In this episode of In The Spotlight, I'm very delighted to introduce to you my good friend @KevinChanBazi . He does Chinese Metaphysics and on YouTube and other social media platforms, he introduces the fundamentals and mechanisms of action of Chinese Metaphysics in both English and Cantonese which are especially helpful for many people, especially English speaking individuals, to understand and learn more about Chinese Metaphysics.
I would also like to congratulate Kevin for reaching 10,000 Subscribers on YouTube, an important milestone to helping even more people. I met Kevin in a very unexpected way. One day, I got invited to a fashion show as a VIP Content Creator / Influencer. I'm someone who doesn't know much about fashion but I tried my best to look the part by wearing the ONLY fashionable outfit I had in my wardrobe, my Wedding Tuxedo.
Not far from where I was standing, I was looking at an equally blur, not very friendly, and confused face of another person, standing by a light pole, who probably understands just as much fashion as me. I approached him and there were some awkward moments (Ray Mak is weird and always make people uncomfortable) but we quickly realize we were on the same boat and we went for dinner and beer with a few other friends, same boat minions, instead of staying for the entire fashion show.
In this episode of In The Spotlight, we talked about how Kevin started his early morning Livestreams and how he pivoted from writing blogs into Livestreaming and making videos. He shared about his setup and how important is streamlining his livestream processes. Here you'll be learning more about livestream processes, starting a channel, and how to have the least amount of resistance towards creating contents.
On the side, Kevin love visiting different restaurants and bars to wine and dine. He has a steadily growing Instagram page called EatinGods, which is also available on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@eatingods . People would stumble upon good restaurants on his page and save them for future. After all, there are so many amazing restaurants in Malaysia, and other countries, that are yet to be discovered.
PS : Kevin is also the catalyst, push, idea and brains behind In The Spotlight. Like many introverts that look like extroverts, I'm someone who have a lot of fear talking to the camera but I'm very blessed to have many good friends who have much more to offer to the society than me, which I've never taken the time to realize, until I met Kevin.
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I would also like to congratulate Kevin for reaching 10,000 Subscribers on YouTube, an important milestone to helping even more people. I met Kevin in a very unexpected way. One day, I got invited to a fashion show as a VIP Content Creator / Influencer. I'm someone who doesn't know much about fashion but I tried my best to look the part by wearing the ONLY fashionable outfit I had in my wardrobe, my Wedding Tuxedo.
Not far from where I was standing, I was looking at an equally blur, not very friendly, and confused face of another person, standing by a light pole, who probably understands just as much fashion as me. I approached him and there were some awkward moments (Ray Mak is weird and always make people uncomfortable) but we quickly realize we were on the same boat and we went for dinner and beer with a few other friends, same boat minions, instead of staying for the entire fashion show.
In this episode of In The Spotlight, we talked about how Kevin started his early morning Livestreams and how he pivoted from writing blogs into Livestreaming and making videos. He shared about his setup and how important is streamlining his livestream processes. Here you'll be learning more about livestream processes, starting a channel, and how to have the least amount of resistance towards creating contents.
On the side, Kevin love visiting different restaurants and bars to wine and dine. He has a steadily growing Instagram page called EatinGods, which is also available on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@eatingods . People would stumble upon good restaurants on his page and save them for future. After all, there are so many amazing restaurants in Malaysia, and other countries, that are yet to be discovered.
PS : Kevin is also the catalyst, push, idea and brains behind In The Spotlight. Like many introverts that look like extroverts, I'm someone who have a lot of fear talking to the camera but I'm very blessed to have many good friends who have much more to offer to the society than me, which I've never taken the time to realize, until I met Kevin.
Follow @KevinChanBazi
YouTube : https://www.youtube.com/kevinchanbazi
YouTube : https://www.youtube.com/@eatingods
TikTok : https://www.tiktok.com/@kevinchanbazi
Instagram : https://www.instagram.com/kevinchanbazi
Instagram : https://www.instagram.com/eatingods
Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/kevinchanbazi
Twitter : https://twitter.com/kevinchanbazi
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00:00 a unique experimental white rat. That year, the end of the year, my company announced them selling
00:07 off the company the Chinese version of astrology so you go like
00:11 then you have to be Chinese astrology that speak English only so you go
00:19 Feng Shui side is slightly a little bit difficult to make content is that because
00:28 Hey, welcome to another episode of in the spotlight. Today we have Kevin Chan.
