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00:10 Infamous Sylvia.
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00:32 We're gonna talk about it.
00:33 What happened today.
00:34 Now we already talked earlier this afternoon
00:38 about what happened this morning.
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02:30 And, you know, we are out here making sure
02:33 that the story is told from our perspective, you know,
02:38 and we don't have any shenanigans
02:40 like Miss Adrienne Love said today.
02:43 What'd she say about being in the jungle?
02:45 And--
02:46 The jungle.
02:47 (laughs)
02:48 Yeah, we not going, we gonna talk about that.
02:50 We gonna talk about the jungle comment
02:53 that had a thug all twisted.
02:56 And I'm gonna talk about who was there today
02:59 and being the first day of the trial.
03:01 Ooh, they have a lot to do.
03:04 And it seems like it was a bit of a mess
03:06 as you were saying this morning,
03:07 like just trying to get this thing moving.
03:12 Yeah, it was chaotic.
03:15 You know, they didn't have all the information
03:17 that they needed and they finally got it together.
03:20 They got it together.
03:22 So in the morning, Adrienne, is it Adrienne or Andrea?
03:27 Adrienne.
03:28 Adrienne Love, who is the state prosecutor.
03:32 We will pull up some pictures.
03:35 I hope that we can get some of those pictures going
03:37 for Adrienne Love.
03:38 She was wearing red today.
03:39 And--
03:41 No, she don't have on red, she had on--
03:45 Oh, that was the other day.
03:47 Okay, so that's another picture of her,
03:48 but she's the blonde haired woman, is she?
03:51 No, no, no, she's a black lady.
03:53 Oh, okay.
03:54 Okay, this is Adrienne Love.
03:55 Thank you.
03:56 This is her we're looking at now?
03:58 No, that's not her either.
03:59 Uh-oh, all right.
04:00 Well, we gotta get our pictures organized.
04:03 Okay.
04:04 So tell us who we just saw,
04:06 'cause those are important characters in this story anyway.
04:09 Well, the lady in red is the attorney for Kendrick,
04:13 for Monta, Kendrick.
04:16 Okay, okay.
04:17 He has three attorney.
04:18 He has her and then he has Weinstein,
04:21 the guy that's right there with the glasses.
04:23 And there's another attorney sitting next to him
04:27 on the other side of Mr. Kendrick.
04:29 Okay, so that's one of our co-defendants attorneys,
04:32 Kendrick's attorney.
04:33 All right.
04:34 And then the old lady in the stripes was, who's attorney?
04:37 She's like in law, I think she's in law school,
04:41 but she's with Mr. Steele.
04:44 Okay.
04:45 Yeah.
04:46 Okay, so she's part of Steele's team.
04:48 All right.
04:48 And I don't know if we have a picture of Adrienne Love,
04:51 but she was the first person to present.
04:54 She is the state prosecutor's office attorney.
04:57 And she was supposed to come to the table this morning
05:00 with all of her ducks in a row.
05:02 And apparently she started presenting
05:03 and everybody started going crazy.
05:06 Yeah.
05:07 What'd she do?
05:09 Well, she painted a picture, an ugly picture
05:16 and a bunch of jungle wolves,
05:19 a pack of wolves in the jungle.
05:22 Pack of wolves.
05:23 And who the heck was she talking about
05:25 being pack of wolves in the jungle?
05:26 She was referring to the jungle book.
05:30 You know, the jungle book,
05:31 it was a thing talking about the pack of wolves
05:33 in the jungle book.
05:34 She was referring to that.
05:36 And so she was basically talking about young thug
05:40 and Jeffrey William, his correct name,
05:43 him and the rest of the YSL team saying pack of wolves.
05:48 And he's the wolf, the leader.
05:53 Okay.
05:54 So this different ways that you could have said
05:55 that somebody was the leader of a group of people
05:57 besides referring to jungles and wolves and animals.
06:00 And wolves.
06:02 Yeah.
06:02 Like, you know, does anybody,
06:06 is anybody on her team that's like a person of color
06:08 who could tell her that was like totally, you know,
06:11 racist, borderline racist and tone deaf?
06:14 Yeah.
06:15 You in there, you know,
06:16 and of course we know everything is intentional.
06:18 So we're not going to look at it
06:19 as she didn't know any better.
06:21 We're gonna look at it as she knew what she was saying,
06:24 trying to paint these men in a fashion
06:27 that would automatically make them animals
06:30 in the sight of the 12 men and women on the jury.
06:33 Let's talk about the jury composition.
06:35 18, you mean 18 men and women.
06:38 The substitutes in case.
06:41 Yeah, the substitute, yes.
06:43 All right.
06:44 Majority of black women, middle age from like 45 and up.
06:49 Nice.
06:50 Okay, so these are somebody's mamas and aunties.
06:53 Yeah, somebody's mamas and aunties.
06:55 And then you had two black guys.
06:58 One looked like he about 28, 30, early 30s.
07:02 And then the other one, he's a little bit,
07:06 they're about the same age, I would say.
07:08 No, no.
07:09 I would say he's 45.
07:10 The older one.
07:11 Okay, okay.
07:12 So then there's a little white guy, two white guys.
07:16 And then, well, one, he kind of looked like he's Spanish.
07:20 He may not be white, but it's him.
07:24 And then one white woman.
07:26 Okay, so we seem like we have a pretty diverse composition
07:31 for the jury.
07:32 Yes.
