong or right.
12:54 Our purpose is to talk about
12:56 our senior political leadership,
13:00 across the board.
13:02 Suppose tomorrow,
13:03 any political party has a leader,
13:05 Pakistan People's Party,
13:06 Noon League, PTI, JIOF,
13:08 any political party.
13:09 The question is,
13:10 if there is a case against someone,
13:12 there should be an investigation.
13:15 But, viewers,
13:16 the way they are pushing,
13:18 if they keep standing there,
13:20 show viewers,
13:21 they are saying again,
13:22 I don't want to come out of jail.
13:24 He was with me.
13:25 Look, I have this.
13:27 Show me.
13:28 I have not seen any police official
13:31 or any FIR against him,
13:33 or documents,
13:34 or talking to him,
13:35 saying, "Lord, this is an FIR against you."
13:38 Or, the relatives who came,
13:39 they would have told them.
13:40 They would have told them.
13:41 They would have told them.
13:42 The officers of Rawalpindi Police,
13:45 I have spoken to them.
13:46 They have told me,
13:47 that our police has gone to them.
13:49 They have told them,
13:50 that, "Lord, we have arrested you."
13:52 So, when they came,
13:53 they waited for the media.
13:54 When the media people came close,
13:56 they started their speech.
13:57 It would have been great,
13:58 Listen to me,
13:59 it would have been great,
14:00 if the same police people
14:01 would have told the media,
14:02 "Lord, we have their arrest warrant,
14:04 we have the documents against them,
14:06 we have the evidence against them,
14:08 and we have an FIR,
14:09 we have to arrest them."
14:11 It is a good thing,
14:12 they should be arrested.
14:13 We will come out and arrest them.
14:15 What difference does it make,
14:16 if they are present there?
14:18 Our law enforcement agencies,
14:20 their attitude towards the accused
14:23 in the 9th of May,
14:24 is a little strict.
14:25 And I think, it is not illegal.
14:26 Because the states have attacked Pakistan.
14:28 They have attacked our state,
14:29 they have attacked our hearts,
14:30 the measures they have taken.
14:31 So, if they are involved,
14:33 such people,
14:34 then, with them,
14:35 you see,
14:36 no such person should be included,
14:38 who is innocent.
14:39 But, he is among the planners.
14:41 According to their statement,
14:43 according to the statements,
14:44 the witnesses who have come,
14:45 the people who have given their statements,
14:46 he was wanted.
14:47 Law enforcement agencies,
14:49 want him.
14:50 And that is why,
14:51 they have arrested him.
14:52 Yes, Jai Sahib.
14:53 Yes, Jai Sahib, over to you.
14:54 You call a competent authority,
14:57 that tonight,
14:59 note down the statements of your colleagues,
15:02 and at night,
15:03 Shah Mehmood,
15:04 and his former,
15:06 Bani Chairman,
15:07 and all the people,
15:08 who have a list,
15:10 hang them up,
15:11 so that,
15:12 they are somehow,
15:13 satisfied,
15:14 that there are no more
15:15 streets in the Sunjiya,
15:16 where the police are.
15:17 This is not going to happen.
15:18 No one is going to do anything,
15:19 on their statements.
15:20 And,
15:21 neither are the people,
15:22 who are being accused,
15:23 of this,
15:24 and they are dragging him.
15:26 I have seen the video myself.
15:28 I have been arrested,
15:30 eight times,
15:31 including the Shahi Qila,
15:32 up to the Batrin Akobat Khan,
15:34 I have been arrested,
15:35 on every level.
15:37 But,
15:38 no one has done this,
15:40 till date.
15:41 You are dragging him,
15:42 and you are making a scene.
15:44 You are doing a lot of nonsense.
15:46 These are legal matters,
15:48 obviously,
15:49 the police are handling this.
15:51 In light of this program,
15:53 we are saying,
15:54 that what is being said,
15:56 innocent until proven guilty,
15:58 you should go to a case,
16:00 with dignity,
16:01 the whole matter should be done.
16:03 Now,
16:04 if this is not manhandling,
16:05 then obviously,
16:06 we will not go beyond this.
16:07 This is not illegal arrest.
16:09 And,
16:10 you said in this program,
16:12 that they did this with India,
16:14 that they threw him out,
16:16 three judges.