00:42 Hi guys, how you all doing?
00:45 Oh, hello everybody. Super good morning. Happy Sunday to you all. Kevin Chan here again.
00:56 Today 7.30 in the morning again and this is Kevin Chan here bringing you live another one more
01:02 session. Hello, good morning 7.30 in the morning again. This is Kevin Chan bringing you live another
01:06 session. So a little bit about Kevin Chan. Actually this program in the podcast was one of his brain
01:13 child for your information. So one day we were just talking and he's like, hey, since you know
01:21 so many content creator, why not make a podcast that can create value and bring value to a lot of
01:30 different people who may be very interested to become content creators as well. It's like a
01:37 very new economy thing. So yeah, so thanks to him. I started this and if you remember if you
01:45 went to if you go back to the first episode, I was actually quite reluctant and very very
01:52 uncomfortable to do this because I seldom talk to the camera. You guys have been with me for
01:59 the past many years. I've been on YouTube for 18 years and I have never actually spoken to the
02:06 camera. I just play the piano. So this was actually something very uncomfortable for me to start
02:15 but I hope that it brings value to you and if you find value in this podcast and my previous podcast,
02:24 please do consider subscribing. Thank you very much. So yeah, Kevin, tell us a little bit on
02:32 how you got started in content creation because I remember in the past you wrote blogs.
02:41 So it's like more of a writing thing and then now you have videos as well. So I think this
02:46 video content creation thing, it was started because of the grand old pandemic. I got
02:51 absolutely nothing to do at that point in time. So what I did was that I just took the camera and
02:59 really just take the camera and point at myself and started talking to the camera, so really
03:05 handphone camera. So you want to see those videos, you can scroll down to the bottom oldest video.
03:10 It's all still there. You can see from the camera to really using the computer camera.
03:17 Hello, good morning everybody. It's Kevin again broadcasting to you live. I even done something
03:25 really, you know, if right now you take a look, I use the camera and point it onto the computer
03:33 for people to see slides. I never did that before. There you go. Have a look at it. Right, so let's
03:39 have a look at Kong Bination right now. So that's how the entire journey basically started out. It
03:47 was pre-pandemic, right? So then we have all the videos and you know, of course, you know, today
03:53 today a bit special because you know, I just reached 10,000. It's a celebration.
03:59 People took four months to reach, I reached four years.
04:03 Don't say that. Don't say that. Yeah, we all have our own time, you know. Yeah, and because the
04:10 topic that you usually talk about is considered quite niche. So that's why it may not be as easy
04:17 to grow, you know, compared to things like for example, music, comedy, those kind of things.
04:22 Maybe you can tell us a little bit about your niche. Right, so I'm actually a practitioner in
04:29 this thing called Chinese metaphysics. So if this jargon term is a bit more foreign to all of you,
04:35 right, so in normal circumstances, we just go out and tell people we are the Feng Shui guy.
04:40 You go like, oh, Feng Shui. It's just that the difference is that Chinese metaphysics is actually
04:46 a very, very broad spectrum skill set, right? So we have a lot of things that we practice,
04:52 like for example, Bazi. It's going to be something that's very rare for you. You don't hear this word
04:57 being used a lot. Feng Shui is part of them. And another one is basically achievement. So there
05:02 are different, different skill set that we use to assist people in making decision, in understanding
05:08 the environment, what's the impact to the environment, and also understanding the dynamic
05:13 between the people that working with, right? So that's what I basically help people with is to
05:18 understand the dynamics of what is happening around you and hence allow you to make decision
05:25 in a more informed manner. And you know that, alright, so what is the impact of the decision
05:30 that I'm making? And more importantly is that you start to have the awareness to see that,
05:35 you know, if I'm making this sort of decision, I would have been expecting this thing to happen.
05:41 So when the things is happening, it triggers you and you know that what you are supposed to
05:47 follow up in terms of decision making. So that's what I do.
05:51 Oh, so this niche is considered so niche, but at the same time so broad and so educational.
06:00 How do you make it interesting, you know, for like people to follow and learn at the same time?
06:08 So now just to describe how niche is the niche thingy, right? So in all the topic you have,
06:15 you have one topic called astrology. So we are under astrology, right? So you can see that
06:20 astrology is already very, very, very small. Then you're talking about the Chinese version
06:27 of astrology. So you go like, then you have to be Chinese astrology that speak English only.