07:33 Did it look like, okay?
07:34 So that's-
07:35 The majority of them is the older age.
07:36 They're all older.
07:39 No one in their teens or anything like that.
07:41 No, early 20s.
07:43 No.
07:44 All right, so that means the people in their teens
07:45 either got excluded or early 20s, they got excluded
07:48 or they didn't show up to jury duty.
07:51 They're not registered.
07:53 No, there was a lot of them that went through it,
07:54 but a lot of them got hardship.
07:58 Oh, they had hardship.
07:59 Yeah.
08:00 Right, because they can't afford to be on a four month,
08:01 this is gonna be a four or five month endeavor.
08:04 Yes, yes.
08:05 Okay.
08:06 And then the people that they chose
08:07 are not people that are rich either.
08:09 I think there are more people who their job is gonna pay
08:13 for the full time of them being there.
08:15 Wow.
08:16 Wow.
08:17 Well, we know that you're supposed to have a jury
08:19 of your peers, right?
08:20 And we know that the community that these young men
08:23 were our members of and grew up around was a community.
08:28 It was not an affluent community.
08:30 It was a majority black community, right?
08:33 And I understand that that part of town
08:35 is not necessarily affluent.
08:38 It's pretty much the folks,
08:40 they are pretty much economically the same way
08:43 that the jurors are.
08:45 So that's promising.
08:47 There could be some relatability there.
08:49 So "Homegirl" gets on, Adrian Love gets on
08:52 and starts talking about, he's the leader of,
08:55 in the "Jungle Book," he's the leader of the pack
08:59 and making these men look like wolves.
09:01 And you said that Thug's face kind of got, what?
09:06 He had that stone face on.
09:08 (laughs)
09:09 He was like-
09:10 What is she trying, what?
09:12 Is she just saying?
09:13 Yeah, but he stayed pretty straight face and didn't move.
09:18 At one point he yawned.
09:20 (laughs)
09:22 At one point he yawned at it.
09:25 Listen, as long as he's been sitting in that chair,
09:27 I'd be yawning too.
09:28 He looked good.
09:29 Do we have a picture of him?
09:30 I hope we can pull up a picture in a few minutes.
09:32 He looked really good.
09:33 He has gained a lot of weight.
09:35 Yeah, but his hair looked nicely plaited, right?
09:39 'Cause he'd been, I'd seen him a couple of times
09:41 and you know, you're used to seeing your celebrities
09:44 looking amazing and then you're seeing him in court
09:46 and he's looking like, yo,
09:47 when is he gonna get his hair done?
09:49 (laughs)
09:50 Yeah.
09:51 His hair was done.
09:53 Okay, so he's looking groomed
09:55 and he had on a black and white ensemble.
09:58 So looking fresh and clean.
10:00 And he was accompanied by a number of folks.
10:03 I know that I heard that Mariah the scientist,
10:08 his girlfriend was in the building.
10:11 Yeah, she is.
10:12 She was sitting in the back.
10:13 She had on a nice checkered coat, black and white.
10:17 She had a pair of black slacks on nice, some nice shoes.
10:20 You know how we always do, some nice shoes.
10:22 Ma'am, you gotta have it.
10:25 Yeah.
10:26 That's really, you know, good to see
10:30 because these types of things
10:31 can be really dicey for people.
10:33 And I'm really surprised that they've been able to,
10:36 you know, keep their relationship going.
10:37 'Cause he got, well, this has happened in May of 22
10:40 and they obviously are still, you know, together.
10:45 So that's good to know.
10:47 And then you had Kevin Lyles in the building too.
10:50 Yes, yes.
10:51 He was there.
10:53 He went up to the family room upstairs
10:56 because they didn't have enough room downstairs
10:58 for the observers.
11:01 And so I got a chance to talk to him.
11:03 Got a chance to quote him on a statement he made.
11:07 I know I said it earlier.
11:08 And that statement basically says that if we,
11:12 this was the country music or rock, you know,
11:20 hard rock music, we wouldn't be here.
11:23 And he's saying basically it's a racist thing.
11:28 It's all about the race.
11:31 'Cause a lot of rappers are being put on trial.
11:36 There's like rap music.
11:39 This is not the first one, but this is the first time
11:42 they're doing a recall, actual recall on the music,
11:45 the lyrics.
11:46 Yeah.
11:47 And that was something that was very surprising
11:50 that Judge Glanville would allow that,
11:53 because like you said,
11:54 this is definitely gonna be setting a precedent
11:57 for the future.
11:58 I mean, Kevin Lyles is right.
12:00 I mean, as many times as we've heard, you know, lyrics,
12:04 whether it be about, you know, shooting people
12:08 or raping women or, you know, just questionable activities,
12:12 it's always like, okay, that's lyrics, you know?
12:14 And you've heard country singers say some, you know,
12:16 say some questionable things.
12:18 And you've heard all types of folks, you know,
12:21 say some questionable things.
12:22 So this whole conversation about whether or not
12:24 we can try these folks based upon lyrics is very,
12:28 it's very dicey, you know?
12:29 It's very problematic because just think about like,
12:33 you know, okay, look, we know that in rap,
12:38 the difference is that our music
12:39 is supposed to be authentic.
12:41 We rap authenticity is really what it is
12:44 that is the foundation of everything we do.
12:49 'Cause it's like, this is what I lived.
