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01:41 I have them, yes.
01:43 This was in Madrid.
01:45 You came from Barcelona?
01:47 Yes, I did.
01:49 With two from Real Madrid.
01:51 Me and Raúl.
01:53 Yes.
01:55 Juan Pérez, when you were a kid
01:57 what was your favorite number?
01:59 What did the number 10 represent for you?
02:01 Well, for us Argentinians,
02:03 the number 10 is very special.
02:09 When you hear the number 10
02:11 you automatically think of Maradona.
02:13 All our life,
02:15 growing up with football,
02:17 we wanted to be like him.
02:19 Even though
02:21 no one became like him.
02:23 The dream and the desire
02:25 were always that.
02:27 To try to copy
02:29 what Maradona did,
02:31 which was the number 10.
02:33 He was the player
02:35 we admired,
02:37 beyond our age.
02:39 I didn't see Diego much.
02:41 How old were you?
02:43 When Diego
02:45 went to Juve,
02:47 which was
02:49 his final stage,
02:51 I was 6 or 7 years old.
02:53 I don't remember,
02:55 just like in the 1994 World Cup.
02:57 I was young,
03:01 I don't remember.
03:03 Obviously,
03:05 I lived and told
03:07 what Diego meant to us.
03:09 Even though I didn't see him much,
03:11 I didn't hear much,
03:13 but there are people
03:15 who have never seen him play.
03:17 He is our reference, our idol.
03:19 And it's impressive
03:21 the respect
03:23 you had for Diego.
03:25 As you said,
03:27 he is for everyone,
03:29 not just for Argentinians.
03:31 Maradona, as you know,
03:33 was an idol for everyone.
03:35 For everyone.
03:37 So, for you,
03:39 talking about Maradona,
03:41 and especially you,
03:43 with everything you've done,
03:45 7 Ballons d'Or,
03:47 in the end, it's very beautiful.
03:49 Yes, for us,
03:51 Diego is something very strong,
03:53 and he will continue
03:55 to be so for many more years.
03:57 I have no doubt about that.
03:59 Like you,
04:01 I will continue to watch him
04:03 until he is present.
04:05 I've told you,
04:07 it's been generations.
04:09 My children, as I said before,
04:11 know about Diego
04:13 without ever seeing him.
04:15 For the videos,
04:17 for what we tell them.
04:19 And of course,
04:21 for us,
04:23 his figure is very important,
04:25 for everything he represented
04:27 for Argentina,
04:29 for the team.
04:31 It's true that when we were little,
04:33 we wanted to have
04:35 the number 10.
04:37 The team was the leader.
04:39 Yes, he was always
04:41 a different player.
04:43 We all wanted to be different players.
04:45 Different, that's true.
04:47 We all believed we were different players.
04:49 Even if we didn't,
04:51 we all wanted to have
04:53 the number 10.
04:55 Really,
04:57 I don't know if it's true today.
04:59 What?
05:01 I don't know if it's true.
05:03 It's true, it's what we talk about.
05:05 Nowadays, it's not as important
05:07 as it used to be.
05:09 Like you said,
05:11 the number 10 today,
05:13 also the position,
05:15 it's lost a lot.
05:17 If they play 4-3-3,
05:19 4-4-2,
05:21 the number 10 is like...
05:23 The position he had before,
05:25 the hook, as we called it.
05:27 Now, many teams play 4-3-3
05:29 and they're more inside than 10.
05:31 Or the 4-4-2,
05:33 it doesn't go in either.
05:35 It's true that...
05:37 It's a shame you still play
05:39 and that the number 10 still exists.
05:41 Now, it's transformed into inside
05:43 or a false end.
05:45 The number 10 is bad.
05:47 But it's true that our number 10,
05:49 which always characterized
05:51 the Argentine number 10, the half-point, the hook,
05:53 Riquelme, Aymar...
05:55 There's not much of that.
05:57 Or there isn't.
05:59 It's lost a lot.
06:01 And how about your kids?
06:03 My kids love it.
06:05 They love all three.
06:07 They're passionate about football.
06:09 They like the number 10 position, right?
06:11 They're small.
06:13 They like it.
06:15 When they're small,
06:17 they like to go up, score goals.
06:19 Or they have to be born with the crazy archery.
06:21 But generally,
06:23 yes, the beautiful one scores goals,
06:25 is up there.
