" Mein Heran Hon Aisa To Dushman Mulk Karte Hain. ." Sabiq Secretary Aizaz Ahmad Chaudhry Ka Tajzia
" Mein Heran Hon Aisa To Dushman Mulk Karte Hain. ." Sabiq Secretary Aizaz Ahmad Chaudhry Ka Tajzia
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00:00 It's a very tricky situation. I understand.
00:03 It's a very tricky situation. Pakistan is responding to this with great responsibility.
00:09 But, as I was talking to Shari Rahman, restraint, responsibility and weakness,
00:16 there is a very thin dividing line. What are we to do next?
00:23 What do we have to do now? Because we can't afford a second.
00:25 It can't be a second, otherwise there will be an escalation.
00:28 What do you think happened in this case and what should happen next?
00:32 The activity that has taken place in Iran is very provocative, very provocative and very disappointing.
00:42 It's disappointing because it was a friendly country.
00:45 They have always had friendly relations with Pakistan.
00:50 There were problems at the border. We were also very upset.
00:53 But Pakistan has always shown tolerance and channels of communication were open.
00:58 But in such a situation, such an incident…
01:01 So you are surprised that you are in the foreign office and you have headed the foreign office.
01:07 Look, this is a step based on hostility. These are hostile countries.
01:13 This is not a friendly country.
01:15 If you open the website of Mofaa, it will be written on it that it is a border of peace, love and friendship.
01:21 We are doing exactly the same with them.
01:24 And as I said, there were Indian spies from there.
01:29 People from the BLA also used to come from there.
01:31 People from the Baid-Zain-e-Biyun Brigade were also there.
01:33 There was everything.
01:34 But Pakistan said that it will be done in a diplomatic way.
01:37 But this incident that happened…
01:39 But in this, I feel a little, Mr. Kashif, that the Iranian government has not spoken in a correct way.
01:48 The media that is related to them is saying that.
01:51 But the Iranian government has to come out clean that this has happened with their blessing.
01:58 Or it was done directly by their local commander or what.
02:04 So you are saying that someone came out of the main fold and pressed the button of the missiles.
02:10 This is a very dangerous thing.
02:12 Oh, Iran should be very worried about this.
02:16 And if this has happened with their blessing, then they should have the courtesy and the guts to say that yes, we did this.
02:23 Sir, when the answer came to the Prime Minister of Iran, the Foreign Minister spoke about it in Davos.
02:27 He did not speak in much detail, but the information I have, he said that no Pakistani was targeted in the drone attack.
02:33 He had been warned in advance.
02:34 There have been two lines of such conversations from all sides.
02:37 But if you…
02:38 When you were dealing with Iran, did you ever find out that the hands of the people who are on the buttons of the missiles are free from the government?
02:48 The guards, their revolutionary guards.
02:51 No, sir.
02:52 No, look at their apparatus.
02:53 I have been there for five and a half years.
02:55 Their apparatus is very centrally controlled.
02:59 I cannot understand that such a thing would have been done without the permission of the Central Authority.
03:05 That is why the reaction of Pakistan has also come, that sir, where have you reached?
03:11 But it is good that we did not do tit for tat.
03:13 Now, I think we should wait for the next 20-22 hours for the Iranian government to tell us about a press release or tell us directly what happened.
03:26 Because in this way it cannot be believed that we have killed the people of Jundullah.
03:31 Sir, have you ever heard of Jaisalmer?
03:36 Yes, of course.
03:37 This Jundullah movement has been going on for a long time.
03:41 And their commander, Rigi, was hanged in Iran in 2020.
03:47 Since then, this movement has been divided into different parts.
03:50 So Jaisalmer is a part of it.
03:53 But this is not their headquarters.
03:56 They keep roaming on the border.
03:57 This is a militant Sunni movement that raises its voice for its rights in the Balochistan region of Iran.
04:04 So this is a problem of Iran on the Iranian side.
04:06 And just like the problem of Balochistan is ours, that the people of BLA come from there.
04:10 So these matters will not be solved by such a missile attack or drone attack.
04:17 This will be done diplomatically.
04:18 So Pakistan has certainly taken a step.
04:20 But now Iran has to answer.
04:23 This round answer will not work.
04:25 They will have to answer.
04:27 And sir, if they do not give a satisfactory answer, then what?
04:32 See, Iran is a vulnerable country.
04:35 How many friends of Iran are there in the world?
04:37 Tell me.
04:38 There are very few friends.
04:40 So that's why it doesn't seem right to Iran that the few friends left, including Pakistan, should be upset.
04:49 And Pakistan was also forced to keep the third border safe because the borders of India and Afghanistan were unprotected.
04:56 So both were forced to do this.
04:59 Sir, why don't you have any sense?
05:01 I tried to see, but I didn't see anything.
05:06 Has anything happened in Iran, in the border area, in the last few days, whose reaction has been this?
05:11 Because I didn't see anything like this.
05:13 No, nothing like this happened.
05:15 I haven't seen anything like this either.
05:17 What could be the motive behind this?
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05:43 What could be the motive behind this?
05:45 You see this escalating, if they don't give a satisfactory answer, you think that the first thing will be let go, the second thing will not be tolerated.
05:53 Is that how you see Pakistan's response?
05:55 That's how I see it.
05:57 That they tolerated the first one, but I think the diplomatic contact that we had, there was a lot of pressure in it.
06:06 And Iran should feel this pressure, because they have not maintained this friendship.
06:11 I think they have crossed a red line.
06:14 So you think that they have not maintained this friendship, but let's, you know, what you said, I have said this before, they did it in Iraq.
06:23 What are they thinking?
06:25 And if it happens again, what will happen in your opinion?
06:27 Then the escalation will definitely happen.
06:29 Then there will be no way left for Pakistan.
06:31 Yes, yes, there will be no way left.
06:33 Look, Pakistan also has a lot of options.
06:36 It is such a big border.
06:38 We were trying to improve that border, so that border markets are made here, a lot of things happen.
06:43 But if you do this kind of work, then it will be good for you too.
06:48 A lot of problems can arise on that border.
06:51 Iran is not as safe a country as they imagine themselves.
06:56 It may also be that they have come to the point.
06:58 Since China has become friends with Saudi Arabia, and they have also joined the expanded BRICS from January 1.
07:07 And you know that the 10 countries are also talking about currency de-dollarization.
07:13 So this kind of shape can come that if America can do drones and can solve its own affairs.
07:19 And if India can also attack Balakot, then we can also do that.
07:25 I am sure that the answer given to India has gone somewhere in their mind that such an answer can also come from Pakistan.
07:31 Exactly, exactly.
07:33 And they need to tell this thing from the diplomatic channel and privately that this will not happen in this way.
07:39 You know very well that Pakistan has the capacity.
07:42 I sometimes feel that when the internal affairs of Pakistan are in full transition, then people start taking it lightly.
07:54 So I hope that whatever government is formed after the elections on February 8,
08:01 that and the military leadership together, a institution like the National Security Council,
08:06 pay attention to it seriously.
08:09 See, America is in 1947, India is in 1998, all countries have some kind of institution in which the civil and military leadership work together.
08:18 What happens with that is that your neighbors and other countries do not take you lightly,
08:24 they look at you seriously because they think that the whole of the government will respond.
08:29 I have written this.
08:32 We have a National Security Council, but you are saying make it more effective. Thank you very much.
08:35 No, no, no, we don't have a National Security Council. We have a National Security Committee.
08:39 I have a committee.
08:41 (speaks in foreign language)