12:51 You know, on the other hand, you know,
12:53 there is a level of capping, you know,
12:55 everybody's talking about they did this and they did that,
12:59 but in actuality, they haven't done anything.
13:01 It's just part of a persona that they've created.
13:03 So, you know, that's really what we're talking about here.
13:07 And then it becomes like in the future, what does that mean?
13:09 If this case is tried and they go to prison
13:13 because of the lyrics that they speak, you know,
13:16 what does that do for creativity in the future?
13:18 You know, will people, you know,
13:21 is it to be assumed that if SZA says,
13:23 I might kill my ex and he dies, that she killed him?
13:26 Yeah.
13:27 Yeah.
13:28 So, so this is, so Judge Glenville allowed that.
13:32 So anyway, she started, you started off today,
13:34 homegirl, Adrian Love got up
13:36 and started talking crazy about the jungle.
13:39 And everybody started wiling on her
13:41 because she was missing,
13:44 her information was incomplete, right?
13:46 It was incomplete.
13:47 And then there was some misinformation provided.
13:51 Like they said that, like Lil Rod,
13:55 they said that he actually was killed somebody,
13:58 which it wasn't him that killed the person.
14:01 And then there was some, so many errors
14:05 and they're just like picking it apart.
14:07 And finally she had to take some of the slides out
14:11 of her presentation.
14:13 Ah, and this slowed everything down because,
14:16 you know, she's talking.
14:18 Two hours.
14:19 So, so a lot of people,
14:22 a lot of the testimony that was supposed to happen today,
14:24 the opening statements,
14:25 we didn't get to a lot of that
14:26 because of the delay with this.
14:28 Okay.
14:29 Well, yeah.
14:31 Hold on, I just,
14:33 I just sent one of the pictures over for the producer.
14:36 Okay.
14:37 I'm gonna get a show or whatever from the court.
14:39 My pictures keep getting stuck in my box here.
14:43 So, so she made all of these mistakes.
14:46 She's talking about somebody killed somebody,
14:48 but he wasn't even on trial for that.
14:50 We're not even here for that.
14:51 No, he was on trial,
14:53 but he's not the one who actually killed the person.
14:55 It was somebody else.
14:57 Okay.
14:59 So she's getting all her black people look the same.
15:00 What are we dealing with right now?
15:02 What's the reason for this, Miss Love?
15:05 He's trying to get a case.
15:06 She's trying to, I mean,
15:08 she's trying to win a case.
15:10 I'm like, are you trying to win a case
15:12 by just messing the whole thing up, being confusing?
15:14 Like what exactly is happening?
15:16 What type of strategy is this?
15:17 You know what it is?
15:18 It's because you remember they have,
15:22 they started off with a different set of prosecutors, right?
15:26 Oh, that's right.
15:27 And all of them are gone.
15:27 And so like, they have to,
15:29 they had to start from scratch.
15:31 And I believe that's one of the reason
15:32 why they prolonged the jury selection so long
15:36 is because it was trying to get them up to speed.
15:40 They, Mr. Steele and a couple of other defendants
15:43 filed for a speedy trial, right?
15:46 So with that speedy trial, they had,
15:48 if they go past the two terms,
15:50 they have to throw the case out, right?
15:52 So they didn't wanna do that.
15:53 So they started, they met the deadline of a speedy trial,
15:57 but it wasn't really a trial
15:59 because you were still picking jury for what, 10 months.
16:02 Right.
16:03 So they, it was a stale, a stall tactic to me.
16:08 That's just, it was a stall tactic.
16:11 Because, and they're still not ready.
16:13 They're still not prepared.
16:15 But Judge Lambeau, the judge is very committed
16:18 to moving forward with this though,
16:20 even though they're preparing at the same time
16:22 while they're presenting.
16:23 'Cause you mentioned that the defense,
16:27 some of the lawyers were objecting
16:31 and basically saying, you said that he,
16:33 saying to the judge, listen, you were supposed to,
16:36 I'm gonna file a motion to mistrial
16:39 because this was supposed to be prepared.
16:40 And you said that if this happened,
16:42 that you were gonna,
16:43 there were gonna be repercussions for the attorney.
16:46 Yeah, he didn't follow through with what his word were.
16:48 He's told them if certain things,
16:50 he kept giving them more and more chances.
16:52 And then it seemed like he was irritated with the defense
16:56 'cause the defense is bringing it up.
16:57 And he's like, I know this.
16:59 That, I mean, to me, he's just so like mean
17:04 to the other side.
17:05 So with the other side, meaning he's mean to the defense.
17:10 He's not, okay.
17:12 So he's giving the state more leniency than-
17:16 'Cause I think he knows they're not prepared.
17:19 I think he knows that.
17:20 I think he knows the circumstances,
17:22 but he's trying to, instead of getting rid of the case,
17:27 he has to fulfill it.
17:30 There's some people,
17:31 I think there's some people who is telling them,
17:36 like, they need to get this done type of thing.
17:39 All right, so she pushed through.
17:44 They put a pause on everything.
17:46 You guys went to lunch and then you came back.
17:48 Yeah, and so she continued.
17:49 She did her opening argument.
17:51 She ended it.
17:52 It took her, I would say about,
17:56 about an hour and 45 minutes for her argument.
18:01 She took, I thought she was gonna take like six hours,
18:05 but she didn't.
18:05 She didn't take as long as I thought.
18:07 And she presented a whole bunch of lyrics, I suppose.
