Clay Waterman vs Kareem Hackett (20-09-2023) Full Fight
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00:00 [Bell dings]
00:02 [Indistinct conversations]
00:05 You understand me? Okay, that's enough.
00:07 Go on.
00:10 Let's go. Let's go.
00:11 Clay "The Weapon" Waterman,
00:13 Kareem "Supreme" Hackett.
00:17 Light heavyweight matchup for the vacant
00:20 WBA Intercontinental Light Heavyweight belt.
00:23 [Bell dings]
00:25 Here we go! It's time to fight.
00:29 White and gold trunks for the Australian,
00:32 the Southpaw, purple and black trunks,
00:35 Kareem Hackett from Toronto, Ontario, Canada,
00:39 but he has never fought in Canada.
00:42 He fights tonight for the first time here on ProBoxTV.
00:47 Long, wide stance for Hackett.
00:51 [Indistinct shouting]
00:53 You can see Waterman going to try to close that gap right away,
00:58 and Hackett on that back foot.
01:00 Southpaw looking to set up those counters.
01:03 Interesting clashing styles here.
01:04 You can see that aggressive body language already by Waterman.
01:08 Nice little pot shot there by Hackett.
01:10 [Indistinct shouting]
01:14 Hackett very driven, a hard worker.
01:19 Of all the qualities in which were talked about pre-fight,
01:24 Julian Chawa's manager said his fight IQ
01:28 is what really separates him from the rest.
01:31 11-0 against 11-0.
01:33 [Indistinct shouting]
01:36 Aggressive start for Waterman.
01:48 Hackett looking for the body.
01:50 Yeah, Hackett trying to pick his shots,
01:52 trying to use that probing lead hand,
01:55 which I think is smart, you know,
01:56 is force Waterman to get by it.
01:57 And if you keep Waterman on the end of that,
01:59 even if he's coming forward, you can keep him on the end
02:01 of some sharp punches with the left hand.
02:03 Waterman's going to have to close that gap a little better.
02:05 He's got to get out of that middle range,
02:08 and he's going to be effective,
02:09 because right at that middle range
02:10 is where Hackett can use that probing shot
02:13 to keep him at a middle-range distance
02:15 so he can get enough leverage on the left hands.
02:18 That's what Waterman wants to do there,
02:19 using a double right hand to get inside.
02:21 That was smart.
02:23 Round one picking up here.
02:27 Two unbeatens in our co-main event tonight.
02:30 [Indistinct shouting]
02:33 Hackett to the body.
02:36 7-inch reach advantage.
02:42 Waterman, a self-described competitive and feisty kid.
02:49 [Indistinct shouting]
02:52 He loves to utilize the jab.
02:57 Sometimes it's tricky to jab on those southpaws,
03:02 but you still want to use that jab.
03:05 Waterman trying to press his way in,
03:07 not really using that jab,
03:08 but he's using a double right hand
03:10 to a pretty good effectiveness.
03:13 [Indistinct shouting]
03:19 7-inch reach advantage.
03:22 [Bell rings]
03:25 [Cheering]
03:28 [Indistinct chatter]
03:31 [Cheering]
03:44 [Indistinct shouting]
03:47 Klay's brother, Ty Waterman, in his corner,
04:09 and John Scully from the Arcter Better Be Off Camp
04:12 has been in the crowd as well.
04:16 Waterman has spent a lot of time in Canada
04:21 sparring with Arcter Better Be Off.
04:24 He said, and I quote, "Better Be Off is the man."
04:28 Round number two.
04:30 Klay Waterman, the Aussie in the white and gold trunks,
04:34 purple and black trunks for Kareem Hackett.
04:37 [Indistinct chatter]
04:42 Has had multiple...
04:45 with Zerto Ramirez,
04:47 who held the Super Middleweight title from 2016 to 2019.
04:54 Nice uppercut scored by Hackett.
04:57 [Indistinct chatter]
05:00 Zerto, the first boxer from Mexico
05:04 to win a major world title in that weight class.
05:09 Hackett considers him a teammate.
05:12 Good body shot there.
05:14 [Indistinct chatter]
05:17 Like you mentioned, the first round champ,
05:19 we have a really interesting clash of styles here.
05:21 Both men, you know what each guy wants to do,
05:23 which is who can do it.
05:24 Right now, Hackett's having to do a really good job
05:26 staying on the outside, staying long,
05:29 using that reach and that southpaw position
05:32 to keep Waterman on the outside of his shots.
05:34 [Indistinct chatter]
05:39 Waterman, the Australian,
05:42 has trained with Beterbiev in Canada.
05:44 The Canadian has never fought in his home country.
05:48 This tonight is his sixth fight in the U.S.,
05:50 five in Mexico, one in Ecuador,
05:53 and coming on very strong here in round two.
05:56 Yeah, he's looking good right now.
05:58 Yeah, it's gonna-- the onus is on Waterman
06:01 to keep that pressure on.
06:02 He ends up staying in that middle range.
06:05 Hackett is gonna be able to pick him apart.
06:08 I think in Hackett's corner, he's also got Julian Chua.
06:10 Yeah, he does.
06:11 Yep, I just did not know if I recognized Julian
06:13 with that new hairdo.
06:14 I was looking at--
06:16 So I know both trainers here,
06:17 'cause I've known Scoglio a long time as well in this fight.
