Bobby Lytes Spills Tea On Family Drama With Trina, Natalie Nunn & Joseline Beef, Racist Jeffree Star

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00:00:00 [MUSIC]

00:00:10 I'm excited about my next guest because, you know, anytime I have a person on the show that I don't

00:00:22 know, never know where that's going to go. But when I have somebody that I do know, I know that I'm

00:00:26 going to go all the way in my bag. This next guest is somebody who many would say is a reality star,

00:00:33 an artist, some would call a ghost writer, and we're going to get into that. But he's my friend,

00:00:37 who I've actually kissed on camera. Give it up for Bobby Lights.

00:00:40 [APPLAUSE]

00:00:42 This is my camera. Is it this or which one is this?

00:00:44 They're all your, yeah, that's your camera right there, Bobby.

00:00:47 Okay, so look, Bobby Lights is on the show. Yesterday, I called Bobby and I said,

00:00:52 "Bobby, go to bed early so you can be fresh for the show." And you were...

00:00:56 Reluctant.

00:00:57 You were reluctant. Where did that come from? Because I feel like we're good enough friends.

00:01:01 What made you say, "I'm nervous about doing the show"?

00:01:05 So I'll begin with saying this. Jay said, "You're an icon. You're a legend. You're my friend first."

00:01:14 Absolutely. But, you know, sometimes, you know, when you're caught up in your work,

00:01:20 you're not able to really grasp what your friends are doing in their life. So you're not keeping up,

00:01:24 and every move you make, it just adds this level of, you know, power to your name, right? So we

00:01:30 got the Jason Lee show. Then I'm like, we got... He got Kiki Palmer, Black China, Cardi B. I'm like,

00:01:36 "Am I big enough? Am I good enough? Have I arrived? Am I worthy enough to sit on the Jason Lee couch?"

00:01:44 That's what it was. I think I was feeling nervous. I was nervous.

00:01:47 But this is the crazy part, and this is what I will say. I had talked about on Facebook and

00:01:53 somewhere, podcasts or somewhere, that I sometimes suffer from imposter syndrome.

00:01:56 I never know what that word is. What is that?

00:01:58 Imposter syndrome is where you don't believe you belong in the room.

00:02:01 That is what I suffer from.

00:02:03 That's what I'm saying. So when you did that yesterday, it reminds me of sometimes when I

00:02:08 find myself in spaces, because I know all the work I've done, and you know all the work that you've

00:02:11 done, but I still will find myself in some rooms where I'm like, "Oh my God, they're going to find

00:02:15 out I don't belong here. Oh my God, I don't believe I belong here."

00:02:18 Or sometimes they'll be like, "That's Bobby Lyfe. Ain't that bitch a motherfucking crazy

00:02:23 motherfucking cokehead bitch that's just ..."

00:02:24 But it's crazy because people will say what they want to say about us, but it's what we say about

00:02:31 ourselves and how we see ourselves that matters. I thought when I called you, excited that you're

00:02:35 coming on the show, and you're like, "Are you sure I'm big enough?" I'm like, "Yo."

00:02:38 I'm like, "You don't want to start off with a podcast?"

00:02:41 No, but let's be very clear. You've done a lot of work, and I met Bobby years ago,

00:02:46 and we all know him from Love & Hip Hop, and he's on this new show over at E!

00:02:49 Crazy House of Villains, which we're going to talk about. But you've done a lot of things,

00:02:54 not only for you as an individual, but for the gay community and the gay culture. So I do want

00:02:58 to give you your props. I met Bobby the first time in a club in Miami. I was walking through.

00:03:03 I was on Love & Hip Hop. I was probably three sizes.

00:03:07 He was famous then. I wasn't. I recognized him. I go up to him.

00:03:11 But now we have a debate on ... because I think you licked my face that day.

00:03:14 You keep saying that you licked my face, but I'm not sure if you want to admit that you licked my

00:03:18 face. But remember, you are a ... I'm not sure if you're actual, but you give top energy. I'm just

00:03:28 saying.

00:03:28 Big top. Put some respect on him.

00:03:30 Okay. I'm just saying. So I think that you definitely ... you've seen a little light-skinned

00:03:33 cutie, and you may have not known. You didn't know I was-

00:03:36 You thought I was trying to fuck you that night?

00:03:37 No. I don't know what ... I think you just had one too many drinks. You literally ... you went

00:03:41 like this. You're like, "And you licked my face." But guess what? I was like, "I love it." And I

00:03:45 went to ... and before I could even go to lick his face back, he's like, "Oh no." I'm like, "Wait,

00:03:50 how do you get to lick my face?" I'm like, "That's when I knew Jason Lee is literally ..."

00:03:54 But that moment, what I loved about it was I was giving that big top energy,

00:04:00 very confident, being gay in a gay club in Miami, and you came up to me and gave me my props.

00:04:05 Yeah.

00:04:05 Bobby then, I could tell ... I didn't know who he was. I didn't know what he did.

00:04:10 But you could tell you had this energy about you where the world was going to see you. And

00:04:14 I think he even said something like, "You'll see me soon." And then he just walked out.

00:04:16 I had just got casted for Love, Hip Hop Miami, but it took two years before it came out. We had

00:04:21 to do pilot and this whole thing.

00:04:23 So when did you know ... so we know that your cousin is Trina, a famous hip hop trailblazer,

00:04:30 Miami ... I mean, just she's Trina.

00:04:33 Legend, icon.

00:04:34 She's an icon. So you were always Trina's cousin, but when did you know that you wanted

00:04:39 to be another star in the family?

00:04:40 So fun fact, I'm not even sure if I've talked about this on interviews before, but Trina and

00:04:48 I ... so I didn't know Trina was my cousin until I was like 16, 17. We never grew up together.

00:04:54 She hated ... she still to this day hates my side of the family, our side of the family,

00:05:01 which makes us related, and that is our father's side. Her father is my father's brother.

00:05:06 So one day, it was around Christmas time, my sister happened to go up north,

00:05:09 because I'm from Homestead, up north to spend time with our grandmother in Miami,

00:05:15 which is 30 minutes from Homestead. Anyways, long story short, she called me. She's like,

00:05:20 "Bobby, guess who our cousin is? She just came and said hi to our grandmother just to come by."

00:05:24 And so my last name is Wade. So I'm like, "Dwayne Wade?"

00:05:29 Bitch, we from Miami, Dwayne Wade. So then she's like, "No, it's a female." I'm like,

00:05:36 "Who is it?" She's like, "Trina." I'm like, "The rapper?" And then I almost fucking ... I

00:05:44 queefed out my mouth. It happens. It happens.

00:05:48 So then I'm like, "Trina?" She's been literally ... it was Kim and then it was Trina.

00:05:55 And you never met her?

00:05:56 Never, never, but I was a fan, ironically, as a secretly gay man. I still didn't come out of the

00:06:02 closet until 1918, but still, I was getting close to coming out of the closet. The point is, I'm

00:06:06 like, "What?" So from there is when I kind of find out ... then it took a whole journey. It took five

00:06:11 years before I even got her a Good Graces. I would come around, my first time, I said, "I'm going to ...

00:06:17 I see one of her bookings." I'm like, "Online, this is MySpace days." I'm like, "I'm about to

00:06:20 go to this booking." And I went, showed up, bombarded my way through the crowd, everything,

00:06:26 get in the section. I'm like, "I'm your cousin." And she's looking at me like this. She's like ...

00:06:31 She probably thought you were some crazy fan.

00:06:34 She thought I was insane.

00:06:35 Yes. You are insane.

00:06:37 I am insane. I think she realized I was insane. That was the reaction I thought. She realized.

00:06:41 So anyways, I was like ... and then in that moment, though, even though she was shocked,

00:06:46 she kind of verified with people amongst her camp that are more tapped into the culture,

00:06:51 family background, because she really didn't give a fuck about that side. She would literally just

00:06:55 close it out. And I think within that moment, that same night, they kind of were just like,

00:07:00 "I think that is you, because that is ... that's your uncle. That's your cousin."

00:07:03 Anyway, so from there, it was just kind of like that was the beginning. And then it took a long

00:07:07 time. Fast forward three years, Love & Hip Hop happens. They were filming without me. I was

00:07:13 never on the show. They were filming. Mona had a pilot ready for like a year. The pilot didn't do

00:07:19 what it was supposed to do. They didn't put out the show. But out of nowhere, one day, I got wind,

00:07:24 caught wind that they're doing Love & Hip Hop Miami. And I'm like, "What?" So I reached out to

00:07:29 anyone. I started reaching out. And out of nowhere, I find out that Felicia Monet, who is a big radio

00:07:36 personality in Miami, is in charge of casting, basically because since she's from Miami,

00:07:42 she was able to connect dots, kind of know who's the who's in Miami. So I reached out to her. I'm

00:07:47 like, "Listen, this is my story. Trina is my cousin, my first cousin. She doesn't want to

00:07:53 support ... " I went off on this rant, this storyline, just throwing Trina under the bus,

00:07:58 trying to get ... And you didn't tell Trina you did that?

00:08:00 I didn't have her number. She didn't fuck with me then. I was like, "I have nothing else to lose

00:08:04 now." At this point, it's facts. We are cousins. We are first cousins. We share the same blood.

00:08:09 I'm like, "Fuck it. I ain't got shit to lose, bitch. I'm about to tell my story."

00:08:12 I tell my story, and they reach out. They're like, "We want to hear more from you." And

00:08:17 sure enough, I get a Zoom call with Mona and the producers, casting directors. And before you know

00:08:25 it, they had me film. And shit just went ... I mean, it went from me being a part of her storyline

00:08:31 to then they call me two weeks later. They're like, they have all the big wigs at VH1 of Icon

00:08:37 on the phone. Like, "How can we help tell your story a little bit more? We want to expand more

00:08:43 to your story. We wanted you on a C storyline, thought you were going to be B. Now we want you

00:08:47 at an A storyline." And they gave me my own storyline. I made opening credits. The first

00:08:52 openly gay man, the first gay man to make opening credits on Love & Hip Hop or any reality show,

00:08:59 actually. Well, there was Milan Christopher.

00:09:01 He never made opening credits. Oh, he didn't.

00:09:02 He was on the show. No, I'm just saying he was on the show. Shout out to Milan. Hey,

00:09:07 sis. But he never made opening credit. They never gave him a ...

00:09:09 You're right. You're right.

00:09:10 I made opening credit. I didn't even make opening credit.

00:09:11 And I wasn't even a main star. I was like ...

00:09:14 I mean, you threw a drink on Hazel E. Hey, but anyway, continue.

00:09:17 That's what made ... By the way, that's what made me love him. I was like, "Oh, he's me.

00:09:21 Bitch. He's like me. He's like, 'Bitch, I ain't put it ... I ain't hit you.'" That little splashing

00:09:26 arm. Listen, listen. Let me ask you. Let's go back to ... So you and Trina both are related on

00:09:31 your father's side, but did both of you get along with your fathers? Because your father wasn't in

00:09:35 your life, right? My father has been in prison from the moment I was seven years old. I don't

00:09:38 even know what it is to hear his voice say, "Come on, son. Let's do nothing."

00:09:42 Do you remember him at all as a child? Seeing him, playing with him?

00:09:47 I don't. Nothing.

00:09:48 There's one memory that sticks to me. It's a very vulnerable memory. I don't share this

00:09:52 with a lot of people, but I'll go ahead and share it with you. There's this one memory.

00:09:58 It's just so sad, honestly. My mom was in her broke-down Buick. We were riding down the highway.

00:10:04 She's calling. Oh my God. She's calling. She's like, "Where are you?" She was like, "You're

00:10:09 supposed to bring us clothes for school," or something. We stopped in the middle of the highway.

00:10:13 I remember stopping in the middle of the highway, and a car pulls up behind me. It's him. He's

00:10:17 coming out with a lousy bag from Sears. He's like, "Here's his school clothes." It was one outfit or

00:10:22 like a shirt and pants or something. She's like, "Say hi to your father." I was confused. I'm like,

00:10:27 "This is my father? This is how I'm meeting him?" That was the last memory I had of it.

00:10:31 It was so weird. We're on the highway, and he gets back in the car. He's just ...

00:10:34 Anyways, I don't want to talk about it. That was the only time I've ever seen my father in my whole

00:10:38 life. I'm 32 years old, turning 33 in 20 days. Yeah, it's ...

00:10:43 Which is 24, 25 years ago. Let me ask you, because this year, my father passed away. I'd gone on the

00:10:51 breakfast club a couple of days before he died. I was very vocal that I had closure with my dad.

00:10:56 My daddy issues were gone. They were like, "Well, he could die soon. You should make up." I was like,

00:11:01 "No." Then he died a couple of days later, and I didn't go to the funeral. I had closure.

00:11:04 Do you have closure from your dad, your relation with your dad? Do you have daddy issues?

00:11:09 We're on season five of Love & Hip Hop, season four, last season. He was actually on the season.

00:11:16 We were able to record me video chatting with him in prison. That was the first time I'd seen him

00:11:22 in so many years. It was more so a storyline-driven type of connection. I didn't really feel the need

00:11:31 still, and even now, to connect with him. However, I have people in my ear, like my cousin, Trina's

00:11:36 brother, Snoop, who was a glue to the family. People in my ear just say that have his best

00:11:42 interest, clearly, but connect with him. God forbid he dies in prison. It does get sad.

00:11:50 But you don't feel a need to have that connection, that father figure?

00:11:57 That's what I think also bothers me, the fact that I don't have that need.

00:12:00 It's like, "Why don't you have the need?" Clearly, because he wasn't in my life, but it's like,

00:12:06 I have forgiven him. I want to forgive him. I have forgiven him. It's just like,

00:12:12 I don't know.

00:12:14 I don't know. It's just such a deep comment. It's such a deep thing.

00:12:17 You were raised by your mom alone. What's your relationship with her now? How was that experience

00:12:23 watching her raise you as a single mother?

00:12:25 Now, as an adult and everything, and also just me being in my adulthood, knowing what it feels

00:12:31 like to pay bills, knowing what it feels like to take care of people, my hat's off to her. I want

00:12:36 to give her the world now. That's my whole concept in life now, just take care of her now. I'm proud

00:12:46 of her. Is she proud of you? She is. Even though, mom, growing up, she was like, "You need to go to

00:12:56 college. This fame shit ain't going to ... TV, what? Being on TV? You want to be on TV? You

00:13:00 want to ... " I was like, "Yes, I'm going to be ... The world needs to see my person. I want to be."

00:13:05 See, and part of why I want to take that and go all the way back to the beginning of when I first

00:13:11 saw Bobby in the club and have gotten to know Bobby, and let me be very clear, Bobby is a friend

00:13:15 of mine. Even the industry friends, isn't that Bobby's a friend of mine? We hang outside the

00:13:19 show. We hang outside of this show. We hang, hang, hang. We're going to get into all the fuckery

00:13:23 that he's gotten me into. You've always had this energy about you where you knew you had something

00:13:31 bigger coming, even from when I met you in the club. Does that come from growing up as a child

00:13:35 without having a lot and having this ambition and desire to get it all, or is it that you just saw

00:13:41 entertainment like I did as a kid and wanted to be in that world? What was it that gave you the

00:13:45 drive to pursue all the dreams you're pursuing now? All of that. Everything you just said.

00:13:49 Coming from nothing, having ambition to want more, wanting more, seeing others like, "Oh,

00:13:58 they're eating it up. Well, bitch, I got that in me too. Let me get on the right car for all that."

00:14:01 It was just a combination of all that. I think also, I do believe in destiny. I do believe that

00:14:07 we all have, not to get too deep, but once we're born, our path is already written, low key,

00:14:14 basically. I think that part of ambition is just a subconscious realization. It's something that we

00:14:23 subconsciously are realizing that we belong in a world that may not be this, but it may be this.

00:14:28 I think that's just part of us being in alignment and on our path. I think that, yeah, it was

00:14:36 definitely, I think that, and we spoke about this earlier before we got,

00:14:39 when you come from rock bottom, the only thing you can imagine is going up. You're not thinking,

00:14:47 "Okay, well now I'm here eating noodles. Now I want baked beans." No, bitch, it's like,

00:14:50 "Now I'm eating noodles. Bitch, I want steak and lobster." Especially when you're seeing it.

00:14:56 I was a big pop culture analyst. I was around for the Courtney Loves, the Paris Hiltons, when

00:15:03 Paris Hilton called Lazy Lo had a firecracker. I was there to then, media takeout before it was

00:15:09 shooting. I was always in, "This is an interesting world. I feel like I can survive it."

00:15:14 You had an affection for pop culture, celebrity culture.

00:15:17 Yeah, I did. I think that was just me just knowing that I would eventually be a part of it.

00:15:22 When you were growing up, because you and I are both gay, but we've had different gay

00:15:26 experiences. I don't believe I was born gay. I don't remember as a little kid being gay,

00:15:32 being attracted to guys. That came over time.

00:15:34 Oh, really?

00:15:35 You'd always been gay.

00:15:36 Yes.

00:15:37 And you knew you were gay. Were you a little boy?

00:15:39 I was a flaming little queer from age seven. I don't even know if I can say this, but I would

00:15:45 literally just, in school, I would just imagine, instead of, "You know what?" I would just-

00:15:49 No, this is the Jason Lees show. We say whatever the fuck we want.

00:15:53 I would just imagine myself kissing boys and stuff when I was seven.

00:15:56 Because that's what you were attracted to.

00:15:58 Yeah, I think I was born gay.

00:16:00 What has been your gay experience? Because I feel like I've had the privilege of flying under the

00:16:05 veil of being straight, because I navigate through spaces where mostly straight men,

00:16:10 my friends are mostly straight men.

00:16:12 You always tell me, sometimes we get even like, "You're being too gay for me, bitch." Even though

00:16:15 you love it, but you're just like, "Bitch, hello."

00:16:17 I live for it with Bobby. Let me tell you, Bobby makes me the most comfortable gay.

00:16:21 All my friends don't make ... Remember the time we were in Miami and we got in the Sprinter-

00:16:25 You posted a whole ... You said, "Train hunters." I said, "Oh, that was bold."

00:16:29 No, but I loved it because, first of all, it was actually really coded,

00:16:33 because you have to know what trade is.

00:16:35 Can you, for the audience watching, there's older women watching, like,

00:16:38 "What the fuck is a trade hunter?"

00:16:39 And men are also wondering, "What is trade?"

00:16:41 And there's trade watching. Can you explain what trade hunters is?

00:16:44 So a trade hunter is-

00:16:47 First, break down trade.

00:16:48 Trade is a man that may or may not be gay, that is willing to indulge in gay sexual experiences-

00:16:57 And they pass as straight.

00:16:58 ... solely that. They pass as straight, they live a straight heterosexual lifestyle,

00:17:02 but behind closed doors, sometimes with a little liquor flowing, not behind closed doors,

00:17:08 they're willing to just indulge in that-

00:17:10 The throat hugs.

00:17:12 Yes.

00:17:13 Throat hugs. And listen, some of your boyfriends watching with you right now, they're trade.

00:17:18 They are trade.

00:17:19 They're trade. Okay, so when I posted the picture of us from the Sprinter, "Trade hunters," did you

00:17:23 gag? Was that hilarious?

00:17:24 I gagged. That was a sign for me. It showed ... I was like, "Wow, Jason just opened up."

00:17:31 Because you're not like ... You are like ... Okay, I don't know if I'm going to ... But you are

00:17:35 like that. When we go out and have a good time, we know what we're out there looking for. But

00:17:41 your brand, your image, what you portray to the world isn't so out there like Kanye.

00:17:46 Well, let me say this-

00:17:47 Which I respect. It's okay.

00:17:48 But let me say this, because I'm not DL at all. Those of you that don't know,

00:17:51 that's far from some of your boyfriends. Download. That's not me.

00:17:54 I'm very ... I don't like leading with my sexuality, because then you get typecast,

00:17:58 in my opinion, of just being gay. And I feel like ... And we'll get into music,

00:18:03 because as you'll see in music, there's a lot of issues in there with ... Some folks don't like

00:18:08 hip hop, if you're gay or whatever. And that's evolving, partly because of you and Saucy and

00:18:13 other people. But when I came into Love & Hip Hop, I didn't want to lead with my sexuality.

00:18:18 That drink toss you talk about was because they were trying to out a relationship that

00:18:22 was private at the time. So that was more of fear.

00:18:24 Oh, I didn't even know that.

00:18:25 Yeah, that was more of like-

00:18:25 I didn't know the ...

00:18:27 The backstory.

00:18:27 Oh, I didn't know that.

00:18:28 That was more of fear. But for you, you came into the show very confidently, openly gay.

00:18:32 It's hard for me to hide it.

00:18:33 And did you understand at the time that you were showing up for people to see themselves on TV?

00:18:39 Yes. Yes. So the whole ... Yes. Yes. Part of what made them give me ... Bump me up and give me the

00:18:46 storyline was just like, "Okay, you're about to tell the story. You're about to represent for a

00:18:50 lot of people that are just like you, openly gay, unapologetically themselves, just true to

00:18:57 themselves." You know what I'm saying? There's a lot of people that ... It's hard for them to

00:19:02 hide being themselves. And it's like, "What do you mean hide being gay? I'm not trying to hide

00:19:09 being gay. Now you're saying hide being myself." So I think for me, it was an opportunity, but it

00:19:15 was also a pivotal moment for the world. And I do think that I am the reason why a lot of people

00:19:21 are able to ... A lot of gays are able to ... Even Lil Nas X and Salsy. I get it. Salsy, Lil Nas X are

00:19:29 signed to major labels, all that. But I feel like when it comes to the ordinance of things or the,

00:19:36 what's it called? The sequences of events or however you want to put it, I was-

00:19:40 The trajectory of men who are gay in hip hop.

00:19:43 Yeah. I was the first. I mean, it was Milan also. Hats off to him also. Milan, he came out

00:19:49 in Love & Hip Hop Hollywood. And then you, even though you weren't in music, but you were head

00:19:54 of media. And it's like, we started making, we started pioneering. I like to call us the

00:19:59 pioneers. We started pioneering these- And for black gay.

00:20:03 Yeah, for black.

00:20:04 And everybody was different. Because we're not a monolith. I'm no more or less gay than you.

00:20:11 I just express myself differently as we all do. But let me ask you this, because both of us,

00:20:15 I want to dispel a rumor, because Bobby and I are also both friends with Prince,

00:20:18 Chris, AKA Prince from Love & Hip Hop. You guys are really close friends. I've become,

00:20:23 I was friends with him before the show. But you guys had a rough first and second season. And a

00:20:29 lot of people thought that Prince was gay. Fucking.

00:20:32 Yeah. And thought you guys were together. First, let's start by clearing up the rumor and then

00:20:36 going backwards. You and Prince never fucked. And Prince is not-

00:20:38 Not even a kiss.

00:20:39 And Prince is not gay.

00:20:40 And Prince is not gay. I think you know that. Here's the thing about that. I think now I kind

00:20:46 of owe it to him. I've done it. I've already told him. I owe him a huge apology. It was me a lot of

00:20:51 times. We were back in obsession over our friendship. And it came off as if I was in love

00:20:58 with Prince. And now that I think about it, and I think I've said this at some point, I was like,

00:21:06 maybe I was falling in love with Prince or something like, you know what I'm saying? Because

00:21:10 here I am, someone who's never had a father figure. But now I have someone who is straight and

00:21:16 taller than me, manly figure in my life.

00:21:19 A protector, a friend.

00:21:20 A protector, a friend. Accepting me, loving me. And I'm like, I'm falling in love with this.

00:21:25 It wasn't in a sexual way though. It was just more like, yeah, I love you as a friend. I'm loving

00:21:32 you as a companion. And it was just this weird thing. I was young. Cameras are fun. Now we're

00:21:38 dealing with the world watching us. It was just a combination of things. And I think that I kind of,

00:21:43 I needed to know how to navigate through my feelings a little bit better. And I should have

00:21:49 been a better friend to him in retrospect as far as knowing, look, we're filming a show. Maybe I

00:21:54 shouldn't have done this. Maybe I shouldn't say these things. We live and we learn. We're here

00:21:58 now. But I will say this, Prince is not gay. He is, I will say this, metrosexual, yes. Feminine,

00:22:03 yes. Yes, his voice is high pitched, yes. But he's not gay.