18:10 She presented lyrics.
18:11 She presented like cases that with other people.
18:15 And of course she kept reiterating that Mr. Jeff,
18:20 Mr. William is the leader of it and things like that.
18:24 So she kept reiterating that.
18:26 All right, so we come back after lunch
18:30 and who was the first defense to present?
18:34 You only had one today.
18:35 And that was Mr. Max Schultz.
18:38 I don't know how to say his name.
18:41 Schultz?
18:42 Schultz?
18:44 No, Schultz.
18:44 Don't get me to spelling the man's name.
18:49 It's not Schultz, it's like a Schultz.
18:53 Okay.
18:54 Whose attorney is he?
18:58 He is Shannon Stilwell's attorney.
19:01 Let me pull it up.
19:02 I think I can get that information for you
19:04 'cause I'm not good at spelling someone's last name.
19:07 Okay.
19:09 Maybe we can get a picture of Shannon Stilwell.
19:10 I think we have all the photos of the individuals producer.
19:13 So Shannon Stilwell's attorney, Max Schultz,
19:20 was the only one that got to present today
19:22 in the timeframes.
19:22 So already starting off slow.
19:26 Yeah, it was pretty slow.
19:27 And tomorrow they're gonna continue.
19:29 We go back at 10 o'clock, later than today.
19:33 Go back at 10 o'clock tomorrow.
19:35 So we're already, they're saying,
19:39 excuse the noise in the background, hold on.
19:41 They're saying that the trial is gonna be four to five months
19:47 at this pace.
19:48 By a year.
19:50 By my mind.
19:51 Let me stop, a year.
19:52 Oh my, my, my.
19:54 Yeah, this is a long, this is, oh my, my, my.
19:56 Okay.
19:57 So he jumps on and while we're waiting for Sylvia
20:02 to get her situation, we're gonna show some photos.
20:06 Go ahead.
20:07 So what photos are we looking at here?
20:09 That is, that's Ms. Dee Williams and Mr. Ryan.
20:14 And that's the lady with the white hair.
20:17 That is an attorney that is like an advisor
20:20 with Young Thug's side.
20:23 She was part of the jury selection and she's pretty,
20:27 they said she's pretty good in picking jurors.
20:30 Well, it seems like she did a pretty good job.
20:33 That's, and that's Rodelius Ryan right there?
20:36 Yeah, that's Rodelius Ryan with the hair sticking up, yeah.
20:39 Okay, got it.
20:39 Who else we got?
20:40 You wanna show us some more photos?
20:42 That is Shannon Stilwell.
20:44 The lady in the red, that is the attorney for Mr. Nichols.
20:49 She's with Mr. Harvey, Bruce Harvey.
20:53 That's her like assistant.
20:55 I mean, she's another attorney, not assistant.
20:57 She's co-counsel.
20:59 Her name, I can't remember.
21:02 Hold on a second.
21:03 I do have her name.
21:06 But you said the Shannon Stilwell's attorney,
21:08 this gentleman, he's the one who's attorney presented today.
21:12 Yeah, Mr. Stilwell.
21:12 The one that you see sitting right next to him
21:14 with the glasses, that's who presented.
21:18 And he did an excellent job, I must say.
21:20 'Cause he basically gave an outline of exactly what errors
21:25 and what, well, he says basically lies
21:30 that was presented to the people
21:33 because even though they're saying one thing,
21:36 but the facts are Stilwell, the individuals who, the person,
21:41 well, he said four guys is the ones that claimed
21:46 that Stilwell was the one that did the crime,
21:50 did the murder, right?
21:51 But those four individuals were in blue suits.
21:55 In blue suits, he went by colors, right?
21:57 First, the color was the green.
21:59 He talked about money, money green.
22:01 He talked about the different,
22:04 then he went on and started talking about blue.
22:07 Blue, he was referring to the uniform of the prisoners
22:11 in Fulton County, that on blue.
22:14 So he was saying that the four individuals
22:16 that the witnesses were individual who were arrested
22:20 and they were wearing blue,
22:22 they wanted to get out there, they wanna be in jail.
22:24 So therefore they told lies to get themselves out.
22:28 - And have those four individuals,
22:30 did they actually get shorter
22:32 or get some sort of leniency for their testimony?
22:34 - I don't know 'cause I didn't do research on them at all.
22:38 So, 'cause their name was just mentioned today.
22:41 Well, their name was mentioned before.
22:42 I just didn't take the time out to go research
22:44 those individuals, see what kind of cases they have,
22:48 their cases been dropped and things like that.
22:50 - But the attorney is saying,
22:51 Shannon Stilwell's attorney is saying
22:53 that these four individuals that testified
22:55 on behalf of as witnesses against Stilwell.
23:00 And also, was this the one where
23:02 Quontavious Nichols was with him?
23:03 They were supposed to be in the car together?
23:05 - Yes. - Yes.
23:06 - Okay.
23:06 - So what was this murder?
23:07 - Well, it's two murder charges.
23:09 It's two murder charges. - Two murder charges.
23:10 Two different murders.
23:11 - Yeah, one of the murders is with Donovan Thomas,
23:14 which is Nut, they call him Nut.
23:17 He is supposed to be a leader of the other gang,
23:19 supposedly another gang.
23:21 And he is the one that was murdered.
23:24 - Uh-huh.
23:25 Okay, and apparently murdered,
23:27 and then this is a separate incident
23:29 that another person was murdered?