06:20 Brickhouse Boxing Club in L.A.
06:24 You got excellent trainers in both corners tonight.
06:26 Yeah.
06:28 Yeah, I didn't recognize Julian with that new hairdo.
06:30 Well, whenever I don't see you in years, though,
06:32 I'm always liable not to recognize.
06:35 And you got, you know, guys in here,
06:37 the amateurs who are now grandfathers, Paul.
06:39 Yeah.
06:40 It's like a reunion for you.
06:41 Oof. Don't remind me.
06:43 [ Laughs ]
06:45 Oh.
06:46 Nice pop shot there from Hackett.
06:49 Right down the middle.
06:51 And Waterman carries those hands a little bit low.
06:55 Hackett took advantage.
06:57 He also doesn't give you a lot of head movement on the way in.
06:59 He's kind of trying to force his way in,
07:00 but there's not a lot of head movement there.
07:02 Oh!
07:03 Beautiful body shot there from Hackett.
07:05 Nice shuttle punch down to the solar plexus.
07:07 That was a really nasty shot.
07:08 And Waterman's gonna have to get that head movement rhythm
07:12 not just for defensive purposes,
07:13 but also to be a little bit deceptive on his attack,
07:15 because otherwise, you know,
07:17 Hackett is gonna be able to anticipate his attack
07:19 a little too much.
07:20 That's what he's starting to do.
07:21 That's why you're starting to see those little counter body shots
07:23 landed by Hackett.
07:24 Nice, round, smooth boxing by Hackett.
07:26 Yeah, Hackett's looking very comfortable.
07:28 And Chua gives him that nod on the way in.
07:31 Like, "Yeah, I like what I saw."
07:33 [ Indistinct shouting ]
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07:41 And we see that pop, straight left hand
07:42 down the middle from Hackett.
07:45 And again, Champ, like you said,
07:46 Waterman is hanging out in that middle distance,
07:48 and he's getting picked apart by Hackett,
07:50 who's being real slick and picking his punches really well.
07:52 And I'll tell you what the cool thing about that timing
07:54 was there by Hackett.
07:55 Waterman had had decent success with that double right hand.
07:58 Right there, he's trying to throw a double right hand.
07:59 He gets caught between right hands with the body shot.
08:02 Good timing shot by Hackett.
08:05 And Waterman needs to be more explosive
08:06 to close that distance.
08:08 He's starting to slow already.
08:09 And also more deceptive.
08:12 If he does it off the head movement,
08:13 see how people think head movement is just for defense?
08:16 But head movement is also for your attack as well,
08:18 because it kind of gives you that deceptive rhythm,
08:22 and all of a sudden, you fire off that rhythm.
08:23 And there's nothing there by Waterman.
08:26 And in our fighter interviews, as I mentioned before,
08:28 Julian said of all the attributes
08:31 that Kareem brings into the boxing ring,
08:34 that high fight IQ is one of them.
08:36 And you saw him utilize some great technique
08:39 and some great strategy in round number two.
08:42 Round three.
08:43 Very, very slick tonight.
08:45 You don't see a lot of technical guys from Australia.
08:48 It's weird. They're all, like, super tough guys.
08:51 That's why I can appreciate Ken Zhu,
08:53 because he's actually technical.
08:54 Most of those guys in Australia, all my life,
08:57 I mean, going back to Jeff Fennec and stuff,
08:59 they're just rugged, tough, tough, sturdy guys.
09:02 So they have to be in greatly conditioned,
09:04 and they have to really go through a lot of punishment
09:06 to be successful.
09:07 And Waterman's gonna have to force his way in here.
09:09 Otherwise, Hackett's gonna grow in confidence,
09:11 and it's gonna get even more difficult.
09:12 But Waterman's already in a place
09:13 where he needs to make a big change,
09:14 because he's taken a lot of leather on the way in.
09:18 And even when he does get in, he's not getting any work done.
09:23 Both men 11-0.
09:27 Waterman coming off a unanimous decision victory in June
09:33 and a fifth-round knockout victory for Hackett in May.
09:37 Waterman learned to keep that elbow a little tight
09:39 on that counter body shot.
09:41 I think he might have felt one or two of them earlier,
09:42 because there, Hackett looked through that counter,
09:44 and Waterman had the elbow tucked.
09:46 And one of the only ones left hand to the body.
09:50 Remember, that's the liver side.
09:52 I mean, it's coming from the back hand,
09:54 because Hackett's a southpaw.
09:56 Those are not gonna tickle if they keep getting through.
10:00 Hackett mixes up that left hand really nice.
10:02 Pops it straight.
10:03 Doesn't have a lot of fat on the punch.
10:04 Shows it right down the middle.
10:06 It's one of those punches where the glove just gets bigger
10:07 until it hits you.
10:09 Waterman's gonna have to be a little bit more decisive.
10:12 He's not giving that rhythm.
10:13 Maybe some feints.
10:14 Maybe a change of look.
10:15 Something.
10:17 Brick hands here, and Hackett in the corner.
10:21 And a good flurry for the weapon, Clay Waterman.
10:24 Left hand didn't get through there.
10:25 Yeah, not a lot got through.
10:28 So he's gotta keep working off of that.
10:30 Again, it's a little bit of a confidence build
10:31 that you can get through, but you've gotta be more consistent,
10:34 'cause nothing really got through there to bother Hackett.