06:27 But they're small.
06:29 But they're all day with the ball.
06:31 And the oldest, how old is he?
06:33 Thiago turns 11 now in November.
06:35 11.
06:37 Mateo 8 and Ciro 5.
06:39 And all three of them play?
06:41 All three of them, all day.
06:43 But when you were little,
06:45 what was your number 10?
06:47 When you were little, what was your number 10?
06:49 For me,
06:51 because I played for Marseille,
06:53 it was Enzo.
06:55 I've heard that many times.
06:57 Well, even one of your kids.
06:59 Yes, Enzo.
07:01 Because he was in Marseille.
07:03 He played for Marseille.
07:05 And I was like
07:07 3 years old before I went to Canes,
07:09 where I started playing.
07:11 And he played for Marseille.
07:13 When I saw him, I said,
07:15 I want to be like him.
07:17 Because he was very elegant.
07:19 He played like he controlled the ball.
07:21 I mean, you don't see that much.
07:23 I saw that too.
07:25 Little, right?
07:27 Sure, I was young too,
07:29 but in the River era,
07:31 they won everything at that time.
07:33 Because there, he's an idol.
07:35 Yes, I love him.
07:37 Well, he's still there today
07:39 in the club, working.
07:41 And I was also lucky to meet him.
07:43 Yes, I was lucky to meet him.
07:45 He was a great person.
07:47 But yes, also in that time,
07:49 in the River, although I was young,
07:51 I remember that he was crazy.
07:53 And he was also there.
07:55 I don't know if it was his last stage
07:57 in the River.
07:59 Yes.
08:01 When we were in France,
08:03 normally only French,
08:05 there weren't many foreigners.
08:07 And when Enzo came,
08:09 you know, a South American,
08:11 we already saw that it was another football.
08:13 And he played there.
08:15 He did things with the ball.
08:17 He was a magician.
08:19 And I wanted
08:21 to do the same.
08:23 I always said that I
08:25 really liked
08:27 Aymar.
08:29 Well, I was a player with him too.
08:31 Yes, yes, Aymar.
08:33 He played for Valencia.
08:35 A player
08:37 who I loved his way of playing,
08:39 he was in a River
08:41 where he had a great team
08:43 and he stood out a lot.
08:45 And well, going back to the past,
08:47 taking Diego out,
08:49 because Diego was a case apart,
08:51 and for us, first Diego and then the rest,
08:53 Pablo was a person who I admired a lot as a player.
08:55 Even at that time,
08:57 I was not following
08:59 European football so much as a child.
09:01 Obviously, when you grow up,
09:03 you realize more things.
09:05 And there I started
09:07 to see a lot more European football.
09:09 But at that time,
09:11 everything was very local,
09:13 Argentinian.
09:15 And well, Pablo...
09:17 And did you come to Barcelona with whom?
09:19 I arrived with 13 years old.
09:21 But the year?
09:23 2001.
09:25 2001, yes.
09:27 You were talking a little about the number 10,
09:29 what is the number 10,
09:31 the evolution of the number 10,
09:33 what is the number 10,
09:35 what characteristics does it have
09:37 and what are the characteristics of the game?
09:39 Well, a little bit of what we said before,
09:41 I think that football itself
09:43 changed a lot too,
09:45 the way of playing,
09:47 the system,
09:49 where you are already small,
09:51 you start playing 4-3,
09:53 now the line of 3 or 5 is used a lot,
09:55 and the number 10
09:57 that we talked about before,
09:59 which is very characteristic,
10:01 does not enter that system.
10:03 Or it is difficult to put it in.
10:05 And that way
10:07 the formation of those players
10:09 was also lost.
10:11 Well, I don't know,
10:13 from what I see and what I think.
10:15 But the position of number 10,
10:17 anyway, what it has to have
10:19 is a bit of magic,
10:21 like you, like you,
10:23 because it is the leader of the team
10:25 and the leader of the team
10:27 has to create,
10:29 it is what you had
10:31 and what you have, different from the others,
10:33 what you see before the others.
10:35 Number 10 has to do that.
10:37 I was one second,
10:39 or you were three,
10:41 before, three seconds before the others,
10:43 I was one.
10:45 But that for me
10:47 is the difference you have
10:49 with the others,
10:51 people, players, see what you have to do.
10:53 Before receiving the ball,
10:55 you already knew what you were going to do.
