Mulk Main Dehshatgardi aik Bar phir Sir Uthanay Lagi | Ihsanullah Tipu Mehsud Analysis
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Mulk Main Dehshatgardi aik Bar phir Sir Uthanay Lagi | Ihsanullah Tipu Mehsud Analysis
Mulk Main Dehshatgardi aik Bar phir Sir Uthanay Lagi | Ihsanullah Tipu Mehsud Analysis
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00:00 The biggest threat in the speech in the Senate was that the wave of terrorism is rising again,
00:07 so it would not be appropriate to hold an election now.
00:09 This year, we saw that the incidents before and during the election campaigning have increased.
00:15 Today, if we look at it, in Islamabad, unknown motorcycle riders shot down the Central Deputy General of the Sunni Ulma Council,
00:23 Secretary of State Maulana Masood Urreman Usmani.
00:26 Two days ago, in Miran Shah, during the election campaign, the car of Chairman Mohsin Dawar of the National Democratic Movement was fired.
00:32 On 14 September 2023, there is a blast in Mastung.
00:35 11 people are injured, including JAI Rehnaumah Hafiz Abdullah.
00:38 On 30 July 2023, there is a blast in Bajor at the JAI Workers Convention.
00:42 54 people are killed.
00:44 According to a recent report by the Pak Institute for Peace Studies,
00:47 in comparison to the year 2022, in the incidents of terrorism in 2023, 17% increase has been seen.
00:52 And in this, we see how much has increased in the terrorist attacks.
00:56 The number of terrorist attacks has been a significant loss.
00:59 65% has been increased.
01:01 Apart from this, the most affected provinces are Khairul Pakhtunkhwa and Balochistan.
01:05 And if we talk about this matter, then during the election,
01:09 how much truth is there in such threats?
01:13 We will tell you.
01:14 With us, we have Ishanullah Tipu Masood, Senior Journalist, Editor-in-chief of Taziyaqar,
01:18 and the news of Furasan Diary.
01:20 First of all, if we start with today's incident,
01:23 Maulana Masood-ur-Rehman Usmani Sahib,
01:26 I was watching your tweets on this issue.
01:29 Why was he targeted?
01:31 And your opinion is that the fault line is already there,
01:35 it has not been fixed, it will be further exploited.
01:39 Why? How?
01:41 Exactly, Maulana Masood-ur-Rehman,
01:43 the Safa Sahaba, which is now banned, and the Ahl-e-Sunnah wal-Jamaat, which is also banned,
01:48 their senior and central leaders, and the translators of this organization,
01:53 they have a history of being targeted by Shia and Sunni sectarians.
01:58 So, Shia and Sunni scholars were targeted.
02:02 So, in that regard, because the militancy is already there in Khairul Pakhtunkhwa and Balochistan,
02:07 so the militant groups are exploiting the local political and social grievances.
02:13 So, I think, this incident today, I don't know who attacked it,
02:18 but definitely the jihadi groups, the encrypted channels,
02:22 they have already started accusing our neighboring country that they are behind this.
02:29 So, this is why the sectarian,
02:32 because this time, in fact, for a long time, the sectarian militancy was almost over.
02:39 We were not seeing those attacks in Balochistan and here, and in other countries as well.
02:44 But because of such incidents, I think the jihadi elements can exploit this,
02:49 that the country should also move towards sectarian conflict.
02:52 Because in the past, we have suffered a lot.
02:54 The Shia-Sunni conflict was in the whole country.
02:57 80s, 90s, I remember, even as a child.
02:59 Okay, let's move a little further.
03:01 Today, I heard speeches in my senate, and everyone's main concern was that
03:04 at this time, it is not safe, there is no air to hold elections in Khairul Pakhtunkhwa and Balochistan.
03:08 There is no security.
03:10 Dawar is also under attack, Maulana's Jamaat is also under attack.
03:14 Are these really such circumstances that elections cannot be held?
03:17 Please compare with 2008-2013 and tell me.
03:20 Are these worse than that?
03:23 No, not at all.
03:25 There are attacks, the situation is not good, there are very serious concerns about security,
03:28 especially in two provinces.
03:30 And there are daily attacks as well.
03:32 But these are not large-scale attacks.
03:34 In the recent past, the attack in Rabwan, where 24 security forces were martyred,
03:39 and then the attack in Tank,
03:41 these attacks are happening.
03:43 But the situation is not as bad as in the 2013 election or 2008.
03:47 At that time, there were attacks on a daily basis,
03:51 targeted killings, bomb blasts, IED attacks.
03:55 So I think the situation is not so bad that you are forced to hold elections.
04:01 Yes, there is one party that is on their target list,
04:04 that is Maulana Fuzri Rehman's party, and that is Daesh Khurasan's party.
04:07 There have been attacks on them.
04:09 You mentioned in the intro that the attack in Bajaud,
04:11 it happened on Hafiz Hamdullah,
04:13 and yesterday also, an MPA candidate was attacked in Bajaud.