16:18 Now,
16:19 have you got any shame?
16:21 That is a bail.
16:22 The people of India,
16:23 are not correcting this.
16:25 You see,
16:26 in the bail,
16:27 the merits were not touched.
16:29 In that,
16:30 the matter was not even detailed.
16:31 That has been evaluated from the top.
16:33 So,
16:34 in the bail,
16:35 the thing is,
16:36 you do not touch the merits of the case.
16:38 You,
16:39 the merits of the case,
16:40 in the trial,
16:41 they said,
16:42 in the further trial,
16:43 it will be further explained,
16:45 that is he guilty or not.
16:47 Viewers,
16:48 let's move ahead.
16:49 The next story is,
16:50 that this is obvious,
16:51 the courts are present in Pakistan,
16:52 high courts,
16:53 supreme court,
16:54 all cases are being heard there,
16:56 the matter of the playing field,
16:58 against whom,
16:59 these are the kinds of matters,
17:01 so obviously,
17:02 whatever the allegations are,
17:04 they will come forward,
17:05 the evidence will come forward.
17:06 Today, viewers,
17:07 obviously,
17:08 a solemn ceremony is being held,
17:09 in Ladkana,
17:10 from the Pakistan People's Party,
17:11 of the martyr,
17:12 Benazir Bhutto Sahiba.
17:13 There,
17:14 he was giving his speech,
17:15 respected Bilawal Bhutto Dadai,
17:16 what is he saying,
17:17 let's listen to this too.
17:18 We are not among those,
17:21 who run away from elections,
17:24 who keep extending the date,
17:28 who tear the nomination forms of their opponents.
17:32 We know how to compete.
17:37 Obviously, he is saying,
17:39 we are not among those,
17:40 who tear the nomination forms of their opponents.
17:42 Viewers,
17:43 in Punjab,
17:44 Pakistan Muslim League,
17:45 Noon,
17:46 is very worried.
17:47 She is saying,
17:48 that,
17:49 we are not present in the government,
17:50 the government is present.
17:51 Right now,
17:52 the election commission of Pakistan,
17:53 obviously,
17:54 when the election is announced,
17:55 the electoral process starts,
17:57 then the whole administrative matter,
17:59 which has to be kept in mind,
18:01 is the election commission of Pakistan.
18:03 Article 218,
18:04 Article 220,
18:05 Article 224,
18:06 all the executive authorities,
18:08 have to obey the orders,
18:10 of the election commission of Pakistan.
18:12 In this regard,
18:13 Javed Lateef,
18:14 yesterday also,
18:15 we made him give his speech.
18:16 He is very worried,
18:17 that whatever is happening,
18:19 is being put in our account.
18:21 This is a planned,
18:24 before election,
18:26 is being made controversial.
18:29 Seeing Nawaz Sharif's acceptance,
18:32 to make his results controversial,
18:35 and an impact is being given,
18:37 to snatch papers,
18:39 and to knock someone's door,
18:42 and to make someone,
18:43 a target of violence,
18:46 and to put his head,
18:48 on the Muslim League,
18:50 Noon,
18:51 politically,
18:53 that for their support,
18:55 this character is being played,
18:57 this is being acted.
18:59 Rana Sinawala,
19:01 has also said something like this,
19:03 that this is a drama-based party,
19:05 and is putting such allegations on us.
19:07 Neither are we targeting them,
19:10 nor are they our victims.
19:12 There is no case against them,
19:14 that is politically motivated.
19:16 The matter is,
19:17 that this is a drama-based party.
19:19 This party,
19:20 knows how to do drama,
19:22 has been doing drama,
19:24 on social media,
19:25 and on the media,
19:26 apart from doing such dramas,
19:28 they have no other work.
19:30 The matter is,
19:31 that this drama,
19:32 that our papers are being snatched,
19:34 our papers are not being allowed to enter.
19:37 This,
19:39 Hassan Ayub,
19:40 this is a social media party,
19:41 Rana Sinawala is informing us,
19:43 but Bilawal Bhutto Zardari,
19:44 is saying,
19:45 that why are you snatching papers,
19:47 there are more incidents in Punjab.
19:49 Then Asif Ali Zardari,
19:51 sir's sons,
19:53 the same Bilawal's brothers,
19:55 Mohsin Akbari,
19:56 are also in Punjab.