00:22:07 And I'll say as somebody that's been able to convert better than the US dollar to euro,

00:22:13 I've tried many ways.

00:22:17 I've seen people try too.

00:22:18 Because I think Prince is an attractive man. But what I love about him is his comfort level with

00:22:23 the gays and the straights and the women, this and that.

00:22:25 No matter how many times.

00:22:26 And even when people would bash him, I mean, he took a bashing for being friendly to both of us.

00:22:31 And he didn't care. I mean, it affected him, but he kept moving.

00:22:34 Oh, it would affect him.

00:22:35 He became a little friend. Do you feel like people were just at a point where they weren't

00:22:39 able to really understand how an openly gay, flamboyant or not man could be friends with

00:22:46 a straight man and vice versa?

00:22:47 Yeah, that was five years ago, basically. That was a lot. So we keep progressing. I think every

00:22:51 five years you make a great significant amount of progression. Back then, or five years ago,

00:22:58 not saying it's too much. It's not like, "Yes, you better have a gay friend now."

00:23:02 It's not. I'm not saying he's not giving that now. But I'm saying then it was just very like,

00:23:06 but I also have a little non-vexing.

00:23:08 Yeah. But I also think when he came on the Jason Lee podcast and talked about his experience,

00:23:12 I don't think he knew what he wanted to get out of the reality show. Like you went in knowing what

00:23:16 you wanted. I went in knowing what I wanted. I wanted this. You knew you wanted music and what

00:23:21 you're doing with your brand. And I don't think he knew what he wanted to get out of it and just

00:23:25 followed it. Do you agree?

00:23:27 I agree. I never thought of it like that, but yes, I agree.

00:23:30 Okay. So you're in Love & Hip Hop. You become a star on the show.

00:23:34 You're filming with all these people. Who did you hate the most as you filmed that whole show?

00:23:39 Up to now or then?

00:23:42 The whole time you've been filming.

00:23:45 Who do I hate the most? I don't think I hated anyone. I think I was just annoyed.

00:23:51 Just annoyed. There's no one I hated.

00:23:56 So did you get out of Love & Hip Hop or are you getting out of Love & Hip Hop what you wanted?

00:24:01 I mean, I would say yes, because I can say that if it wasn't for Love & Hip Hop, I don't think I'd

00:24:09 be sitting on this couch. I don't think I'd be on House of Villains. I don't think I would have

00:24:13 my own dating show. So ultimately, Love & Hip Hop is what gave me my platform to show the world what

00:24:20 I'm working with. They did not make me and they cannot break me, but they did offer me and provide

00:24:29 me the pedestal that I needed. And for that, I will forever be grateful to Mona, Stephanie Gayle,

00:24:37 Viacom, everyone at VH1, and they even know this. I'm easy to work with.

00:24:42 So you do Love & Hip Hop. You show up on an episode of Wild 'N Out. I'm on the cast.

00:24:47 I don't know where we've told this before. We've told it many times, but Bobby and I broke the

00:24:53 internet by winning. We won a VMA. We won an award for it. We won an award for, I think,

00:24:59 being the first men to kiss on Wild 'N Out. The most wildest moment, was it?

00:25:04 It was the most wildest moment, but we ended up kissing.

00:25:06 Absolutely. Now, Bobby came on the show and I asked him how viral he wanted to go.

00:25:11 Now, I walk into the green room. Here we have all the cast members, all the comedians. First of all,

00:25:16 I didn't know they could smoke weed in the green room over there in New York.

00:25:18 Oh, yeah.

00:25:19 Smoking weed. I smoke weed. My type of party, honey. Come in. Everyone's drinking. I walk over

00:25:24 here. I see Jace over to the left. He has this huge ... By the way, this is the biggest bottle

00:25:30 of Hennessy I've ever seen.

00:25:30 That was the biggest bottle we could find.

00:25:32 It was the biggest bottle of Hennessy. Then, I was a Hennessy drinker. I walk in and he goes,

00:25:38 straight to me, he's like, "You want to go big or you want to go big, big on this episode?" I said,

00:25:44 "Let's go big, big." He says, "First, hold on." He gets the big ass bottle of Hennessy,

00:25:47 pours a shot. He's like, "Take a shot." I take the shot. I'm like, "Okay, what are you thinking?"

00:25:52 He tells me his idea and I'm like, "Let's do it." I don't know how many weeks later, but

00:25:58 we made history.

00:25:59 We did. We ended up kissing and going viral. What I would love about that moment was, one,

00:26:04 I think we did it for representation.

00:26:07 We did.

00:26:07 Because there are gay kids sitting at home watching Wild 'N Out-

00:26:10 What about us?

00:26:10 ... who never saw themselves. They saw that, but saw how everybody on the cast embraced us. It was

00:26:15 a huge moment. To be acknowledged about it, that's why I always give props to Nick Cannon

00:26:19 and Wild 'N Out because they-

00:26:20 Love Nick.

00:26:21 ... push inclusion. Did you have fun on that episode?

00:26:23 I did. That was one of the funnest shows I've ever filmed, aside from House of Limits.

00:26:27 Then, I remember you also went on The Breakfast Club and had a really good interview with

00:26:31 Charlamagne and them.

00:26:31 With Charlamagne. I broke a lot of barriers with that. We got over the whole ... First of all,

00:26:36 I think Charlamagne-

00:26:38 What?

00:26:38 Charlamagne needs to join.

00:26:40 Our community?

00:26:40 But isn't he married, though?

00:26:42 Charlamagne, no, he is not gay.

00:26:43 He's married. No.

00:26:43 He's married. He's not bisexual. He's gay adjacent. He plays around with us and jokes.

00:26:48 We need to stop playing because some people ... He's a Cancer, I'm a Scorpio.

00:26:52 Yeah.

00:26:52 I love Cancers.

00:26:53 So you guys are compatible.

00:26:54 We are. We're the luckiest ... Google this at home, guys. Luckiest match of the zodiac.

00:26:58 If Charlamagne could get a gay hall pass, would you fuck Charlamagne?

00:27:01 See, that's the thing. I'm not sure I would fuck him. I'd probably date him. He gives lover

00:27:04 boys. Some of you get a date.

00:27:05 He doesn't give you bathroom quickie.

00:27:08 Ever since he ... I don't know. I still don't ... I need to ask him this. I don't know if he

00:27:12 wears eyeliner or not, but if he wears eyeliner, no. That could never. I don't want my man wearing

00:27:19 makeup.

00:27:19 So you wouldn't date another man or have sex with another man that wears makeup?

00:27:22 No. Unless ... Damn, no.

00:27:28 Yeah, I wouldn't either. Because it's so about when y'all put on the makeup and then you lay

00:27:31 on the pillows and the whole face is still there.

00:27:33 You can't have NC-45 and then NC-37 on the fucking pillows.

00:27:37 What is that?

00:27:38 Oh, those are the shades. I'm sorry. Ladies, y'all know. That's why they're gagging.

00:27:42 They're gagging.

00:27:43 See, I don't even want a man that knows the shadows.

00:27:45 Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

00:27:47 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I don't need fucking two shades of concealer and two shades

00:27:50 of foundation on my pillow.

00:27:52 No, because it's too much makeup.

00:27:53 But you're good looking without makeup. Why do you wear makeup? What is your choice? Why

00:27:57 do you choose to wear makeup?

00:27:58 Okay, and this is the solid for real answer. So for me, whenever I'm working or I'm putting

00:28:05 on the Bobby Lights, I just want to create that ... The Bobby Lights, I just want to look-

00:28:10 A little zhoosh.

00:28:11 Yeah. I brought myself ... I felt the new ... I hate to keep talking, but you're going

00:28:16 to see, because literally this show bears all of me. I filmed so many scenes no makeup.

00:28:21 We're going through all of Bobby's ... We're going to get to House of Villains. He's on

00:28:24 the E! Network now. He went from the slums of Love & Hip Hop to the slums of Zeus Network

00:28:32 to the Upper Echelon.

00:28:33 Taking the Kardashian spot.

00:28:35 Well, all you got to do is take a back shot. It's not that hard. Let me say this. I'm not

00:28:43 going to shade the Zeus Network. Actually, Zeus Network, let's be very clear. I love

00:28:47 when it's for us, by us, and we're profiting off the stuff that we go through, because

00:28:50 Love & Hip Hop, they don't pay like Zeus pays.

00:28:52 No, Zeus changed my life.

00:28:53 And they don't give you the credit that you deserve as a creator. So let's transition

00:28:56 real quick into Zeus. Bobby and I both co-executive produced, and he starred in ...

00:29:01 No, we executive produced.

00:29:02 That's what I'm saying. Executive produced, and he starred in Bobby, I Love You Purr.

00:29:06 First, before that even happened, he did the conversation with Roland Ray. When he said,

00:29:13 "I roll around bitches like you," when he was rolling around in his wheelchair-

00:29:16 First of all, he ate me the fuck up, chewed me out, spit me back into the chair, put me

00:29:21 on his wheelchair, took me for a ride, put me back in the chair, and said, "What do

00:29:25 you got?" Roland Ray is iconic.

00:29:28 When you did the conversation, did you ... At first, it was because you guys had conflict,

00:29:31 but once you guys talked, you knew you liked him.

00:29:33 Yes.

00:29:34 Because he's likeable.

00:29:34 The moment he came out, I was like, "This is ... He's hilarious. He's a Virgo. We love

00:29:38 Virgos."

00:29:38 Now, when you saw Zeus did the trailer and his wheelchair was squeaking, did you ... Because

00:29:43 the wheelchair wasn't squeaking. Zeus is messy.

00:29:45 That was so hilarious. It was around Halloween, I remember. So they had this also spooky

00:29:50 theme. It was like the thunder, and it was very ... I was like ... Then the door creaking.

00:29:56 The door never creaked. But that's the thing I love about Zeus.

00:29:59 I think that conversation was the best.

00:30:02 It was.

00:30:02 Because it was entertaining.

00:30:03 It was the best conversation I've ever had.

00:30:04 But what I loved about what you've done so far, Zeus, is ... Because sometimes I think

00:30:07 the criticism that I give Lemuel all the time, privately, is that the combat for no reason

00:30:12 makes sense. The conversation you all had was not about you beating each other. It was

00:30:16 the shade. It was the ... But there was resolution. Then it went into a show where we were able

00:30:21 to see a gay man, an openly gay man, for the first time, be pursued by men who wanted to

00:30:28 date him. Bobby, I Love You, Per, we did that show. I remember being in the airport when

00:30:32 we were casting, and we were going through all the guys.

00:30:34 Oh my God, I remember. Yeah. I was at dinner. He was at the airport. We were literally all

00:30:38 on this big Zoom call going through, I think it was like 80 or 100 guys.

00:30:42 There was a lot of guys.

00:30:43 It was a lot. Yeah. But fun fact, so just really quick on the conversation, you know

00:30:49 it was supposed to be me and Kaya first. Did I tell you that?

00:30:51 Really? No.

00:30:51 Let me call him. He's like, "Hey, Bobby, want to see if you want to do a one-off special

00:30:57 just to see how you do with the network, and then from there we can discuss any future

00:31:00 endeavors?" I was like, "Yeah, we have a ..." He's like, "Conversation." I said, "Okay,

00:31:07 with who?" He's like, "Kaya." I'm like ... At first, no, I said, "Yeah." I'm like, "Let's

00:31:13 go." But then I started thinking, I'm like, "It can get very volatile. It can get very

00:31:17 dark."

00:31:17 Well, she's also very homophobic, in my opinion.

00:31:19 Not only that, but she's just like, "What am I going to say? I'm just going to curse

00:31:22 your ass out. I'm nothing else but nice to say to you."

00:31:24 Yeah.

00:31:24 Long story short, I called him back two minutes later because I had agreed, but I said, "Hold

00:31:32 on, let me ... Hold on, just hear me out." I said, "I have a good idea." I was like,

00:31:35 "So if you want it to be controversial, salacious, volatile, nasty, and just pure

00:31:41 evilness, go ahead. Just put me, sit down with Kaya. But I have a great idea. If you

00:31:46 want some viral moments, humor, conflict, and resolution, let's do Rolling Ray."

00:31:55 When I said that, he was like, "I love that idea." I'm like, "We've had conflict."

00:32:02 I mean, during that time, him and Saucy were going at it, so people were expecting him

00:32:06 to sit down with him. We had our issues also on social media, so I was like, "Let's do

00:32:11 him." Then he's like, "Well, you know what? Jason Lee can get me in contact with Rolling

00:32:15 Ray."

00:32:16 But it was ... No, yeah, because I ...

00:32:19 You brought Rolling Ray to him.

00:32:20 But what I love is I brought him to the network, but I love that you closed it because Ray

00:32:24 is a star in his own right.

00:32:26 Yeah, exactly. You brought him in, there was no use for him yet until I brought him up

00:32:30 for the conversation. That was the beginning of our collaboration with Bobby, I Love You,

00:32:35 Pern. It made sense. That's why when ... Let me, it was like, "Well, we have another executive

00:32:39 producer that I think we should have." I'm like, "Absolutely." He brought Rolling Ray

00:32:43 to the network. It just all made sense. It all came together.

00:32:46 But let me be very clear. I don't want to do reality TV unless it's mine, but I said

00:32:51 the only reality show on Zeus that I will show up in and participate in is Bobby's show

00:32:57 because I knew. I know you, I know Ray. That by itself, Rolling Ray and Bobby Lights-

00:33:03 So care.

00:33:04 ... is already like, it's just too much before we even start rolling. But when they said

00:33:08 they were going to bring 17 men in the house to fight for Bobby's love, I was like, "They're

00:33:13 going to actually fight, but they're going to fight for a reason. We're going to get

00:33:16 a cast-

00:33:16 Not give me bad boys where they're just fighting to beat shows who can fight the best.

00:33:20 Yeah, or no shade to the baddies or even ... What are you all fighting for? I don't get it.

00:33:26 But with your show, I was like, "If they're going to be fighting for Bobby's love and

00:33:30 when passion takes over, it's going to get heated and we know there's lots of liquor

00:33:33 and opportunity." So we casted the show in the first episode. I mean, the first, when

00:33:41 they got to the house-

00:33:42 They said it was your fault, though.

00:33:43 What?

00:33:43 You had the motherfuckers pumped from the beginning of time and that's why I love the

00:33:47 fact you were the exec. And then you're surprised, literally. I cannot talk about it enough.

00:33:53 Well, wait.

00:33:53 That was needed and if that didn't happen, I'm sorry. I'm not sure the show would have

00:33:58 been as entertaining and as good.

00:34:02 Well, let's first start talking about the cast. So when they casted the cast for Bobby,

00:34:07 I Love You, Purr, Bobby had his rationale for who he wanted to pick, who he didn't

00:34:12 want to pick. I did, too, and Ray did. But I really feel like we casted the best cast.

00:34:18 We did.

00:34:18 And what I also loved was you had two gay executive producers. You had a openly gay

00:34:25 man pursuing love with a house full of men. Some were questionably straight. Some were,

00:34:30 I mean-

00:34:31 Porn stars and only fans.

00:34:33 There was a lot going on in the house. But the first-

00:34:41 No, shout out to all my content creators. Honey, you guys helped me get my morning started

00:34:45 a lot of times. Honey, I love porn. Listen, I'm a Scorpio. I'm a freak. But if I have

00:34:51 to do it again, wish me may, we're not doing that again, Jason.

00:34:56 Wait, wait. But this is-

00:34:58 We got paid. A little quick-

00:34:59 Bobby was the star. He was EP, too, but he was the star. He made all the decisions or

00:35:04 whatever. But what I loved about being an active EP was, and shout out to Lemuel and-

00:35:08 You got to make a lot of decisions. Also, honey, you had a great input.

00:35:10 I got to be involved in the story and watch it. And I was behind the scenes being messy.

00:35:16 But you did your big one. I need it. And I need you. If we do a season two,

00:35:20 when we do a season two, I need you back again.

00:35:23 Of course. But you went into the show really looking for love.

00:35:26 Damn, like a fucking idiot.

00:35:28 But sometimes when you see these-

00:35:29 And they did me in. Oh my God. You know how they did me in.

00:35:32 No, but I-

00:35:33 I be crying right now.

00:35:35 I kind of blame you, though, because you went in-

00:35:37 Stop asking.

00:35:37 Really wanting to be in love.

00:35:40 And you know what? Now that I think about it, what did you tell- I don't even remember this.

00:35:43 What did you tell me in the beginning?

00:35:44 What?

00:35:44 You said, "Get your heart out of this shit and focus on making this show because you don't

00:35:49 know. Just stop. You're too- Because I already had picked the winner." Low key.

00:35:53 Wow, that's my type right there.

00:35:55 As we were doing the casting, Bobby, the entire time, from beginning to end-

00:36:00 You just stuck on one person?

00:36:00 No, not even that. From beginning to end, it was really about really falling in love

00:36:05 with somebody. You saw Island Boy, before he was Island Boy, and you said, "Oh my God."

00:36:11 You had all these reasons why you liked him, like really liked him. And then you had other

00:36:15 guys that you knew really liked you or that you thought were okay, and some we just kind

00:36:19 of threw in. What was the feminine boy's name?

00:36:21 Miss Mamas?

00:36:24 We just threw Miss Mamas in just to have an extra person.

00:36:26 To have a stunt double for me, because I was ready to bust a split in case I couldn't

00:36:31 bust a split.

00:36:32 No, but when you were doing the show, from the beginning to the end, you knew that you

00:36:35 were looking for somebody that you wanted to be with. And we were always fighting for

00:36:40 you to really be open to doing a show, not falling in love. Because I remember a long

00:36:46 time ago, it was Mona who told me, "If you really love somebody, don't bring that

00:36:50 relationship on reality TV, because the world gets invited in."

00:36:56 Wait, so she told you that? She ain't never told none of us that.

00:36:59 It was either her or Stephanie Gill, one of them.

00:37:00 Oh, I'm glad. What's crazy is I had to learn that. I wish I had someone to tell me that

00:37:06 earlier.

00:37:07 So you came in really, and then I threw a curveball by bringing in-

00:37:11 My ex, which was a shocker, but guess what? It felt so right, and it felt so real, and

00:37:15 it felt like that is what was needed for the show, period.

00:37:19 But is it fair to say, I would argue yes, that was a real reality show? We didn't sit

00:37:25 around and say, "Go do this, go do that."

00:37:27 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

00:37:29 no, no. And in fact, something I don't think I even told you this, the moment you actually

00:37:35 left, because he was like, "I'm only going to be here for a week. I'm not doing this.

00:37:40 I'll be here for a week." And I think you extended for a couple extra-

00:37:42 Two weeks, yeah.

00:37:43 Yeah, you were here for two weeks. And after that, he's like, "Okay, I'm out. I got to

00:37:46 get back to LA. I've done my part." But for the moment he left is when just ...

00:37:50 There were no more fights.

00:37:52 There were no more fights. I didn't want to say it like that. Fuck, there were no more

00:37:57 fights.

00:37:57 But when I was there-

00:37:58 And that is the key to deuce.

00:37:59 When I was there, there was a fight all day every day.

00:38:02 Yes.

00:38:02 Do you remember?

00:38:03 But we need ... So next time I'm going to tell everybody, "Listen, we need to make sure

00:38:09 Jason is secured. If he needs a mansion on the fucking water, whatever the fuck he needs,

00:38:13 a per diem of $1,000, whatever the fuck he needs, we need Jason comfortable for the whole

00:38:18 entire time of filming, honey." Because, huh.

00:38:21 So Bobby comes to me-

00:38:22 You made sure that he's in trouble.

00:38:24 Bobby comes to me and says, "Roland Ray needs to confront Hot Wheels." I said, "Bobby, we

00:38:29 cannot have two paraplegics or two people in a wheelchair confront each other. That

00:38:35 is going to get us in trouble with the handicap community." And Bobby said, "No."

00:38:38 I said, "It's inclusive."

00:38:38 Bobby said, "It's inclusive. We have to have him ..." And all I know is I turned my back

00:38:43 for one minute and he had spit on him. When you saw that happen, what did you ... Did

00:38:48 you know-

00:38:49 I thought it was just going to be ... I then knew, though, this was chaos. It was going

00:38:53 to be chaotic. But I knew that it was going to be good.

00:38:56 It was a lot. Okay.

00:39:00 By the way, I'm getting tipsy.

00:39:01 Well, keep drinking. So we're in the show. By the way, who was your favorite in the show?

00:39:07 Because I have a favorite.

00:39:09 So my favorite on the show ... I've had to pick one person?

00:39:12 Yes.

00:39:12 Are they cast? The guys?

00:39:13 Not even like you like as dating, but like who was your favorite?

00:39:16 Right, right. My favorite.

00:39:17 Don't say Demetri.

00:39:20 No. I did like him, though. He's my second favorite. My first favorite, I would say Hercules.

00:39:26 Hercules was ... He was likable.

00:39:28 The reason why I liked Hercules is because he was to himself. He had a regimen that I

00:39:34 witnessed every day. Literally, get up, gym. He wasn't bothered by the guys.

00:39:40 Call his girlfriend.

00:39:41 Yeah. If he did ... See, I never seen that.

00:39:43 I didn't either, but I heard.

00:39:44 And actually, next time, I would actually have everybody ... They have to take everyone's

00:39:50 phones, actually. Because that's how a lot of things got compromised. A lot of things got messy.

00:39:57 I'm telling you. They would take each other from the room, like, "Tomorrow when we get up."

00:40:02 Anyways, I just liked him, and he was just so manly. He was like the real definition of a man,

00:40:06 aside from Andre. I loved Andre, too. See, let me tell you a fun fact. Me and Andre fucked twice

00:40:11 while we were in the house.

00:40:12 I heard. I heard.

00:40:14 You had told me something, and he said it. Now it was a lie.

00:40:16 I heard you guys had sex the first day he got there.

00:40:19 It was the first night. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was.

00:40:24 How did that go down? Did he knock on your door?

00:40:26 He's so inappropriate. He just came up to my room and just bombarded himself in my room.

00:40:30 I was trying to tell him to get out, but he just didn't get out. One thing led to another.

00:40:35 What about Andre? He loves eating pussy. Pussy equals, by the way, in the gay world now,

00:40:42 we have this thing where we just feel so entitled, and we feel like guys, us guys,

00:40:46 we have pussies, too. Sorry, ladies. Listen.

00:40:48 Well, it's called a bussy.

00:40:49 Bussy. He just loves eating.

00:40:52 Put it like that. He started off there.

00:40:54 He started by eating your ass.

00:40:55 Yes.

00:40:56 I wasn't going to let ... I was stressed out that day.

00:40:59 But did he ask if you bathed first? Because I don't like eating ...

00:41:01 No, I took a shower. Oh, no. I was lotioned. I smell good. Oh, listen. My hygiene is always

00:41:05 up to par.

00:41:05 He knew you had already done that?

00:41:06 Yeah.

00:41:07 Okay. But did he care? Would he have cared anyway?

00:41:08 I don't even think he cared because he just started going down. I think he kind of did

00:41:12 the smell test and all that, and he went in.

00:41:14 So he started eating your ass, and then what happened?

00:41:17 After I said no about two times, that's it, he just ... I think he ... I didn't suck his dick.

00:41:26 Normally I would suck it and get hard. It was already hard. I'm telling you, he has this thing

00:41:31 where he likes to ... Sorry, this may be for Logo or a gay channel, so the gay section,

00:41:37 the gay segment. Anyways, he just likes to eat. He's just hungry for free. So anyways,

00:41:43 and that I guess got him hard, and then I think what happened? We just started fucking.

00:41:48 That day, first. Okay. So Bobby's in a house with 17 guys who are fighting.

00:41:54 Mind you, I did not know he was even going to be ... I got to oversee. So when you guys are

00:42:00 talking about like-

00:42:00 Well, who did that messy shit?