23:32 - Yeah, he was the one, this is one,
23:34 the main one that they're really fighting for
23:38 is because the mother,
23:41 she want justice for her son.
23:45 But she was there, she was there today, the whole family.
23:49 When they started talking about him,
23:52 when Ms. Love started talking about him,
23:55 they put a picture up, the family really, really reacted.
23:58 The mother got up and left the courtroom.
24:02 Then the lady that was sitting next to her,
24:04 her leg, she kept shaking, her leg was shaking,
24:06 she kept shaking her hand,
24:08 she was boiling her hand and her fist.
24:10 And then the, I don't know if it was a brother, cousin,
24:13 some family member, they were on the side,
24:15 one was crying, it's about one, two, three, four,
24:17 about five of them that was sitting in the seat
24:20 right across from me.
24:22 But you see their reaction when they put the picture up.
24:25 - And this is a picture of what again?
24:27 - Him, and you know how they take a picture
24:30 of somebody deceased?
24:31 - Oh my.
24:32 - Yeah, yeah.
24:34 - Of the gang, the alleged gang member deceased.
24:37 - Yeah.
24:38 - Okay, so these people were coming,
24:41 these, okay, so these people were coming as family members
24:46 supporting, I guess, the prosecution
24:48 because they're saying that Shannon Stilwell
24:51 and Fontavious killed this person.
24:53 - Yes.
24:55 - Wow, that's hard to watch, you know?
24:58 - It was not, 'cause you see a picture of him,
25:03 a regular picture, and then all of a sudden
25:05 they put a picture of him.
25:06 It like, you know how they do the forensics
25:09 and taking a picture of a deceased body?
25:11 - Yeah.
25:11 - Yeah.
25:12 - That's so traumatizing, wow.
25:14 - Pretty rough.
25:16 - And what was Shannon Stilwell looking like
25:18 during this time when they were showing all of this?
25:20 - I did not look at him 'cause I was looking at the picture
25:23 and I was looking at the family, seeing how their reaction.
25:27 I didn't get a chance to look over onto his side.
25:29 I couldn't see Nichols 'cause Nichols is sitting in the back
25:32 and I don't have a view of him, pretty good view.
25:35 - Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
25:37 But apparently this was some sort of murder
25:39 in maybe rival gang type of situation.
25:42 - It's a retaliation.
25:44 - Retaliation.
25:45 - 'Cause it was a drive-by and it was,
25:48 they said a whole bunch of bullets,
25:49 12 bullets or something like that that was mentioning.
25:52 It was 100 bullets or something.
25:55 - And how, you know, so the whole idea
25:57 is they're supposed to be linking all of these things
25:58 back to Young Thug, allegedly, you know,
26:01 he is the person that orders all of these things
26:03 as the leader.
26:04 Are they also saying, okay,
26:07 and somehow Young Thug told them to do that or?
26:10 - They're saying they did it for the leader
26:13 even though he was not around,
26:15 even though he was not in the vicinity
26:17 or had nothing to do with it,
26:19 but they basically saying because he's the leader,
26:21 they were doing it on his behalf.
26:24 - Mm-hmm, okay.
26:26 - The furtherance, the organized crime gang,
26:31 you know, membership though.
26:33 The thing is when Mr. Sharp, Max, I call him Max,
26:40 when Max got up, he basically said that, you know,
26:44 that Stillwell, yes, he was a drug dealer.
26:46 He admitted that Stillwell was a drug dealer.
26:49 - Totally.
26:49 - And that basically his drug dealing wasn't for the gang,
26:52 the furtherance of any gang.
26:53 It was more for himself taking care of his family
26:56 because he was grazed in poverty.
26:58 He painted a big picture of how he was raised.
27:02 He was raised by his grandmother
27:04 and his mom basically was on drugs
27:07 and his last name changed from Stillwell,
27:10 which was his mother's last name
27:11 to his grandmother's last name, his grandmother's, Jackson.
27:15 I mean, he gave a whole picture.
27:16 He painted a humanized picture of Mr. Stillwell.
27:20 So, and you could see the intensity of the jurors.
27:25 You saw how they were looking
27:27 and some of them even nodded
27:29 of what some of the stuff she was saying.
27:31 So, I mean, he was saying.
27:33 - Wow, wow.
27:35 So there was a relatability there where people,
27:37 like you said, came from that community.
27:39 Clearly they didn't look like they were rich.
27:41 They can relate to the idea of that struggle.
27:44 - And basically he, she gave, I mean, not he, she,
27:49 he gave that picture of an individual raised in the poverty
27:54 and the single woman taking care of them.
27:59 The grandmother raised him because the mother got on drugs
28:02 and he had no way out.
28:04 And at a young age, he wanted to have money
28:07 because he was poor and not having,
28:10 and lived in poverty.
28:12 He was painting a good picture of the situation.
28:17 - And he's already admitted to selling drugs, right?
28:20 So that's not even like, you know,
28:23 and the issue here is-
28:24 - He also paid, he also had mentioned,
28:27 he paid for the crime that he did as a drug dealer.
28:30 He went to jail.
28:32 He served his time as a drug dealer.
28:34 - Who was speaking on his behalf at this point?
28:38 This whole tale, who's telling this story?
28:40 - Mrs. Sharp, Max Sharp, the attorney.
28:43 Remember I was supposed to get his right name,
28:46 spelling of his right name.