10:36 Yeah, just one good left hook upstairs,
10:38 but that was about it.
10:41 Again to the body.
10:44 Waterman says no, which means it probably hurt.
10:48 Adjusting to the distance well there.
10:50 30 seconds.
10:53 30 seconds on the clock, round number three.
10:56 Mike Colbert, the Magic Man,
10:57 the former two-time world champion,
10:58 Paulie Malignaggi, former world champion,
11:01 Chris Algieri, here on a Wednesday night on ProBox TV.
11:07 You got two guys, 11 and 0, going for it.
11:08 What's more ProBox TV than that?
11:11 Wow, and another hard shot.
11:14 Another good round for Kareem Hackett.
11:18 [ Indistinct shouting ]
11:20 [ Bell rings ]
11:25 That's the problem Waterman's having.
11:27 He closed the gap, and he's smothered himself.
11:29 So he's gotta try to rush in, but also leave enough space
11:31 to have that punching distance.
11:33 [ Indistinct shouting ]
11:35 [ Whistle blows ]
11:37 [ Indistinct shouting ]
11:40 [ Whistle blows ]
11:42 [ Indistinct shouting ]
11:44 Good. The only --
11:45 Everything is damn near perfect.
11:47 The only thing that I could be --
11:48 If I'm being pessimistic...
11:50 [ Indistinct shouting ]
11:52 [ Whistle blows ]
11:54 [ Cheers and applause ]
11:56 See, they're going off balance there, as Waterman.
11:59 Gets a little frustrated as he's showing the gloves.
12:01 Like, "What? You got nothing there."
12:02 Here's where Waterman actually gets close.
12:04 But as you can see, nothing really --
12:05 There's a good little left hook there.
12:07 Forces the gloves up to come up.
12:09 Gloves have come up from Hackett.
12:12 That was the body shot...
12:15 from Hackett, as well.
12:17 [ Indistinct shouting ]
12:19 It was a good moment Waterman had,
12:20 but again, it's gotta be consistent.
12:23 Boom. [ Bell dings ]
12:24 [ Indistinct shouting ]
12:27 This fight for the vacant WBA,
12:29 Intercontinental Light Heavyweight title,
12:31 continues round 4.
12:33 Hackett, the southpaw in the purple and black trunks,
12:35 white and gold, for Clay Waterman.
12:38 Both men 11-0.
12:40 [ Indistinct shouting ]
12:42 [ Bell dings ]
12:44 [ Indistinct shouting ]
12:46 [ Bell dings ]
12:48 [ Indistinct shouting ]
12:51 159 amateur fights for Clay Waterman all around the world --
12:57 Germany, Poland, China, Serbia.
13:00 [ Indistinct shouting ]
13:01 From Logan City, Australia.
13:04 Hackett has a nice rhythm going.
13:06 Upstairs, downstairs, changing looks,
13:08 giving little feints, using his legs to change the distance.
13:12 Waterman's on one gear, and that one gear's not working,
13:15 so he's -- and he's not really adjusting, either.
13:18 Lends the occasional good shot there,
13:20 but the consistency just not there.
13:22 [ Indistinct shouting ]
13:24 It's few and far between, and it's just not explosive enough.
13:27 The punches aren't heavy enough,
13:28 and that landing clean enough.
13:30 Hackett's just having his way.
13:32 I really like what I'm seeing from him.
13:34 [ Indistinct shouting ]
13:36 [ Indistinct shouting ]
13:38 [ Indistinct shouting ]
13:41 Hackett now training in Los Angeles.
13:43 [ Indistinct shouting ]
13:46 Just missed with that left hand.
13:48 [ Indistinct shouting ]
13:51 And, yes, his first name is Kareem
13:53 because both his mom and dad, huge Kareem Abdul-Jabbar fans.
13:59 [ Indistinct shouting ]
14:00 And their son is a heck of a boxer.
14:03 Good moments here for Waterman.
14:04 Got double left hook.
14:06 Moved Hackett a little bit.
14:08 Now Waterman actually defending a little better.
14:10 Let's see if he can close that gap a little more.
14:12 [ Indistinct shouting ]
14:15 [ Indistinct shouting ]
14:18 See, these are the moments right here that he just can't have.
14:20 You can't have these middle-range moments
14:22 where you're doing nothing,
14:23 and you're hanging around in middle range.
14:24 He's gonna give Hackett a chance to get back into a rhythm,
14:27 and there's a good little shot to the body by Hackett.
14:30 Yeah, every time Hackett's allowed to reset,
14:32 he takes control once again.
14:36 And it's up to Waterman to be cognizant of that.
14:38 Well, Waterman's got to go for broke.
14:39 He's got to push the pace.
14:41 He's got to put leather on him
14:43 'cause if he stays on the outside
14:44 or in that middle distance, he's getting picked apart.
14:47 Hackett is just too slick.
14:49 Oh, good body shot.
14:52 When Waterman does attack,
14:55 there is a high level of explosiveness.
14:59 He just needs those shots to land.
15:02 He needs to do it more often.
15:03 I think he needs to stop letting Hackett rest.
15:07 Cut the ring off and keep firing.
15:09 Yeah, the one issue that Waterman has,
15:10 and he's not having a bad round here,
15:11 but the issue he has is he's either at zero
15:13 or he's at 100.