00:42:02 We're talking about you.

00:42:03 I got to oversee the entire cast. So in my head, I'm like, "Okay, I know what my cast is for this

00:42:09 show." Not once in my life did I ever imagine that Andre was going to be there. So the day before,

00:42:17 they start, I guess because they kind of know my temperament, they start kind of hinting,

00:42:21 like, "We have a surprise for you tomorrow." I'm like, "What?" They didn't give me more info.

00:42:27 You know Lemmy, he's not going to ... Then the next day, this is the day where the guys are

00:42:31 moving into the house, the day where I get to finally actually see them. I'm getting room,

00:42:37 I'm getting ready, and I'm restless because if you know, on Zeus time, we run a little ...

00:42:42 It's a little ... We run on Lemmy-o time.

00:42:44 Yeah, we run on Lemmy-o time.

00:42:44 And everyone else shows up.

00:42:46 Basically.

00:42:46 Lemmy-

00:42:47 Which could be hours later.

00:42:48 It's hours later. It's all you, Lemmy. No. So we run on Lemmy's time, and so I'm getting

00:42:55 restless. I'm like, "Okay, what?" And then comes in LJ. But what I love about Zeus is whenever it's

00:43:00 time to film, they make this big presidential ... It's like, "Showrunner comes, the executive

00:43:04 director's like, 'Okay, so we're ready to start.'" So now you feel like it's showtime. Now they're

00:43:08 coming to me, it's about an hour and a half out before they come. They're like, "So we had a

00:43:12 deliberation about this, and we kind of just know how you've been curious, and we just want to just

00:43:16 be a little bit more open. We do have a little special surprise for you. It is Jason's idea.

00:43:21 It is part of his-

00:43:22 Yeah, he threw me under the bus.

00:43:24 His contribution." And I'm like, "What?" Because now I'm like, "What?" And they're like,

00:43:29 "You're ... Oh, no, no. They didn't say your ex."

00:43:33 They didn't say your ex.

00:43:34 No, they said, "You may ... " I said, "Am I going to be mad?" And then you're like,

00:43:39 "We're here to let you know, you may or may not love this idea." So you know what I'm saying?

00:43:43 You may be good. So I just want to let you know, it's just another person that's being added to

00:43:48 the cast. So in my head, I'm like, "What?" And that's how they told me. They walk out. Now,

00:43:53 here's where it kind of gave me more time. So now, I don't know if you remember this moment.

00:44:00 We went, the moment now you're announcing, I got a surprise. You said your ex. And I'm like,

00:44:07 but then they're like, production's like, "Cut. Hold on, we got to do it." So now you said your

00:44:13 ex, but then he didn't come out yet. And now I'm back in the house, and now they're resetting us,

00:44:17 and we're getting ... And I'm like, so now I'm frantic. I'm walking back. I'm like, "My ex,

00:44:22 I've been thinking it's him. My real ex for many years, that I still haven't removed his fucking

00:44:26 name." I'm like, "I know that they did not just investigate and find this motherfucker."

00:44:31 And then I'm like, "Oh, my ex from Love & Hip Hop, season one?" I'm like, "Who is it?"

00:44:37 What's so ironic and crazy is, given that I was given a head start with that,

00:44:42 I never thought it would be Andre. Why? Well, one, because

00:44:47 it was such a quick relationship. But then again, in the same breath, it was so public. So I get now

00:44:55 why you chose him. But in my head, I'm like, when I started going to the people, I'm like,

00:45:01 "That motherfucker's way in Brazil right now." We called Andre in Brazil.

00:45:05 Oh, no. They flew him out from fucking Brazil. You guys got him from Brazil. You guys ended his

00:45:10 vacation, which I think he was tricking with a fucking guy or something. Or was he with Jeffree

00:45:15 Star then? No. I don't know.

00:45:16 Was he with racist-ass Jeffree Star then? I don't know what he was doing.

00:45:19 You don't like Jeffree? I don't know her. She blocked me for no reason.

00:45:23 It's always the bitter bitches blocking me when I don't even give a fuck about them. It's just

00:45:27 what I say in my mouth. They can't take my mouth. I said one comment, and I meant what I said. I

00:45:31 felt like she just basically preys on black men, racist, but will sit there and take black dick,

00:45:37 even though they won't allow black dick or black people at their table.

00:45:41 So that's what I said, and I still feel the same way. She got mad at that. Must have been the

00:45:46 truth. Anyways, never met her. Have you ever used her makeup products?

00:45:49 Why would I? She makes makeup for children. She makes makeup for people that just want to look

00:45:55 like clowns. Halloween makeup?

00:45:58 Yeah, Halloween makeup. Absolutely. Yeah, I stick to Fenty by Rihanna.

00:46:02 So Andre walks up, you gag.

00:46:07 Beyond gag. Actually, I was happy because I knew I was going to get fucked that night.

00:46:11 That's the truth. Hold on. That's the truth. That's the truth. I'm like, "Yes! Hope I get

00:46:17 some action." But you really liked Island Boy. Did that change at all?

00:46:20 Did it make it harder when he walked up?

00:46:25 Yes. Added to the competition. Now, I'm like, "Now the competition is stiff."

00:46:30 Now it's real.

00:46:30 Because I'm like, "There's one person right now that my eyes are on." I'm like, "Hercules

00:46:33 can get it too. Hercules is manly. I mean, Hercules is a man. No matter how gay he can be,

00:46:40 no matter how many collaborations he do, how much he wants to dibble and dabble, I feel like he just

00:46:45 still exudes this manly energy. It's his height, his body mass, his demeanor. He's a man.

00:46:53 So you go through the whole show. You really want Island Boy. My favorite was Ding Ling.

00:46:59 You did like Ding Ling.

00:47:00 Meaning I liked him as a person. I just thought he was funny. He was-

00:47:05 Well, I liked him for one good reason. He gave me weed every time. He was actually the weed man

00:47:10 for the whole cast.

00:47:10 He was the weed man.

00:47:11 Yeah, for everyone.

00:47:12 He was. And he actually beat somebody up in real life for you.

00:47:14 He did. And then he turns around and punches me in my face every night.

00:47:17 Can we talk about 3AM?

00:47:22 Oh. We went viral because I-

00:47:25 Laid me out. You laid me out.

00:47:27 You had been drinking. I had been drinking. Everybody had been drinking. I was trying to

00:47:32 host the reunion. I'm executive producer, host.

00:47:34 We Zeus.

00:47:35 And it was chaotic though.

00:47:37 It was chaotic.

00:47:37 The entire day was chaotic on set.

00:47:39 It was. It was a lot for us. We were all stressed out. I didn't take it no type of way when you

00:47:44 asked me was I drunk. The world wanted to make it such a thing.

00:47:48 Well, I looked over-

00:47:49 Don't trust him. He's not your friend. He's just-

00:47:52 Well, let me say this. First, let me apologize, Bobby, because I think what I learned,

00:47:59 a couple of things. One, I'll host a reunion. I won't host no more reunions on Zeus.

00:48:03 Because I just-

00:48:03 Really?

00:48:04 Yeah, because for me, there's just no structure. And there's no-

00:48:07 Well, you were co-hosting with Claudia.

00:48:08 Yeah, but there was no-

00:48:09 Even though it kind of seemed like you were the actual host.

00:48:10 There was no containment of anything. You know, at Love & Hip Hop, they'll pull you off,

00:48:15 pull you back on.

00:48:15 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:48:16 This was like all the animals were let out their cages, and then they just sat back and

00:48:20 just started eating peanuts. I couldn't handle it. It was just too chaotic. But I will say I

00:48:24 apologize because when I said, "Are you drunk?" That was me thinking I was just talking to my

00:48:29 friend. I didn't think they would put that in the show.

00:48:30 Right. I was trying to explain that to everyone. I'm like, "We're filming for over eight hours."

00:48:36 No, no. Not over eight hours. We showed up at five o'clock, and we left at three in the morning.

00:48:42 So, go figure.

00:48:43 We're filming for so much, and that you don't realize ... First of all, you're not even sure

00:48:50 what's being filmed. You don't know when they're ... So, I'm going to take it now that basically

00:48:54 everything is being filmed. And you definitely aren't thinking in those moments, "Are you drunk?"

00:48:59 It's like, you can't even tell. You know Jason, and I know Jason. It's like, you were just asked

00:49:03 like a moment like, "How'd I everything?" Like, "Are you drunk? Come on. We got to ..." He was

00:49:07 just ... And then they chose to keep that part. But either way it goes. To answer the question,

00:49:13 then, because I freaked out, and I was like, "Uh, bitch, yes. I was drunk."

00:49:17 That show, that reunion was hard to do.

00:49:21 Drunk as fuck.

00:49:22 I will say I forgot something too. Like, when you're in a production, anytime you have a mic

00:49:26 on or a camera's in the room, you have to assume you're being filmed. I had lost control, trying to

00:49:31 get control of a circus. But what I learned about me was, that's just not the environment that I

00:49:37 want to be in. Like, I don't ... Because unless I can really do what the ... You know, you're not

00:49:42 supposed ... The host's not supposed to do what the ... Anyway, it was an experience. Got another

00:49:45 EP credit. Shout out to Zeus for that. You and Ding-a-ling had a moment in the show, in the

00:49:50 reunion, where he punched you. Now, it almost hit me all the way. He did touch me, but he didn't

00:49:54 really connect, because that would have been a whole other case. But you know, it kind of ...

00:49:59 And I was like, "Oop." But he did. He did swing at me. And I just can't believe it. That's just

00:50:08 not supposed to happen to someone like me. While we were in the show, people in the show

00:50:13 were hooking up. People were hooking up with the handler. People were hooking up with each other.

00:50:16 And then after the show, after you picked Island Boy, him and Cash ended up hooking up and becoming

00:50:21 a couple for ... I don't know if it was for social media or in real life. And then they-

00:50:25 It was for a short amount of time, obviously.

00:50:27 And then they both were coming after you. Was that clout chasing? Was that-

00:50:30 Clout chasing. It was disrespectful. It was just totally uncalled for.

00:50:35 Lesson learned. It's part of what has me reluctant to even revisit during another season of that

00:50:43 show. I've been traumatized from it. Does it make you reluctant to look for love again on camera?

00:50:49 Yes.

00:50:50 Yes, absolutely. Yeah.

00:50:52 It's crazy.

00:50:53 How do you date as a public figure? Because I find myself making mistakes.

00:50:57 One night stands. Can't date no more now. People just are wanting something, unless it's genuine.

00:51:05 Or I love, and I know you love these moments, when I meet someone and they don't know who I am.

00:51:09 Have you ever had that?

00:51:10 Yeah, but they really know who you are. They act like they don't.

00:51:13 They do.

00:51:14 They know who you are.

00:51:15 At least, pretend that you don't know who I am.

00:51:18 Fuck.

00:51:18 I don't want you to ... The last thing I want to hear when I meet a guy

00:51:22 that I'm trying to date or pursue is anything about my career or my celebrity life.

00:51:27 Or your cousin or friends or anything like that.

00:51:29 Yeah, I don't want to hear you ... The biggest turnoff to me, it makes me cringe. We can have

00:51:34 the perfect date and you bring up ... I just want to ... That one time when you're, "Oh,

00:51:39 I don't want to hear about the one time with nothing." You're not supposed to know about

00:51:42 any of that. You just act like you're just meeting me as a regular person in real life. I miss that.

00:51:47 So you're down with one night stands?

00:51:50 Oh, doing one tonight here in LA.

00:51:52 How? Where are you finding it?

00:51:53 I'm manifesting it. I don't know. Hopefully.

00:51:55 Because you told me yesterday, Jack is right. Are you on the apps?

00:51:58 So, fun fact. I just got back on Jack about a year ago. It's fun.

00:52:02 No, it's not. How?

00:52:03 It is because they think ... Half the people think that it's not true. They're like,

00:52:07 "This is catfish, so it's fun." So it's like, "Uh." And then in my bio though, I put,

00:52:11 "If you want to find out if it's really me, I'll prove it if I like you first."

00:52:15 So it's a game.

00:52:17 Yeah, so now that makes them like, "Well, let me show them my picture. Let me show them." And if

00:52:19 he likes me, he's going to prove that it's him.

00:52:21 Have you met a guy on Jack that you brought to your house?

00:52:23 Oh, fun fact. Damn. As much as I've been here ... Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Probably-

00:52:29 You let him come to your house?

00:52:30 Wait. Three people. Yeah. Three times.

00:52:32 And then you fucked in your house?

00:52:34 Fuck him down in my house, honey. I do use the guest bedroom, but the point is,

00:52:40 it is a little risky, but I have guns in my house. And listen, I have this rule where I tell them,

00:52:45 I mean, just for me to be open, I always tell the guy, I'm like, "No weapons,

00:52:49 you come to my house."

00:52:50 No filming.

00:52:51 Oh, no. That's out. They know that. But no weapons. So I do this thing and if I feel that they,

00:52:58 based on the answer, they're going to be like, "What? I don't do weapons." Oh, God, no. Like,

00:53:01 depending on the answer. But if someone would be like, "Yeah, why not?" I'd be like, "Oh,

00:53:04 so you do have weapons, right?" So now when they get there, I check them right out the door with

00:53:09 my gun right here. Like, I'm just too paranoid. I do. Or I have it right here on the shoe rack

00:53:13 where they come in the door and I just check them. I'm like, "Sorry, I got to check." But

00:53:16 that's just my safety precaution. Because after that, if you decide to try to attack me or whatever,

00:53:19 I can fight you one-on-one. I can pull out my knife. I got guns. But if you have a gun in my

00:53:24 house, damn, this is so sad that this is the gay life of a...

00:53:28 I mean, Jeffrey Dahmer used to eat people.

00:53:31 Yeah. Listen. And not only that, listen, especially when they know who I am,

00:53:34 I don't know that they got to keep cash or that. I have a big safe.

00:53:37 And it's Miami-Dade. They robbing and killing out there. Shout out to Lil Hadie.

00:53:43 Yo.

00:53:43 Trina.

00:53:44 You hear him?

00:53:44 She loves Lil Hadie. That's the best Haitian food.

00:53:47 They don't play around out there, though.

00:53:48 They don't. But I have a pretty good spirit of discernment. And I do believe in vibe catching.

00:53:55 I do catch vibes. I don't just get a number and be like, "Come over." I do spend some time,

00:53:59 a couple of days at least, getting to know them. I like to talk to them. I like to hear their voice.

00:54:03 So you won't do a random hookup?

00:54:05 I do. I start Instagrams.

00:54:06 But will you do a straight hookup same day? Like, "Come over."

00:54:09 I've done it. I do it all the time. Those would be the best ones.

00:54:10 Do you let the one-night stands spend the night?

00:54:12 Until the sun comes up.

00:54:14 You'll go to sleep with them?

00:54:16 Yeah. I mean, they fall asleep before me. It's like, we're both so tired, drunk.

00:54:20 So fun fact. Chances are, if I'm doing a one-night stand, I'm drunk as fuck. Okay?

00:54:26 So is the other person. So all we're going to do is bang, bang, boogie,

00:54:30 boop, boop. And after that, ain't nobody getting up, putting on their clothes, ready to leave.

00:54:33 We're going to pass out. So I give them a benefit of the doubt, lay there and just go to sleep.

00:54:38 Do you prefer raw sex or condoms?

00:54:41 That's so bad that you're asking that because safe sex is great sex. Okay?

00:54:48 Use a condom. Protection is key, honey.

00:54:51 But?

00:54:53 I just hate the feeling of a condom. Raw is law.

00:54:58 Raw is law?

00:54:59 Raw is law. No, I'm kidding. No, I'm not. Yes, I am. I don't know the answer right now.

00:55:06 But I will say this.

00:55:07 Do whatever makes you feel comfortable.

00:55:10 Yeah, do whatever makes you feel comfortable and listen, live with the consequences of it also.

00:55:14 If you're leading a lifestyle where you just want to have sex raw all the time,

00:55:19 you got to know that you may be open to STDs, HIV, whatever the fuck the case.

00:55:25 And I say to everyone, do what's best for you, what works for you. Be safe in your own way.

00:55:32 You know what I'm saying? A lot of times, being safe doesn't necessarily mean wearing a condom

00:55:36 because both people can be totally clean and you know it because you've shared each other's

00:55:41 test results or whatever. But that person that is clean, like the night before,

00:55:47 they had sex with someone they had committed. So, hey, show up and now it's like, so it's just,

00:55:51 there's no telling.

00:55:52 Have you heard about this new thing called super gonorrhea?

00:55:54 Yeah, that's just too much.

00:55:57 Super gonorrhea, if you guys don't know, because see, I'm on PrEP, so you know I'm making sure.

00:56:02 Yes, shout out to everybody. I'm on PrEP too.

00:56:03 I'm blocking that thing. That thing.

00:56:05 Do you like PrEP though? I feel like there's ...

00:56:08 I've not had any issues with it.

00:56:10 Me either.

00:56:10 But I'm so involved with my health.

00:56:12 Do you feel like having, when you use PrEP, if you do have sex with someone that is HIV positive,

00:56:21 do you feel like it just makes it lie dormant in your system?

00:56:24 No. Well, they say it blocks it, but there's also doxycycline. There's this new medication

00:56:30 that you can take after, if you are exposed to somebody.

00:56:32 Oh yeah, yeah, 72 hours after.

00:56:34 Yeah, so there's things. I will say my own sexual health journey, and we've launched

00:56:38 Healthcare Unlocked here at Hollywood Unlocked, where we're trying to get people

00:56:41 really serious about their healthcare and preventative measures. You can protect yourself.

00:56:47 Yes.

00:56:47 Now, I want to just pivot. I wasn't going to bring this up, but Tasha K has tried to say,

00:56:52 "You and I have had HIV." Have you seen that?

00:56:55 Yeah, yeah. I actually was about to sue her, and I hit up Cardi about it.

00:57:00 I was going to sue her too.

00:57:01 Yeah, I hit up Cardi about it, and I asked her, because she was in the middle of ... I mean,

00:57:05 it's no secret. She had the lawsuit with her. I hit her up while they were in court,

00:57:10 and I felt comfortable enough to hit up Cardi and ask her this, because I see my name on the docket,

00:57:15 I mean, in the discovery for the court cases, because Armand Wiggins had posted it,

00:57:21 which I don't even know how he got that. You literally see Bobby Lights. It was part of the

00:57:27 evidence of how many people she's slandered and all that. That was a part of the court case.

00:57:32 I reached out one day, because it was literally like, she just, again, dirty blood, whatever.

00:57:39 I'm like, "Should I sue this bitch?" Because she's saying ... I got my test results right here,

00:57:42 and I would love to just put this ... But then I had to think. Also, Kaya said the same thing about

00:57:48 me. It's the number one thing that these bitter, and I'm going to go ahead and say it, these bitter,

00:57:54 angry black women do, and then they wonder why they're labeled as black. Because you are. You

00:57:59 go against black people. You tear us down. You tear your own people down. Newsflash, I'm black.

00:58:05 I don't know if people ... I'm tired of people thinking, because I'm like, "This is white man."

00:58:12 I'm not white. No offense to white, but there's not one white piece of gene or bone in my body.

00:58:18 My mother's Cuban. My father's black. I came from a minority set of parents, and I'm always

00:58:26 be proud of being black. Tasha K., for you to be so bitter and angry, to always just ... You don't

00:58:36 report on white people. You literally are tearing down black people every day on your YouTube

00:58:43 channel, which I'm sure is failing right now. God, girl. She's just a pathetic joke.

00:58:49 Anyways, it just gets tiring, and it gets cliched. It's almost like when you're getting

00:58:57 into an argument with one of these bitter women, you're just like, "Okay, go ahead. The HIV jokes

00:59:04 and the sick jokes are coming in five, four." There it goes. It's expected. Now-

00:59:10 But look, can I just interject something? Little known fact, you can stop this video and Google.

00:59:15 The biggest group of people affected by HIV are black women.

00:59:20 Damn. I didn't know that.

00:59:22 I don't think people are aware of that, and that's why I choose to use my platform a little

00:59:25 different. One, I don't do health reading. I think that's just disrespectful to people-

00:59:28 It's beyond. It's disgusting.

00:59:29 ... who are challenged with that. Also, because in the '80s, when the epidemic of AIDS was rising,

00:59:36 it did affect our community the most. Now, because a lot of you black women, or women in general,

00:59:40 are afraid to have conversations with your men who are trade or DL, they're then not being safe

00:59:45 or in a safe space to learn how to be safe sexually, and they're coming back and contracting

00:59:50 HIV or AIDS with you. I think for her, making it a thing, it's always a thing-

00:59:55 You think maybe allegedly she may be HIV positive, and then her husband, which is allegedly gay,

01:00:00 pass it on to her? Oh. Let's talk about the things and the things.

01:00:03 I don't know. Well, I think it's fair to say when somebody spews that kind of hate and brings it up

01:00:09 repeatedly, they have some internal fear of themselves. I don't know her sexual-

01:00:13 Got it. So, yeah, what I'm-

01:00:14 I don't know her sexual health journey.

01:00:16 Me either.

01:00:17 Honestly, do you even want to think of Tasha Kay having sex?

01:00:19 No. She looks like a female version of Boosie, Lil Boosie.

01:00:25 Stop it. No. We need a side-by-side here.

01:00:28 The messy reader right now.

01:00:32 But you know, the reason why I chose not to sue her is she has $4 million debt already to Cardi B.

01:00:37 Listen, I'm going to spend so much money going to court with this deadbeat bitch,

01:00:44 and then not get nothing out of it because bitch, you cannot afford to even pay Cardi.

01:00:49 So, what am I really suing you for at this point? That's the real reason.

01:00:52 Yeah. Well, I will say the next time she does-

01:00:54 Herbin pay Cardi, bitch, because she's coming for you, bitch. Cardi's not letting up.

01:00:58 Her money is long. Her lawyer is going to beat you into the ground. Bitch,

01:01:00 you better start making a payment plan or something.

01:01:02 Well, I will say-

01:01:04 She's walking around still talking shit.

01:01:05 I'm waiting for her to trip up because I'm going to take that channel. That's what I want.

01:01:08 I want that YouTube channel. When you find yourselves dealing with some reality stars

01:01:12 who think and act like they're bigger than Ariana, like Erykah Mena. What do you think of Erykah?

01:01:17 Because I know you recently kind of slammed "Love & Hip Hop" in an interview with Angelina,

01:01:20 where you were saying-

01:01:21 Why would they air that?

01:01:23 Why would they air that? But you know Erykah personally. I mean, in my opinion,

01:01:29 she's nuts.

01:01:30 Oh, Erykah's a fucking ... She can be irate.

01:01:34 Yeah.

01:01:34 Yeah. She's a Scorpio like me.

01:01:36 But when she called Spice a monkey-

01:01:39 It was inappropriate.

01:01:40 Did you believe it was racist or inappropriate?

01:01:43 See, that's the thing. I feel ... This is going to get a little deep, but I'll make it quick also.

01:01:51 I feel that there's ... I feel that being racist and being colorist is two different things,

01:01:58 although the average person or human being will label it as the same thing, right?

01:02:04 You'd be like, "You're colorist, you're racist."

01:02:06 I don't think that if you are a colorist, you are racist.

01:02:12 I also don't think that what she said was racially driven, but it came off as racially driven.

01:02:24 By how she delivered it?

01:02:26 Yes. By how she delivered it and by it coming from her.

01:02:32 If Yandy would have called Spice, "You blue monkey,"

01:02:38 shit would have went ... It would have just been ... It would have been noise on Twitter.

01:02:44 It would have been viral. But it would have never been ... So it just kind of comes down to it.

01:02:50 It's like, "Bitch, what she calling her a blue monkey because she's racist? Or what

01:02:54 she calling her a blue monkey because she thinks she's ugly as fuck?"

01:02:56 That's what it was for me. However, back to how I feel about the situation.

01:03:06 Should you have said that while you were filming, knowing you were filming a goddamn show? No,

01:03:09 of course not. Even if you know you're breaking the fourth wall, security's involved,

01:03:12 producers are not breaking it up, you know the camera's still on you, you're still mic'd.