28:48 - But this is the attorney for who?
28:51 - Stillwell.
28:52 - For Stillwell.
28:53 - Shannon Stillwell, yes.
28:54 - Okay, so I'm trying to, okay, help me make it make sense.
28:57 So he's painted the picture of the drug dealing,
29:02 of Shannon, well, Shannon still was drug dealing.
29:07 - Well, he's painted a picture that, okay,
29:10 yeah, he has done some crimes, but he-
29:13 - But it wasn't murder.
29:14 - Yeah, he didn't, he didn't kill anybody.
29:16 In fact, he's a target because people putting out,
29:19 those four liars put out that he was the one
29:23 behind the murder.
29:26 And now his life is at stake
29:28 'cause he's been shot up a couple of times
29:30 and they've been trying to kill him and stuff,
29:32 you know, retaliation.
29:35 So, but he might be a drug dealer, but he's not a murderer.
29:39 - I'd be interested to see what the response
29:44 is gonna be like from the state 'cause, you know,
29:46 the whole idea is if you can do one crime,
29:49 you can do a different crime, you know, so some, you know.
29:51 - Yeah, that's what they're trying to paint.
29:52 But let me give you his name is Maxwell Shard,
29:56 S-C-H-A-R-D-T.
30:01 - Shard, got it.
30:04 - Shard.
30:06 - Shard with a T, Maxwell.
30:08 And he's the attorney for Stillwell, okay.
30:11 - Shannon Stillwell, yes.
30:14 - So did that, was that the gist of it?
30:16 Like that was the whole thing,
30:17 painting that story about him.
30:18 Is he gonna come back again tomorrow?
30:20 - Well, he completed 'cause he did end, you know,
30:24 basically that they must find him not guilty
30:27 because he is not the person that did the murder.
30:30 The people that are blaming him are the ones
30:33 that were trying to get a deal because they got arrested.
30:35 Because if, okay, he gave an example,
30:38 like one guy supposedly knew about this murder,
30:42 but he waited from almost a whole year
30:44 before he even said anything.
30:46 He said something after he got arrested, he was in jail.
30:49 So each one of them did not say anything before.
30:53 And then while you go to jail,
30:54 now all of a sudden these individuals are the one that did.
30:58 - All right, so he's,
31:01 so what's gonna happen now is he's finished.
31:04 - He's finished, and the next set of person,
31:07 I think Mr. Matthew's going up
31:11 'cause when I was telling me
31:13 which one was going first and second,
31:15 Mr. Matthew said he was gonna go next.
31:16 So Mr. Matthew has Huey, the young man, Huey.
31:20 Let me give you his first name, hold on.
31:22 - Was that, no, that was Don.
31:26 - Hold on, I'll give you his name, hold on.
31:28 - Okay.
31:29 And Thug's dad was there today, of course.
31:37 - He was there.
31:38 - He's been there consistently, right?
31:41 - Yes.
31:42 His name is Marquavius Huey,
31:45 M-A-R-Q-U-A-V as in Victor, I-U-S, Huey, H-U-E-Y.
31:50 - And he is accused of theft.
31:56 - Theft and a couple of other things,
32:00 hold on, I can get you.
32:01 - Okay, that's a photo of Marquavius there.
32:05 He's also one of the younger ones, it looks like, right?
32:07 - Yeah, he's one of the younger ones.
32:09 He's, I think, 20, 21, something like that.
32:12 - Okay, and when these things happened,
32:14 was he a minor or we don't know?
32:16 - I don't know exactly how old he was.
32:19 - Yeah, it looks like he's, in this photo,
32:31 I think this is from yesterday to the day before,
32:33 he's all cleaned up.
32:36 And it's so wonderful how they really try to present them
32:41 so that people can see them as men.
32:44 And it's that juxtapose that
32:48 with the animal jungle reference.
32:50 So it's like really trying to make sure you humanize them
32:54 and humanize their experience.
32:55 And I think the experience of growing up in poverty
32:58 is something that a lot of people can relate to.
33:00 A lot of people understand that, okay, yeah,
33:04 we gotta do, sometimes we do what we do.
33:06 I mean, it's not what we should do, but-
33:09 - It's survival.
33:10 It's a form of survival, I guess.
33:12 - Yeah, yeah.
33:14 They talk about that in Thug's documentary.
33:17 He debuted last year.
33:19 Little Babies, I'm sorry,
33:22 Little Babies documentary, he debuted last year.
33:25 He's also from that community.
33:27 Not the exact same community, I don't think,
33:30 but basically an impoverished area of Atlanta.
33:34 And he talks about just that,
33:36 it's just all of the economics were against this community,
33:42 the way that they developed Atlanta,
33:44 the way that people were pushed out of certain areas
33:49 and just really left to fend for themselves.
33:52 So it's really real out here for people.
33:55 That doesn't excuse the crime,
33:56 but it definitely puts it into context.
33:59 And I think that's important
34:00 when we're talking about people's lives.
34:02 - He have his charges.
34:05 He's charged for arm robbery, aggravated assault,
34:09 possession, no, no, it's not assault.
34:13 Possession, 4544, aggravated assault, yes,
34:18 with a deadly weapon,
34:20 aggravated assault with deadly weapon,
34:22 possession of a firearm during the commission of a felony.
34:26 He got theft, hold on a second,
34:29 try and give you the rest.
34:32 He has possession of felony,
34:37 felony theft by stolen property.