15:14 He doesn't have anything in the middle.
15:16 [ Indistinct shouting ]
15:18 [ Shouting continues ]
15:20 [ Indistinct shouting ]
15:22 [ Indistinct shouting ]
15:24 [ Bell rings ]
15:25 And the co-main event continues.
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16:14 [ Whistle blows ]
16:17 This is your night.
16:20 Hackett's relationship with Zerno Ramirez, outstanding.
16:25 Working together for a long time
16:28 and generally close to the same weight.
16:31 Waterman in the white and gold,
16:33 Hackett in the purple and black.
16:36 Talked about the many times that Clay Waterman
16:40 has worked with Archer Beterbea.
16:42 [ Indistinct shouting ]
16:44 [ Indistinct shouting ]
16:46 You can see how Waterman would be a good sparring partner
16:49 because he's durable, not chaining.
16:53 He's got probably good chain, physically strong,
16:55 gives you that --
16:56 will probably give you that consistent work.
16:58 [ Indistinct shouting ]
17:00 I'm sure he is feeling the shots from Kareem Hackett,
17:05 but he was asked, like,
17:06 "How hard does Beterbea hit me in sparring?"
17:10 And he said, "I don't think anyone punches harder than him."
17:12 Yeah, I've heard, yeah, stories about his sparring,
17:15 and it's legendary.
17:17 Soft-spoken, very humble.
17:20 Waterman called it the best experience of his life.
17:22 Good head movement there, Paulie.
17:24 Yeah, yeah. Just got to close that range off of it.
17:26 Nice.
17:28 He's got little spots where he's closed the gap,
17:29 and he does good work.
17:31 There's more good work for Waterman.
17:33 Again, let's see off the break what he does here.
17:35 This is where he's been going wrong, right?
17:36 Off the break, he goes back into that first gear
17:40 and allows Hackett to have that middle range,
17:42 and he's got to have less of that and more of this here.
17:46 [ Indistinct shouting ]
17:48 Nice little slip move by Hackett.
17:50 Waterman, 8 of his 11 wins by knockout.
17:53 Hackett, 6 of his 11 wins by knockout.
17:58 Yeah, I mean, with Waterman, you can see the path to victory.
18:00 You can see what he needs to do.
18:02 He just needs to do more of it.
18:04 Yeah, it's nice, clever work there by Hackett,
18:08 you know, overall in the fight.
18:10 You know, he's got kind of an idea of what he wants to do.
18:13 He knows how to make it happen,
18:15 and he doesn't come out of his shell,
18:17 and he mixes his shots, you know, pretty well.
18:19 Decently well.
18:20 It goes down to the body, goes down to the head.
18:22 Especially that left hand. Yeah.
18:23 He'll give you feints, something I think Waterman
18:25 should be doing, but in reality,
18:27 it's been pretty much only Hackett
18:28 who's giving you the feints.
18:32 Waterman goes by the nickname "The Weapon."
18:35 When our lead Spanish broadcaster,
18:38 Ricardo Sellas, asked him during the fighter interview,
18:41 "Which one is the weapon, left or right?"
18:43 He said, "Both."
18:46 So let's see what he utilizes here.
18:48 After a couple of very strong rounds for Hackett.
18:51 Waterman, the more energetic fighter in this round 5.
19:01 He has been stepping up.
19:03 Whoa!
19:04 Okay? You okay?
19:06 Waterman has been stepping up the intensity
19:08 of the last two rounds.
19:09 Final seconds of the round.
19:18 In the last two rounds, it could be one of those fights
19:20 where it's what you like.
19:21 You know, a lot of times, the judges,
19:22 especially down here, I notice they give more credit
19:26 to the pressure.
19:27 So many different subjects.
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19:43 He's a world-class fighter.
19:45 I'm gonna disagree.
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19:58 I like the look in sparring session, Chris.
20:02 One of the eight times you graduated
20:04 with some type of honor, right?
20:06 Yeah. [ Laughs ]
20:07 Yeah, we have a good time in sparring sessions.
20:13 Set for round number 6.
20:16 This is the first time Kareem Hackett
20:21 has been scheduled for 10 rounds.
20:24 Scheduled for eight rounds just one time,
20:27 and he did go the distance in that fight.
20:30 Purple and black for Kareem Hackett.
20:35 White and gold for the Aussie, Clay Waterman.
20:39 Left hand connects once,
20:41 and then just grazed the chin of Waterman the second time.
20:45 There's those quick hands again, and the explosiveness.
20:49 Hackett has to be careful not to put himself out of position
20:51 when he makes a defensive move,
20:52 'cause that's what Waterman's looking for.
20:54 Waterman's looking for an over-commitment on defense.
20:56 Good body shot there.
20:57 Good timing shot by Hackett.
20:58 Go back. Go back.
20:59 Waterman's looking for an over-commitment
21:00 on defense on the part of Hackett
21:02 so he can hit him while he's out of position.
21:04 Two in a row, body shots.
21:06 That's one way to stem the flow of someone's attack.
21:09 Bang that body.
21:11 Oh, again.
21:12 You would think Waterman would faint
21:14 at least at a certain point,
21:15 knowing that Hackett's looking for the same thing.
21:17 I mean, reaction, throw that body shot.
21:18 You would think there'd be a faint
21:19 at least after three in a row.
