"Is Wakht Sab Sath Baithne ki Baat Kartay Hain Laikn Opposition Zaroori Hai" | Muhammad Zubair Umar
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"Is Wakht Sab Sath Baithne ki Baat Kartay Hain Laikn Opposition Zaroori Hai" | Muhammad Zubair Umar
"Is Wakht Sab Sath Baithne ki Baat Kartay Hain Laikn Opposition Zaroori Hai" | Muhammad Zubair Umar
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00:00 We will get to know all this when a manifesto comes out.
00:03 We have deciphered the People's Party manifesto.
00:05 There are some promises in it, some are more politically gimmicky,
00:09 and some are good schemes.
00:10 I have the PMLN notification in front of me.
00:13 If we run it on the screen, on 7th November 2023,
00:16 this manifesto committee was formed.
00:18 There were 34 people in it, then another 10 people were added to the list,
00:23 and there are about 50 people in it.
00:24 So, this manifesto is not being formed by 50 people from your Jamaat.
00:27 It's a very heavy duty manifesto.
00:30 What is the reason for a manifesto?
00:32 We are debating about what will be the plan.
00:35 That's why I asked this question.
00:36 All these subjects, whether privatisation or growth,
00:38 Where is your manifesto?
00:40 When I joined Nair, one of my immediate involvement was in the manifesto in 2013.
00:48 And, obviously, I was leading for 6-10 years.
00:50 There were not 45-50 people in it, but 15 people.
00:55 From foreign policy to economic policy, energy policy, tax reforms,
00:59 internal security, and everything, it was very comprehensive.
01:03 It was announced on 7th March 2013 by Mian Nawaz Sharif.
01:07 Two months before the election.
01:09 It was the May 11th election, so we knew the date.
01:12 Because, two months before, when you tell everyone in the market,
01:15 those who have to read, understand, question, debate,
01:20 decide on your economic plan versus PTI's economic plan,
01:24 or People's Party's economic plan.
01:26 So, it's being announced on 27th, I don't know.
01:29 I heard it on 27th.
01:30 It was announced barely 10 days before.
01:33 So, it's hard to...
01:34 The problem is, you know that you have to fight the election,
01:36 you know it since long, and you know that you are coming.
01:39 So, why don't you take out an old manifesto,
01:41 and put it in the same.
01:43 What is the issue? Where is the issue?
01:45 I don't know, because I am not part of the manifesto committee.
01:49 So, what does it mean that you don't need a manifesto?
01:52 You don't need a campaign, or a manifesto?
01:55 If I was in that team, I would have so much burden that I wouldn't be able to sleep.
02:00 I would be in the middle of December, and manifesto.
02:02 What is the rocket science in that?
02:04 You have to look at the fundamentals,
02:06 first you have to identify what are the issues,
02:07 what are the subjects.
02:08 Take foreign policy for example.
02:10 Foreign policy is one of those standard things,
02:13 that we want to have good relations with our,
02:15 in the region, and with our brotherly Muslim countries,
02:18 and so on and so forth.
02:19 But more than that,
02:20 there are many things that you have to specify,
02:22 about Pakistan and Afghanistan,
02:23 about Pakistan and India,
02:25 about Pakistan and Iran, and so on.
02:27 Pakistan-EU relationship, Pakistan-US relationship,
02:30 because whoever understands,
02:32 similarly there is economy,
02:33 similarly there are social indicators,
02:35 human development indicators,
02:37 that what we have to do in the health sector,
02:38 what we have to do for population control,
02:41 because people want to know,
02:43 are these even in the manifesto or not?
02:46 This is the thing.
02:48 I say that,
02:50 similarly where do you have to take growth,
02:52 how will you fulfill your reserves,
02:53 foreign obligations,
02:54 the dollars, how will you fulfill them?
02:57 Privatization, state owned enterprises,
02:59 No, they said that they will do privatization,
03:01 they will do structural reforms,
03:03 how will they do it, I don't know,
03:04 because a coalition government will be formed,
03:06 PM People's Party will sit with you,
03:08 how much space do you have to do all this?