06:40 Right. So I personally like to make topic that is what we call a bit more on the advanced side.
06:47 So it is a bit more on the explanatory part of the site. So it is even much more smaller,
06:54 the audience. So those are the content I mean, it's usually more, if you take a look at it,
07:00 it is more on the academic side of things, right? It's really explaining the mechanism behind the
07:06 working of all the Chinese metaphysics knowledge instead of just, you know, telling you like
07:12 normal, what I call happy session. When I talk happy session with friends, you know, I just tell
07:16 you, "Heng Ong Fad, you're good, you know, this year, right? You're happy, I'm happy." So those
07:20 are called happy session, right? So I don't do that. I usually go into more deeper explanation
07:25 of, you know, how the entire thing works. So that's why it becomes super, super niche for people.
07:31 So it's either you are an enthusiast who really want to know how this thing works,
07:36 then you'll be following me, right? So if you are, you know, just want the
07:40 happy information, you know, I can recommend some other people.
07:43 I see, understand. So how did you get into this niche? And then how do you find out that, "Oh,
07:55 I'm actually passionate in this niche." Because before the video thing, I know that you have been
08:01 writing a lot as well. Yeah. Right. So now what happened, the funny thing is that, you know, I'm
08:06 not a Chinese educated person, so I can't read Chinese. I can't write Chinese. So, and this
08:13 entire thing is basically in the very, very, very Chinese realm. So if traditionally, if you were
08:19 to study this, you really need to know how to read Chinese because all the prescribed textbook
08:25 is all in Chinese. So it's going to be very difficult. So now what happened here is that,
08:29 you know, when one day I was walking around the shopping complex, so I came across a book,
08:35 so I came across a book, pick up the book and then start reading. It's like, "Hey,
08:39 this thing looks interesting. I think I can read. I can actually learn this stuff." So the author was
08:47 pretty awesome. So you write things that I can understand. So after reading, reading for some
08:51 time, "Hey, this looks like the Chinese thing that I saw in the movie." Then I went and checked,
09:02 checked, checked and said, "Really, really, it's a Chinese thing in the movie." Then, you know,
09:05 that basically sparked a bit of things. I asked, I tell myself that, "Hey, you're a Chinese, right?
09:10 You have zero Chinese culture inside you. Zero. Right. So you don't know. So this one is what
09:15 they call banana. Banana. Like me. Yellow skin, yellow skin outside, inside all English, all
09:20 white color. So got nothing about Chinese that I know. I don't practice anything that is Chinese.
09:26 Can't read, can't write. And then finally I said, "This is something that my forefather left." And
09:31 you know, there's this English version that I can actually understand. So the entire series of the
09:37 book was like, there were five books on that thing. I went to the, what we call the bookstore.
09:44 I actually finished reading three of the series without paying for it.
09:49 But that basically tells me that, you know, "Hey, you know, this one can be done." And
09:53 subsequently what happened is that, behind the book, usually they got promo code one, right?
09:57 All right. Shameless to say that I stole the promo code. Didn't even buy it. Right. So,
10:02 and then, you know, I went and registered for one of the events. So, you know, got free tickets.
10:06 So went over for the event and what happened, you know, so like normal people who went over the
10:12 event, happy, happy, watch all the event thingy, you know, then the event that time was, you know,
10:16 telling you that, "Oh, if you've got this particular animal sign, this year, your career is
10:21 in problem." You know, those are, you know, those are how, you know, normally it works, right? So,
10:26 and I don't know whether I'm going to call it bad or whether I'm going to call it no really good
10:31 thing is that, that year, the end of the year, my company announced them selling off the company.