10:57 And that little.
10:59 And for me, number 10 has to represent that.
11:01 It is that
11:03 more a team player,
11:05 a team leader does that,
11:07 better for the team.
11:09 And you are what you do.
11:11 Yes, the game also happened a lot
11:13 the day before, right?
11:15 Now that the game happened a lot the day before,
11:17 or it reached all the weight.
11:19 No, always the ball.
11:21 Always the weight of the team.
11:23 We look.
11:25 Do you feel that it has a different weight
11:27 to take 10?
11:29 Or symbolically, is it different?
11:31 I don't know if it's as important
11:33 today in numbers as it was
11:35 in another time.
11:37 But obviously,
11:39 10 is still a special shirt.
11:41 That's it. It's true that
11:43 10 when you put it on,
11:45 it's more pressure.
11:47 But to the one who knows,
11:49 nothing happens, right?
11:51 I guess, I say.
11:53 To the one who knows, nothing happens.
11:55 To the one who doesn't know, if you put 10 on,
11:57 it's more pressure.
11:59 And for me,
12:01 when I had to be in Paris,
12:03 I didn't have 10.
12:05 Well, I was used to always
12:07 wearing 10,
12:09 from many years in Barcelona, the national team.
12:11 Although I didn't care and nothing happened,
12:13 I did miss a little
12:15 having, in quotation marks,
12:17 my number, right?
12:19 Because I had worn it all my life.
12:21 But well, later
12:23 I got used to it too.
12:25 10 was also a significant shirt
12:27 for me. I started playing with 30.
12:29 I debuted with 30
12:31 and I had something
12:33 special too, so to speak.
12:35 But well, that was
12:37 only for you, something special.
12:39 But people only want to see Messi
12:41 with 10.
12:43 If I see Messi on the pitch, I want to see
12:45 10 behind.
12:47 There are players who, for example,
12:49 in Madrid you had Figo,
12:51 10,
12:53 but I didn't care because
12:55 in the end, I liked the number,
12:57 I liked everything.
12:59 Well, in the end, the story is important,
13:01 it's what you do on the pitch.
13:03 And it was important to you, the 5.
13:05 But it was also weird to see another
13:07 Messi with the 5.
13:09 It's true, to see a midfielder
13:11 with the 5 is a little weird.
13:13 But you know
13:15 what happened with that,
13:17 with Florentino, who was the president,
13:19 he doesn't like anything,
13:21 he likes players with 25, 30,
13:23 35. He was
13:25 in the old days,
13:27 from 1 to
13:29 goalkeeper 1,
13:31 and that's it.
13:33 So, Sanchez,
13:35 who had
13:37 the shirt, the 5,
13:39 a defender who was in Madrid,
13:41 he left it,
13:43 and the president, when I saw him there,
13:45 he said, "No, I wouldn't like
13:47 to have a number of 1 to 10."
13:49 And he has it, and I said, "Yes, yes."
13:51 I took the shirt, the 5,
13:53 because he didn't want 25, 30,
13:55 I said, "No, this isn't football."
13:57 He said, "This is American football."
13:59 So, in the end, I took the...
14:01 It wasn't even a injury, more or less,
14:03 what was left.
14:05 Yes, he said, "No, please."
14:07 And I said, "Well, on the first day,
14:09 I'll say yes."
14:11 But in the end, the 5,
14:13 for me, now, you know,
14:15 it's strong, because it's still, for me,
14:17 with Madrid,
14:19 it's good. In the end,
14:21 10 is good, but the 5 is good.
14:23 The 21, for Juve, well,
14:25 I don't remember much
14:27 because of the number.
14:29 You said the 21, but
14:31 I didn't remember much.
14:33 You have to describe Deo in a few words,
14:35 a moment that comes to your mind.
14:37 Deo is a character.
14:39 No, it's just one, magic.
14:41 But really, because in the end,
14:43 and what I like,
14:45 we're not together every day,
14:47 but today is an important day
14:49 for me, to tell him how much
14:51 I admire him, and all the people
14:53 who like football,
14:55 and like these players
14:57 who are different,
14:59 and for me, it's magic.
15:01 Pure magic, in the sense that before the game,
15:03 I knew what I had to do, and above all,
15:05 for me, who understands football,
15:07 seeing someone on the pitch,
15:09 I almost knew what I was going to do.