19:57 You are talking about Nigam Vizhala.
19:59 Yes, I am talking about Nigam Vizhala.
20:00 But the matter is,
20:01 that actually,
20:02 there are not that many incidents,
20:04 I told you in my show,
20:05 that where there were incidents,
20:07 the fiascoes that were snatched,
20:09 their papers were not allowed to enter.
20:11 Now,
20:12 many such old things,
20:14 they are presenting them as new,
20:16 on the level of the Secretary General.
20:18 So, when you are spreading lies,
20:20 then no one trusts your truth.
20:22 So, they should also,
20:23 pay attention to their own actions.
20:25 And see,
20:26 the incidents that happened,
20:27 in their own far-off government,
20:28 today they are making a lot of noise,
20:29 I don't know if that is true or not.
20:31 But it was true,
20:32 that what was done with JUI Fay,
20:34 in the parliament lodges,
20:35 when the vote of no confidence,
20:36 was coming against them.
20:38 At that time,
20:39 you saw,
20:40 that the way they behaved,
20:41 with the MLA's and Senators,
20:42 the way they behaved,
20:43 the government of that time,
20:44 and the Prime Minister of that time.
20:46 You can see this,
20:47 the photo,
20:48 he is talking about this incident.
20:50 This incident,
20:51 basically happened,
20:52 during the vote of no confidence.
20:54 Basically,
20:55 this happened,
20:56 that airway,
20:57 did a live coverage of that story,
20:59 that their Ansar,
21:01 especially,
21:02 Ansar-ul-Islam,
21:04 of JUI Fay,
21:06 they entered the lodges.
21:08 I will show you this,
21:10 you can see the footage.
21:11 They entered,
21:12 there,
21:13 the rest of the political party people,
21:15 they were worried,
21:17 that,
21:18 "we have security issues,
21:20 please come to the police,
21:21 listen to what they are saying,
21:22 listen to this story."
21:23 "Ahamkhabar,
21:24 CCTV video of Ansar-ul-Islam's entry,
21:26 has been released in the Parliament lodges.
21:28 The video of Ansar-ul-Islam's entry,
21:30 has exposed the police's ineptitude.
21:32 More than 50 Ansar-ul-Islam's workers,
21:34 have entered the Parliament lodges.
21:36 Zulqarnain Haider is with us.
21:38 Zulqarnain Haider,
21:39 please explain this video,
21:40 that we are showing to our viewers.
21:42 "Look,
21:43 this is the CCTV footage of the Parliament lodges,
21:45 in which it can be seen,
21:46 that more than 50 Ansar-ul-Islam's workers,
21:48 have entered the Parliament lodges.
21:50 The people,
21:51 who are wearing the Ansar-ul-Islam's uniform,
21:53 can also be seen,
21:54 in some of the common clothes,
21:56 with the MNA's,
21:58 Salauddin Ayubi,
22:00 they have entered the Parliament lodges,
22:02 and no one is there,
22:04 to stop them,
22:06 nor to question them."
22:08 Now, this is the story of
22:10 Shah Mookerishi,
22:12 and this is his story,
22:14 please explain to us,
22:16 how can this be a valid story?
22:18 "How can this be a valid story?
22:20 He is a Kaladam organization,
22:22 Ansar-ul-Islam,
22:24 he is a Puranman Shehri,
22:26 he is a defence line,
22:28 and he has come,
22:30 because the MNA's were his own,
22:32 the senators were his own,
22:34 the rooms,
22:36 where he was present,
22:38 were taken out from the rooms,
22:40 of the MNA's of the JUIF,
22:42 and this is the matter of Kulhish Shah,
22:44 if it's true,
22:46 I have no sympathies for Kulhish Shah,
22:48 that if Malabas is involved in the attack on JHQ,
22:50 and he is a part of the masterminds,
22:52 then again, if you have a sympathy,
22:54 then you tell us,
22:56 if he is involved,
22:58 then you have a sympathy, Mr. Kuman?