10:37 So we were bought over by another larger company. So we are the second biggest in the market. So
10:43 the one that I work for, right? So the, the top biggest in the market bought over. So it was
10:49 eventuality that the management in the smaller one will be axed off. So I headed the project of
10:56 axing off people somehow. Wow, that must be tough. In the end, in the end, you know, what happened
11:01 is that, you know, that eventually, you know, you'll be, you'll be, you'll be saying goodbye
11:06 with everybody as well. So that is where I starting to be a bit more serious in looking at my own
11:13 information and I start to see that, right? So these are things that
11:16 eventually going to happen, right? So then, you know, and then this, you know, what is my
11:21 talents, what all those things. So I started to do a switcher, right? So the good part of it is
11:28 that I had a lot of head time to do it, right? So, and then I, I fully utilized the entire period
11:34 that, you know, I was, it's called leisurely in the company. So they literally don't give you
11:40 anything to do. Okay. Right. So I use the entire leisure time to study and also to slowly switch
11:47 over. So by the time it reaches the point whereby, you know, right. So you have to have a talk with
11:52 each other, right? So I've already, you know, read it and then I said, it's fine. No, it's okay. You
11:56 know, don't worry. So that's where I switch over. Can you describe a little bit about your content
12:05 because you have like different, like long forms, then you also have like, like, for example,
12:09 Feng Shui, 10 types of bath houses, those kinds of things, which I find very interesting. I actually
12:17 listened to all the... Thank you. Thank you. So basically, his videos is something to me,
12:27 it's like a podcast because usually I learn things when I'm driving. So I would just turn on
12:32 and then I would drive my kids to school and all those things. And then I get to learn a lot of
12:37 things. So maybe you can tell us a little bit about the different type of contents that you have.
12:42 So not many, right. Just now Ray was saying that, you know, I started off writing blog. So now what
12:48 happened when the writing blog was that, you know, I was attending classes at that point in time.
12:52 Right. So to me, when I learn is that, you know, I need to, what we call repeat the information.
12:57 So what I did was I took the textbook and actually start to type the textbook onto the podcast,
13:01 onto the blog. So that's how I do, you know, it's basically academic textbook writing. So after
13:07 some time of writing already, then, you know, this is where I met Ray. Right. So he was saying,
13:13 oh no, there's this thing called YouTube. At that point in time, I don't even know YouTube.
13:16 Nevermind. Later we go into that. But anyway, right. So then he said, you know, oh, video,
13:23 I have to do video, video, this video, that video. I was like him at that point in time, video.
13:30 Reluctant. Right. So reluctant, how to do what to do. Right. So now same thing. I just started,
13:36 what happened? Take all my content in blog, started reading, started reading, started talking
13:43 about the content in blog. So it's just basically changing all the blog content into video format.
13:48 So the difference is just a talking head with a camera. Right. So then again, it evolved into
13:54 the point in time whereby, you know, it's like just me talking only is going to be very difficult.
13:58 So I need slide. So I need to show things to people. So that's where I take the camera and
14:04 point it to the camera, point it to the computer laptop. Absolutely. Right. Then after some time,
14:12 then only, you know, I go into doing streaming software. So when streaming software, that time
14:16 I can merge a few screens together already. Right. So then it looked more proper. And I think people
14:21 are easier to follow, you know, when there is a graphic, because whatever I do is,
14:25 is pretty graphic incentive. So it's just purely talking is very difficult for people to imagine
14:34 what to see. Right. So that's where, you know, then the content can basically break into.
14:39 I usually only got two big chunk of content, which is easier. One is the puzzle side of it. Right.
14:47 So I got more content on that. Then there is the Feng Shui side of it. Right. So Feng Shui side is
14:54 slightly a little bit difficult to make content is that because a lot of people don't want their
15:00 information on their house to be released out. So that have to be a bit more careful. Right. So
15:06 even if I share the environment, right, a lot of people actually can identify that environment very
15:11 quickly. Then, you know, you might get scared that other people might find out where your house is.
15:17 Unless you don't mention like the name of the person. No need to mention also, you know,
15:21 oh, I know this place is where, where, where, where, where, where, where. True, true, true.
15:24 You know, whoever see, you know, have a bit of a, you know, it's like, oh, look like where I stay is
15:29 being exposed by people. You know, you have that particular, you know, concern. So that's on the
15:34 Feng Shui side. Right. Unless you are not being too specific in the location, you can maybe say
15:42 like, oh, this kind of door and all those things, which I really enjoy. Even in the location also,
15:47 you know, we have to be careful if there's something that's really bad in that location.
15:50 And if I mention it, if you happen to be staying in that particular place,
15:54 you might go into a bit of a panic. Right. So those are, you know, considerations that,
15:59 you know, I need to put into that. So that's why sometimes not too easy to do content on,
16:05 you know, this sort of topic that involves people, involve people around. So it's not that easy.