04:16 So they are in danger.
04:18 But the overall situation is not like that.
04:20 My assessment is that you should hold elections.
04:24 The attack on Mohsen Dawar was very dangerous.
04:26 There were many people saved.
04:28 They were bulletproof, so they were saved.
04:31 Otherwise, it was a very severe attack.
04:33 So I think these are individual acts.
04:36 This happened before as well.
04:38 But holding elections, because of them, I think...
04:41 In 2008, the entire parties were targeted.
04:44 People's Party campaign was not allowed.
04:46 ANP campaign was not allowed.
04:48 The Billore family was carrying a lot of dead bodies at that time.
04:50 In 2013, we saw that the entire parties were on their target list.
04:54 Now, it is the time for the JYF.
04:56 Are the People's Party, PTI, ANP campaigning in the areas?
05:00 Yes, the campaigns are not being carried out in the areas.
05:03 Especially the central leadership is missing from there.
05:06 It is not doing big rallies.
05:08 In general elections, the central leadership goes there,
05:11 and does rallies all over the country.
05:13 But this time, we are not seeing that.
05:15 And in this regard, Maulana's concerns are genuine.
05:19 He is in danger.
05:20 And not only that he is claiming,
05:22 but the security agencies and district administrations are issuing threat alerts to him.
05:27 Maulana Asad, who is his son, is contesting with his leg.
05:30 He has also received it recently.
05:32 So, he is in danger.
05:33 But the political parties, according to our assessments,
05:36 are not being considered as a threat.
05:39 Yes, they can be an individual target.
05:41 But as a whole, the way they targeted ANP,
05:44 every leader of their party was targeted.
05:46 Or the People's Party, their top leadership,
05:48 Benazir Bhutto was also martyred.
05:51 So, we are not seeing that.
05:53 That there is an organized campaign against them, against the political parties.
05:57 We have also read the report of the Pakistan Institute for Peace Studies.
06:01 17% increase in terrorism.
06:03 And we were seeing 65% increase in the number of casualties since last year.
06:06 Today's speech, because for me, the context is important,
06:10 that the representatives are talking about
06:12 when the security and peace situation is better,
06:15 then elections can be held.
06:17 So, in the next 4, 6, 8 months,
06:21 do you think that the situation will stabilize by then?
06:24 And then we can hold the elections.
06:26 No, I think it is difficult.
06:28 Because in 2023, the militant build-up,
06:31 all the groups of Pakistan or Taliban,
06:34 or from Daesh or Ahsan, or even below,
06:36 the separatist militant groups,
06:38 their build-up is the same in 2024.
06:40 That is their intensity.
06:42 In fact, in 2024, there is a threat that they will grow further.
06:45 So, I don't think that is the case.
06:47 So, if we make it a framework,
06:49 then I think we will have to wait for a year or two for the elections.
06:53 And secondly, the absence of an elected government,
06:57 and the absence of a proper counter-militancy or terrorism policy,
07:02 And the implemented by the elected government.
07:04 The serious issues with Afghanistan will be handled by the elected government.
07:08 Because the officials and seniors of Afghanistan are saying the same thing.
07:11 That if a permanent government comes here,
07:15 then we will negotiate with it,
07:17 whether it is in the context of TTP, Daesh or Ahsan, or other issues.
07:20 So, I think it is very important to have an elected government.
07:23 So that there are steps taken in the context of a wave of militancy from the government.
07:28 Maulana Fazlur Rahman's party is under attack.
07:30 Because those who do not understand the nuances of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and Balochistan,
07:34 do not know the details of political affairs and militancy there,
07:37 Why does Maulana Fazlur Rahman face these challenges in this election and in the last year and a half?
07:43 From the point of view of Daesh and Ahsan.
07:45 Actually, from the point of view of Daesh and Ahsan.
07:47 Because their ideology completely rejects the Republic, Constitution, Parliament.
07:52 So, one of the big reasons is that there is a ideological difference.
07:55 The ideological difference is with Maulana,
07:57 because he believes in the Constitution and in democracy,
08:00 so he considers it out of the Islamic sphere according to his own opinion.
08:03 His entire literature is based on this.
08:05 Secondly, his background is that in the past,
08:08 when there used to be a stronghold of Daesh and Ahsan,
08:11 in the province of Afghanistan, Kunar or Nangarhar,
08:15 Maulana's people issued fatwas in favor of the Afghan Taliban.
08:20 That the Afghan Taliban who are fighting against Daesh are absolutely legitimate and should fight against them.
08:25 So, these are two reasons.
08:26 One is personal rivalry with them,
08:28 and the other is personal enmity with Daesh and Ahsan.
08:30 And one is that they are continuously targeting them because of the Republic.
08:34 In the past, TTP had also targeted Maulana's people.
08:37 But now, with the new manifesto of TTP, which is from 2022,
08:41 they have decided that they will not target political parties anymore.
08:44 So, they have become targets of Daesh and Ahsan.
08:47 Right. Thank you very much.