15:11 You know, like,
15:13 in the connection,
15:15 but when I see him
15:17 doing what he does on the pitch,
15:19 I say, "Wow,
15:21 this is it."
15:23 So, people are what they want to see
15:25 in football.
15:27 Players
15:29 who are few.
15:31 There are, but not like him.
15:33 Few, very few.
15:35 Well, one.
15:37 And you Leo, if there's something that comes to your mind?
15:41 No, well, I...
15:43 It's not because he's here,
15:45 but I've said it many times, for me,
15:47 he's one of the greatest in history.
15:49 I've always admired him,
15:51 I've always liked him.
15:53 I followed him a lot in Madrid,
15:55 I suffered a lot too, because I was
15:57 from Barcelona. I remember the time
15:59 of Madrid,
16:01 the Galacticos,
16:03 the European Cup they won,
16:05 they had a great team,
16:07 how well that team played,
16:09 the quality they had, but he was always
16:11 a different player,
16:13 elegant, art,
16:15 magic, he had it all.
16:17 And I'll say it again, it's not because he's here,
16:19 but because I've said it more than
16:21 once,
16:23 that for me,
16:25 he's one of the greatest
16:27 in history.
16:29 Well, I have a lot of memories of him.
16:31 I remember the goal to Leverkusen
16:33 in the Champions League final,
16:35 the goal to Zurdach he scored,
16:37 the World Cup final, the Brazil final,
16:39 the typical roulette of the footsteps,
16:41 there are some plays,
16:43 Valencia I think,
16:45 he ended up scoring a goal,
16:47 he ended up scoring for Zurdach.
16:49 Well, those are things that
16:51 football fans like.
16:53 I enjoyed it,
16:55 I enjoyed it a lot,
16:57 beyond suffering
16:59 it too, because
17:01 I was and I am
17:03 a Barcelona fan, but
17:05 the great players, they go beyond
17:07 the shirt, the country,
17:09 and it was
17:11 beautiful to see him and
17:13 all that generation of
17:15 players, of teams they had,
17:17 the France team, who were world champions
17:19 also a great team,
17:21 with great players,
17:23 but well, he was, as we said,
17:25 the different, the 10, beyond the fact that he didn't have
17:27 the 10 in the Madrid, he was
17:29 a different player.
17:31 The most important thing is to be an example inside
17:33 and outside the pitch.
17:35 What would you say to the next generation?
17:37 Well,
17:39 the advice is to
17:41 take advantage of the opportunity
17:43 a player can have, because we do
17:45 what we like,
17:47 we like to play football,
17:49 Leo still shows it today,
17:51 to all the people,
17:53 but I,
17:55 as it's been a long time
17:57 since I left it,
17:59 it's to tell
18:01 the people, the kids,
18:03 to take advantage of the opportunity they have,
18:05 and not to do
18:07 nonsense,
18:09 to focus
18:11 on what
18:13 football is, to take advantage of it,
18:15 it's 15, well, it could be
18:17 20 years, as Leo
18:19 who extends his career
18:21 and it's for the good of football, for
18:23 the people, but I say that
18:25 to all the kids, take advantage of the
18:27 opportunity, that sometimes, well,
18:29 you can have two or three,
18:31 but sometimes
18:33 it's just
18:35 one opportunity,
18:37 and you have to
18:39 take advantage of it.
18:41 I think that
18:43 we,
18:45 as I said several times, personally,
18:47 and I think that
18:49 it also happens in his case,
18:51 because of the kind of player he was,
18:53 we were touched,
18:55 we were lucky
18:57 to be chosen, but
18:59 beyond that, there's a
19:01 job, a responsibility,
19:03 a day-to-day, where we
19:05 made all that path
19:07 to try to
19:09 get what
19:11 we got, enjoying it,
19:13 I think that
19:15 we always handle it with respect,
19:17 with humility, what
19:19 they personally taught me
19:21 when I was a kid at home,
19:23 and I think that's the
19:25 most important thing,
19:27 as he said, to take advantage
19:29 of the opportunity, and above all
19:31 to put your head in it, because
19:33 there are many people who have a lot of talent,
19:35 but many stay on the path,
19:37 because talent is not the only thing that counts,
19:39 but work, effort,
19:41 sacrifice, respect,
19:43 luck, there's a lot of luck missing
19:45 in the world of football too, because
19:47 everyone wants to play football,
19:49 it's the sport most desired
19:51 by everyone, and
19:53 there are few opportunities.