01:03:15 Why say it? No, I don't think you should have said it. But then going back to VH1,

01:03:19 why would you guys air it?

01:03:20 But do you think she's racist? Do you think she's racist?

01:03:22 I don't think she's racist.

01:03:23 You don't?

01:03:24 No. I've spent enough time with her to know that she's not racist.

01:03:26 Could she be a colorist? Maybe she thinks she's better than people that are darker than her?

01:03:33 You think she deserved to be fired?

01:03:34 No.

01:03:35 Did you think that VH1-

01:03:39 I don't think she's fired. They never fired her. They said, "We will not be showing her

01:03:44 something, something." They never said they-

01:03:45 Do you think she should be fired?

01:03:47 No.

01:03:48 So you think she should come back?

01:03:49 I think she ... Maybe the break is nice.

01:03:50 Now, when Love & Hip Hop did that-

01:03:53 Well, then after this, but hold on. Just to answer that, I'm sorry.

01:03:54 I don't think she ... I mean, if I were her, I wouldn't even come back after this.

01:03:59 But I mean-

01:04:00 Now I'm going to pay ... To me, I would take it as a sign. Like, Erica, if I were you,

01:04:03 girl, I would just be like, "This is my time." Which I've been doing ... She's been doing Love

01:04:07 & Hip Hop for going on, what, 15 years or something? Girl, maybe this is her time to

01:04:10 just bow the fuck out and go on. Like, look at Jocelyn.

01:04:13 But isn't that partly because she doesn't really have talent to do anything else? I mean,

01:04:15 what else can she do? Right? I mean, you spend 13 years on a show, like-

01:04:20 That is your talent.

01:04:21 Now, let me ask you this. Do you think Love & Hip Hop and VH1 dragged it with the whole

01:04:26 special where they all sat around the tables talking?

01:04:28 That was so ... Yeah, no credit dragged it. But you know, I mean ... Do your big one, VH1.

01:04:35 Because I feel like with Love & Hip Hop, there's so much ... What people don't know is Love & Hip

01:04:39 Hop went through a whole transition with Black Lives Matter where they stopped really pursuing

01:04:43 fighting and all that, and it became more of conflict but not combat, right?

01:04:47 And then now it's like, is it back to conflict or combat?

01:04:51 You know what? To answer that, I gotta just be honest, I feel like Zeus has a lot of these

01:05:00 networks shook right now.

01:05:02 Because Zeus is eating them up.

01:05:03 They're eating up with the views. I mean, and although ... I'm not gonna say it.

01:05:07 Let Me has shown me the views, and now they have this thing, what is it called? The plus three?

01:05:13 Where it's like the premiere, the number, the premiere numbers plus then three days after or

01:05:17 something like that, and then they add the accounts. Zeus opening night for Baddies East

01:05:24 this past season was astronomical numbers. That networks can't even ... And this is a streaming

01:05:29 app.

01:05:29 It crashed the app.

01:05:30 And it crashed the app. And then another thing, you're able to share the app with three people.

01:05:39 I know two of my friends that are sharing apps right now. So it's not counting as ... You

01:05:46 know what I'm saying? Every person that's subscribed, at least subscribers, the views

01:05:49 is counting, but the subscribers aren't really amounting because people are sharing the passwords.

01:05:55 But do you think it's fair that Mona Scott Young got so much flack for Loving Hip Hop,

01:05:58 but Let Me doesn't get as much?

01:06:00 I mean, Charlamagne just said that. I feel that what it is, it's more so like, it's more

01:06:06 like a thing where it's like, Let Me's not ... He's not denying any of it. And he's just like,

01:06:13 "Look, you know what Zeus is already. If you want to come, nobody's forcing you to

01:06:17 sign this contract to be on the show. You know what Zeus is giving at this point.

01:06:21 You've seen what it gives. So it's up to you. You want to do it or you don't." I think that's

01:06:27 why he ... I don't know.

01:06:29 But do you think Mona-

01:06:30 See, Mona, it was more so like ... I think her intentions were different.

01:06:38 What do you think her intentions were?

01:06:39 I think her intentions was just to document these lives of people that are in hip hop.

01:06:42 And then as she started filming, the producers did what they had to do, and then the fight,

01:06:48 and then the conflict, and then that kind of started creating the aesthetic of Loving Hip

01:06:53 Hop. It was like, "Well, now we need to see the drinks thrown in every season. I'm waiting to

01:06:56 see the fights." And I think that she just was living in that. She's like, "Well, this is what

01:07:00 it is." She just kind of was going with the flow. And then I think that she couldn't take the

01:07:05 backlash. That's why she started backing away from ... She used to be the reunion host, the narrator.

01:07:10 Her name ...

01:07:11 The makeup artist.

01:07:13 Yeah. She went from all of that to finally just being ... And now she's not even in Loving Hip

01:07:18 Hop no more. Even though she owns a piece of it, we don't deal with her no more. She's not even

01:07:22 in the equation.

01:07:23 But do you think she was taking the hit because she's a black woman versus

01:07:26 Lemuel being a black man? Or is it because she's a black woman doing this type of content on a

01:07:32 white woman's network versus Lemuel owning the platform and being a black owner?

01:07:36 Yes.

01:07:36 What do you think?

01:07:37 Absolutely. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

01:07:42 Do you think Joslyn Hernandez deserves to be in jail?

01:07:44 In jail? Right now?

01:07:46 Yeah.

01:07:46 Of course, she's hilarious. No, she doesn't deserve to be in jail.

01:07:52 I think that Joslyn ... First of all, she's a Scorpio like me, so I like to always

01:07:56 defend my fellow Scorpios. But I will say this. I do feel like Joslyn needs a ...

01:08:01 I think she needs a break.

01:08:06 You think she needs an exorcism?

01:08:08 Exorcism. Exorcism probably would be nice. I need an exorcism. I do.

01:08:15 But when you saw the fight at the Floyd Mayweather fight with Joslyn-

01:08:19 I couldn't believe it.

01:08:19 Yeah.

01:08:20 I was there actually, but I didn't see the actual fight. I seen the video after.

01:08:24 But that was the beat that was long coming.

01:08:27 She, the girl, was talking a hell of shit. One thing about us Scorpios, we're ... I know at

01:08:35 least ... I can't speak for every Scorpio because I'm learning that Scorpios are different.

01:08:38 Every Scorpio. Like Drake, me and Drake had the same birthday. I think he's totally different

01:08:42 from me. Monica's a Scorpio. Joslyn's a Scorpio. Suki's a Scorpio. I feel like we all have these

01:08:47 different sides to us. But I will say this, after seeing that fight, I was just like, "You know what?

01:08:52 At the end of the day, all those security guards that are around for Zeus, they were afraid."

01:08:55 One of them was supposed to just grab her and be like, "Let's go." And they didn't do that.

01:09:01 They allowed her to continue to dig her grave. I hated that for her, honestly. It was just ...

01:09:11 It's too much.

01:09:12 Do you think it was too much cocaine? I mean, she's been open about her drug use.

01:09:16 She's been open about having a problem with cocaine, alleged problem with cocaine.

01:09:20 Well, from what I know, she did a show in New York prior to that, and that was her first time

01:09:30 doing free without cocaine. And from what I know, she stopped after that.

01:09:34 You don't think she was high in Miami that day during the fight?

01:09:38 I saw her before the fight happened. Now, I didn't pull out a thing and-

01:09:42 You were there in Miami?

01:09:43 Floyd Mayweather, my-

01:09:45 Oh yeah, I forgot. I forgot you were there. But why weren't you ...

01:09:47 I wasn't in the melee because I don't hang with animals like that. I don't do that. Are you crazy?

01:09:52 So you don't like Jocelyn?

01:09:54 No.

01:09:55 Oh, shit.

01:09:57 No, but she knows that. I mean, remember when we were filming?

01:09:59 Right. Right, right, right, right.

01:10:00 No, but she had called me up in a rage one day, telling me she was going to slap me. And then I

01:10:04 saw her doing our filming, and she tried to be friends. And it's that instability that gave me

01:10:08 the memories of my mom, where she used to be coked out, like, "I don't know who I'm dealing with."

01:10:13 But what I always know is that you can predict she's going to behave that way. So when I saw

01:10:16 her do it, I said, "She needs to be in jail."

01:10:19 So I will say this-

01:10:21 She created a melee. You saw it. You were there.

01:10:24 I mean, she literally was fighting seven police officers thereafter.

01:10:28 I will say this. I've hugged Atwood Jocelyn numerous times.

01:10:32 She's never displayed that side to me. I don't know what the reasoning. Maybe it just wasn't.

01:10:40 I've never seen that side. In fact, she's always been a person that offered me advice.

01:10:44 Even when I had my show, she was like, "Stay focused." She never showed me that side.

01:10:48 I would love to be the piece of glue for you guys to maybe see-

01:10:55 No.

01:10:56 No?

01:10:56 No, no.

01:10:57 Never?

01:10:57 No.

01:10:58 She actually, they called to have her on my show, and I said no.

01:11:00 Never?

01:11:00 No, no, no. Because when people show you who they are the first time, that for me is enough.

01:11:06 You got to take it at-

01:11:07 Yeah, yeah. There's nothing that we would need to talk about because there's no beef.

01:11:12 It's just like, because when I was friends with Jocelyn, I never saw that side of her either.

01:11:15 I never saw her coked out or acting crazy or whatever.

01:11:18 But I know people who do cocaine who don't act like that. That was a lot.

01:11:23 And I just feel like there's a time and place for everything. A Floyd Mayweather fight

01:11:26 is not the place for beating up every police officer and security guard.

01:11:30 Right. We have enough fighting in the ring.

01:11:32 Yeah. So do you think that, do you think, because I heard she's no longer on the Zeus

01:11:37 Network. Do you think she deserves to come back?

01:11:38 You're putting me in a sticky. Yeah. So here's a fun fact. Me and Jocelyn are actually cool.

01:11:46 We're supposed to be working on a song together. I will say this.

01:11:56 I will say this. How can I? Okay. So it's going to be tough her coming back when we have

01:12:04 Baddies and Natalie because Natalie is not too fond of, or she doesn't like her. I mean,

01:12:11 according to what I'm hearing, the rumors from what I'm hearing is that they, them two are at

01:12:16 odds with each other because of, they're trying to figure out who has the number one show on Zeus

01:12:21 right now. Who do you think has the number one show on Zeus?

01:12:24 Baddies. Baddies. Are you bad? Jocelyn's show is good. I watch it. Again, I love Jocelyn.

01:12:33 But if this was Survivor and you had to vote one off the island,

01:12:38 it's either Jocelyn or Natalie. Who's going home?

01:12:40 One has to go. You have to make the decision.

01:12:49 Well, okay, fine. I'll be fair enough to say this. Now I got to be real. I can't be too,

01:12:53 I ain't going to be too intimidating. Because Natalie is sitting at home right now

01:12:56 watching like, "Bitch, vote her off now." No, let me tell you the truth. I'm going to

01:13:00 go ahead and say this. Natalie has bought me gifts numerous times. And I'm talking about

01:13:08 expensive gifts. She just bought me a gift yesterday from my premiere for House of Villains.

01:13:14 Jocelyn hasn't got me no gifts. You know what I'm saying? I love her down, but so I'm going to have

01:13:19 to vote by my Scorpio sister. I love her. So all it took was a gift, Bobby?

01:13:26 I mean, no, I'm just saying like, you know, like if we're going to be friends,

01:13:28 I expect our friendship to be authentic and like me and Natalie spend time together consistent.

01:13:33 She supports me in different ways. You know what I'm saying? You know, it is what it is.

01:13:40 Have you ever done cocaine with Jocelyn?

01:13:44 Jason, you are nasty, vicious, catty, Jason. Wow.

01:13:53 I just, I mean, you've been open about it.

01:13:57 No, I haven't. Do I do cocaine?

01:14:01 Every now and then.

01:14:02 This is why I love Bobby. But I really feel like when you're honest

01:14:12 and transparent, you take everybody's power away.

01:14:14 Yeah, I was going to say, what you going to say, bitch?

01:14:16 You can't have no control. Have you ever done cocaine with Tommy?

01:14:19 Because you know, they're saying-

01:14:21 Tommy don't do cocaine.

01:14:21 But they said she's doing it.

01:14:22 When I seen that, when she got arrested for that, I was shocked.

01:14:26 She was really mad about that.

01:14:27 I had to call her about it. I was like, I said, were you holding someone's car?

01:14:31 Like she said, no, Bobby. She was like crying. She said, no, you don't get it.

01:14:35 He was mad because I called him a fuck nigga. He said, watch this. He go, I said, oh, I get it.

01:14:40 So basically in Miami or certain places, let me tell you a fun fact.

01:14:44 Police officers are allowed to give you charges that later on can be dropped or can be proven to

01:14:50 be wrong.

01:14:51 Prince went to jail twice for domestic violence and it was dropped later.

01:14:55 Yeah, they're allowed to do that. They're allowed to, because in the moment, it's not up to them.

01:14:58 It's up to the judge to determine whether that charge is valid.

01:15:01 But to them, they can take you to jail for that.

01:15:04 And it's up to ultimately, always the judge.

01:15:06 And when you're famous, once you're arrested, it's in the news and people believe-

01:15:08 He did that on purpose. He told her, he said, because I will say this, Tommy's mouth,

01:15:14 she's a Gemini, in her mouth, she can really, she can say some things out of her mouth that

01:15:17 will make you be like-

01:15:18 Let's be very clear. Tommy is a belligerent drunk. Do you remember the time you took me

01:15:21 in Miami and her to that Art Basel event? And we go outside and she starts punching

01:15:28 the windows of cars driving by. Do you remember that?

01:15:30 Yo, yes.

01:15:33 That was not with Wendy Williams though, with Broderick, me, you, Broderick, and Wendy

01:15:36 drove in a truck to 11.

01:15:38 Yeah, but do you remember, she was running up to cars just punching their windows and

01:15:42 we were sitting there and I ran and jumped in the car and left y'all.

01:15:44 You got, yo, she left us. You did.

01:15:47 Because it was too much. So, but when you look at that, because I feel like you, when

01:15:51 we go out, we have fun whether we get wasted, drunk, or if you, you know, a little bit of

01:15:56 whatever.

01:15:56 I really do that around you though, because I know that you're tolerant for that.

01:16:00 Bitch, Jason can, he, but Jason has a side of him, he's like, "Oh, don't call me, call

01:16:05 me, all that, all that." Like, you don't like all that raw, raw, raw.

01:16:08 No, no, no.

01:16:08 You don't.

01:16:09 But that's what I said, with you it's always fun raw. It's not violent raw. It's not,

01:16:13 like we-

01:16:14 We have the same mission, mission statement.

01:16:15 No, we do not have the same mission.

01:16:17 Trade, honey.

01:16:18 But you get evicted out of clubs. I don't get kicked out.

01:16:21 Very seldomly.

01:16:22 Last time we partied together, Bobby got kicked out the club and FaceTimed me and was like,

01:16:25 "Come outside, I come outside." He's in the car driving away. Because he got-

01:16:28 You took too, first of all, I was waiting forever.

01:16:31 No, because he found some dick on the street.

01:16:32 I did. Perfect one night stand. So recently you were at the VMAs. How was it meeting Taylor

01:16:39 Swift? Because the Swifties are a different type of animal.

01:16:42 Yes.

01:16:43 And you got literally the best selfie with, you didn't even take the picture with Taylor,

01:16:46 so she took a picture of you.

01:16:48 So, Lemmy took a video of this, and I never posted it, I always want to keep it secret,

01:16:52 but I do have the full encounter. So as I'm walking, I said, I told Lemmy, I'm like,

01:16:56 because we were in a break, and he kept mentioning, I'm like, "Watch this." I was like,

01:17:02 "Three glasses of Prosecco and honey." So I go and I walk up and I'm like, "I'm going to go say

01:17:07 hi to Taylor Swift, fuck this shit." So I walk up, I'm like, "This is a white Beyonce, bitch,

01:17:11 I'm going to go say hi to Taylor." So I walk up and as I'm walking to her, she says something

01:17:16 along the lines of like, "I know you," or, "Hey, I love you," or something like that.

01:17:20 And I was like, and you see all this in the video, you'll see it. And I'm like, "What?"

01:17:24 I'm like, "Well, anyways, I literally came to tell you how I love you and I just want to get

01:17:27 a selfie." She's like, "Let's do it, but let me do it. I want to listen." And she takes the phone

01:17:31 from me, takes a picture, she's just like, "20 pictures." I'm like, "Oh, this is what I'm talking

01:17:36 about." The white world is just so much sweeter and just loving. And in the black community,

01:17:44 I feel like we've dealt with so much oppression and just hate that we have our guards up.

01:17:50 It's not easy to go up to a black celebrity at her statue and receive the same. You've got to

01:17:56 have someone that's like with her, a team, a security, be like, "Hey, hey, hey." But like

01:17:59 with her, there was no one around to do that. It's just like she's been wrapped in this world

01:18:02 of love and acceptance. And she's just like, "I'm about to be amazed. Anybody who's coming up to me

01:18:06 is on my caliber." I don't know. It's just a different world. And I'm just realizing so much

01:18:13 about being in pop culture that I got to make change. I can't just be bought into this urban

01:18:19 side. The white world loves me too, honey. But you know what? Let me say the same thing

01:18:24 a different way. Because I've said on my word show, The Hollywood Unlocked Impact Awards,

01:18:28 I said on stage, "The culture is not nice to me at times as much as I do for it." And I really feel

01:18:34 like I am embraced in white spaces differently than I am in our space. But I do love the culture

01:18:41 so much that I would never abandon it. But what I will say is that you do get to a point where

01:18:46 you're like, "I need to evolve beyond where I'm at because there's other experiences to have."

01:18:50 And I will say that sometimes I feel like we'd be so quick to hate on each other that the self-hate

01:18:55 is real. So when you go to give somebody love, they're ready to attack you because they've been

01:18:59 attacked so much. You're like, "Damn, I'm trying to love you." Then you go have another experience,

01:19:03 you're like, "Ooh, it's euphoria." But isn't it crazy how she's such an icon but yet still so-

01:19:10 Grounded. Rihanna.

01:19:11 Rihanna, right?

01:19:12 Same shit. Literally. Literally.

01:19:14 So you took this selfie. Let me tell you about Bobby. So a couple years ago, a few years ago,

01:19:20 I went to the VMAs. I ain't gonna lie. They gave me some crazy seats. Bobby was ass out in the area

01:19:28 with all the celebrities. You were the only person-

01:19:30 My seats were up somewhere else though.

01:19:32 You were the only person from VH1, Loving Hip Hop, because me, Toya, we were all here.

01:19:37 You were over there. We were looking at you, walking around, and you had your little cocktail.

01:19:42 But that's when you were in the heart of stalking Lil Nas X and you were right up on them. Where do

01:19:46 you get the courage to not give a fuck? Because I would be too embarrassed or scared to do it.

01:19:51 No, let me tell you what gives me the courage. The theory and the concept of seat fillers.

01:19:55 There's this thing they do at award shows where they have people to seat fill. So in my mind,

01:19:59 I'm like, "You don't need so many ... I'll just take one of ... Move these bitches out the way.

01:20:04 Let me just sit here. Bitch, I'm Bobby Lice. I ain't no seat filler. So who would you rather

01:20:08 have? A seat filler? Or would you rather have Bobby Lice sitting here, filling up this seat?"

01:20:12 But how do you go from seat is over here to seat is right here with Taylor Swift?

01:20:17 Courage. Courage.

01:20:19 Do you just walk away with the confidence like ...

01:20:22 Because it's a form of liquid, sometimes in the form of a powdery substance.

01:20:27 And I will say this, it works just fine for me.

01:20:31 And then when you're walking and you see the security, because most times-

01:20:36 They know us.

01:20:37 They watch us. They're like, "He belongs there. It's Bobby Lice."

01:20:40 Because I'm going to tell you how I snuck backstage at the VMAs. I just walk like I'm

01:20:43 Jason Lee.

01:20:44 Exactly.

01:20:44 But I don't have that courage to walk up in them stands like that. Because I feel like ... Do you

01:20:48 know how they would gag if Jason Lee got kicked out of that section?

01:20:51 See, that's the thing. I think in that moment, I'm not thinking about getting kicked out. I'm

01:20:54 more so thinking, "Bitch, you cannot be caught dead in the seats that they gave you. Bitch, go."

01:21:00 And you walk with a sense of, "I belong here."

01:21:03 Yep, exactly. You have to have that on you. You got to have that. If you don't have that

01:21:07 confidence on you-

01:21:08 They can see it.

01:21:08 Yeah.

01:21:09 They'll be like, "No." They'll turn your way as soon as ... You got to walk literally not

01:21:12 even looking at ... I'm not looking at the ... There's no points that I have to ... No,

01:21:17 it's just straight to my seat.

01:21:18 And you have the confidence. But I'll go back all the way to begin this interview. When I

01:21:22 ran into you in Twist, you had that same thing. But isn't that the 50% of success that everybody

01:21:27 has to have? Because you can have the talent, but if you don't got that hustle and you don't

01:21:30 got that drive-

01:21:31 Yep, yep. I agree. I agree. I agree. Even you can have Frank Ocean, for example. He's

01:21:41 someone that barely has given us anything, but he's so big. So when he pops out, it's

01:21:46 like, "Oh my God, Frank Ocean." I feel like Frank Ocean could have been bigger than what

01:21:50 he is now if he had some personality-

01:21:51 If he would have kept going.

01:21:52 Yeah, if he kept going and personality. So I feel like it's a combination of all those

01:21:56 things. Yeah, you have to have the confidence, the courage. You have to have that determination.

01:22:01 So when you're at the VMAs, you saw there was a video that went viral,

01:22:05 Kenneth Petty-

01:22:06 Getting drunk, guys. By the way, I want to document the fact that I am getting drunk.

01:22:09 I don't want you guys to think I'm just this lunatic just saying anything out of his mouth,

01:22:12 which I am getting tipsy and drunk.

01:22:14 Keep drinking. So Kenneth Petty does a video. He threatens to kill Offset.

01:22:19 I've seen that.

01:22:20 It goes viral.

01:22:21 Disgusting.

01:22:21 But it started at the VMAs where you said, "Basically, I'm here."

01:22:24 Disgusting. I was at the same VMA. I'm just so glad I didn't run into any of them.

01:22:28 What did you think of it?

01:22:29 It was disgusting. I felt scared. I felt unsafe in this industry. The fact that this is going on,

01:22:36 it's like, "For what?" So confused.

01:22:41 And then I didn't even know, maybe because I missed it because it was on Neighborhood Talk,

01:22:45 that you and Nikki had exchanged words before.

01:22:47 Years ago. And she has me blocked down since it was-

01:22:49 Why? I know why I'm blocked.

01:22:52 Well, it started from just me having an opinion. I've learned that a woman like her doesn't like

01:22:58 people to have their opinions if it ain't what she agrees with.

01:23:00 Well, the opinion you said was. So Nikki jumped in the Neighborhood Talk comment, shout out to Kyle,

01:23:04 and she said, "Nikki said that whoever writes for a female artist thinks about

01:23:09 Nicki Minaj and evokes Nicki's energy when they're doing it. You jumped in the comments

01:23:13 and said, 'I don't.' And then she's added you and said, 'Here goes a bunch of clowns

01:23:20 putting on the big red shoes to come in the comment section talking about, 'I don't.' Man,

01:23:24 shut the fuck up. You a ghostwriter and I'm a Russian man from the future." And then she blocked

01:23:29 you. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. You see? She said all that. And all I said was, "I don't." It's like,

01:23:36 jumps out the window. I don't know her personally. Okay. So you know what? Before I get to

01:23:48 showing my distaste for her, can I just back it up to when I was a barb?

01:23:52 Yeah. You were a barb?

01:23:53 Yes.

01:23:54 Not like-

01:23:56 Year, way before I got on TV.

01:23:57 Not like the terrorism we see.