23:00 "You didn't hear a word,
23:02 a while ago, I think,
23:04 no one can say,
23:06 that he has been a part of the execution,
23:08 of the plan,
23:10 now the matter here is,
23:12 that you have heard the arguments,
23:14 then what to do,
23:16 what to find a solution for this,
23:18 he says, ok,
23:20 I don't know what he is saying,
23:22 I think you both do the program,
23:24 and give me permission,
23:26 no, no, please, Mr. Jaisalmer,
23:28 how can we do without you,
23:30 I am ready to be a part of the lies,
23:32 let's go to the break,
23:34 after that, the stories,
23:36 which we had mentioned to you,
23:38 sorry, the Pakistan Muslim League,
23:40 our Tahajjud Qaid,
23:42 is very worried,
23:44 about the distribution of Tik-Tok,
23:46 and many issues are arising,
23:48 Mr. Zubair's interview has also come,
23:50 his poster boy, Mr. Saad Dar,
23:52 he has made him the target of criticism,
23:54 now how is the politics of PMLN,
23:56 we will talk about this in detail,
23:58 after the break,
24:00 welcome back, viewers,
24:02 before talking about the distribution of Tik-Tok,
24:04 yesterday, a matter was discussed,
24:06 Noreen, why is Noreen crying,
24:08 viewers, you know,
24:10 that has become a hashtag,
24:12 regarding Noreen Sahiba,
24:14 yesterday, Hassan Ayub said,
24:16 that Noreen is crying,
24:18 because she didn't get a chance,
24:20 she didn't get a level playing field,
24:22 she wanted to fight for the election,
24:24 after that, when this story,
24:26 was broken on social media,
24:28 then some people put that evidence,
24:30 that when, you remember,
24:32 a while ago, Mr. Sarwar,
24:34 the governor of Pakistan,
24:36 left the country,
24:38 and went to the Kaflee,
24:40 there, Noreen Fatima Sahiba was found,
24:42 Noreen Farooq Sahiba,
24:44 I apologize,
24:46 Noreen Farooq Sahiba was found,
24:48 and that event was covered,
24:50 by the mainstream media,
24:52 Noreen Sahiba is standing there,
24:54 before this, a press conference was held,
24:56 and Mr. Sarwar,
24:58 also mentioned her,
25:00 today,
25:02 and I want to,
25:04 salute her,
25:06 Noreen Farooq,
25:08 Noreen Farooq,
25:10 Noreen Farooq,
25:12 she is also a politician,
25:14 a social activist,
25:16 and I think,
25:18 she is a part of PTI since 1999,
25:20 Noreen Sahiba,
25:22 how did she state her issue,
25:24 that also I want to tell you,
25:26 Noreen Farooq,
25:28 I am a PTI member since 1999,
25:30 I have been a PTI member for my whole life,
25:32 I was shocked,
25:34 that day,
25:36 that the people who filed these cases,
25:38 are not a part of PTI,
25:40 so I said, how could they deny me,
25:42 the people who have made so many sacrifices,
25:44 how could they deny me,
25:46 that I am not a part of PTI,
25:48 now what is the story,
25:50 she joined,
25:52 or is she innocent,
25:54 she is a sister,
25:56 yesterday you told us,
25:58 that Ali Zafar,
26:00 lied about her party membership,
26:02 in front of the court,
26:04 she is saying,
26:06 she is saying,
26:08 that she did not get the membership,
26:10 I was telling her yesterday,
26:12 I was not saying my point,
26:14 that Ali Zafar lied,
26:16 she is saying,
26:18 that Chaudhary Sarwar was a PTI Governor,
26:20 I had a relation with him,
26:22 when he called me to come there,
26:24 I went,
26:26 but I did not know,
26:28 that he will announce my membership,
26:30 now she is lying,
26:32 that a person who is a PTI,
26:34 is not that innocent,
26:36 I do not think she is innocent,
26:38 I am not an innocent person,
26:40 I have been through PTI,
26:42 yesterday you told us,
26:44 that she was crying,
26:46 she is sad,
26:48 she is worried,
26:50 I am very happy,
26:52 I am very happy,
26:54 yesterday you were celebrating,
26:56 her crying,
26:58 today she is crying on twitter,
27:00 she has made twitter wet,
27:02 I do not understand,
27:04 why she is crying,
27:06 I saw her tears,
27:08 I am surprised,
27:10 that Noreen Farooq,
27:12 is trying to set up,
27:14 she is a PTI,
27:16 if she is telling the truth,
27:18 she is a PTI,