21:23 I haven't seen a faint yet from Waterman.
21:24 No. Head movement there is a little slight faint,
21:27 but nothing enough that it's actually gonna be noticeable
21:31 to work on Hackett.
21:32 Yeah, but a faint, you gotta sell it.
21:34 You gotta sell it enough that your opponent's
21:36 actually gonna have a reaction.
21:38 Oh, again, you can hear that one.
21:42 That was a nice sweeping, ripping body shot.
21:45 Five wins in 2022.
21:48 Tonight, the third fight here in 2023 for Clay Waterman.
21:53 Nice boxing this round for Hackett.
21:56 I gotta give those Australians credit, though.
21:58 I mean, Waterman is in shape.
22:00 Yeah.
22:01 Continuously bringing that pressure.
22:02 Sometimes you like to see him up the tempo of that pressure,
22:05 but he's been coming forward the whole fight.
22:07 And Paulie Waterman, the first Australian
22:09 to win an amateur world championship.
22:13 He did so back in 2011.
22:16 At what age?
22:18 Bronze medalist at the 2018 Commonwealth Games.
22:22 Just missed the opportunity to represent Australia
22:26 at the 2020 Olympic Games.
22:30 You know, Goldie, he said both of his hands are the weapons,
22:32 but that left hook, that thing is screaming when he throws it.
22:35 I think that's the best weapon of Waterman so far
22:38 that I've seen.
22:40 Yeah, it's been sharp when he's gotten close
22:41 and the game of the game and landed it.
22:42 That's been the shot that's probably--
22:44 with the left hands on both guys.
22:46 I mean, Hackett's left hand to the body has been good.
22:49 It's been the variation of Hackett's left hand
22:51 and the veracity of the left hand from Waterman.
22:55 He's got a real sharp left hook.
22:56 There it is again.
22:59 He's got to sell it a little better, like you said, Jake.
23:02 Hackett feeling himself because he's got Waterman missing.
23:07 Waterman saying, "Hey, don't kill him.
23:08 Keep running around."
23:10 Is it just me or is Hackett really big for this weight class?
23:14 Yeah, it's not just you. He's really big.
23:16 He is tall and long and thick.
23:18 I don't know, man. I just think Waterman's small
23:20 for the weight class.
23:21 That's what I was trying to figure out.
23:22 This is light heavyweight.
23:23 Six, two and a half.
23:25 Oh!
23:26 79-inch reach for Kareem Hackett.
23:30 That was one of those take-outs where you--
23:31 You can't take that one shot.
23:33 Take that to the corner with you, buddy.
23:34 Body's getting punished in this matchup.
23:41 Very smart.
23:42 I was borderline there, actually.
23:43 You know, and this was when Waterman was coming on.
23:47 Hackett was-- He had a little bit of success,
23:50 and he was like, "All right, let me touch that body,
23:52 slow him down," and it worked.
23:53 That was actually another good round for Hackett.
23:55 You don't even got to go to him if you don't want to go to him.
23:57 He's got the deficit, but he has to close.
23:59 You know what I'm saying?
24:00 Keep boxing the way you're doing.
24:02 Let it come to you.
24:03 You get what I'm saying?
24:05 Round seven. You got three rounds left, okay?
24:08 Just don't let your level of tension turn on the inside.
24:10 Make sure you get that.
24:12 You got to get this.
24:13 [Whistle blows]
24:14 [Indistinct shouting]
24:16 Brother Tai in the corner of Clay Waterman.
24:19 Our co-main event for the vacant WBA,
24:26 Intercontinental Light Heavyweight title,
24:28 continues round number seven.
24:31 Hackett comes out firing.
24:34 And again.
24:36 Hackett looks super calm,
24:38 wasn't out of breath at all in the corner.
24:40 Very much in control.
24:41 And there's long reach in that long straight left again,
24:45 trying to go right up the middle to the body.
24:47 And all he really needs is that probing hand.
24:50 There's no head movement on the part of Waterman,
24:51 so if he gives that probing lead hand
24:53 and he keeps it out there just measuring,
24:55 I mean, Waterman's not really going to get through it,
24:56 and he's going to keep him at a distance where the left hand,
24:59 when he throws it, he's going to have leverage on him
25:00 because it's going to be at a proper distance.
25:03 But you see, sometimes he doesn't always use
25:04 that probing hand.
25:05 You see, now he's got it back at home.
25:07 But look, when he uses that probing hand,
25:08 look, Waterman just gives him that high guard
25:10 and then gives him that left hand.
25:12 Again to the body.
25:13 It's pretty -- Game plan is pretty easy
25:15 against a guy who doesn't move his head and comes forward.
25:17 But you just got to be able to stick with it.
25:20 Julian Chow said that Hackett knows how to take
25:24 his opponents out of their game plan.
25:27 And you can tell this is the type of fight
25:30 that Waterman likes,
25:31 and Hackett pushes him right out of the corner.
25:34 But again, Waterman's able to get close.
25:37 He's able to get close when -- at a distance,
25:40 when Hackett doesn't use that probing lead hand.
25:42 Watch him. Hackett used that probing lead hand.
25:45 Waterman is a sitting duck at middle range
25:47 right where Hackett wants him.
25:48 When that lead hand is not being used,
25:50 Waterman's able to, at times, explode in.