34:42 He has aggravated assault with deadly weapons.
34:47 It's like repeating the same stuff.
34:49 Yeah, mostly robbery, theft, things like that and possession.
34:54 - So he's going up tomorrow.
34:56 While we're waiting for,
34:57 we'll talk more about who else is going on.
34:58 We have a question from Jamie Carradine.
35:01 When will Steel go on?
35:03 - Most likely in the last,
35:05 he's gonna be one of the last ones.
35:07 - Okay, just to remind everybody, who is Steel?
35:11 - Brian Steel, he is the attorney for Jeffrey Williams.
35:17 - Of course, the star of the show, the ringleader.
35:21 Of course, the alleged ringleader.
35:24 - Look, look.
35:24 - Yeah, the alleged, yeah.
35:26 - So he's gonna go on, you said last?
35:28 - Most likely he'll be last.
35:31 Most likely.
35:31 - So at this point, we're looking at
35:33 maybe the end of the week, maybe Thursday or Friday.
35:36 - Ah, don't say that.
35:37 'Cause they only have an hour to do.
35:39 - Okay, so everybody gets an hour.
35:43 - Yeah, so it's five, it's only five left.
35:45 So I'm gonna say what, it'll be over tomorrow.
35:48 - Okay, so we're hoping to hear from him tomorrow.
35:53 You would think that he would get more time
35:55 only because he's supposed to be the foundation
35:58 of this entire thing, right?
35:59 So he's gotta respond to so many different things
36:03 that are pointing in his direction.
36:04 He doesn't get more time for that?
36:06 For Thug's opening statements?
36:10 - No, he don't.
36:11 - No?
36:12 - He's the most busy of the others.
36:14 - All right, well, also any other questions, shoot them in.
36:19 We have another one.
36:20 They said Gunna's mom was in the courtroom today.
36:22 Is that true?
36:23 - Gunna's mom?
36:25 If she was, she probably was upstairs.
36:27 She was not downstairs.
36:29 - What's the upstairs, downstairs thing?
36:30 Can you explain what that is?
36:31 - Okay, downstairs is the main courtroom.
36:33 That's where I am now.
36:34 Woo-hoo.
36:35 - Yes.
36:36 - That's the main courtroom.
36:38 Upstairs is where mostly the family is.
36:40 - Is it like a balcony or what is the upstairs?
36:43 What is, how does the center?
36:44 - Well, it's a floor.
36:45 You know, it's another courtroom
36:47 and they seen an overflow with some screens.
36:50 - Oh, they're on the screens.
36:51 - So there's two overflow rooms.
36:53 There's one in 8H is where mostly the family is
36:57 and there's one in 7J, I think, 7J or 7C.
37:01 And then there's a main courtroom, which is 1C.
37:04 1C, you have to have credentials to be in there
37:08 and then you have to be like one of the family members.
37:10 Six family members is allowed in there.
37:13 Then you have the victim's family in there.
37:18 - In the same room?
37:20 - In the same room, but let me tell you
37:21 how they have it situated.
37:23 They have the first row is like media, pool media.
37:27 And then they have the second row
37:29 has the family members of Donovan.
37:32 Then you have a middle row
37:34 and some other family members are there.
37:36 Then in between the defense family, they have security.
37:41 Security is taking up the whole bench.
37:43 It's set, security separates the ones from the back.
37:47 The ones in the back is the defense family.
37:50 - Oh man.
37:51 So what if you try to go to the bathroom?
37:54 You gotta pass them.
37:55 - There's security everywhere.
37:56 There's security everywhere.
37:58 - Yeah, that sounds like it could wind up being pretty bad,
38:01 but I suppose it is.
38:02 - Oh my God.
38:02 I think most of them, and the thing is a lot of them,
38:05 they know each other
38:06 'cause they all from the same neighborhood.
38:08 - Yeah.
38:08 - They know each other, it's just a bad situation.
38:10 - They have to have like barbecue and stuff,
38:13 in the back, passing food around,
38:15 how families, we all get together.
38:17 Black people, we can turn, listen, even morning,
38:19 when we, a funeral,
38:20 we gonna turn that into something.
38:22 It doesn't matter.
38:23 We can turn it all into something.
38:25 So, okay.
38:26 So we, I guess we can, hold on, hold on.
38:30 We seen today, Ms. Sylvia,
38:31 glad they allowed you a seat in the courtroom.
38:34 Ms. Cara Dean says that.
38:36 - Oh yes, finally I'm in the courtroom.
38:40 If you look at Lauren Karn,
38:43 you just see a picture of me.
38:44 I have my black suit and everything.
38:46 I'm in there, I'm in there y'all.
38:48 I'm in there.
38:48 - Yes.
38:49 And actually we are working on,
38:52 infamous Sylvia Cash app.
38:54 We're working on her getting her own stream.
38:58 So we will keep you all posted.
39:00 It's a little, little, you know, maneuvering,
39:02 but you know, she's got the credentials
39:04 and soon and very soon,
39:06 you will be getting it live directly
39:08 from infamous Sylvia herself.
39:10 You will no longer have to go to other places.
39:13 'Cause you wanna support the independent journalist.
39:16 You wanna support the person
39:17 that's been in a room from the beginning,
39:18 not the Johnny come lately.
39:20 - Let me just tell you something too.
39:21 I wanna put air something out.
39:24 - Talk.
39:24 - Now,
39:25 Shade Room, I really wanna call them out.