16:13 So I'm actually still finding a way to do Feng Shui content, which is a bit more what we call
16:20 neutral driven. Right. So that it doesn't affect people's livelihood too much.
16:26 Then along the way, what kind of challenges that you will be facing, like in making videos,
16:37 because you have been writing, you know, then now it's like a pivot to making videos.
16:42 Actually, making video is actually much simpler than writing because my writing not really that
16:47 good. Frankly speaking, my writing not really that good. Right. So, and writing sometime, I
16:54 don't know, sometimes find it very difficult to find the right wording to actually express what
17:03 you need to write. So in video somehow is easier. Somehow, I don't know, maybe it's the working of
17:10 the brain. Right. So as long as I'm talking, I can talk quite well, but you ask me to sit down and
17:16 write something, you know, can't. By the way, I cannot do pre-recorded video. I can't. Right. So
17:22 I tried last time doing pre-recorded, you know, those that normally you watch on YouTube are all
17:27 pre-recorded video, you know, then it's heavily edited, blah, blah, blah, whatever it is. Right.
17:31 I find it very, very difficult to do. Right. So especially when you have scripts in front of me,
17:36 prompter, you know, I can't do those, you know, give me a million year. Right. So they're sort
17:41 of impromptu talking. I'm okay. I'm fine with it. So that's why I prefer to do live, live session.
17:47 Right. So people say that, you know, oh, you don't do pre-production. It's a live, there's no
17:50 pre-production. Right. So it's just one shot. Everything is done in one shot. Then I just close
17:55 my eyes, you know, just leave it. That is how I do it. Right. So, you know, I don't know about
18:01 other people. Right. So that's my preference. Right. So now talk about challenges. Actually,
18:06 not many, because I don't have much expectation. I don't have much expectation. Then, you know,
18:14 there's basically not much pressure. No, so it's like, I don't have a production crew. No,
18:18 I don't have to chase after numbers. Right. Right. So now, obviously, guys, you know, I took four
18:23 years to reach 10K, you know, it's like numbers is not really something that I chase after. Right.
18:28 So, and then also, you know, I, I don't have a team of people that I need to feed. Right. So
18:34 those sort of, you know, so haters also don't have many. Right. So also don't have many because
18:39 the channel is small. Right. So although our industry, we like to poke each other, that's
18:44 very normal. Right. So, but I am saying that I'm fortunate that I don't really have a lot of these
18:51 haters, you know, coming in, throwing stuff at me. And also at the same time, also,
18:56 frankly speaking, I don't really read all the comments. I can't. Right. So I can't read all
19:03 the comments. So many comments. So that's why, you know, even if there's probably some bad comments
19:08 in there that I might have missed. Right. So I completely don't know, but I'm really fortunate
19:13 that, you know, my, my fan base is all very, very loving people. They're all very, very loving
19:18 people. Not really a big thanks to all my fans who wake up at 7.30 in the morning.
19:29 Right. So, yes, I did my, I think I did my broadcast is at 7.30 in the morning, 7.30 in the morning. So
19:34 it's a very odd hour to do broadcast. It's a time whereby in every Saturday, 7.30 in the morning,
19:39 got people wake up to watch you, man. Amazingly got. So that's, you know, that's the amazing part.
19:45 Right. So I think that one, so if you're really talking about, you know, got any challenges or not,
19:50 seriously, no, other than internet connection. I think the biggest roadblock that I've got is
19:57 our, our brother, Facebook decided to ban me for singing, which I didn't sing.
20:01 I'm actually still on the ban list for 28 countries for violation of copyright for using
20:09 certain music. Right. So, so I got 28 countries cannot see my content in Facebook. Okay. So I
20:14 don't know why I don't sing at all. There's no singing, just talking head like this. Right. So,
20:19 you know, I've asked, you know, click the, you know, what we call a don't agree with you button
20:26 for some time. And even sometime if I do a live broadcast on Facebook, they will cut it halfway,
20:32 halfway, they would drag the entire cast down. I think that one, you want to call challenges,
20:37 you call challenges. But to me is nothing. I just moved myself to YouTube. Yeah. Right. I mean,
20:44 this, this one, I can actually relate and explain because with the Facebook system,
20:51 they do not actually have anything that, like, for example, to compensate people for the
20:57 copyrighted materials, like for example, copyright, the songs and all those things.