25:52 [ Indistinct shouting ]
25:54 Good right hand from Waterman.
25:55 Right back for the left hand from Hackett.
25:57 [ Indistinct shouting ]
26:01 Mike Colbert, my powerful partners,
26:03 the Magic Man, Pauly Malignaggi, Chris Algieri.
26:06 No punch. No punch.
26:07 Great to be with you here on a Wednesday night
26:09 from our world headquarters in Tampa, Florida.
26:12 [ Indistinct shouting ]
26:16 Over the top by Hackett.
26:18 [ Indistinct shouting ]
26:22 Ooh. Ooh. Double body shot there.
26:24 Left hand, right hand from Hackett.
26:26 [ Indistinct shouting ]
26:30 I mean, that --
26:31 [ Indistinct shouting ]
26:35 Waterman -- Waterman's gonna keep trying,
26:36 but if he doesn't start changing the gears a little bit,
26:39 he's gonna be easy to -- it's gonna be easy for Hackett
26:41 to see what's coming.
26:42 Hackett doing a really good job of being a ring general.
26:44 Steps back to the center of the ring, circles out,
26:47 doesn't spend too much time along the ropes.
26:49 I'm telling you, all he needs is that lead hand probing,
26:51 and he'll -- Waterman's not gonna do anything.
26:53 Now he's starting to back Waterman up.
26:55 [ Indistinct shouting ]
26:58 That probing hand landed to the face.
27:00 Oh!
27:02 That straight left hurt him again.
27:06 That's the one we talked about earlier.
27:09 That was a heavy shot.
27:10 Waterman's got a good chin, though, man.
27:12 He's done a lot of times.
27:13 One thing about Australians, they always got good chins, man.
27:15 Always in shape, always conditioned,
27:17 always good chins.
27:19 He's still very much in there.
27:20 I mean, he got Rock a good shot, but...
27:23 Waterman's tough.
27:24 Ozzie, Ozzie, Ozzie.
27:25 I haven't met one that isn't tough and durable yet.
27:28 Yeah, man.
27:30 What do you got in the UFC? Volkanovski?
27:31 Yep.
27:33 And many others.
27:36 Robert Whittaker.
27:37 Very good, okay?
27:38 Robert Whittaker's tough.
27:39 Rugged dudes down there, man.
27:41 Big time.
27:43 See some action from that last round.
27:44 He had a great round.
27:45 First time we really saw Waterman
27:47 get hurt with a shot.
27:48 It was that looping left hand first.
27:50 I caught him right in the chin,
27:51 and then a straight left right behind that.
27:53 And he did such a good job of not getting hit
27:55 with the uppercut.
27:56 You're like, "Oh, man, he's not getting hit
27:58 with the uppercut."
27:59 And then bang.
28:00 He takes something else instead with the left hand.
28:03 He had to wait for two uppercuts.
28:04 Couldn't land those, but then just turned
28:05 and it's going overhand right, overhand left.
28:07 You don't feel like you've got to rush nothing, right?
28:10 Okay?
28:11 [ Indistinct conversations ]
28:15 [ Whistle blows ]
28:17 You got Ty.
28:18 "I drink out of my shoe."
28:20 Yeah.
28:21 Yeah.
28:22 Another one who's tough.
28:26 Jack "Della" Maddalena and many others.
28:30 I got a bunch of Australian friends,
28:31 but I don't know if Shoei's it for me.
28:33 Yeah.
28:34 [ Laughs ]
28:36 [ Indistinct conversations ]
28:40 Eighth round.
28:42 This one's scheduled for 10.
28:45 Hackett has not slowed at all.
28:48 If anything, he's picked it up.
28:50 Yeah.
28:51 [ Indistinct conversations ]
28:53 You know, when you're in control of the pace,
28:55 it's very different.
28:56 You know, he's obviously in good shape,
28:57 but also he's in control of the pace,
28:59 so he's not getting pushed beyond where he's comfortable.
29:03 And this is just the second time
29:04 Waterman has been scheduled for 10.
29:07 The first time, he finished Mark Lucas in the fifth round
29:11 to win the Australian light heavyweight title.
29:14 [ Indistinct conversations ]
29:16 So soon to be on chartered waters
29:18 if this fight continues into round number 9.
29:21 [ Indistinct conversations ]
29:24 [ Indistinct conversations ]
29:27 [ Bell dings ]
29:28 [ Cheers and applause ]
29:32 Nice defense there by Hackett up against the ropes
29:35 and countering well.
29:36 [ Indistinct conversations ]
29:39 [ Indistinct conversations ]
29:42 And Hackett not afraid to use his physicality.
29:44 Pushes you up.
29:45 [ Indistinct conversations ]
29:48 And again, Hackett and Waterman,
29:49 a sit-and-dunk, no head movement.
29:52 And Hackett upstairs, downstairs,
29:56 90 seconds left here in round 8.
30:00 And Hackett still being defensively sound,
30:02 not taking any more risks just because he's having his way.
30:05 [ Indistinct conversations ]
30:08 Still dotting the i's and crossing the t's.
30:11 Big time.
30:12 And that's what his trainer talked about.
30:15 He's driven, he's a hard worker,
30:17 he feels he's one of the best in the world,
30:19 finally getting a big chance tonight on Pro Box TV.