27:20 because her case,
27:22 the election commission,
27:24 has to decide,
27:26 I am not in a position,
27:28 to decide,
27:30 that she is a PTI,
27:32 neither Ali Zafar,
27:34 nor you,
27:36 the election commission,
27:38 has to decide,
27:40 the court has to decide,
27:42 Mr. Chaudhary,
27:44 tell us,
27:46 that from yesterday,
27:48 till now,
27:50 did you feel,
27:52 or as Mr. Hassan Ayub,
27:54 is saying,
27:56 that people are worried,
27:58 she is crying,
28:00 she left in March,
28:02 when a person leaves the party,
28:04 what is the relation,
28:06 of his election,
28:08 but you will insist,
28:10 I am saying this,
28:12 I have asked you before,
28:14 if you,
28:16 if Shah Mehmood,
28:18 and his father,
28:20 Sajjad Sain, the former governor,
28:22 and Gadhir Shaheen,
28:24 and the whole of Sindh, and India, and Pakistan,
28:26 are full of their enemies,
28:28 you are looking for,
28:30 justifications for what has happened to them,
28:32 I am saying,
28:34 whoever wants to hang, do it,
28:36 but if you will drag it,
28:38 and Pakistan, which is a country of 25 crore,
28:40 what will be the international image,
28:42 about that,
28:44 I have this problem,
28:46 they did this, they did that,
28:48 what would Khaswan Khan have done,
28:50 your former leader,
28:52 Khadija, if you,
28:54 when people,
28:56 go and cry,
28:58 that this is happening to us,
29:00 then people will not listen to them,
29:02 or those who are,
29:04 in Balochistan, destroying peace,
29:06 in their name, the people sitting here,
29:08 people,
29:10 they will think they are right,
29:12 lets move ahead,
29:14 I agree with you,
29:16 being in big offices,
29:18 does not mean you are above the law,
29:20 every citizen,
29:22 you, me, our respect is as much,
29:24 as respected Shah Mahmood,
29:26 the way he was arrested,
29:28 you cannot do this to anyone,
29:30 all across,
29:32 this way, manhandling should not have been done,
29:34 no manhandling has been done,
29:36 but nothing has been done,
29:38 this could have been avoided,
29:40 if someone has done something wrong,
29:42 then you will not be punished for it,
29:44 lets move ahead,
29:46 viewers, Pakistan Muslim League Noon,
29:48 if you see the story today,
29:50 there was a news,
29:52 in Dawn, a very exclusive news,
29:54 my former newspaper,
29:56 that respected Shahbaz Sharif's,
29:58 son Hamza Shahbaz,
30:00 was a chief minister of Punjab,
30:02 Hamza expresses concerns over,
30:04 parties list of candidates,
30:06 if you read the story,
30:08 he said to his uncle,
30:10 our Tahirat Qaid,
30:12 our respected Nawaz Sharif,
30:14 that the party's loyalists,
30:16 who have been beaten,
30:18 you should give them tickets,
30:20 but what you saw today,
30:22 through the camera,
30:24 on a special helicopter,
30:26 our respected Shahbaz Sharif,
30:28 sat,
30:30 PM Allen's, Punjab's President,
30:32 Rana Sinhazad, he took him along,
30:34 so they went to war,
30:36 from there, Faisal Saleh Hayat,
30:38 he has joined PM Allen,
30:40 he has taken him,
30:42 on the board of PM Allen,
30:44 now there,
30:46 Hassan was telling me,
30:48 that he will talk later,
30:50 that he has left the whole district war,
30:52 on his will,
30:54 there he will decide,
30:56 a little background of Faisal Saleh Hayat,
30:58 he is from the old People's Party,
31:00 he has old ties with Benzir Bhutto Sahiba,
31:02 I will show you some pictures,
31:04 you will get an idea,
31:06 how close, this is a black and white picture,
31:08 you can see Shaheed,
31:10 you can see Maulana Fazlur Rahman,
31:12 Faisal Saleh Hayat,
31:14 this is the picture,
31:16 after that, the next picture,
31:18 you can see,
31:20 he was in Musharraf's cabinet,
31:22 this is also in front of you,
31:24 when the election was taking place,
31:26 Jamali was in it,
31:28 this is the cabinet,
31:30 Musharraf's Chief Executive,
31:32 later became President of Pakistan,
31:34 this is a part of it,
31:36 Prime Minister became for some time,
31:38 you can see pictures of him,