01:23:59 No, not like the militia now. I was like, put it like this. Nikki would be blessed to have me as a

01:24:05 barb right now to represent her in the light that she should be represented in. Right now she has

01:24:11 a whole, I don't know who the fuck is behind these barb pages, but it's a lot of divisive people,

01:24:16 a lot of instigation, a lot of just irate terrorism. I'd like to call them a militia.

01:24:23 Like cyber terrorism.

01:24:25 Absolutely. They've caused a lot of confusion and drama in my life when it comes to

01:24:32 my relationships with other people in the media. The barbs as we know them are ...

01:24:40 They're a handful.

01:24:42 But you were a barb.

01:24:43 I was a barb at one point before it evolved to what it is now.

01:24:46 Is it because you respected her pin?

01:24:48 Not only that, I just loved her music. I was in high school when she came out.

01:24:58 Fun fact, I can tell you so much shit. I watched Nikki's career start. She did the DVDs,

01:25:07 Zaz, all that with Fendi and all that back in New York. I didn't know much of that,

01:25:11 but when she came out with the Warning remix, she did. Even before Itty Bitty Piggy.

01:25:18 Around that time, I was there and I was aware of when she had a booking with Trina

01:25:25 around their birthday time and the promoters didn't want to pay her any money.

01:25:29 They were offering Trina $10,000. Nikki was like, "Well, I'm not going to do it."

01:25:35 Trina said, "No, don't do her like that. I'm going to split my money with her."

01:25:48 And Carter was like, "Don't worry. I'm going to make sure he pays you."

01:25:51 She split her booking with her so she can come and be a part.

01:25:55 And then that was that same year they had the Matchy Boussiers. That was Nikki's idea. She

01:25:59 had a stylist. She was like, "You guys should both wear Matchy Boussiers." And they did.

01:26:03 You can Google it right now. It's on freddio.com to this day. They had Matchy Boussiers for their

01:26:08 birthday in Atlanta. That was one example. I've witnessed when Trina literally

01:26:12 welcomed her with open arms. I was there when she did the verse for Diggaling on Trina's album.

01:26:20 And I think that what happens is, yes, Nikki, you evolve. You get all these numbers. You do

01:26:26 amazing. You surpass a lot of female rappers. We get it. But you have this sense of, "Fuck you.

01:26:32 I don't need you no more." And whether that's true or not, that's just not the way you move.

01:26:36 So what initially had me and Nikki, what made her block me, was when I was vocal about

01:26:42 the BAP's music video with her and Trina. I said something about, "You know, she should..." I don't

01:26:48 even fucking remember. But it was just something I said. Again, it was my opinion. She didn't like

01:26:52 it and I'm blocked. To this day, I'm blocked. No matter how you want to spit it, however you

01:26:58 want to put it, she blocked me. She feels some type of way. She still knows. And then it's like,

01:27:04 "You're not allowed to be a Cardi fan." You know what I'm saying? "You can't support Cardi."

01:27:07 So it's all these things that just drew me away from being a fan and I had no interest in being

01:27:15 a fan no longer. I would never, and I could never, no one, you, no one can discredit what she's done.

01:27:20 We get it. You've done what you've done. But there is such thing as character and morals and

01:27:30 integrity and things that happen behind the scenes that not the rest of the world get to see.

01:27:34 So you guys are left hanging, wondering, just on the outskirts, "Whoa, is this..."

01:27:39 You guys, sometimes you have to be in the industry to hear certain things and know what people do.

01:27:45 That's what I feel like you know a lot more than you've even spoken about. I know a lot more than

01:27:50 I will ever speak about. And it just makes you make these decisions where you're just like,

01:27:55 "I don't fuck with you. You don't fuck with me, I don't fuck with you."

01:27:59 I went on record to say in an interview that, or I think I said it online and then became a thing in

01:28:04 the news, where I said, "Female beef right now is bad for hip hop."

01:28:09 It's horrible.

01:28:10 Because like what you say in the story of Trina opened up to her and protected her,

01:28:13 I didn't know about that. When you see the way that women in hip hop have evolved and

01:28:18 supported each other. And Cardi, I've said, this is not about Nikki hate, Cardi love. This is real

01:28:23 fact. Cardi-

01:28:25 Friendship. Cardi's my friend. She showed me love.

01:28:27 But Cardi took the torch and handed it to other women. So that way they could all be doing what

01:28:32 they're doing. And I feel like the evolution of female rap, you saw Lil' Kim did her thing,

01:28:36 had her era. Then Nikki came and held it down for a long time by herself. And then Cardi came

01:28:40 and opened it up for all these girls now. And Cardi doesn't even ask for the props. She just

01:28:44 does the work. Do you believe that the way Nikki and her fans are acting is bad for hip hop? Or do

01:28:51 you think it's just par for the course? Let me tell you one thing right now.

01:28:54 It's been from the beginning of time, the Barbz. It's the fan base. It really, in fact, I believe

01:29:02 and I know within my heart, it's what I know or at least feel I believe. I believe that a lot of her

01:29:10 decision making, a lot of her tweets, a lot of the things that she does and says has been driven by

01:29:17 her fan base. She listens to them. She watches the tweets. She likes the tweets. She engages in the

01:29:26 nonsense. And gaslights. And she gaslights it and she stays there. And then she acts upon that.

01:29:33 And I feel like if it wasn't for this- But then how do the Barbz turn around and make us the

01:29:37 haters? That's the part that I don't understand. I, to this day, if we can, to this day in pop

01:29:44 culture, you can ask anyone. Everyone knows. You ask anybody secretly. They're not going to say it

01:29:48 on an interview like me right now in front of this chair, in a chair in front of the world.

01:29:52 But you can ask anyone. Which fan base right now in the industry, which fan base is deep,

01:29:58 which fan base is evil? I'm just saying. That's one question. They're going to say,

01:30:03 you'd be like, "Which fan base right now is crazy and should be put down?"

01:30:06 Put down like euthanized? Euthanized. You ask which fan base is the most loyal and most

01:30:14 magnificent and most uplifting fan base? The B-Hive. The B-Hive. Or the Navy. Or the Navy.

01:30:21 But when you're like, "Which fan base is going to beat your mother's ass in the streets like

01:30:26 they did Mariah's mother?" Inappropriate. Who did that? The Barbz years ago. You didn't hear

01:30:31 about that story? I remember when the mom got attacked, but that was the Barbz? Those were

01:30:35 the Barbz. It was all driven by the Barbz. Wait, so they might attack us too?

01:30:39 Baby, listen. I'm going to tell you like this. Anybody come up to me, there's consequences to

01:30:44 pay. Whether you get one up on me, whether you're threatening it or not, baby, best believe I'm not.

01:30:48 Huh. Strapped. All that. But we're laughing, but isn't it scary when you see what's going on with

01:30:54 them threatening to kill Offset publicly? It's gone too far and it's unnecessary.

01:31:01 It's just fucking rap and music. Why is it that Trina is able to welcome every female rapper that

01:31:09 comes into the fucking game with open arms? I don't even fucking about stats and all that

01:31:13 no more. We're just talking about legendary status. Trina's not walking around with a

01:31:19 fucking husband that's threatening to kill people and move in like a fucking gang.

01:31:25 She may not be able to fucking ... You know what I'm saying? First of all, listen,

01:31:30 because this is the thing. I feel like there's this unspoken thing where it's like, "Well,

01:31:35 girl, you're done. Lil' Kim, you're done. Trina, you're done." No, they're not done.

01:31:39 They have paved the way, and if it wasn't for those two, people would be able to talk about

01:31:42 their pussy the way they talk about it in hip hop to this day. Listen, I just posted and said that

01:31:46 Lil' Kim, Foxy Brown, the Trinas, they crawled so these girls could walk, so Nicki could walk.

01:31:51 Absolutely. Nicki walked so Cardi could run,

01:31:53 and now Cardi's passing the torch on it. But they can't take when they start ...

01:31:57 But why can't the women embrace each other the way men do and just say,

01:32:01 "We are all queens of hip hop." Queen Latifah.

01:32:04 I've been saying that from the beginning. I call all my favorite female rappers queens.

01:32:08 One time at Cardi's birthday in Las Vegas, two, three years ago, whatever it was,

01:32:13 the Raven, I did a video. I was like, "The queen of rap, Mike Cardi." Just say, "Happy birthday to

01:32:18 her." Oh, girl, it was just the block. You know what you're doing. Even she, on her face, she

01:32:25 could see she's not the ... It's like, why can't I call who I want to? Megan is the queen of rap.

01:32:30 Cardi's the queen of rap. Trina's the queen of rap. A lot of queen of rap. I feel like there

01:32:33 are multiple queens of raps. It's impossible for there to be one queen of rap. At one point,

01:32:40 though, there was only one queen of rap. That was Nicki Minaj. For God's sake, she won Best

01:32:46 Single Rapper how many times in a row at the BET Awards?

01:32:49 But let's go back because-

01:32:51 You can't be winning it every ... Okay, let's rotate it. Let's have fun. Let's see the talent

01:32:58 out there. That's all I'm saying. I don't know. There's just a lot to unpack when it comes to

01:33:01 Nicki. I know she don't give a fuck. She'd probably be like, "Who the fuck are you,

01:33:04 but you blocked me." I'm just like, literally, don't ever think about ... I don't look back on

01:33:11 that beef. I don't dwell on it. I'm here in an interview. I'm talking about it now,

01:33:14 but I don't have no ill wills towards her. The thing is, her fan base and her ... It can't be

01:33:20 just her over ... They're the one with the ill will. It's not ever anyone else. I don't think

01:33:25 it's me. I don't have an issue with the barbs or Nicki's music or her. I am a Cardi B stan that is-

01:33:34 Are you Bardi Gang?

01:33:35 I'm totally Bardi Gang. I'm actually one of the captains of Bardi Gang.

01:33:39 Really?

01:33:40 Yes.

01:33:40 Because here's the deal. I'm not Bardi Gang. I'm not-

01:33:43 I'm Bardi Gang.

01:33:44 Barb. I'm Hollywood Unlocked, the gag nation, shit, whatever.

01:33:47 I would love to be Barb and Bardi Gang, but I can't because the barbs hate me too.

01:33:51 But isn't it crazy that you can't just love and support Cardi without being paid by a label?

01:33:57 I really feel like Cardi's done such a great job of showing us all who come from reality TV that

01:34:03 the world is literally possible.

01:34:04 You can do it. Do you want a Grammy?

01:34:06 She won a Grammy. Can we give it up for Cardi B winning a Grammy?

01:34:12 Cardi was here on the show where I was telling her I was frustrated with her that she didn't

01:34:16 submit WAP for a Grammy because she was afraid to be acknowledged because she allowed the online

01:34:22 hate. As I'm sitting here looking at you wearing the Beyonce shirts, which we're going to pivot to

01:34:25 now, Beyonce, I used to be the biggest Beehive fan, fanatic for Beyonce. I realized over the

01:34:34 years until the Renaissance tour came around this album that's been such a blessing for our

01:34:38 community, acknowledgement of the gay community and all that.

01:34:40 It makes an impact.

01:34:42 And gift, right? I really found myself not acknowledging my love for Beyonce because of

01:34:48 how the Barbz ran with this narrative that Beyonce was running for me. It wasn't that I was mad at

01:34:52 Beyonce. It was just that I didn't want to talk about it because I didn't want to hear that.

01:34:55 But that's what they do.

01:34:57 And that's what they've caused. And this is all that.

01:35:01 But I'm back now to acknowledging the queen.

01:35:05 Yeah, this is my Michael Jackson.

01:35:08 And by saying the queen, that doesn't mean that Rihanna's not the queen. It doesn't mean that

01:35:14 Adele's not the queen. There's so many queens, right? But what I will say is Beyonce with the

01:35:19 Renaissance-

01:35:20 She's mother. She's transitioned from queen to mother.

01:35:23 So you went to the Renaissance tour and you've now-

01:35:25 Three times.

01:35:26 You've taken public credit for everybody wearing silver at all the shows.

01:35:29 Absolutely. Period. It may have been her. Listen, I set that shit off.

01:35:35 So Beyonce didn't do it. You did it.

01:35:36 I did.

01:35:37 Okay. Beyonce.

01:35:38 You know Beyonce sees everything too.

01:35:43 She sees everything. I know she does. This is Beyonce's internet.

01:35:46 What did you think about Beyonce adding T.S. Madison to Cozy?

01:35:51 Again, emotional moment. I love that. T.S. Madison's from Miami with us. She's from Florida.

01:36:00 And I love T.S. Madison. And it was so like just that it's like, yes. She's incorporating.

01:36:09 She's listening. She knows.

01:36:12 She's paying attention.

01:36:13 She's paying attention. And it was just so on point for Cozy. And I love that T.S. Madison said,

01:36:20 "Beige. Fluorescent beige. Bitch, I'm black."

01:36:24 She said all the shades because it's like, and I know you get this all the time. People

01:36:30 look at our skin tone. They're like, "Bitch, you ain't black, bitch. You white. You white, bitch.

01:36:33 I'm black." And that was just so needed.

01:36:40 What I love also about her, including T.S. Madison, she's been here on the show,

01:36:42 we talked about it, is that the trans community often feels invisible. So for Beyonce,

01:36:48 one of the biggest artists in the world, arguably the biggest artist right now.

01:36:52 To see you and acknowledge you, incorporate you into that. Man, she just put T.S. Madison in the

01:36:57 promo for the movie that's coming out for the renaissance.

01:36:59 Just the vocals.

01:37:00 I mean, without saying it, she's saying, "I see you and I see your community." So I just feel like

01:37:05 this is our era and our moment. But when you see that, doesn't that make you love her more?

01:37:09 Absolutely. Absolutely. I fell in love with her all over again, once again, when the renaissance

01:37:14 dropped. Every album she saves me, by the way, it's always like this point in my life where I

01:37:19 either feel like giving up, confused, lack of motivation, uninspired. And she drops the album

01:37:25 and I'm re-inspired, I'm motivated again. I feel saved. And what I mean by saved is like-

01:37:30 You did shrooms and went to Instagram and talked about that.

01:37:32 Yep, I talked about it. The video's still up.

01:37:34 And we're crying and just it was a whole moment.

01:37:36 The video's still up and I still stand by that. So I'm never going to take it down. I stand by

01:37:38 that. That's my exact sentiments when it comes to her. And I'm glad that I posted that video.

01:37:43 How did she save you?

01:37:44 She just made me... She gave me hope and that alone is a big savior for me.

01:37:54 When you feel like giving up, the one thing that can make you not want to give up is hope.

01:37:59 And she's given me hope and she gives me inspiration. She uplifts me. I see her.

01:38:06 I understand her. I want to work with her. I feel like she is... I just love Beyonce.

01:38:15 So did the renaissance tour inspire you? What did you think about it?

01:38:18 What? The renaissance tour?

01:38:20 No, I went three times too.

01:38:22 I went three times.

01:38:22 I went Atlanta, LA-

01:38:24 You went like seven times.

01:38:25 I went Atlanta, LA and even flew to Seattle.

01:38:27 I seen that. But that's what Trina wanted to do. She's like, "I want to do a random

01:38:31 where no one's going to be at."

01:38:31 But they fucked up the mute challenge.

01:38:33 Well, guess what? She said, "Hottie's there."

01:38:35 You have to go to somewhere with less people so she can notice you.

01:38:37 No, and I had to buy the right ticket because I bought

01:38:40 club renaissance tickets where I was in the mix. She didn't see me.

01:38:42 I did your seat but on the opposite side without the piano.

01:38:45 No, so I bought tickets on the opposite side without the piano. She never came over there.

01:38:50 She didn't.

01:38:50 So I said, "I'm going to buy those tickets over there." That's how I got it.

01:38:54 Side A.

01:38:54 But you know that that made me fall back in love with it being okay to love her publicly.

01:38:58 Yeah.

01:38:59 Like because like-

01:38:59 Oh no, I'm a fan.

01:39:00 Like I'm a Karmie Roopie fan. Yeah.

01:39:02 When she blew the kiss, I was like, "What can you say?"

01:39:04 That was iconic. And now she's like, "I love you."

01:39:06 Yeah. But when you saw the show, did you leave inspired?

01:39:09 Absolutely. Inspired. Well, unfortunately, I fell victim to watching the clips on TikTok

01:39:17 and YouTube of the previous shows. I couldn't resist. I said, "I'm going to wait." But I kept

01:39:22 seeing so many. I'm like, so then I found myself one day literally watching the whole show from

01:39:26 like Paris. I'm like, I'm on YouTube. Someone uploaded the whole-

01:39:29 The whole tour.

01:39:30 The whole tour.

01:39:31 I hated that. I didn't like that.

01:39:33 Yeah, me either. But I just, I love her so much that I'm like, "I don't care. I'll watch it a

01:39:36 million times. I just want to." So I'm like, "I can't wait till August since you get to Miami.

01:39:40 I want to see it." So I seen it. And for the moment I seen it, I was like,

01:39:44 first of all, is Beyoncé even real? Is she real?

01:39:50 She's real.

01:39:50 She is? Okay.

01:39:51 But I will say that, this is what I will say. Beyoncé, see this is why-

01:39:57 I love that we're talking about Beyoncé.

01:39:59 This is why when they compare Beyoncé and Rihanna, they're two different people.

01:40:02 Yeah, they are.

01:40:03 They're both iconic equally to me.

01:40:05 Absolutely.

01:40:06 But Rihanna's relatable and you're connected to her. Beyoncé is a mythical creature.

01:40:10 It's mysterious.

01:40:11 We don't know anything.

01:40:12 That's like, is she real? We don't know anything.

01:40:13 I slammed Beyoncé on Twitter for not releasing visuals for Cozy because I'm like, "How dare you

01:40:19 do a whole album for the gay community? We're invisible and this is the one time you don't do

01:40:24 visuals?" I mean, we're reading her. This bitch said, "Be careful what you ask for."

01:40:27 Because I might comply.

01:40:28 She drops the movie. I'm like, "You're fucking perfect."

01:40:30 But that's not even the visuals. I found out some tea.

01:40:34 Gay, American, it's not.

01:40:36 So I found out that all the visuals are done and they're going to drop it.

01:40:42 So it's not with the movie. It's a whole other thing.

01:40:45 I heard T.S. Madison was in them too.

01:40:48 Huh?

01:40:48 T.S. Madison.

01:40:49 Oh, probably. Probably. Probably.

01:40:51 But here's the deal.

01:40:52 The Indians on that project are so-

01:40:54 My point is she drops the movie trailer letting us know, "Well, you thought I skipped a beat."

01:40:59 Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Y'all keep up, right?

01:41:02 She's so good.

01:41:02 But that's what I think makes her iconic, that she's so much an artist, right? When she came

01:41:07 out the ground singing Dangerously In Love, didn't you just fall out?

01:41:10 First of all, when she says the city you're in, she comes out before she's like-

01:41:14 Miami.

01:41:14 Miami, Florida.

01:41:15 I love you.

01:41:17 It's almost like-

01:41:18 That deep Southern Houston accent.

01:41:20 She doesn't have that voice where she's like, "I'm God."

01:41:22 And then there's smoke and I'm still coming out the ground.

01:41:26 And by the way, let's not forget that you guys all fucking sold your arm, leg, rent,

01:41:32 couches-

01:41:32 Some dick.

01:41:33 And dick and a piece of pussy and everything more to be here today.

01:41:36 So for me to attend her show alone, me, my ticket was $5,000 for me.

01:41:41 Then just securing the Sprinter, having the photographer to get the content, the outfit,

01:41:48 the amount of money I spent at the merch table.

01:41:51 Because I was like, "I'm going to..."

01:41:52 Because when you do that, you get early line-

01:41:54 Did you buy that shirt?

01:41:55 I did. This is one of the shirts. I bought everything. I bought all the sweatsuits. I

01:41:59 bought everything. First of all, I spent $2,300 at the merch table.

01:42:03 But what I love-

01:42:03 $2,300.

01:42:04 I'm like, "A shirt for my friend, a shirt for this." Because they couldn't make it.

01:42:08 Two hats for the- I bought so much shit.

01:42:09 But I love how into it you were because not only were you preparing everybody,

01:42:13 you threatened all of Miami.

01:42:14 If y'all fuck up the Mute Challenge, I'm fucking all y'all up.

01:42:16 And I'm pressing charges and I have an ordinance against you guys.

01:42:20 But you did the whole outfit down to the T. You did a whole photo shoot. People were dragging you

01:42:24 when we posted you in the outfit, but I'm like, "He actually heard the assignment and he did it,

01:42:28 and you did it perfection."

01:42:29 And she never asked me, she never mentioned anything about silver. I just knew I was going

01:42:33 to wear chrome and silver. And it was so ironic because three days after I go viral,

01:42:38 literally you can look at three days after all the blogs posted me, she makes this post,

01:42:44 which I would like to think that I inspired this.

01:42:47 I won't say that she wasn't ever thinking about it, but I would like to think that I inspired

01:42:50 this because it was just too ironic for me. And she was so specific.

01:42:55 And so now the whole fashion industry that's now on a shortage of silver should actually

01:43:00 thank you and pay you.

01:43:02 Give me my coins. Give me my money. I'm kidding. When the queen speaks,

01:43:07 everything else that came before it is erased. I don't give a fuck.

01:43:12 Beyonce can steal my whole entire identity. I won't give a fuck. I'm like, "Take it."

01:43:15 Now, what do you think about Joslyn Shade in your outfit?

01:43:18 Well, my response still stands. She was like, "You did too much." I'm like, "You didn't do enough."

01:43:23 It is what it is. I think she was just trying to be funny.

01:43:26 Do you think she was high?

01:43:28 I know I was high. No, I'm kidding. No, I don't know.

01:43:35 Well, anyway, you ran into Mother's Mother, Tina Knowles.

01:43:39 Yes, I did.

01:43:40 And Yahoo shaded the fuck out of you. Yahoo said, "Fans say Tina Knowles looks scared after being

01:43:45 ambushed by reality star at Beyonce's concert."

01:43:47 They said that for real?

01:43:47 You didn't see that?

01:43:48 I didn't see that.

01:43:49 That was a headline. They said you scared ... I mean, clearly she was participating in the video.

01:43:54 I didn't see that. Yahoo made ...

01:43:56 Yahoo. That's like usually 58 million people that see something like that.

01:44:00 Yahoo? Wow.

01:44:02 The shade of it all.

01:44:04 How to interview guys with you guys next week, canceled.

01:44:07 No, don't know. Just read them for filth in the interview. You go do the interview.

01:44:12 Who's the head of ... I need to get ... Who's the head of Yahoo?

01:44:14 So, yeah. People were like ... First of all, you rapped and said, "And my mama was a savage

01:44:21 nigga. I got this shit from Tina." And Tina was ... I just feel like that's iconic.

01:44:24 But they stole the moment from me.

01:44:25 That's iconic. Who did Tina?

01:44:27 The other people ... So, people were there and it was like a universal thought. Everyone was like,

01:44:33 plotting ... Because she was sitting there the whole time. By the way, she was sitting right

01:44:36 there with us the whole time. Unbothered. No one was going after her. I never went after her. But

01:44:40 in my head I said, "When she performs savage, I'm going to get a video and I'm going to point,

01:44:45 got that shit from Tina. I'm a savage." And right when I go to do it, because I was ready,

01:44:50 someone else beat me to it. They were all on it. They were like, "We're doing it."

01:44:54 You hear me in the video say, though, "They stole my moment. They stole my moment." You hear me

01:44:59 say that in the video. Did you talk to Tina?

01:45:03 I did.

01:45:03 What'd you say?

01:45:04 Aside from ... I let her know because Solange, her and Beyonce love Trina. Solange and Mama

01:45:11 Knows follows Trina. About two, three years ago Solange licensed some footage from Trina to add

01:45:17 her to one of her music videos. I don't know if you've seen that. They're a fan of Trina.

01:45:24 So I used that as my gateway. I was like, "Hey, it's me. I'm Trina's cousin."