30:22 But it's his fight IQ and his adaptability
30:26 that could very well be the key element
30:29 to lead him to 12-0.
30:31 And again, that one's short-range, Chris.
30:33 Yeah, that was a tricky little nasty uppercut
30:36 on the inside there.
30:37 Timing shot as he caught Waterman coming in.
30:41 And I think those are the kind of shots
30:43 that are now giving Waterman doubts
30:46 about trying to close that distance too much.
30:48 And Hackett growing in confidence
30:50 while Waterman slowing down.
30:52 We're seeing Waterman on his heels a lot more.
30:54 He's not an effective fighter getting pushed back.
30:56 [ Indistinct conversations ]
31:00 Kareem "Supreme" Hackett.
31:04 Said he's also known as the Toronto Technician.
31:07 I think that's a very adept nickname as well.
31:11 He has been very much the Toronto Technician tonight.
31:16 And he has been very Supreme.
31:18 [ Indistinct conversations ]
31:21 [ Bell rings ]
31:28 Hackett feeling himself.
31:30 As well he should be.
31:33 As coach Julian Chua is liking what he's seeing.
31:35 [ Indistinct conversations ]
31:38 There's two rounds left, okay?
31:45 You get an opportunity to get active.
31:48 [ Indistinct conversations ]
31:51 See some of that slickness of Hackett along the ropes.
31:54 He's done a really nice job of being lucid
31:57 even with his back against the ropes.
31:59 And what he does, which I really like,
32:01 is he comes back firing.
32:02 Makes you miss and makes you pay for it.
32:03 Keeps calm even at that close range.
32:05 He's slick that close range, and then he's calm enough
32:09 to fire right back at close range.
32:11 These are some of the shots as well.
32:13 Good creativity going down to the body, back upstairs,
32:16 around the side to the body, and down the middle to the head.
32:19 Makes it that much more difficult
32:21 to anticipate him defensively.
32:25 Round number 9.
32:27 The winner will leave with the WBA
32:33 Intercontinental Light Heavyweight belt.
32:36 Hackett in the purple and black trunks,
32:38 white and gold for Clay Waterman.
32:42 Waterman has had moments of aggression,
32:48 punches and bunches, but Hackett has truly been,
32:51 as I mentioned before, the Toronto technician.
32:54 I like that name, Toronto technician.
32:56 -Yeah. -That's a good one.
32:58 He's living up to it.
33:01 Oh!
33:04 Turns the corner and dials it up more.
33:06 That was slick.
33:07 That was slick.
33:11 Stepped outside and cracked him with a right hook.
33:13 Waterman's gonna bite down on that mouthpiece
33:18 and leave it all in the Pro Box TV ring.
33:22 But Hackett, unless something drastic changes,
33:26 is on his way to 12-0.
33:28 Both men entering 11-0 in their professional careers.
33:37 Yeah, Hackett, she's on a different level tonight.
33:39 I just think Waterman doesn't have the ideas, man.
33:48 You know, he's trying, but he's out of ideas.
33:52 He's not a big bag of tricks on the part of Waterman.
33:54 He's just pretty much effort.
33:57 While Hackett does have the bag of tricks,
33:59 and he's using them.
34:01 Now he's starting to dig real deep in that bag,
34:03 mixing things up,
34:04 showing stuff we haven't even seen yet.
34:06 If Hackett wanted to, I really think he could go forward
34:14 and push Waterman back and look to get a stoppage.
34:17 I mean, there's not much coming back
34:18 from Waterman at this point.
34:21 You got a minute? You got a minute?
34:23 Hackett's not having trouble finding him.
34:26 Hackett, a true student of the game as well.
34:34 He said that Zoro Ramirez loves to teach.
34:38 Could see him being a coach
34:40 when he is done with his professional career.
34:44 And Hackett talked about the ideologies
34:47 and the mindset of Muhammad Ali.
34:50 Good jabs on the part of Hackett.
34:51 Southpaw jab.
34:53 And does not forget the body.
34:55 Snuck in a nice left hand to the body in the middle of that.
34:59 And just the patience that Hackett has
35:03 and the ability to wait for that moment
35:06 in which his combinations will connect
35:09 or they've been set up perfectly.
35:12 That's the thing. I mean, Waterman,
35:13 I noticed over the course of the fight,
35:15 he's one of those guys that call your turn my turn.
35:17 He does not punch with you.
35:19 He only punches when he leads.
35:20 If you're punching at him, the best he can do
35:22 is try to make you miss, but he doesn't know how to counterpunch.
35:25 It's the very basics of boxing.
35:29 The very basics of boxing is not terrible,
35:31 but your turn my turn,
35:33 you're not gonna get to a world-class level
35:35 unless you can punch in between guys.
35:37 Lookit, first round, time rounds don't matter.
35:44 You gotta get 'em.
35:45 You have to get 'em this round.
35:47 You gotta get 'em out of there, you understand?
35:49 You have to throw everything you got.
35:50 You gotta move your head all the way in.
35:52 You started the body, come up to the head.
35:55 You gotta get down. You gotta get this round, understand?
35:58 Everything is on the line right here.
36:01 There's no other way to save.
36:03 You gotta get 'em this round. Take some water.
36:05 That's right. Don't let your level of attention fall at all.
36:14 Okay? Watch out the inside.
36:16 Watch out on the inside.