03:10 I will comment on coalition,
03:11 one of the reasons,
03:12 one of the reasons that the PDM government was formed,
03:14 and even today I hear things,
03:17 that the situation is such that if everyone sits together,
03:20 there is going to be no opposition,
03:22 the democracy,
03:23 the parliamentary democracy is very essential,
03:26 a strong opposition,
03:28 which represents the class,
03:30 which is not being heard,
03:32 or the issues are like a sword on the government,
03:35 like the role of the media,
03:37 an independent media,
03:38 So Raja Riaz,
03:39 not the type of Raja Riaz,
03:41 there will be an opposition,
03:42 but to sit together,
03:43 see the economic agenda of the People's Party,
03:45 the foreign policy agenda,
03:47 is completely different from the JUI,
03:49 JUI is pro Taliban,
03:51 I am not talking about right or wrong,
03:53 the People's Party is anti,
03:55 how far are we ready to go with India,
03:57 with PM LN,
03:59 there is a difference with the other political parties,
04:02 then we heard that after the end of the 16-month government,
04:05 that these decisions were not made because there was no cohesion,
04:09 and there will be no cohesion,
04:10 obviously, the MKM is representing its own interest groups,
04:13 JUI is of its own,
04:14 PM LN is of its own,
04:16 that is why you seek a clear mandate from the people,
04:19 so that you are not blackmailed,
04:21 and I totally disagree with this,
04:24 that this charter of economy,
04:26 Mifta Ismail and Ishaq Dar,
04:28 cannot agree on one thing,
04:31 you are saying that for the next 15 years,
04:33 for 10 years,
04:34 all of Pakistan will agree,
04:35 What will happen Mr. Zubair,
04:36 elections are taking place,
04:37 and this is good,
04:39 differences are good,
04:40 it is a good thing,
04:41 but the ground realities are,
04:43 that the US is fighting for free elections,
04:46 PM LN is fighting for free elections,
04:48 PPP is fighting for free elections,
04:50 a government will be formed,
04:51 and they will go ahead and start the country,
04:53 In the history of Pakistan,
04:54 the first party-less election was in 1985,
04:56 at that time, the PPP was to be stopped,
04:58 by General Zia,
04:59 obviously, the PPP was dead body,
05:02 so there was a pressure to get elections done,
05:04 from the international community,
05:06 that somehow,
05:07 you get some elections done,
05:09 and before that,
05:10 they had done a referendum,
05:12 anyways,
05:13 that was the first party-less election,
05:15 and everyone felt,
05:16 the whole of Pakistan felt,
05:17 that what was that,
05:18 time has been wasted,
05:20 and within 6 months of that party-less election,
05:23 Mr. Junejo had formed the Muslim League,
05:25 Parliamentary Party,
05:26 and he had told General Zia,
05:27 that party-less elections are nothing,
05:29 until there is a party's representation,
05:31 there is no discipline,
05:33 now this is the first incident,
05:35 Pakistan is going to create a history,
05:37 history of the Parliamentary Republic,
05:39 that part party-based,
05:43 and part party-less,
05:45 it is the kind of history,
05:48 that we will regret,
05:50 at some stage in our life,
05:51 absolutely right,
05:52 quickly, some questions,
05:53 Mariam Nawaz Sharif Sahiba,
05:55 what is your opinion,
05:56 are you going to Punjab or Vifak,
05:57 I don't know,
05:58 no idea,
05:59 Nawaz Sharif,
06:00 for the fourth time,
06:01 is the Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif,
06:02 or Shabaz Sharif,
06:03 Nawaz Sharif has a vote back,
06:05 Nawaz Sharif has popularity,
06:06 Nawaz Sharif is PM LN,
06:08 there are no two opinions,
06:10 I think if Nawaz Sharif is not elected,
06:14 then the supporters of PM LN,
06:16 lakhs, crores of people,
06:18 who have put their hopes,
06:20 they have put their hopes on Nawaz Sharif,
06:22 and the free hope in the field,
06:24 is there a possibility of a non-PM LN government,
06:27 which is there,
06:29 I was listening to Fayyaz-ul-Hassan Chauhan,
06:32 yes, exactly,
06:33 in the same context,
06:34 IPP is not right,
06:35 People's Party is right,
06:36 he was saying that,
06:37 it is natural,
06:38 that the people of PTI,
06:40 who have left and gone,
06:42 they have gone to IPP,
06:43 the Stakram-e-Pakistan Party,
06:45 because there,
06:46 they see at least some familiar faces,
06:48 and they feel,
06:50 next to PTI,
06:51 this is the best option,
06:53 so he is saying,
06:54 all the independents who will come,
06:55 they will go to them,
06:56 now I don't know,
06:57 Jhangi Tareen's,
06:58 he says,
06:59 the plane is also ready,
07:00 but what is the decision,
07:02 this will not be right,
07:03 if in the name of Imran Khan,
07:05 he will bring a candidate for PTI,
07:07 I think he will have a big responsibility,
07:09 that how PTI,
07:11 leadership guides him,
07:13 and her.
07:14 Thank you very much,