19:55 But it's an example,
19:57 I read that, because he still plays,
19:59 it's an example for all these people,
20:01 because their life is this,
20:03 football and family, family and football,
20:05 there's nothing else. Yes, for me it was
20:07 a lifestyle,
20:09 I was clear about what I wanted to do,
20:11 I enjoyed it since I was very young,
20:13 I loved playing football,
20:15 and my head always
20:17 went through everything,
20:19 first football, and then everything else,
20:21 I had my family, my children,
20:23 that's obviously above everything else,
20:25 but then
20:27 football is my life,
20:29 so I repeated it all the time,
20:31 I did everything possible to be well,
20:33 to enjoy it.
20:35 You also have to say that
20:37 even if you focus,
20:39 it's not going to be the same,
20:41 but waiting is good,
20:43 think that you can
20:45 do what Leo does
20:47 on the field,
20:49 you can dream,
20:51 but it's going to be difficult,
20:53 it's the same.
20:55 I think it happens for everything,
20:57 not just in football,
20:59 when you have a dream,
21:01 the only way is to go
21:03 and fight for it,
21:05 I think
21:07 that in the end things come,
21:09 and obviously
21:11 on the road it's hard,
21:13 and you stumble a lot,
21:15 but things happen,
21:17 and you have to go through it.
21:19 I think you keep going
21:21 until you understand
21:23 that it's part of this,
21:25 part of life,
21:27 where you can't always win,
21:29 where difficult moments happen,
21:31 moments of injuries,
21:33 that people also
21:35 have in their work,
21:37 in their day to day,
21:39 in their daily life,
21:41 and this is life,
21:43 getting up, trying again,
21:45 fighting for what you want,
21:47 and that things don't always
21:49 go the way you want,
21:51 but always giving your best
21:53 to try and achieve
21:55 the goal.
21:57 I think that if you give your best
21:59 and try, then the result
22:01 is secondary.
22:03 Obviously we all want to win,
22:05 we all always want the best,
22:07 but as we said before,
22:09 there are a lot of people who play football,
22:11 a lot of teams, a lot of national teams,
22:13 and it's not always the way
22:15 you want it to be.
22:17 But to add something,
22:19 it's something
22:21 that Messi also has,
22:23 Leo,
22:25 it's trusting yourself.
22:27 When you're having a hard time,
22:29 he knew
22:31 that it would come out,
22:33 that a moment would come out,
22:35 and he trusted himself,
22:37 and above all,
22:39 he trusted the others.
22:41 When you have Leo
22:43 on the pitch,
22:45 the others are happy.
22:47 And he had that, you know,
22:49 to say, "No,
22:51 don't worry, I'm here."
22:53 He trusts himself,
22:55 that's important, when you're having a hard time.
22:57 And that's it.
22:59 What would you choose,
23:05 to score a goal in the Champions League
23:07 or the World Cup?
23:09 Would you like to score a goal
23:11 in the Champions League or the World Cup?
23:13 It depends on the moment.
23:15 Of course, it depends on the moment.
23:17 But it's always special
23:19 to score a goal,
23:21 both in European competitions
23:23 and in a World Cup.
23:25 Obviously, in a World Cup,
23:27 it's always more special
23:29 because of the context,
23:31 what it means,
23:33 but it depends on the game.
23:35 Maybe you'll score a goal in the Champions League.
23:37 I have to answer for you, Leo,
23:39 because you scored a goal recently
23:41 against Argentina, in the final.
23:43 Obviously, that goal.
23:45 That's it.
23:47 What was missing.
23:49 Only that goal was missing.
23:51 If I score a goal in the final
23:53 of the World Cup,
23:55 I think it's the best.
23:57 We can both say that.
23:59 Of course,
24:01 you don't have...
24:05 The toughest player you played against.
24:07 Well, not the toughest,
24:09 but the most difficult.
24:11 In the sense that
24:13 he was very good.
24:15 Not tough in the sense
24:17 that he wanted to hit you,
24:19 but the most difficult was
24:21 Paulo Maldini, because he was very smart
24:23 on the field, because sometimes
24:25 I was in front of him
24:27 and well...
24:29 And Turam.
24:31 Turam is...
24:33 He's also tough.
24:35 He's tough.
24:37 I played with Turam.