36:19 Last round. New champion. Let's go.
36:21 Touch. Last round, guys.
36:26 You are very professional, my friend.
36:29 I like that. Don't let your level of attention fall.
36:34 Last round, and you become the champion.
36:38 Hackett again punishing the body of the Aussie.
36:42 Oh, my goodness.
36:44 Two back-to-back.
36:46 Right hands to the body.
36:49 You heard Ty Waterman, Clay's brother,
36:51 saying you gotta leave it all in the ring right here, right now.
36:56 The first nine don't matter.
36:57 You have got to finish Hackett,
37:00 which is not going to be easy.
37:03 [ Indistinct shouting ]
37:06 Can never say impossible until that final bell.
37:21 Improbable, perhaps.
37:31 At least allegedly, right, Paulie?
37:33 Yeah. [ Laughs ]
37:36 I don't want to say never anymore.
37:38 [ Laughs ]
37:39 Ring the bell. Ring the bell.
37:41 Oh, timing shots again from Hackett.
37:44 Just a slip and rip to the body.
37:46 Pawn out with that lead hand,
37:52 looking to set up that big straight left again.
37:55 You know what's also impressive?
37:59 This is only Hackett's 12th pro fight.
38:01 Yeah. He looks very, very good.
38:03 Very, very well schooled, very slick, very well rounded.
38:09 Yeah. For 12th pro fights, man, that's very impressive.
38:11 And he's been boxing consistently well
38:14 for all 10 rounds.
38:15 Most guys don't even have a 10-rounder
38:20 in their first 12 fights.
38:21 Yeah. Good point.
38:24 Second 10-rounder for Waterman.
38:28 Under a minute remain.
38:30 The Aussies coming on strong,
38:37 gonna leave it all right in front of our broadcast position.
38:40 Break! No punch. Break!
38:42 No punch. No punch.
38:44 40 seconds.
38:46 You know, Paulie, you talk about the toughness of the Aussies,
38:48 you know, the good chin and everything.
38:49 Even his face, though. He's not even getting marked up.
38:51 How strong is it?
38:53 Well, they're built out of something different.
38:54 It might mark up later, though, man.
38:55 Yeah, no, definitely.
38:57 But right now, it's like, "Wow."
38:58 He's not bad, right?
38:59 No. I'd look like a tomato.
39:01 Tomato.
39:02 [ Laughs ]
39:04 Waterman just made his U.S. debut June 9th on Showbox.
39:08 This is his second fight in the United States.
39:11 Final seconds.
39:16 Again, the probing always works.
39:17 Yep.
39:18 If he would have done that, I'm telling you,
39:20 Waterman would have landed a punch already.
39:23 Hackett.
39:24 Hackett.
39:26 And Waterman set to go the distance.
39:28 Stop!
39:29 [ Bell dings ]
39:30 [ Cheers and applause ]
39:32 ♪♪
39:42 [ Indistinct shouting ]
39:44 ♪♪
39:54 Hackett looked outstanding.
39:59 Yeah, I was impressed.
40:00 I'm looking forward to seeing him again.
40:02 ♪♪
40:07 Pick it up from the second.
40:11 Yeah, I mean, here we see the long-range attacks
40:16 in control of the ring from Hackett all night long.
40:19 It's a lot of Waterman trying to close the gap,
40:21 but really, even when he did, Hackett did a really good job
40:26 of rolling, sliding, being slick with the upper-body rhythm,
40:29 and then answering and firing.
40:31 And then the body work in the second half of the fight
40:33 from Hackett was really, really exceptional.
40:35 Found right hooks to the body,
40:36 straight-legged hands down the middle.
40:37 Very, very sneaky with a lot of those shots.
40:40 And really just started to pour on more and more pressure
40:43 as the fight went on.
40:44 I mean, he was still moving backwards,
40:46 but still being a pressure fighter,
40:48 like a boxer pressure fighter.
40:49 It was very impressive.
40:51 Picked his punches really well,
40:52 varied up the left hand in an excellent way,
40:55 and really just Waterman had no answer
40:57 for the slickness and the left hands of Hackett tonight.
41:01 Here we see combinations, cutting angles.
41:05 Very impressive stuff from Hackett.
41:07 And again, only his 12th pro fight.
41:10 Final round.
41:14 And it was more of the same.
41:15 Hackett started fast, landed a couple good body shots.
41:19 Feeling very confident once that final bell rang,
41:22 as he should feel.
41:23 It goes the full 10 rounds.
41:31 We are set to make it official,
41:33 and once again, we get it up to Mark Lichtenfeld.
41:38 Ladies and gentlemen, after 10 hard-fought rounds,
41:40 we go to the scorecards.
41:42 Brian Gary scores about 99-91.
41:46 Joe Ware and Dennis Devon both scored about 100-90.
41:51 Cien a noventa.
41:54 El ganador Intercontinental de peso
41:58 semipesado campeonato WBA,
42:02 and now the WBA Intercontinental Light Heavyweight Champion,
42:07 Kareem "Supreme" Hackett!
42:12 [cheers and applause]
42:15 The bell goes to the Toronto Technician.
42:20 A spectacular performance, winner by unanimous decision,
42:28 handing the Aussie Clay Waterman
42:30 the first loss of his professional career,
42:35 and capturing the WBA Intercontinental Light Heavyweight Champion.