• 11 months ago
Michael Mann's 'Ferrari' is in UK cinemas now – but star Penelope Cruz was adamant one scene wouldn't be included. She and Adam Driver tell us how it became integral to the movie.

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00:00 or a competitor.
00:02 If you get into one of my cars
00:06 you get in the win.
00:12 Hi, I'm Alex from NME and today we're joined by the star trio of Michael Mann's Ferrari.
00:18 It's Penelope Cruz, Adam Driver and Shailene Woodley. How are we?
00:21 Good, how are you?
00:22 Good, how are you?
00:23 I'm going to jump in with a very NME question first, because we're a music magazine.
00:27 Okay.
00:28 What's your favourite song about a car?
00:31 I'll give you some hints if you can't think of any.
00:33 I've got one.
00:34 Oh, sorry, go ahead.
00:35 Go ahead.
00:36 I don't know if this really counts, it's about driving.
00:38 But my namesake's in it, so that's the first one that popped to mind.
00:41 It's I Want to Be Your Driver by Chuck Berry.
00:44 Yeah.
00:45 What is it about the song you love?
00:46 Well, because it says my name over and over again.
00:49 It says driver, so...
00:50 Baby Driver's another good one by Simon and Garfunkel.
00:54 I got a lot of Elf records with that single on it when I had kids.
00:58 Do you just have a driver playlist for yourself?
01:00 Yeah, we're just driver on it.
01:02 That's so good.
01:03 Songs to wake up to for me.
01:05 Songs about me.
01:06 Yeah, yeah.
01:08 Only Metallica and Baby Driver.
01:11 Alright, you guys, favourite song about cars or driving?
01:14 I like the song Drive.
01:15 Yeah?
01:16 I think it's by the cars, actually.
01:17 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:18 I love that song.
01:19 Enzo.
01:21 You're going broke.
01:23 How?
01:24 You spend more than you make.
01:27 So what do I do?
01:29 Win the mille-mille, Enzo.
01:31 Or you are out of business.
01:34 Enzo Ferrari obviously lived for racing and cars, thrill-seeking.
01:38 But what a lot of people might not know is that he was claustrophobic,
01:42 he never went on a plane, and he really hated elevators.
01:46 Did that make it more interesting or confusing for all of you?
01:50 For me, none of those things are in the movie,
01:54 but they're all the things that you kind of enter in your mind,
01:58 and if you have a way of expressing it, even abstractly, it's all information.
02:04 He also only used purple pen to write because he didn't want anyone to copy his signature.
02:09 He was a very superstitious person,
02:11 so to me that kind of rings of someone who's also paranoid and has something to protect.
02:17 So, again, we don't have a scene where we see that,
02:20 but it's nice to know that he walks into a room and his immediate default would be suspicion
02:25 and not someone who just immediately jumps without looking.
02:28 For me it was good to know all these things about him that I think had a lot in common
02:33 with the personality of Laura,
02:36 because I think she was also very controlling in her way as much as they allowed her to be.
02:41 I saw she would take care of the finances,
02:45 that she would be the one paying the people in the factory and controlling all of that,
02:50 and I saw the books, the numbers, the--how do you call it?
02:55 The records and the letters?
02:58 Yeah, and if you saw those records and then you saw Enzo's books
03:03 with the timing of every car in every second of every ride,
03:07 you realize they had so much in common
03:10 in terms of an obsessive nature that they put where they could to stay healthy.
03:18 So it made a lot of sense, you know,
03:21 like somebody that was creating that would have that kind of personality behind.
03:27 And it doesn't look like that, but in a way I think they were very, very similar.
03:32 And arguing, they had that in common. They liked arguing by the looks of it.
03:35 Yeah, I think when they initially started there was a fire there that,
03:39 in a way, it is how they connect now.
03:42 And we do get a sense of who they were for a minute probably, I think,
03:46 or maybe two minutes, when they make love.
03:50 But they have so much unresolved grief that it's kind of--
03:55 but it wasn't to say that they still didn't love each other in some sense.
04:00 It just became more business.
04:03 But even then they were very loyal to each other.
04:08 I think my favorite scene in the movie is where Lina almost shoots Enzo.
04:13 Can you tell me a bit about filming that scene?
04:16 I had a lot of resistance to that scene,
04:19 and I actually tried to convince Michael to do a version without the gun.
04:23 Remember how worried I was?
04:25 I thought--it just put me in a very vulnerable spot.
04:31 And I don't want to speak for you, but I also think that was for you,
04:35 for the reaction of something so big.
04:37 Like if it was normal in their daily life,
04:41 because they all behave like, "Oh, it's not the first time that she reacts like that
04:45 with a gun in her hand."
04:47 But Michael was right.
04:49 He said, "No, no, we don't need the other version because this is going to work."
04:52 I just had fear of it not working,
04:55 and I was very happy that he pushed us.
04:58 Because it's a presentation of characters that is very like, "What is this?
05:03 What are these people doing?"
05:05 Well, it's a risk, but I think Michael made it work
05:08 in the way that he directed us and in the way that he edited the scene.
05:12 I suppose in terms of effects, I'm also keen to know how it worked.
05:16 Was there a sort of--did it explode in the wall behind you?
05:20 No, actually, the hole was CGI.
05:22 So the shot was by a camera--I think even the gun was--the bang was CGI.
05:29 You had to react to nothing.
05:31 Right, right, right, right.
05:33 Which is not far off from what--
05:35 [laughter]
05:36 No, I'm kidding.
05:37 But also what Penelope's not saying is that it could be a very obvious movie moment,
05:41 where it feels very exterior, but because of the way she played it,
05:46 I think that's why it worked.
05:48 Because of the way you played it, because it was not easier to have to react to that.
05:53 It was not easier than what I had to do.
05:56 But I just mean the moment of actually having someone who starts shooting at someone
06:02 and then keeping that consistent with the character.
06:04 It's very big.
06:06 It could have been a moment that didn't work because she's playing.
06:10 It worked.
06:12 Yeah.
06:13 Your reaction is definitely going to be a meme, I think.
06:16 I loved it so much.
06:18 Okay.
06:19 Why, why?
06:21 Yeah, it is.
06:22 Yeah, that's exactly why I'm here.
06:24 For a meme factory.
06:26 Thanks so much for chatting to me, guys.
06:28 I really loved the film.
06:29 Thank you.
06:30 Oh, good.
06:31 Thank you very much.
06:32 Two objects cannot occupy the same point in space
06:36 at the same moment in time.
06:39 When so?
06:43 Go beat the hell out of them.
06:47 [CREATED BY J.P. DEVITO]
06:51 [BLANK_AUDIO]

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