24:39 Of course, for sure.
24:41 But this one,
24:43 Lilian, tough, tough.
24:45 Strong.
24:47 But when you have him on your team,
24:49 you're happy.
24:51 He's in front of you.
24:53 But you also had a great team in the World Cup.
24:55 Yes.
24:57 In '98,
24:59 all of them.
25:01 Many players
25:03 who played in the best teams.
25:05 Who gave you your first ball?
25:07 Your first ball.
25:09 My dad.
25:11 And the boots too.
25:13 The Montjar Cup, you know?
25:15 But more than the ball,
25:17 because I remember the ball,
25:19 my dad gave me the boots.
25:21 I remember perfectly,
25:23 because they were very expensive.
25:25 And he, well...
25:27 He gave me some money
25:29 to buy me the boots.
25:31 Today I was just talking
25:33 with Seba Saha,
25:35 we were training,
25:37 and we were talking about the sacrifice
25:39 that parents make.
25:41 Today, I'm a father,
25:43 and I'm lucky and I have the time
25:45 to be able to accompany my children
25:47 to training, to pick them up from school.
25:49 The effort and the sacrifice
25:51 that parents make
25:53 for their children,
25:55 the trips to take them to train
25:57 and to work,
25:59 and to run from one place to another
26:01 on the weekends,
26:03 to take them anywhere to play.
26:05 Do you remember that?
26:07 Your dad always took you to play.
26:09 Yes, of course.
26:11 I remember that my mom
26:13 would take me too,
26:15 because my dad couldn't
26:17 because he was working.
26:19 But I remember that my dad
26:21 would get up at 4 in the morning
26:23 and come back at 4 or 5 in the afternoon
26:25 to train.
26:27 And that's how it was almost every week.
26:29 It's a big effort for all the parents
26:31 who do anything for their children.
26:33 And this is a good example
26:35 that there are many parents
26:37 who do anything
26:39 so that their children have a ball.
26:41 It's incredible.
26:43 A game that you would like
26:45 to play again.
26:47 You don't need it.
26:49 They're all very good.
26:51 You don't need them, but well.
26:53 I think, as I said before,
26:55 things happen because they have to happen.
26:57 And I don't regret anything
26:59 in the whole journey
27:01 and the path I had to take.
27:03 I was lucky
27:05 to have a lot of joy,
27:07 sadness on the way
27:09 for not having achieved the goal.
27:11 But if it happened like that,
27:13 it's because it had to be like that.
27:15 But like that, everything.
27:17 The end of 2014
27:19 in the World Cup
27:21 was a bit of a shock.
27:23 Although I was able to
27:25 draw it a little later
27:27 with this World Cup.
27:29 Yes.
27:31 Well, you made it in 2022.
27:33 Yes, but well.
27:35 You changed the story.
27:37 That's it.
27:39 Difficult.
27:47 Which one would you say
27:49 was the most difficult?
27:51 Well, it's the same. It's complicated.
27:53 I've chosen one.
27:55 There was a game
27:57 when I was in the IJV.
27:59 A game against Ajax.
28:01 Yes.
28:03 A Champions League semi-final.
28:05 We won in Torino 4-1
28:07 and there was 4-1 there.
28:09 And well, for me...
28:11 Because there aren't many people
28:13 who remember...
28:15 Yes, I thought you were going to say...
28:17 The World Cup.
28:19 Brazil.
28:21 To score a goal or to make an incredible pass?
28:25 And beautiful. Which do you prefer?
28:27 I can answer for you.
28:29 I like both.
28:31 But sometimes a pass
28:33 is more beautiful than a goal.
28:35 Many times.
28:37 A beautiful pass
28:39 ends up being better than a goal.
28:41 And sometimes it's nice to make
28:43 a good pass and a goal.
28:45 You made a good pass
28:47 and a goal.
28:49 You made many goals.
28:51 Well, a small goal.
28:53 That shirt.
29:11 No, no, no.
29:13 No, no, no.
29:15 No, no, no.
29:17 It's not much.
29:19 It's not much.
29:21 I'd like to put...
29:23 Thank you.
29:25 Thank you very much.
29:27 Terrible.
29:29 Terrible shirt.
29:31 It was a beautiful shirt.
29:33 It stuck there.
29:35 And this one too.
29:39 It was a very nice shirt.
29:41 Thank you.
29:43 Thank you.
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