01:45:32 She goes, "I'm sorry." I love her because she's just so straightforward. She's like,

01:45:37 "I'm sorry, what's your name?" I'm like, "Bobby Lights." She kind of gave a smirk,

01:45:42 almost like she may have heard of the name or not. But she was like, "Oh." It was just all love.

01:45:47 She's a nice person, though.

01:45:47 She's so sweet. Yeah, she's so sweet.

01:45:49 But what I love about you, again, and this is what I want to say to people watching,

01:45:54 when you don't take moments, those are moments that may never come back. I will tell you

01:45:59 something. I have no problem looking however you think I look because guess what? You're not even

01:46:05 in the room to take a moment like it. I'm going to tell you a conversation I had with T.S. Madison

01:46:10 privately. I'm going to share this right here because you know as well as I do. The other day

01:46:13 when T.S. Madison got into it with Tasha K, I called her. I said, "Beyonce spoke your name,

01:46:18 gave you flowers, put you on a song. You're in the Grammys because of that,

01:46:24 and she just put you in the promo trailer. If you ever speak Tasha K's name again,

01:46:28 you're not worthy of it." Tasha.

01:46:30 You're not worthy of it. She said, "I got it." Because God gives those people that he wants to

01:46:36 see flourish opportunities that nobody else can get. So why fuck that up? Why? That was a moment

01:46:44 where I had to take my own advice. There's people that have hated on me that I will never mention,

01:46:47 and you know we've had that conversation because you're not blessed the way that I am because

01:46:52 you're putting out negative energy. So I will say what I love about you that I hope you never

01:46:57 ever stop is just taking those chances, getting those Taylor Swift moments. I was looking at your

01:47:01 VMA slides and I was like, "I should have gone to the VMAs," because I just love how you go for it,

01:47:08 including Lil Nas X. Would you still let him fuck?

01:47:10 Yeah, why not? Fuck it. I don't let worse people come out back. He's a millionaire now.

01:47:16 He's cute. He's taller than me. Lil Nas X-

01:47:18 And his body. He got a little-

01:47:19 He done worked on his body.

01:47:21 Yeah. Matter of fact, I'll even top Lil Nas X. I'm not even going to top, but I'll top him.

01:47:25 You would fuck Lil Nas X?

01:47:26 I mean, that's what he- Yeah. I mean, yeah, shit.

01:47:29 Well, you said that you want to be married by the time you're 40. How old are you now?

01:47:32 Turned 33, and I don't want to put a time stamp on this, but I'm 32 right now.

01:47:38 Okay, so Lil Nas-

01:47:40 I'm 33 right now.

01:47:40 Lil Nas X has a little time to get together. Okay, I got you a gift that will maybe-

01:47:45 Yeah, it's right here.

01:47:46 Like the rest of the guests?

01:47:48 Yes. You have a gift right there in the bag.

01:47:50 Oh, this one right here?

01:47:50 Yes.

01:47:51 Bottom bag.

01:47:54 Listen, let's give a round of applause to the bottoms.

01:47:58 Finally, someone who acknowledges and accepts me for being a full out bottom.

01:48:05 Which one do I open first?

01:48:06 Yes, just take the top off.

01:48:08 This?

01:48:08 Literally the top.

01:48:09 I want to keep this. This is so cute.

01:48:11 Okay, well-

01:48:11 The branding?

01:48:11 That's the top. We'll put the top on the side.

01:48:13 Okay.

01:48:14 Okay.

01:48:14 Master series.

01:48:17 Okay.

01:48:17 [gasps]

01:48:19 Turn it around.

01:48:22 This is-

01:48:23 Look at the back.

01:48:24 Every-

01:48:25 Wait.

01:48:27 Yes.

01:48:29 Wait.

01:48:30 You think I'm not going to use this?

01:48:34 Okay, wait. Read it what it is.

01:48:36 Extreme humbler.

01:48:38 Oh, yes.

01:48:39 Humble me.

01:48:40 Black wooden humbler with ankle restraints.

01:48:43 Hole for scrotum.

01:48:46 Adjustable ankle restraints and locking buckles.

01:48:49 Yes.

01:48:51 Would you use that?

01:48:51 Are you crazy? I'm putting it to use immediately.

01:48:56 I'm one of those bottoms that have low hanging balls.

01:49:00 Oh, wait. No.

01:49:01 This is why Marina-

01:49:04 Oh, my God.

01:49:04 This is why Marina got you the gift because your balls fell out at the fashion show.

01:49:09 Yes. That's what I'm saying.

01:49:10 I'm not a small dick bottom.

01:49:13 Let's put that out there.

01:49:16 I will say this.

01:49:16 I'm actually- I can't wait to use this, actually.

01:49:19 Let me see.

01:49:21 To give you some ball support.

01:49:22 Yes.

01:49:23 Can I explain what that does?

01:49:26 Yes. Explain that.

01:49:27 That's putting-

01:49:28 How do you find- What?

01:49:32 Shout out to Andrew. Y'all bottoms be finding all types of stuff.

01:49:36 Yes.

01:49:37 Andrew, you little naughty girl.

01:49:38 Explain what it's doing for the balls.

01:49:42 Basically, it's just putting pressure so that- It's just a freaky thing.

01:49:47 It's kind of like when you're fucking your top, you're like, "I play with my nipples."

01:49:50 Something's like-

01:49:51 Well, we got some more things.

01:49:52 Go in the bottom bag.

01:49:53 There's more gifts.

01:49:54 This is the gift that keeps on-

01:49:55 That's all I needed right there.

01:49:56 It's the gifts that keep on giving.

01:49:57 Yes.

01:49:57 Hopefully, when you get on the Jacked app, you can find somebody that can help you out with all this.

01:50:02 Well, first of all, I'm going to actually wear this tonight to the premiere.

01:50:05 This is perfect for my outfit.

01:50:06 It's skimpy.

01:50:07 I needed something.

01:50:07 I didn't bring a thong with me.

01:50:08 This is cute.

01:50:10 Wait.

01:50:11 Hold on.

01:50:11 Let me see.

01:50:11 That's to hold the balls in place.

01:50:12 Yeah.

01:50:12 So, this is going to help you hold your balls in place so they don't fall out.

01:50:20 So, I'm going to hold onto her.

01:50:21 Oh, this is going to be great.

01:50:29 I almost want to try her on now.

01:50:31 No, no, no, no, no.

01:50:34 Okay.

01:50:34 There's more in the bottom bag.

01:50:36 Okay.

01:50:36 I love the bottom bag.

01:50:40 This is actually the first bottom bag we've ever given.

01:50:42 Should have had another one of your guests on here.

01:50:45 There's a guy.

01:50:45 Oh.

01:50:49 Metal handcuffs.

01:50:52 I've always wanted, even though these are kind of like,

01:50:55 although they're not for the ankles.

01:50:56 Oh, I've always wanted handcuffs.

01:50:59 So, you can be locked up from the cocked up.

01:51:01 Yes.

01:51:02 Matter of fact, I'm going to be drunk and just lay on the bed.

01:51:05 I'm like, "Put my locked up ankles on the bed."

01:51:06 But don't do it with a one night stand because if you get locked in your hands and feet-

01:51:09 And then he gets drunk.

01:51:10 Or he robs me.

01:51:13 Can you imagine if you get found by mommy, dad, police,

01:51:15 locked in your ankles, balls, and your hands while you try to explain-

01:51:19 Slain.

01:51:20 While you try to explain how they found you on Jack and robbed you.

01:51:22 You're going on Hollywood Unlocked for sure.

01:51:25 Justin Smollett won't have shit on me.

01:51:26 Well, he's a bottom too, so he won't have shit on you.

01:51:31 Well, anyway.

01:51:32 I got to tell you.

01:51:33 So, you know, he called me for a movie.

01:51:34 I couldn't make it.

01:51:35 He needed me the next day.

01:51:37 It was a movie he filmed me on.

01:51:38 He's about to come out.

01:51:39 These are everything.

01:51:40 I can't wait to put these to use also.

01:51:42 Coffee, don't stop.

01:51:44 Let me love you to the remix.

01:51:47 Wait.

01:51:49 Oh, wait.

01:51:50 Oh, shit.

01:51:51 Aren't you in a movie with Joseline coming up?

01:51:53 Vivica A. Fox.

01:51:55 Not Joseline?

01:51:56 No.

01:51:56 Vivica A. Fox, honey.

01:51:57 No, I was going to say maybe you can give us handcuffs.

01:51:59 So, how do you-

01:52:01 Wait, did you put the handcuff on?

01:52:03 Now you're-

01:52:03 I did.

01:52:04 Okay, just leave your handcuffs on.

01:52:06 Go in the bottom bag for the rest of the gifts.

01:52:08 The bottom of the bag.

01:52:09 The bottom of the bottom bag for the rest of the bottom gifts.

01:52:11 I already know what this feels like.

01:52:16 I got to feel-

01:52:17 I got to grab this in my sleep in the dark, honey,

01:52:20 whenever it's time to open up this whole-

01:52:22 Honey, this better be what I'm thinking, honey.

01:52:23 Poppers?

01:52:24 Yeah.

01:52:25 Yeah, and it's Rush!

01:52:26 Wait, wait.

01:52:28 The mic.

01:52:29 Yes!

01:52:30 Yes!

01:52:32 So, let me explain something.

01:52:33 The Poppers world, you have like all these other jungle juices.

01:52:36 Then you have the Balenciaga Poppers, Rush.

01:52:40 Is that the Balenciaga Poppers?

01:52:41 It is.

01:52:42 So, what happens when you-

01:52:43 Because I've never-

01:52:44 Never fake it.

01:52:44 I don't use that.

01:52:45 You don't?

01:52:46 Here, let me open it right up here.

01:52:47 Wait, why do I need to open up?

01:52:49 Well, my top's faking sometimes too.

01:52:52 Wait, no, no, don't do it now.

01:52:53 Wait, don't do it now because if you-

01:52:54 I want to sniff right now.

01:52:54 If you pour Poppers on the damn-

01:52:56 I'm not.

01:52:57 Wait, so is there liquid in there or what is it?

01:52:59 Wait, your asshole's going to open up on the show.

01:53:03 Oh!

01:53:04 Wait.

01:53:05 I'm ready!

01:53:06 Wait, can you explain what Poppers is for people who are watching and don't know?

01:53:10 What is it?

01:53:13 Oh, wait.

01:53:13 Technically, hold on.

01:53:14 We got to be legal because this is-

01:53:15 You can't go to any store and be like, "Give me Poppers."

01:53:18 Why?

01:53:18 "Give me nail polish remover."

01:53:19 But no, they sell that as-

01:53:21 This is nail polish remover.

01:53:22 We cannot call it Poppers.

01:53:24 Why?

01:53:24 It's a solvent cleaner.

01:53:26 Okay, so tell people what the-

01:53:28 What this solvent cleaner does, if you inhale it, it cleans your nails.

01:53:31 This solvent cleaner does it for you.

01:53:32 You inhale it, it literally opens up.

01:53:34 It relaxes every muscle in your body, okay?

01:53:39 Including your ass.

01:53:40 Including your anal.

01:53:41 Okay.

01:53:42 But that opens up the most because it's a muscle you really don't work with the most.

01:53:46 So that's automatically just-

01:53:47 Basically, it just opens you up and allows you to take as much cock as you could ever desire

01:53:52 in your goddamn life.

01:53:53 Thank you guys so much.

01:53:55 Can I tell you my Poppers story I've never told?

01:53:57 Please.

01:53:57 I love Poppers.

01:53:59 Okay.

01:53:59 I didn't even know what Poppers was.

01:54:01 I had sex with a white man years ago.

01:54:03 Oh, there it is.

01:54:04 No, no.

01:54:04 In my early 20s, maybe 22, 23.

01:54:07 We're getting ready to have sex and he starts snorting something out of a bottle.

01:54:13 I'm thinking, "He's fucking snorting cocaine."

01:54:15 Nope.

01:54:16 But he was snorting this.

01:54:17 Every time we had sex, we had sex a few times, he would do the Poppers.

01:54:21 So the Poppers makes it where it opens you up and you can take an anaconda.

01:54:27 And not only that, yes, not only does it open you up, literally, it relaxes you to the point

01:54:32 where even subconsciously you're not flinching or trying to squeeze or whatever, but once

01:54:36 it does, it just also feels good.

01:54:38 Did you do Poppers with Andre?

01:54:39 Of course I did.

01:54:41 You did?

01:54:42 That big ass goddamn anaconda dick.

01:54:44 Did you let him stick it all in you?

01:54:46 All of it.

01:54:46 Jesus, that's a lot.

01:54:48 Me and Andre have had sex multiple times, so if people want to act like that was a fake

01:54:51 thing, that was real.

01:54:52 Did you guys do sex on OnlyFans together?

01:54:55 No.

01:54:55 I've never done sex on OnlyFans, period.

01:54:57 What is your only ... Is it body, ass?

01:54:59 If you pay enough, you can see that little asshole wink at you, you know what I'm saying?

01:55:03 But I've never done sex or anything like that.

01:55:06 Will I?

01:55:06 No.

01:55:07 I'm not a porn star.

01:55:08 I don't have to do that, but the OnlyFans money was great during the pandemic.

01:55:12 That's when I started OnlyFans.

01:55:13 It was because of the pandemic.

01:55:14 When did you decide, "I'm now going to act"?

01:55:16 I think that it was ... I need to explore the acting world.

01:55:20 I feel like I'm good at it.

01:55:22 I feel like you have the personality.

01:55:23 Yeah, I want to do it.

01:55:25 Part of me wanting to get famous was that.

01:55:27 I always see myself, and I think that's what's taking so long for my dreams to manifest,

01:55:31 because my dreams and my manifestation has been all over the place, and the universe

01:55:36 is doing its best job to bring everything to fruition.

01:55:38 It's like, "Okay, so let's just start with one thing, Bobby.

01:55:41 You want to be on TV?

01:55:41 You want to be ..." It's all happening, but part of what I was manifesting when I was

01:55:45 little was I want to be an actor.

01:55:46 I want to do movies.

01:55:48 Well, Sassy Santana came up pretty fast in doing rap the way that you were doing rap,

01:55:53 but do you think his took off more because he wasn't doing reality TV?

01:55:57 Do you feel like reality TV's held you back?

01:55:58 Yeah, yeah.

01:55:59 That, and also it was just like an organic thing that happened.

01:56:03 It started from his live with Young Miami.

01:56:07 The world fell in love with him.

01:56:08 They love ... You know what I'm saying?

01:56:09 He's hilarious, and it worked in his favor, and he did his thing.

01:56:14 He did his big one.

01:56:17 Honestly, even if let's say I didn't like him or I didn't like his music, I still would

01:56:24 never just tear him down or talk against someone like him because he is breaking down barriers.

01:56:33 I'm proud of him, and he is a part of our community, and we have so much division already,

01:56:37 and we barely ... We still are trying to solidify our spot, and we're still ...

01:56:42 We're still fighting.

01:56:44 Yeah, we're still fighting, and he's joined the fight.

01:56:47 He's part of our ... You know what I'm saying?

01:56:48 I'm so proud of him.

01:56:49 If you hated on him, you'd be Nicki Minaj.

01:56:50 Yeah, but also, and also this is the thing I've learned about hating.

01:56:56 You have to have a reason to hate, or you have to be just totally insecure, which is

01:57:01 I never actually found a genuine reason to hate on Saucey.

01:57:05 I loved him from the get-go.

01:57:06 I was like, "Bitch, you're funny.

01:57:08 You're outgoing.

01:57:09 You're Southern.

01:57:09 You're Florida, and bitch, you're doing the damn thing."

01:57:14 Have any straight men slid into your DMs, celebrities, though, to sleep with you?

01:57:17 Yes.

01:57:19 No one that no one would give a fuck about, but they're famous.

01:57:24 Like who?

01:57:27 I'm not you.

01:57:29 I've had sex with a few athletes, I'll say that.

01:57:32 NFL athletes.

01:57:34 Remember the one that you told me at the pool in Miami, you were like, "That one right there.

01:57:39 Yeah, he blocked me.

01:57:41 I slid too fast."

01:57:44 Okay, to be fair enough, he's not even in an NFL athletic.

01:57:46 No, but he was good looking, though.

01:57:48 He was fine as fuck.

01:57:49 Yeah.

01:57:49 I wasn't going to let him hit, but I'd have touched it.

01:57:52 You know that's what they want.

01:57:53 So Sukiyana was here on the show, and I remember, Suki, what I love about her is she's just

01:57:56 ratchet as fuck, but her publicist was behind the scenes saying, "Don't do that.

01:58:00 Don't do that," because they want her to be something different.

01:58:02 And you recently had a moment off camera with her about her just living in her truth and

01:58:06 being who she is.

01:58:07 What made you say that to her?

01:58:10 Do you feel like she just needed to be you?

01:58:13 Yeah, because she was trying to make ... It was this past season, season five of Love

01:58:19 & Hip Hop, and it was the first episode of the season.

01:58:21 And it was basically, she's now on this rebirth journey to rebrand herself because she has

01:58:29 this new record called "Famigos," this Afrobeat song.

01:58:32 It's really good.

01:58:32 I love the record.

01:58:33 First of all, I love the record.

01:58:34 Have you seen the video?

01:58:35 Yes.

01:58:35 Really good.

01:58:36 It's good.

01:58:36 I love it.

01:58:36 I love the record.

01:58:37 We play it all the time.

01:58:40 So basically, all I say, I was like, "Listen, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

01:58:44 Why are you trying to do this?"

01:58:45 We fell in love with ratchet, good, Suki with a good coochie.

01:58:49 And then here comes Sexy Red trying to take your spot.

01:58:52 According to Tasha K.

01:58:54 But I mean, Suki was doing that first.

01:58:57 I can say that what Sexy Red is now is what Suki came out the back doing.

01:59:03 And that's how it always ends on this issue.

01:59:05 And we love Suki for that.

01:59:06 Yeah.

01:59:08 Maybe Suki crossed so Sexy Red could walk.

01:59:12 You know?

01:59:14 I can't.

01:59:15 Okay.

01:59:15 I'm proud of you.

01:59:20 Let me just say that.

01:59:20 Thank you.

01:59:21 And I hope that ...

01:59:22 Are you enjoying the process?

01:59:23 Are you enjoying the journey?

01:59:24 I am.

01:59:25 I would like to think that I am.

01:59:27 Well, you know what?

01:59:28 Yes, I am.

01:59:28 Because I would never complain and I can't ...

01:59:30 I'm just running with the punches.

01:59:31 I'm navigating still.

01:59:33 Six, seven years in this industry, yes.

01:59:35 But it ain't enough for me to be like, "Okay.

01:59:38 I don't want to do this anymore.

01:59:41 I want to do this now.

01:59:42 I'm still working.

01:59:43 I'm still solidifying my name.

01:59:45 I'm still working.

01:59:48 I'm still ... You know what I'm saying?

01:59:49 I'm proud of how far I've come, but I know that there's more for me to accomplish.

01:59:52 And there's more of my act to clean up, as we can see today on the Jason Lee Show.

01:59:58 But you did-

01:59:58 Ain't shit changing yet.

02:00:00 But you done live in hip hop.

02:00:02 You did this show on Zeus.

02:00:04 And you've done movies now.

02:00:06 You got the movie with Vivica Fox.

02:00:07 But now you're in a show on the E! Network, House of Villains.

02:00:11 I've had a chance to see some of the episodes.

02:00:13 You've seen the show premiere.

02:00:15 And you're in the show on E! Network, which is part of the NBCUniversal and more mainstream,

02:00:21 with some of the biggest names in reality TV.

02:00:24 New York, Omarosa, WhoRTVGold, Tanisha.

02:00:27 How did you even get introduced to that?

02:00:30 Stephanie Gale.

02:00:32 Really?

02:00:33 She was producing that too?

02:00:34 No, she just, random.

02:00:36 One day it was just like, she calls me, and I thought I was in trouble about something

02:00:41 I did on Love & Hip Hop.

02:00:42 And she's like-

02:00:43 Stephanie Gale is one of the executive producers of Love & Hip Hop.

02:00:45 Yeah, I didn't answer right away.

02:00:47 So I called her back and I'm like, "Hey."

02:00:49 She's like, "Hey, sweet love.

02:00:51 I just wanted you to know I passed your information along for a new show they're casting.

02:00:55 I think you'll be great for it.

02:00:56 They want someone to represent the Love & Hip Hop franchise.

02:00:59 And I think you'll be fun and great for it."

02:01:02 Anyways, get the call.

02:01:05 I do the audition with the showrunner and the executive producers.

02:01:10 They love me right away.

02:01:11 I think they also felt the need to have the gay aspect of the house.

02:01:14 So I was able to do that.

02:01:16 And then I just, I land the gig.

02:01:20 I land the position.

02:01:20 And now looking back at everything, the way that it's all being rolled out and everything,

02:01:25 I'm just grateful to be a part of it.

02:01:27 The budget was huge.

02:01:28 I mean, it looks great.

02:01:30 I love a show with a big budget.

02:01:31 I wouldn't take this.

02:01:32 This is making noise.

02:01:32 But anyways.

02:01:33 Marina, come take this.

02:01:35 Wait, am I?

02:01:36 You need to just take the key.

02:01:38 Oh, shit.

02:01:38 He got it.

02:01:39 Got it.

02:01:39 Never mind, baby.

02:01:40 Yep, I got it.

02:01:41 At least you're practicing if you ever want to get handcuffed.

02:01:43 Yeah, because I don't want Trey to fucking rob me blind, honey.

02:01:47 There we go.

02:01:48 Yep.

02:01:50 I'm using this tonight, my poppers.

02:01:55 And this I'm going to put.

02:01:58 So I'm going to be handcuffed, ankle cuffed.

02:02:01 It's safe to say the Jason Lee show is very thoughtful.

02:02:04 Thoughtful.

02:02:05 T-H-O-T.

02:02:06 Thoughtful.

02:02:07 But yeah, so you're in this show.

02:02:11 You shaded the fuck out of Joe McHale.

02:02:12 By the way, Joe McHale is the host of the show who I went to the Super Bowl.

02:02:16 He went, he was on the plane.

02:02:18 Y'all don't think Jet.

02:02:19 We have what Tiffany Haddish's Jet.

02:02:21 I was just a companion.

02:02:22 No, it wasn't her Jet.

02:02:23 It was her connection.

02:02:24 The NFL sent a Jet for certain celebrities and they're plus ones.

02:02:27 I was a plus one.

02:02:28 To the Rihanna ball.

02:02:29 But Joe McHale was the host.

02:02:31 He's cool.

02:02:31 He's funny.

02:02:32 So wait.

02:02:34 The recent Super Bowl?

02:02:37 Yes, with Rihanna.

02:02:39 But we're talking about your show.

02:02:40 Major.

02:02:40 Okay, yeah.

02:02:40 Yeah, Joe McHale's the host of the show, House of Villains.

02:02:45 That is, it was Carson Daly at first.

02:02:46 At least I didn't say something like a black person's name, which I knew it was Carson.

02:02:52 Carson Daly, Joe McHale.

02:02:53 It's just--

02:02:55 It's the first time I've seen a black person think that the white people were the same.

02:02:58 Listen.

02:02:58 Usually it happens to us.

02:02:59 This what you get for putting a goddamn

02:03:02 nigglet from Love & Hip Hop on a white person's show, okay?

02:03:08 I'm trying to get adapted.

02:03:09 Damn it.

02:03:10 But what was the experience like?

02:03:13 Because I know you wanted Tiffany in New York Parlor to be the co-host for the Bobby I Love You

02:03:17 Purr reunion.

02:03:18 We were trying to get her, but she had a booking.

02:03:20 She had to do another show.

02:03:20 She was doing College Hill for BET.

02:03:23 But then you were able to meet her for the first time on the show.

02:03:25 What was that like?

02:03:26 Because she's TV gold.

02:03:28 So I see her because, fun fact, there's 10 villains living in one house.

02:03:33 You don't know who you're living with.

02:03:34 Not even a bit.

02:03:35 Not even from the beginning.

02:03:37 Even when you start to get casted, you're not allowed to be like, "Who's in the cast?"