39:29 They have, they quoted an individual
39:32 who is not even in the courtroom.
39:34 Megan, whatever her name,
39:36 Megan, whatever her name is out in California.
39:39 She tweeted something and she's not even in courtroom.
39:44 But they quote her.
39:47 Listen, Shade Room and all,
39:49 well, I think Shade Room is black owned media.
39:51 I don't know.
39:52 I heard some, maybe they're not.
39:54 You guys need to be, first of all,
39:57 supporting Sylvia because she's out there representing
40:02 and making sure she gets the story from our perspective.
40:05 Second of all, Sylvia has been in the courtroom.
40:07 She has been there from the beginning.
40:09 She knows the full story.
40:11 She's the only one with exclusivity
40:13 with Doug's father that he's willing to talk to.
40:15 - And Yack Gotti's mother too.
40:17 - And Yack Gotti's mother.
40:18 Okay, so she's paid the dues.
40:21 Okay, stop talking to people that don't matter.
40:24 All right, if you wanna talk to people that matter
40:26 and get the real story directly,
40:28 you need to be talking to Sylvia.
40:30 Okay, so let's just put that out there.
40:32 Somebody said, what'd you say?
40:32 Hey, Rachel.
40:33 Rachel says, "Hi, Ms. Sylvia.
40:35 "I watched YSL, that judge was over those layers today."
40:38 What's that mean?
40:39 Was over those layers today.
40:40 Oh, over those lawyers.
40:43 Was all over those lawyers today,
40:44 I think she's trying to say.
40:45 - He's like that all the time.
40:47 All the time, he's like that.
40:48 - Judge Wimble, he seems real like,
40:51 what kind of person is he?
40:53 Like, how does he strike you?
40:55 - He's very strict.
40:57 No, I wouldn't say he's strict.
41:00 To me, he tries to be as fair as possible,
41:04 but I see some bias.
41:06 And the reason why I say that is because
41:11 he gets on the defense side
41:13 and he's just like so hard on them
41:15 and he's so soft on the,
41:17 I don't know if it's because they're women,
41:19 but he's like really soft on them.
41:21 Very soft on them.
41:23 - Judge, we wanna see it,
41:26 make it make sense.
41:28 We gonna need to see everybody in,
41:30 you know, we wanna see it even.
41:32 But you know, the good news is that we've got a jury, right?
41:34 'Cause the judge is only going to,
41:36 this is a jury trial, so it's really,
41:38 the judge is there to moderate everything,
41:41 so we do want him to be fair.
41:44 - But I wanna tell you,
41:46 one of the jurors was super, super late.
41:48 They had to go and look for that juror
41:53 and something happened with their car.
41:55 - Coming back from lunch or just in the morning?
41:57 - No, in this morning.
41:59 This morning, it started at nine o'clock
42:01 and the judge was on the bench
42:02 and we all waiting and...
42:04 - They don't play that.
42:06 If you want jury duty, you better be there.
42:08 They'll come get you at your house.
42:10 Tie you down to the chair.
42:13 - That is jury, they get to go home
42:14 at the end of the day, right?
42:15 Every day they get to go back home.
42:17 - Yes.
42:18 - Okay.
42:19 And of course, we're not seeing the jury on the screen
42:21 because their identities are protected or no?
42:24 Are we seeing the jury?
42:25 - We're told we cannot take any pictures of the jurors.
42:28 We can't talk to the juror.
42:30 You can't do anything.
42:31 Don't even look at it.
42:32 - Right.
42:33 And the jurors are not also being streamed.
42:35 You can't see the jurors in the video stream.
42:37 - Okay.
42:38 No, no.
42:39 - Okay.
42:40 All right, well, we got a long way to go.
42:42 Thank everyone for being here this evening.
42:45 We're gonna be doing twice a day.
42:47 So let's set the schedule.
42:48 Every day between 12 to one, right?
42:50 There's gonna be a break.
42:51 - Yeah.
42:52 - Yeah.
42:53 And we're endeavoring to make sure.
42:56 - For the evenings around this, the 7.30.
42:58 - 7.30.
42:59 Because Atlanta traffic is bananas.
43:02 - Yes, bananas.
43:03 - Yeah.
43:04 So when you get out of things, it's like,
43:06 you still have seven,
43:07 can we get up and get home, get a break,
43:09 refreshing yourself to eight o'clock?
43:11 - Yes.
43:12 - Good time.
43:13 All right, so meet us here every day at eight.
43:14 We're gonna have some guests as well.
43:16 We're gonna bring some attorneys on.
43:18 Never know when one of Sylvia's special,
43:21 you know, exclusive guests will be on.
43:25 So.com will be working directly with Sylvia
43:27 the entire time so that we can make sure
43:29 that we're bringing the hip hop perspective,
43:32 you know, bringing that, you know,
43:33 the world of what the context of all of this is.
43:36 And yeah, we're just gonna do what we do.
43:41 So thank you all for joining us
43:42 and we'll see you tomorrow at about 12, 13?
43:46 - 12, 12, 13.
43:47 - 12, 13, 12, 12, 13.
43:48 Look for us, we'll be live.
43:49 So look out for us
43:50 and also in the evening around 8 p.m. Eastern.
43:53 Thank you, Sylvia.
43:53 Get some rest, my dear.
43:55 - I will, have a good one.
43:57 - All right then, bye.
43:58 - Bye-bye.
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