31:40 with Respected Shah Shah,
31:42 then in 2020,
31:44 this change of heart happened,
31:46 he remembered the old party,
31:48 he again went to the Pakistan People's Party,
31:50 how he is saying about the People's Party,
31:52 in the past, let us listen to this first,
31:54 I think this question should be asked,
31:56 from the People's Party,
31:58 from the government,
32:00 that you used to call us murderers,
32:02 you used to say,
32:04 we are murderers,
32:06 we are murderers of the democracy,
32:08 and we were taunted,
32:10 that we have supported a dictator,
32:12 how can they go to the houses of murderers,
32:14 how can they go to the houses of murderers,
32:16 how can they go to the houses of murderers,
32:18 and sit with the dictators,
32:20 and sit with the dictators,
32:22 this is a place of drowning for them,
32:24 this is a place of drowning for them,
32:26 you will remember,
32:28 because this Patriots,
32:30 this won the People's Party election,
32:32 they won the People's Party ticket in 2002,
32:34 and then became a part of the Patriots,
32:36 and then became a part of the Kaaf League,
32:38 and their parliamentarians joined the group,
32:40 he has said something about this too,
32:42 then in 2020,
32:56 he again goes to the Pakistan People's Party,
32:58 and sits with Zardari,
33:00 and sits with Zardari,
33:02 you can see,
33:04 Imam Zaman is tying him up,
33:06 the closeness has increased,
33:08 and now you have seen today's journey,
33:10 meanwhile, this is the Pakistan Football Federation,
33:12 from 2002 to 2015,
33:14 this president has also been there,
33:16 Hassan, and then this,
33:18 Pakistan Football,
33:20 if we can show you,
33:22 we are 195th in the world,
33:24 this is how this federation ran,
33:26 here we have one more picture,
33:28 if you can show it,
33:30 this is Ameer Muqam,
33:32 he is also with Jalam Sharif,
33:34 so this is a legitimate demand,
33:36 of Hamza Shahbaz,
33:38 that,
33:40 those who have been killed in the party,
33:42 the party's loyalists,
33:44 why don't you give them,
33:46 how much politics do you have to do this,
33:48 the opportunists?
33:50 In 2017-18,
33:52 when political engineering was done in Jhank,
33:54 Muslim League left Nawaz Sari,
33:56 so no one from Jhank,
33:58 had stayed in Muslim League Nawaz,
34:00 everyone had left,
34:02 so there were many places,
34:04 the place was empty,
34:06 so Faisal Saleh Yad,
34:08 took advantage of that,
34:10 and he understood that,
34:12 he can head this district,
34:14 you can see,
34:16 you can take your group,
34:18 so you know,
34:20 no principles, no principles,
34:22 you can see Lujtan or Jhank,
34:24 and Aamir Mukam,
34:26 Aamir Mukam is a very solid man,
34:28 Aamir Mukam is a very strong man,
34:30 he is standing on his feet,
34:32 he started with Farvez Musharraf,
34:34 but when he came to Muslim League Nawaz,
34:36 he is standing like a rock,
34:38 and he has seen every difficult time,
34:40 which he has faced in PTI,
34:42 the old people of PMLN,
34:44 in KP,
34:46 they are so capable,
34:48 that they have been removed,
34:50 they have gained their space,
34:52 and they have taken their space,
34:54 and if they have given their space,
34:56 then they have taken it,
34:58 now the last thing,
35:00 now the decision of Faisal Saleh Yad,
35:02 you are missing one thing,
35:04 that he has been the minister of People's Party,
35:06 in the government of Farvez Yad,
35:08 because when Q League,
35:10 and their alliance was there,
35:12 when Chaudhary Farvez Yad,
35:14 was the Deputy Prime Minister,
35:16 if you remember,
35:18 he was the one who mentioned,
35:20 that he was the Deputy Prime Minister,
35:22 and he was the Deputy Prime Minister,
35:24 and he was the Deputy Prime Minister,
35:26 and he was the Deputy Prime Minister,
35:28 and he was the Deputy Prime Minister,
35:30 and he was the Deputy Prime Minister,
35:32 and he was the Deputy Prime Minister,
35:34 and he was the Deputy Prime Minister,
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