02:03:44 You're not allowed to ask.

02:03:45 Well, I mean, you can.

02:03:45 They're just not going to tell you.

02:03:46 So they're like, "You have to wait to see."

02:03:48 That's whatever.

02:03:49 I didn't know who.

02:03:50 But in my head, I'm like, "There's two people I think need to really be in this house, and

02:03:53 if they aren't, then it ain't the House of Villains."

02:03:55 I was like, "Omarosa, New York."

02:03:57 So whatever.

02:03:57 So when I see her, automatically, I just bow down.

02:04:02 I'm like, "I can't believe I met one of my idols."

02:04:05 First of all, you can't be a gay man in life without knowing who the HBIC is.

02:04:12 Facts.

02:04:12 So I was just happy.

02:04:15 I felt like it was going to be a good show from that moment when I seen her.

02:04:19 And the show is called House of Villains.

02:04:21 But what is it?

02:04:21 So the show-- explain what is the idea of the show?

02:04:24 Why is it called House of Villains?

02:04:25 What are people doing in the house?

02:04:26 Purpose of the show is basically you get to see what happens when you put 10 of reality

02:04:33 TV's most infamous villains all in one house, and they're competing for a grand prize of

02:04:37 $200,000.

02:04:37 And then what makes it so interesting is they get a villain from all different franchises,

02:04:47 all different networks.

02:04:47 That's what makes it so crazy.

02:04:49 It's like you have Vanderpump Rules, you have Bachelor, you have Love of Hip Hop, The

02:04:54 Apprentice, Survivor--

02:04:55 90 Day Fiance.

02:04:56 90 Day Fiance.

02:04:57 You have Love is Blind.

02:04:59 Oh my God, Bad Girls Club.

02:05:01 So all these shows.

02:05:02 Now you have all these-- and then we're put into a house.

02:05:06 So that alone, I mean, that's the show right there.

02:05:10 But what makes it so interesting is that you get the opportunity to become super villain

02:05:14 of the week every challenge.

02:05:15 And when you become super villain of the week, you have the power to put up three people

02:05:19 for elimination.

02:05:20 Those three people then have to do a redemption challenge, and there's only one winner from

02:05:28 that.

02:05:28 And now you have two people left that didn't win the redemption challenge.

02:05:32 You've had plenty of time now to redeem yourself.

02:05:34 So now you guys are put up on a pedestal.

02:05:36 And now the rest of the house, including that third person that was up for elimination that

02:05:40 won that redemption challenge, now we all get to vote out of those two who stays, who

02:05:44 leaves.

02:05:45 But those kind of shows kind of make me like, I would be crazy.

02:05:48 Because first, you have to share a room with people.

02:05:50 And then we have no doors over our--

02:05:53 And are they filming you all 24/7?

02:05:54 You're being filmed 24/7.

02:05:56 So if you snore, they're filming that.

02:05:57 There's a camera directly over your head when you're sleeping.

02:06:00 And then do they turn the lights off at night, though?

02:06:02 They do.

02:06:02 OK, because Big Brother, they never turn the lights off.

02:06:04 They didn't?

02:06:04 No, and they never-- there was no clocks, no TV, no nothing.

02:06:07 So the lights are on just--

02:06:08 We had no TVs, no clocks, no phones.

02:06:10 And so you know nothing that's going on in the real world.

02:06:12 Nothing.

02:06:12 And then you guys are in this house, and then you're living with these people every day

02:06:17 for three weeks?

02:06:18 Going on a month, depending on how long you make it in the competition.

02:06:21 But what if-- like, was there ever a time where you wanted to tell people, just get

02:06:24 the fuck away from me?

02:06:25 There was a time where I wanted to log on to Jack to find me a piece of dick for the

02:06:28 night.

02:06:28 But just--

02:06:29 Did you find any dick--

02:06:30 Tuck titties.

02:06:31 Did you find any dick in the house?

02:06:32 No, no.

02:06:32 Did you mess with anybody in the house?

02:06:34 No, I wish.

02:06:35 There was none of my types.

02:06:36 Nobody was my type in there.

02:06:37 And you know, yeah.

02:06:40 OK, so now you've done reality TV, you've done the movies.

02:06:44 Go back to the music.

02:06:46 I see you DJing in Greece, or DJing in Paris.

02:06:50 Or like, do you ever think about the crossover to like, electronic music or something different?

02:06:55 So aside from me doing music, R&B, hip hop, like I song write.

02:07:00 I am an artist.

02:07:01 Recently dropped a single, "Judgment Day."

02:07:04 I did it during Pride Month.

02:07:05 You were in a church.

02:07:06 I sure did.

02:07:07 And people were not happy about that.

02:07:08 I don't care.

02:07:09 But that message needed to be put out.

02:07:11 And that's what makes me who I am today.

02:07:13 What was the message?

02:07:14 Because you were wearing a dress in the church.

02:07:16 Don't judge.

02:07:19 Who are you to judge somebody?

02:07:21 You know what I'm saying?

02:07:22 We need to just start worrying about ourselves individually, and just love one another,

02:07:28 and understand that we are all one, regardless of race, religion, ethnicity.

02:07:35 It was the love and hip hop version of "Like a Prayer."

02:07:38 Because Madonna, remember she did the--

02:07:40 She lost her Pepsi deal.

02:07:43 She was dragged for filth when she did that.

02:07:45 Because people in the church don't want to talk about that issue in the church.

02:07:48 In fact, Cardi B liked the post.

02:07:51 And then I think she caught wind of what they were saying in the comments, and she unliked the post.

02:07:55 She was like, "I'm dealing with it."

02:07:57 Then she was dealing with some other shit going on.

02:07:59 And I noticed that.

02:08:00 It's something she didn't even know that I noticed, but I noticed it.

02:08:01 And I was like, "Yes!"

02:08:02 And once a Cardi B with 159 million people likes something, everybody sees it.

02:08:06 No, I think what it was, I see literally one person at her, and they're like,

02:08:10 "Of course you would like a video like this.

02:08:12 Blasphemy, played in the house of God."

02:08:15 And out there she was like, "Oh, nope, not today."

02:08:17 She unliked it.

02:08:17 I was like, "Fuck!

02:08:18 It's the fans.

02:08:20 They ruin shit for us.

02:08:21 Fuck!

02:08:23 Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck!"

02:08:26 That's how we talk about a video in a church.

02:08:30 That's crazy.

02:08:31 I mean--

02:08:32 The pastor and all--

02:08:33 By the way, the pastor who played the pastor was B Sugar Daddy.

02:08:37 What?

02:08:37 I was like, "B, I need someone who looks like a pastor."

02:08:41 No one wants a--

02:08:42 And I went to the Halloween store to get the pastor costume.

02:08:43 Wait, wait, B, your assistant?

02:08:45 Yes, my assistant, Sugar Daddy.

02:08:47 So he's gay?

02:08:48 Was he gay?

02:08:48 Yeah, he's gay as a lamp.

02:08:50 Do we know he was gay in the video?

02:08:52 No, honey, he's a pastor.

02:08:53 He's condemning me for being gay while being gay,

02:08:56 played in the house of God in a costume, priest suit.

02:08:59 Hollywood's wicked, guys.

02:09:01 Wait, wait.

02:09:02 The pastor, the guy playing the pastor condemning you for being gay in the church in the video

02:09:07 was gay?

02:09:07 The gay, absolutely.

02:09:09 And a Sugar Daddy.

02:09:10 Sugar Daddy.

02:09:10 Oh, shit!

02:09:12 Allegedly.

02:09:13 I'm acting-- allegedly.

02:09:14 I'm acting like people can't go watch the video right now and go look at the past.

02:09:18 Oh my God, I'm sorry, Omar.

02:09:19 Oh, no, I said his name.

02:09:21 Fuck!

02:09:22 Damn!

02:09:22 Like, what the fuck?

02:09:25 Omar, we got bills over here.

02:09:26 Omar, I paid you.

02:09:28 Yeah.

02:09:28 I did pay you.

02:09:29 So you were his sugar--

02:09:30 Well, you were his employer for the day, whatever.

02:09:31 Yeah, I employed him.

02:09:32 When nobody went to hell and everybody's good.

02:09:34 OK.

02:09:34 So now--

02:09:35 Yet.

02:09:36 So do you want to do more music?

02:09:37 What's next?

02:09:37 Yes, I'm coming.

02:09:38 I'm actually dropping some more stuff.

02:09:40 I'm actually getting right now-- so you know the term that everyone loves to throw around,

02:09:44 payola?

02:09:44 I can't wait to dabble in that world.

02:09:47 Payola me, please.

02:09:48 Yeah, I'm about to get investors.

02:09:50 I'm about to pay for everything.

02:09:51 My music career is going to take off somewhere or another.

02:09:54 Bitch, I have more talent than half these people that are out here right now, and the

02:09:56 world's going to hear my shit.

02:09:58 So anyways, I'm looking for a backer right now.

02:09:59 I need an investment.

02:10:00 I want to do things differently now.

02:10:02 I was signed already, got out of that deal.

02:10:04 I want to do things independently now, but I need the funds.

02:10:07 You know, I want to be able to fund it, and I'm working on that right now.

02:10:09 I'm securing the investment.

02:10:11 I mean, I can take my own money, but that's not smart.

02:10:14 I'd rather have someone invest, and I go full throttle.

02:10:18 So I want to like-- just I really want to take it there now.

02:10:20 Yeah.

02:10:21 Well, hopefully there's a sugar day looking to invest.

02:10:23 Yes.

02:10:24 OK.

02:10:25 All right, well, listen, that was the fun.

02:10:27 Now let's get to the mess.

02:10:28 We got games.

02:10:30 All right, we all know that we like to play a good game here at the Jason Lee Show, and

02:10:32 now it's time for Smash or Pass.

02:10:34 So there's going to be a paddle right there on the side.

02:10:38 Go ahead and grab that paddle.

02:10:39 All right, so you have a paddle right there in your hand.

02:10:42 This is pretty obvious.

02:10:43 We're going to play the game, and I'll play with you.

02:10:45 So if you see the person pop up on the screen, you could just say whether you would smash

02:10:50 or pass.

02:10:51 OK?

02:10:52 Ready?

02:10:52 The first person.

02:10:53 All right, so I'm going to play the game.

02:10:55 I'm going to play the game.

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02:11:39 I've always said up to--

02:11:41 Fun fact, I've never spoken to him sober or even like on a normal--

02:11:46 It's always that I've been drunk or just partying and just turnt up in LA.

02:11:52 And I think that he's like--

02:11:54 He knows I'm cool.

02:11:55 Whenever he sees me, he always says hi.

02:11:57 He gives me a hug.

02:11:58 But I know he's scared of me.

02:12:01 But do you ever go up to him and say, I really like you?

02:12:03 No.

02:12:04 No.

02:12:05 But if he called you, you would let him hit on the first day?

02:12:08 First day?

02:12:11 You just said you let somebody from Jack come over and rummage through your guts.

02:12:14 Why wouldn't he?

02:12:15 But that's-- there's no--

02:12:18 This one you would want to stay?

02:12:19 Yeah.

02:12:20 Yeah.

02:12:21 I would want to--

02:12:22 I mean, if you're going to want to take it there with me, then let's make it--

02:12:26 OK.

02:12:27 So look in the camera and send a message directly to Lil Nas X who might be watching.

02:12:31 Montero, let's just go on a date.

02:12:33 Let's start there.

02:12:34 Let's do a date.

02:12:36 And it'll be on me.

02:12:37 Everything will be on me.

02:12:40 And if it goes well, everything will literally be on you.

02:12:42 Including cum.

02:12:44 On me.

02:12:47 OK.

02:12:48 Here's the next person.

02:12:49 We've been creative here.

02:12:51 Roll it right.

02:12:54 You're my good sister.

02:12:57 So if he rolled up on you and said, what's up?

02:13:00 Sis.

02:13:01 It's the past.

02:13:03 Not even with that Michael Jackson look he got there?

02:13:06 Sorry, Ray.

02:13:08 Remember on the show--

02:13:09 I'll give you one of my boys from the show, though.

02:13:11 Remember on the reunion where we told Hot Wheels to roll out?

02:13:13 Yeah.

02:13:14 People were mad about that, huh?

02:13:19 Roll out.

02:13:20 It was just-- I was like, yeah, roll out.

02:13:24 Get it?

02:13:25 Roll out.

02:13:26 Roll out.

02:13:28 But for me, I thought that was inclusive.

02:13:30 It was Ray with the electric chair and Hot Wheels with the manual chair.

02:13:34 It's almost because, like, bitch, please.

02:13:37 Take me in my Mercedes Benz with your Toyota.

02:13:40 Like, that's what it was giving me.

02:13:41 Wasn't that like elitism between the handicapped community?

02:13:44 Like, my shit got uploaded and yours don't.

02:13:46 It showed the division in different worlds.

02:13:48 It just shows.

02:13:49 Like, your handler fucked everybody.

02:13:50 Mine didn't.

02:13:51 Right.

02:13:52 Oh, that.

02:13:53 Yeah, that was just--

02:13:54 It was a lot.

02:13:55 It was a lot.

02:13:56 Best reality show on Zeus.

02:13:57 OK, the next one.

02:13:58 Now this one is he's sexy.

02:14:00 Oh, shit, yeah.

02:14:02 I would marry-- I know he's going to see this, but I would marry Odell Beckham.

02:14:07 I never-- no, I'm never going to go there.

02:14:09 But yep, me too.

02:14:11 Oh, absolutely.

02:14:12 I mean, Odell--

02:14:13 He's that fine.

02:14:15 So me, like, what pleases me is when you're hung, right?

02:14:20 But he's so fine.

02:14:23 He's the fine type of guy that you don't care if his dick is three inches.

02:14:27 No, no, no.

02:14:29 No?

02:14:30 No.

02:14:31 Odell doesn't give me three inches.

02:14:32 Well, I mean, even--

02:14:33 I don't know if I'm hung, but--

02:14:34 I was going to say, that's how fine he is.

02:14:35 But I will say, Odell, it's somewhat-- I mean, he's sexy, but he's also cute.

02:14:40 Yeah, he's sexy and cute.

02:14:42 And crazy.

02:14:43 Yeah, because there's a difference between cute and sexy.

02:14:44 And crazy.

02:14:45 There he is.

02:14:46 OK.

02:14:47 But he's dating Kim Kardashian, allegedly, now.

02:14:48 I heard that.

02:14:49 I'm not sure if that's--

02:14:50 I would be mad.

02:14:51 If it's real, I mean, I know they were hanging out, because the night that we were in "Booby

02:14:55 Trap," they were there.

02:14:56 I don't know if you knew that.

02:14:58 I knew Kim was there, but not him, though.

02:15:00 He was-- allegedly, he was with her.

02:15:02 Oh, gag.

02:15:03 I didn't see him, but whatever.

02:15:04 OK.

02:15:05 Next one.

02:15:06 Teyana Taylor.

02:15:07 Teyana Taylor?

02:15:08 Oh, smash.

02:15:09 She's hot.

02:15:10 So, fun fact.

02:15:11 I always talk about this.

02:15:12 She's one of the few girls on Earth that can turn me straight.

02:15:19 So would you let her put a strap on?

02:15:21 She has an androgy-- absolutely.

02:15:22 She has an androgynous thing about her.

02:15:24 But at the same time, Teyana's my girl.

02:15:26 We've bought-- I've done yachts with her together.

02:15:30 I would like to consider her a friend.

02:15:32 We are friends, but I don't know.

02:15:34 She's a Sag.

02:15:35 They're very particular on what they consider friends.

02:15:37 But she knows who I am.

02:15:39 I know who she is.

02:15:40 Love her to death.

02:15:41 So I don't want to get too weird.

02:15:42 I'm just saying.

02:15:43 I'm not going to say pass, because she ain't ugly.

02:15:45 She's hot, and I will.

02:15:46 So I would say smash, for sure.

02:15:47 What do you think about the fact that now she's single?

02:15:49 Now her and her man are done.

02:15:50 Girl, get out there, girl.

02:15:52 Get out there, Teyana.

02:15:53 She's been posting a lot of stuff.

02:15:55 She's been posting some sexy little--

02:15:57 She needs to.

02:15:58 And that body is everything.

02:16:00 And I love that, to me, there's nothing better than a healthy cut off,

02:16:04 or whatever you want to call it.

02:16:05 Separation.

02:16:06 Yeah, healthy separation.

02:16:07 They are clearly still friends.

02:16:08 They're co-parenting.

02:16:09 They both have an amazing spirit about them.

02:16:12 I felt like they were literally best friends before couples,

02:16:15 from the beginning of time anyways.

02:16:17 So yeah, I would say just get out there, girl.

02:16:19 Do your thing.

02:16:20 OK, what about this next person?

02:16:22 We both know him.

02:16:24 Blueface.

02:16:27 This is tricky.

02:16:29 Because--

02:16:30 Blueface is fine.

02:16:31 Blueface is fine.

02:16:32 I just don't want to piss off Kreshawn right now.

02:16:34 People out there are going to be mad at us for saying he's fine.

02:16:36 Because they don't like him.

02:16:37 But Blueface is fine.

02:16:39 If I say-- if I give my final answer, will you at least give my lead up?

02:16:44 So I'm going to say pass, just because he just had his baby with Kreshawn.

02:16:49 There's a lot going on with him.

02:16:51 I don't want to piss off Kreshawn.

02:16:52 She may or may not be going through postpartum.

02:16:54 I don't want to just make her feel like I'm-- so I'm going to pass on him.

02:16:57 But it's not because--

02:16:59 OK, if Kreshawn wasn't in the picture, smash or pass?

02:17:02 If all this, I mean, it would be a smash.

02:17:04 He's cute.

02:17:05 He's tall.

02:17:06 He's handsome.

02:17:07 He smells good.

02:17:08 He always smells good.

02:17:09 He's a winner of the Mandingo Hall of Fame.

02:17:11 Have you seen his nudes?

02:17:12 I've seen-- he has nudes?

02:17:14 Google right now.

02:17:15 I've seen him fucking Kreshawn.

02:17:17 Where?

02:17:18 The sex tape.

02:17:19 Google right now.

02:17:20 But he has--

02:17:21 Google blue face nudes mixtape right now.

02:17:24 Google blue face--

02:17:26 Please put your phone down so they can see your face.

02:17:28 Thank you.

02:17:29 Oh, wait.

02:17:30 Wait, I didn't know this.

02:17:31 I just was going-- and it was blurred.

02:17:33 Wait, wait, wait.

02:17:34 Blue face nude mixtape?

02:17:37 Yeah, and click image.

02:17:38 View image.

02:17:45 [GASPS]

02:17:47 Oh, wait.

02:17:48 He really put--

02:17:50 OK, Mandingo.

02:17:53 Now do you see why Kreshawn's acting up?

02:18:00 Crazy over that dick.

02:18:01 I know that's right, girl.

02:18:03 So when you see blue face of Kreshawn

02:18:05 in everything on social media, do you think it's too much?

02:18:08 Yes, but it's like--

02:18:10 I mean, you have to go live for everything.

02:18:13 I mean, it's up to there.

02:18:14 It's like every time--

02:18:15 like, she literally went live giving birth,

02:18:17 which I thought was iconic.

02:18:18 She booked it.

02:18:19 I've never seen nobody with 364,000 views on their IG.

02:18:22 You can never fake live views.

02:18:24 Yeah, she broke the--

02:18:25 That was more combined in--

02:18:27 Cardi, Nicki, fucking Rihanna.

02:18:30 Can all three go live together?

02:18:32 I don't think it would be 364,000 views.

02:18:36 With it?

02:18:37 Well, it's a lot.

02:18:38 That's a lot of--

02:18:39 I've seen-- during the verses and during club quarantine--

02:18:41 That went up to a million.

02:18:42 Yeah, yeah.

02:18:43 But that was the verses.

02:18:44 And that was during COVID.

02:18:45 Quarantine, with nothing-- yeah.

02:18:46 And then even after that, it just--

02:18:48 it never did the same numbers other than that one.

02:18:50 Who was that?

02:18:51 That was a big--

02:18:52 I just-- I've seen every person go live.

02:18:55 I've never seen those numbers.

02:18:56 I've seen 100,000 with your faves.

02:19:01 I'm talking about your top faves.

02:19:02 I've never seen 364,000 and counting views.

02:19:06 What do you think about when Blueface--

02:19:09 Even her likes--

02:19:10 150,000 comments under one picture?

02:19:15 Unheard of.

02:19:16 Show me right now.

02:19:17 Not even be-- show me right now someone is--

02:19:19 So basically, Krishna is almost as famous

02:19:21 as one of the Kardashians.

02:19:22 Pat, more famous than them.

02:19:24 Damn.

02:19:25 Any of the Kardashians right now, I guarantee you.

02:19:28 Prove me wrong, and I will wire you $150,000

02:19:31 or how many views it is--

02:19:33 you will not catch not one Kardashian going live

02:19:36 and getting as many views as Krishna, period.

02:19:39 What do you think about Babyface singing

02:19:42 in "Survive" all the time?

02:19:44 Iconic.

02:19:46 Iconic.

02:19:47 And he was there at your award show watching her--

02:19:50 well, first of all, wasn't that his request?

02:19:52 No.

02:19:53 Oh.

02:19:54 That was my idea.

02:19:55 Iconic.

02:19:56 But nonetheless, he put--

02:19:57 I just wish-- sometimes I wish I would say this,

02:19:59 and maybe this is--

02:20:00 I just wish she had, like, a solid team

02:20:03 to really just take this, all that--

02:20:06 And run with it.

02:20:07 And work-- and put it-- work.

02:20:09 Do you think it's going to shape into anything?

02:20:11 With the right team.

02:20:12 She needs an agent.

02:20:13 She needs a manager.

02:20:14 She needs a publicist.

02:20:15 She needs a publicist team, a PR team.

02:20:18 Do you think she should put her tooth back in?

02:20:21 I always say that, but it's work--

02:20:23 I think that that's just her--

02:20:24 It's her thing.

02:20:25 It's become her thing.

02:20:26 Yeah.

02:20:27 I like Krishna.

02:20:28 OK.

02:20:29 I love Krishna.

02:20:30 You like chocolate, so what about this next person?

02:20:31 Mm.

02:20:32 Give me--

02:20:33 Oh!

02:20:34 This is my-- that's my number one crush,

02:20:35 but I was so disappointed to meet him at Coachella,

02:20:37 and he's shorter than me.

02:20:38 He's short?

02:20:39 Yes, he's shorter than me.

02:20:42 Oh!

02:20:43 I love him.

02:20:44 That's my-- oh!

02:20:45 So would you let him nut on your face?

02:20:47 Oh, he can nut inside me.

02:20:49 [GASPS]

02:20:50 Wait, I keep forgetting--

02:20:51 see, that's what they do in interviews with my friends.

02:20:53 It gets too fucking risque.

02:20:54 Oh, my god.

02:20:55 That's so inappropriate.

02:20:56 I'm sorry.

02:20:58 I'm just saying what you could do.

02:20:59 I'm not saying to do it.

02:21:01 I'm just saying what you could do.

02:21:03 What about this person?

02:21:04 I think-- I think he's hot.

02:21:05 Love Gideon.

02:21:06 Gideon, Gideon.

02:21:07 Bad Bunny.

02:21:08 Ugh, I'm going to pass, but I get why he's hot.

02:21:09 I'm going to pass.

02:21:10 Why?

02:21:11 You think he's too pretty?

02:21:12 Ever since I've seen him put on tits--

02:21:14 Tits.

02:21:15 --and gloves and a wig, yeah.

02:21:16 But he's just--

02:21:17 --and make out with his girlfriend.

02:21:18 He just pisses me off.

02:21:19 He's just trolling.

02:21:20 I know, but I can't-- remember, I told you,

02:21:21 I can never let someone fuck me to where it's more makeup than me.

02:21:24 Like, what?

02:21:25 He put on tits, hair, wigs, every-- nails, everything.

02:21:29 That man is beautiful.

02:21:30 But he is beautiful.

02:21:31 He is beautiful.

02:21:32 He is very cute, and he's tall.

02:21:33 And he's dating Kylie-- Kendall Jenner now.

02:21:35 They're done, I thought.

02:21:36 Or they're still dating?

02:21:37 Oh, no, it's Kylie now.

02:21:38 They have someone.

02:21:39 They what?

02:21:40 The other guy?

02:21:41 They be so random with the guys they date.

02:21:43 Like, they have no types.

02:21:44 Pussy don't never take a dick.

02:21:45 I ain't got no-- I ain't got no type.

02:21:48 All right, this next one is chocolate.

02:21:49 That bony.

02:21:50 This next one's chocolate, too.

02:21:52 Flavor Flake.

02:21:53 But he was probably sexy back in the day, though.

02:22:03 He probably got a big old dick.

02:22:05 Those be the men that have huge ass, big, hoarse dicks.

02:22:11 So if Flavor Flake pulled out a 12-inch dick and said,

02:22:15 here's some poppers, let's go, one time nobody

02:22:17 will ever find out.

02:22:19 It's going to take more than poppers to get me

02:22:21 to lay down with that dick.

02:22:23 I'm going to need, like-- I'm going to need, like, an 8-ball.

02:22:28 And like, a half a bottle of Casamigos Reposado,

02:22:30 or De Leon Reposado, to lay down with him.

02:22:34 Pass.

02:22:35 Sorry.

02:22:36 No offense, Flavor.

02:22:37 You just become-- be Aunt/Uncle.

02:22:38 You're almost like Grandpa now.

02:22:39 Shout out to Delicious.

02:22:44 New York.

02:22:45 New York, Boots and all you guys.

02:22:46 New York was fighting for that for years.

02:22:48 Shout out to you, New York, girl.

02:22:51 All right, what about this one?

02:22:52 We had to put a little white in there.

02:22:54 He's hot.

02:22:55 Oh!

02:22:56 Diplo.

02:22:57 Smash.

02:22:58 Diplo said he let a man suck his dick before.

02:22:59 Did you know that?

02:23:00 I remember.

02:23:01 I see.

02:23:02 Oh, no.

02:23:03 He's a free spirit.

02:23:04 Now, he never shared that with me.

02:23:05 Oh, he's a free spirit.

02:23:06 He's one of those free spirit people we was talking about.

02:23:07 Yep, I'd be sliding in.

02:23:08 Diplo's sexy, honey.

02:23:09 He has a party tonight, here in LA.

02:23:10 Here in LA?

02:23:11 I want to meet him.

02:23:12 You want to slide by on the way to it?

02:23:13 Yes, let's go.

02:23:14 OK.

02:23:15 Diplo, here I come.

02:23:16 Let's get an update on this.

02:23:17 Literally.

02:23:18 Would you suck his dick?

02:23:19 If it's big, or if it's thick.

02:23:20 It don't have to be long.

02:23:21 If it's thick-- see, I have this thing.

02:23:22 It don't have to be huge, huge.

02:23:23 It either has to be long and hefty and thick, or if it's going to be short, at least it's

02:23:30 got to be thick.

02:23:31 If it's the right size, hell yeah.

02:23:34 All right, well, this next game is called Erase the Shade.

02:23:41 Now, if you've ever bad-mouthed somebody publicly, or been in the news for your opinion, or said

02:23:48 something shady as fuck, you'll have an opportunity here to erase the shade and apologize.

02:23:52 Or you just can stand on it and say what you said.

02:23:56 I like that.

02:23:57 All right, here we go.

02:23:58 The first one, they said that Bobby Lights was channeling his inner Eric Amena, and you

02:24:05 retweeted it.

02:24:06 Take it back.

02:24:07 Was that shady?

02:24:08 Oh, shit.

02:24:09 I didn't know I retweeted it.

02:24:10 I think that was my way of saying it, I guess.

02:24:12 So here's what I think.

02:24:13 I was not channeling my inner Eric Amena.

02:24:16 I was channeling Vanity Lights, who is my alter ego, honey.

02:24:20 She's her own person.

02:24:21 Now, I can't help it that, I guess what, which I still don't see, maybe to the right

02:24:26 one, but I don't ... Certain moments, I don't know.

02:24:28 There's this theory, though, in pop culture and in the world, that I resemble Eric Amena

02:24:34 even as a guy.

02:24:35 Do you?

02:24:36 No.

02:24:37 I mean, either.

02:24:38 No.

02:24:39 Everyone says I look like Eric Amena.

02:24:40 No.

02:24:41 Do you think so?

02:24:42 No.

02:24:43 No?

02:24:44 All right.

02:24:45 Don't break the fourth wall.

02:24:46 They don't exist.

02:24:47 Yeah, yeah.

02:24:48 They don't exist.

02:24:49 Yeah, so ... Well, plus you still have a job and she doesn't.

02:24:50 So you guys are definitely different.

02:24:52 Okay, let's move on.

02:24:54 Okay, this next one.

02:24:58 You know what I can't take is when a female rapper has a writer.

02:25:01 It's like the end of the world.

02:25:02 Newsflash, every single last one of your favorite females has used a pen, rappers use the pen.

02:25:08 At some point in their career, they've had a ghost writer, or is it really a ghost?

02:25:11 Anyways, who can deliver what I just wrote down, and who can make it sell is the question.

02:25:16 Oh, okay.

02:25:17 Sure.

02:25:18 Yeah.

02:25:19 I stare at it.

02:25:20 I don't care so much about rappers who have-

02:25:22 It's so stupid.

02:25:23 It's so stupid.

02:25:24 It's so stupid.

02:25:25 It's so stupid, because it's like ... My last line is like, "Anyways, who can deliver what

02:25:30 they wrote, and who can make it sell?"

02:25:32 So hypothetically speaking, let's say Bongo's just dropped, Cardi B. Let's say someone wrote

02:25:39 the whole thing, which I've learned based off of Cardi's intelligence, that they don't

02:25:43 just write her stuff.

02:25:44 She can write her own shit.

02:25:46 But let's say someone wrote the whole thing from beginning to finish, who the fuck else

02:25:49 can get up there, deliver those looks, perform, and make the video look so scrumptious and

02:25:54 amazing and perfect?

02:25:56 Takes a whole thing.

02:25:57 It's not just about who cares, because guess what?

02:26:00 In the R&B world, no one's like, "Well, Monica, you didn't write that."

02:26:05 No one's saying like, "Well, you didn't write that, Keisha Cole," because it's R&B.

02:26:08 It's like, "Oh, it takes a village to write a R&B record.

02:26:11 Why can't it take a village to write a hip hop record?"

02:26:13 Because it's been a thing.

02:26:15 It's another stigma in hip hop.

02:26:17 We have to break it.

02:26:18 We have to come to an end, because that is the beginning of all of this controversy right

02:26:23 now when it comes to ... It's like, "Bitch, I couldn't be a female rapper, because soon

02:26:27 they want to bring up ..." I'd be like, "Bitch, matter of fact, you right.

02:26:30 I didn't write the song.

02:26:31 I sat the fuck back and 10 other people wrote the song.

02:26:33 I just came in there off my high horse, got in the booth, and I delivered the record.

02:26:37 Now, sue me, bitch."

02:26:38 I have a question, too.

02:26:41 When they say rappers have ghostwriters, it's a bad thing when it's a hit, but when it flops,

02:26:46 it's the artist's fault.

02:26:47 Exactly.

02:26:48 So, that means the artist is not to flop, the ghostwriter is.

02:26:50 Exactly.

02:26:51 I can say, having worked with Kanye, I will say during the Donda 2 creation, when they

02:26:59 rented the whole floor of the Soho warehouse, there were a lot of people up there, a lot

02:27:03 were artists and a lot were writers.

02:27:05 That's all I'll say.

02:27:06 Just keep it cute.

02:27:07 Yeah.

02:27:08 All right, here's another one.

02:27:09 You said, "Since everybody want to be fake and not keep it real on Beyonce's internet,

02:27:14 I'll go ahead and say it, 'Krishan, my sweet baby, you are not ready for a baby.

02:27:18 One day, yes.

02:27:19 I say this with so much love.

02:27:20 Just take this time to grow and evolve.

02:27:22 You can do it.

02:27:23 I believe in you.'"

02:27:24 This was before she had the baby, and then now we've seen the Walmart video, we've seen

02:27:28 all the stuff going on where she wanted to rename the baby and then not rename the baby.

02:27:32 Do you stand on this now that you were actually just being a friend, sharing this out of love,

02:27:36 or do you take it back?

02:27:38 I don't.

02:27:39 I stand with ... It's 50/50.

02:27:41 Because now, I made it public, so I'm rooting for her.

02:27:46 I'm happy that she finally actually had the baby.

02:27:49 I will say also this.

02:27:50 It's erase the shade or not.

02:27:51 You either stand on it or erase it.

02:27:52 Erase the shade.

02:27:53 I'll erase the shade.

02:27:54 I feel bad, because now she has postpartum and she actually had the baby.

02:27:57 I will say it.

02:27:58 That's what I'll say.

02:27:59 Then, I was also not sure if it was real.

02:28:03 I thought it was a rumor.

02:28:04 I thought she was clout chasing.

02:28:05 I thought it was fake.

02:28:06 Well, remember she was here on the show drinking and they were smoking and all that.

02:28:08 I thought it was fake.

02:28:09 I'm like, "Sure, she's not pregnant."

02:28:10 With that being said, baby, you're not ready for a little baby, so don't even think about

02:28:12 having a baby if you're just trying to hit to us.

02:28:15 No, she actually was pregnant.

02:28:18 Now it's here and I feel like she is ready in terms that she had to go through so much.

02:28:23 There's also so much that I know that the world doesn't know.

02:28:26 Me being affiliated with zoos, being with Lamy, I've had a lot of FaceTime calls with

02:28:29 her during the pregnancy and all that.

02:28:31 She needed this baby.

02:28:32 I just wish her the best.

02:28:33 I just hope she ... I still believe in her.

02:28:36 I do think that she still has time to grow and evolve.

02:28:39 I'm wishing her the best, honestly and truly.

02:28:41 Blue Face is watching.

02:28:42 Who's the better artist, her, Jaden, or Alexis?

02:28:46 Oh, Kershawn, for sure.

02:28:49 Now Kershawn needs more direction and songwriters on her team.

02:28:52 Right now she's putting out anything, but the "It's a Vibe" was like-

02:28:56 I love that song.

02:28:57 It's a way of proving like, "Look, I can put out a dope vibe.

02:28:59 I like her raspiness when she raps or sings, whatever.

02:29:02 I like her vulnerability and it's real.

02:29:05 It seems authentic."

02:29:07 Jaden, that was just a straight jab.

02:29:09 She didn't want to do no damn music.

02:29:12 That's all being constructed.

02:29:13 Here's another one.

02:29:16 I'm never signing to a label again.

02:29:17 I say that because today I can say I am free from the past deals I've signed.

02:29:21 One was a great learning experience and another was a disaster.

02:29:24 Either way, I've learned the route to take is independent.

02:29:27 I'm so happy and excited for what's ahead of me.

02:29:31 Being patient enough and trusting the process, it was all for a reason.

02:29:34 Here's to me doing it all over again.

02:29:35 That's good.

02:29:36 Stand on that.

02:29:37 That was recent.

02:29:38 Yep.

02:29:39 That's the phase you're witnessing right now.

02:29:40 June 1st is actually when I dropped the song "Judgment Day."

02:29:45 You were in a label deal with Empire Records, right?

02:29:48 They were my distribution and then I was signed to Clear Vision.

02:29:52 Was it a disaster?

02:29:53 Yeah.

02:29:54 What didn't you like about it?

02:29:55 Because there was a lot of people-

02:29:56 I mean just the lack thereof of doing anything that a label is supposed to do.

02:30:01 You didn't seek radio play.

02:30:07 I was signed into a label that was coming into the game trying to be a label.

02:30:11 They didn't have no experience.

02:30:12 It's not like they were around for five, six, seven years.

02:30:15 They were literally jumping in, starting a label and I was the first artist and I just

02:30:19 seen the dollar sign.

02:30:20 They gave me an advance which was nothing but then to me, bitch, it was something.

02:30:25 I was like, "I'm going to take it."

02:30:30 Never again.

02:30:31 Never again, period.

02:30:32 Right now, I could be Atlantic coming to me to sign.

02:30:35 I'm not going to take the deal.

02:30:36 I know the game now.

02:30:37 I'm 32.

02:30:38 I'm wiser.

02:30:39 I have lawyers.

02:30:40 I just know that's not the way to do it.

02:30:44 Females have better luck signing to labels.

02:30:45 I will say that.

02:30:46 They're able to use their presence, their sexuality and stuff to really advance and

02:30:50 they know that that's what sells.

02:30:52 Ultimately, sex sells coming in the form of a female first.

02:30:57 Different for females, I would say, but then I have no need to sign to a label.

02:31:01 I'm ready to do it again.

02:31:03 That's what I meant by here's to do it all over again, but this time, I'm seeking distribution

02:31:08 and investments only.

02:31:10 I don't need a deal.

02:31:11 I don't need a label.

02:31:12 I can do it on my own.

02:31:14 Here's the next post.

02:31:17 In the gay community, you are frowned upon if you are too feminine.

02:31:19 It's weird, but I'm still kind.

02:31:23 Stand on it.

02:31:24 It's still true.

02:31:25 Yeah.

02:31:26 Do you feel like in the gay community, meaning the gay community frowns upon or the gay community?

02:31:34 Our own community frowns upon people who are feminine.

02:31:36 Too feminine, meaning, "Damn, you know when I said that, it's crazy.

02:31:40 I meant that for so many reasons.

02:31:42 I remember when I tweeted it.

02:31:43 It was crazy."

02:31:44 In the gay community, yes.

02:31:45 Yes.

02:31:46 Yes.

02:31:47 Yes.

02:31:48 Yes.

02:31:49 I think, and I came from a moment of rejection with this one guy that I was trying to pursue

02:31:55 in the moment.

02:31:56 He's so fine.

02:31:57 He's more masculine.

02:31:58 I've learned that I'm like, a lot of these masculine guys don't want a feminine bottom.

02:32:05 They want another masculine guy, even if they're a top.

02:32:08 I'm learning like-

02:32:09 I'll say that for me, that's ...

02:32:11 That's so strange to me.

02:32:14 It's rare you'll find a top that's openly gay in the gay community that wants someone

02:32:20 that's kind of like me.

02:32:21 Chances are, even though they're top, they want a beard.

02:32:24 They want to be masculine.

02:32:25 Even on the dating apps, no fems, no fats, no fems.

02:32:29 I understand.

02:32:30 That's what I meant by that.

02:32:31 I understand.

02:32:32 That's what it was.

02:32:33 In the dating world, it's always no fats, no fems.

02:32:35 I'm a femme.

02:32:36 My makeup artist over there is lesbian.

02:32:37 Did you know that?

02:32:38 No.

02:32:39 Hey, lesbo.

02:32:40 Her wife is butch.

02:32:41 You have a wife?

02:32:42 Wow.

02:32:43 I have a wife.

02:32:44 I have a wife.

02:32:45 Butch.

02:32:46 Wow.

02:32:47 Okay.

02:32:48 It makes sense.

02:32:49 What you're saying, when you see lipstick lesbians, those are usually white girls, right?

02:32:50 Yeah.

02:32:51 It's rare that you even see those anymore.

02:32:53 Black girls going to get a motorcycle driving ...

02:32:55 Anyway.

02:32:58 Okay.

02:32:59 Next one.

02:33:00 Jeffrey Star, we will never forget all those disgusting and racist slurs you have spoken.

02:33:06 You are to me possibly one of the most despicable gays I've ever seen.

02:33:10 All the money, makeup, and BBC can't wash all that white super-

02:33:13 Supremacy.

02:33:14 Supremacy.

02:33:15 I didn't want to ...

02:33:16 Yeah.

02:33:17 Stand on it.

02:33:18 Okay, let me just call this bitch out.

02:33:19 I mean, the cunt blocked me.

02:33:20 Oh, let me read the ... Let me just read the bottom.

02:33:21 Okay, let me just call this bitch out.

02:33:23 I mean, the cunt blocked me, so this should go unnoticed, right?

02:33:26 Anyways, remember how during slavery, how the masters would still fuck the black women

02:33:30 or men?

02:33:31 Well, that's exactly what this whore is doing with our men, using them for sex.

02:33:36 Wow.

02:33:37 Wow, Bobby, you are just unhinged.

02:33:41 Or you had a bump.

02:33:42 Something was going on.

02:33:43 Yeah, I don't think ... I don't even think that.

02:33:45 You know what?

02:33:46 As much as I would love to erase your shade, honey, I'm just keeping it.

02:33:50 Let's make a copy of it and let's laminate it, actually.

02:33:53 So at the Beyoncé concert here in LA, he sat behind us and he was rude to Rob, the

02:33:58 executive producer of the show.

02:34:00 Yeah.

02:34:01 I mean, it's like-

02:34:02 Are you being for real right now?

02:34:03 Swear to God.

02:34:04 First of all, you look like Candyman.

02:34:06 Death.

02:34:07 You look like Death, not even warmed over.

02:34:09 Like if you took a cold plate of Death out the refrigerator and it was still ice queen

02:34:13 looking fish, you look like that.

02:34:15 I didn't say anything to it because if it would have said something to me, it would

02:34:18 have got punched in its mouth.

02:34:20 It, exactly.

02:34:21 You know what she reminds me of?

02:34:22 You know, A Nightmare Before Christmas?

02:34:24 She just gives me that.

02:34:25 I don't even know what about it, but just A Nightmare Before Christmas.

02:34:29 When you think of Andre putting his thing in that-

02:34:31 No, no, I don't blame him.

02:34:33 Bitch is rich.

02:34:34 Oh, Andre told me all the stories about them, honey.

02:34:37 What?

02:34:38 She sent a private jet out for him to come.

02:34:41 First date it went on, it was like $30,000 she spent on him.

02:34:44 I mean, I would have fucked the fucking dragon too.

02:34:47 Oh, you did what you had to do, Andre.

02:34:50 It was actually funny because we actually joked about it.

02:34:52 I was like, "Go ahead and bring that bacon home to mama."

02:34:56 I can't.

02:34:57 Okay, here's the next one and the last one.

02:35:00 This new generation of fans suffers from delusional and childlike brain syndrome.

02:35:04 They only enjoy fighting or people they think they can fight.

02:35:06 That's it.

02:35:07 That's all that matters.

02:35:08 Then when it comes to the music, if you can't make a TikTok, then it's trash is weird.

02:35:12 Yeah, what was I talking about?

02:35:15 I've always ... Let me tell you, it's always a subliminal.

02:35:19 Something triggered me to say on April 25th, this new generation of fans suffers from delusional

02:35:22 and childlike brain syndrome.

02:35:23 They only enjoy fighting or people they think ... Okay, yep, I was talking about ... It's

02:35:27 true.

02:35:28 That's all that matters.

02:35:29 When it comes to music, if you can't make a TikTok, then it's ...

02:35:31 I mean, I stand by it.

02:35:32 It's true.

02:35:33 It's true.

02:35:34 It's true.

02:35:35 It's true.

02:35:36 It's true.

02:35:37 It's true.

02:35:38 I'm not kidding.

02:35:39 Remember, I come from ... It's called ... Bananas told me it's called something millennials.

02:35:40 Gen Z?

02:35:41 What is it called?

02:35:42 No.

02:35:43 Gentrical.

02:35:44 Something ...

02:35:45 Not gentrification.

02:35:46 No.

02:35:47 I almost want to ask Bananas right now what is it called.

02:35:48 He said ...

02:35:49 Don't worry about it.

02:35:50 Just go ahead.

02:35:51 Anyways, it's basically when you're born, you, us, when we're born, we're born with

02:35:52 a lot of ... I'm not kidding.

02:35:53 We're born with a lot of ... I'm not kidding.

02:35:54 We're born with a lot of ... I'm not kidding.

02:35:55 We're born with a lot of ... I'm not kidding.

02:35:56 We're born with a lot of ... I'm not kidding.

02:36:23 I would say this, I came from a time where I remember whenever someone, NSYNC, Spice

02:36:30 Girls, TLC, Samantha Mumba, I don't even remember her.

02:36:36 Anyways, these artists would drop records, Aaron Carter, they would drop records and

02:36:41 you would have to go into the stores, Specs Music, wherever, to buy the CDs for the sales

02:36:46 to count.

02:36:47 Trina, for example, she came in and she was platinum gold when album CDs were selling.

02:36:53 Then we transitioned where none of that matters.

02:36:56 CDs, who's buying a CD anymore?

02:36:59 It's all about downloading it, pre-saves.

02:37:01 And the downloads come from TikTok, so if the TikToks ...

02:37:04 And then it's like TikToks now is what's making ...

02:37:07 And TikTok is ruining music, right?

02:37:08 It is, it's weird.

02:37:09 Yeah, I stand on that too.

02:37:10 We have one more.

02:37:11 You said this.

02:37:12 I'm drunk, so let me gag some of y'all.

02:37:13 I've been fucked by one of my biggest crushes and the next day I felt disgusted.

02:37:14 Second day, I was like, "Oh, I'm not gonna do this.

02:37:15 I'm not gonna do this.

02:37:16 I'm not gonna do this."

02:37:17 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this.

02:37:18 I'm not gonna do this."

02:37:19 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this.

02:37:21 I'm not gonna do this."

02:37:22 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:37:23 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:37:24 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:37:25 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:37:26 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:37:27 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:37:28 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:37:29 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:37:30 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:37:31 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:37:32 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:37:33 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:37:34 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:37:35 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:37:36 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:37:37 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:37:58 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:38:27 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:38:28 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:38:29 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:38:30 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:38:31 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:38:32 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:38:33 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:38:34 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:38:35 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:38:36 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:38:37 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:38:38 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:38:39 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:38:40 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:38:41 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:38:42 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:39:10 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:39:11 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:39:12 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:39:13 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:39:14 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:39:15 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:39:16 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:39:17 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:39:18 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:39:19 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:39:20 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:39:21 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:39:22 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:39:23 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:39:24 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:39:25 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:39:50 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:39:57 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:40:06 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:40:12 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:40:19 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:40:24 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:40:30 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:40:36 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:40:43 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:40:44 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:40:45 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:40:46 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:40:47 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:40:48 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:40:49 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:40:50 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:40:51 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:40:52 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:40:53 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:40:54 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:40:55 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:40:56 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:40:57 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:41:24 It's always good when we link up.

02:41:26 I'm gonna hang out with Bobby tonight.

02:41:28 We're gonna go and put our best Trey Hunter outfit on.

02:41:30 Although, I am dating somebody now.

02:41:31 I'm talking to somebody, like seriously.

02:41:32 I see the picture of you.

02:41:34 You're happy.

02:41:35 Thank you for coming on the Jason Lee Show.

02:41:37 Make sure you pull up, support Bobby, not only on Love & Hip Hop Miami, but on House

02:41:42 of Villains and everything else that he does, the music, all that.

02:41:44 I do see you DJing in your best Paris Hilton-esque in Greece, somewhere in that world.

02:41:50 And me sitting in a Jets, like, "Jason, just come.

02:41:52 I got a Jeffrey, just come out.

02:41:54 I'm doing a set."

02:41:55 And you're like, "Are there boys?"

02:41:56 I'm like, "No, but you can bring boys.

02:41:57 You have 10 people on the Jet.

02:41:58 Just come on."

02:41:59 Well, Tasha Kay is watching this for sure, so let's say men, because she also likes to

02:42:00 say that the gays are pedophiles.

02:42:01 Tasha, can you do me a favor?

02:42:02 Have someone bury six feet worth of space in your backyard and just lay in it and have

02:42:03 your husband, who hates you so much, put the dirt on you and you just take a nap until

02:42:04 you have no more oxygen in your body.

02:42:05 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:42:06 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:42:07 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:42:08 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:42:09 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:42:36 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:42:47 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:42:58 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:43:24 I'm like, "I'm not gonna do this."

02:43:32 (upbeat music)

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