21:02 So they will use their automatic AI algorithm to try to detect. So if let's say when we are
21:10 speaking, you know, if let's say Cantonese or English, there are a lot of like different
21:15 like intonation, those kinds of things. We have different like Cantonese, we have 16
21:21 different, what do you call that? The levels of intonation, those kind of things. And it may be,
21:28 we sound like we are singing, you know, so the Facebook algorithm will automatically cut off
21:34 and then the bots will just take out everything. Like even I play music or there is music in my
21:42 video, that can be a problem. Okay. That can be a problem with Facebook. On the other hand,
21:48 like for other platforms like TikTok, Instagram, no, not Instagram. So TikTok,
21:53 YouTube, they actually have a system that compensates the music producer. So they are
22:02 more lenient. If they really detect a song, they will say, what song is that? And then they would
22:08 share the monetization. Instead of cutting it out, they will share the monetization of this
22:16 entire content with the original music owner. And that is provided if you go and click,
22:23 yeah, this is actually that music, or you can actually dispute it. So the system of YouTube
22:28 is way better when it compared to Facebook, when it comes to this kind of wrongly filing
22:38 copyrighted material. So that's why I also prefer to use YouTube. Another thing is because
22:45 YouTube definitely has a faster server compared to Facebook. If you notice, if you do live on
22:53 Facebook and on Instagram, it's actually a lot slower. And sometimes it lags.
22:59 Yeah, I can see the feed screen.
23:02 So this is the internal information for your information that YouTube, their server is a lot
23:10 faster when it comes to. So that's why I always push Kevin to do it on YouTube. If you want,
23:17 then you can actually copy it over to Facebook and have both things. So what about the slides?
23:25 Do you face any problem with making so many slides?
23:28 Initially, got. But the front part of it, I've actually created a bunch of slides,
23:38 really a lot, created a lot of slides. So right now it's pretty easy because I got so many backups,
23:47 it's called backups. The topic cannot finish, the topic can't finish. So I just got so much
23:53 slides that's prepared. It's just like every day, just take a look at this or this particular topic,
23:58 I can layer Chinese metaphysics into it. I see this topic, I can layer Chinese metaphysics into
24:03 it. So I just keep on taking other people's topic and then just slot Chinese metaphysics.
24:08 This one is whatever. So it become, to me, become very routine already. So it's okay for me.
24:17 So even if you take a look, actually all my slides are the same slide, exact same template,
24:21 no run, it's just different info. So that's why I don't really need to think of a lot of things. I
24:28 don't do everything completely new. So I like content creators like them who like to do
24:33 everything completely new. Because of my corporate work, I templatize a lot of things. So everything
24:39 is templatized. I probably have six different versions of different templates. So I say that
24:44 oh this one is this sort of info, I use this template. This one is this sort of info, I use
24:49 this template. So it's pretty quick and I usually do very big topic, then I cut it into small chunk.
25:00 So it becomes a lot of topic. So I just need to conceptualize a really huge topic
25:07 and do one really huge slide. Then I just do the slide as in it go part by part. So that one I just
25:16 break the slide into different parts and do a menu on the slide. And then so today I talk about
25:20 this and click this menu. That's it done. So I don't need to do a lot of things.
25:25 So which means in this niche you will never run out of topic to talk about.
25:29 No, if you run out of topic, it's pretty difficult. Because whether you like it or not,
25:38 the Chinese metaphysics has been around for thousands of years. So it's 1000 of years,
25:44 there's going to be a lot of things for you to talk about. So I'm only 40.
25:52 There's plenty of things. So if I just pick every single classical text and start explaining to you
26:00 all the classical texts, that would take me a lifetime to explain to you. So
26:03 you can't run out of topic. So that is also why I chose Chinese metaphysics as a profession.
26:11 Because why I would definitely be able to do the same thing for an extended long amount of time.
26:18 And I also tell them that the older the better. So one day I have that long white colour,
26:23 then I start to do like this and then start that. I think your life is good.
26:29 We wait for that day. So you have been doing this almost if not every morning.
26:39 Do you have any burnout that you feel?
26:44 Also not because I have been waking up quite early in the morning because I need to
26:49 ferry my children to their school. So it's basically morning, wake up, prepare breakfast
26:56 for them, then after that, take them, throw them over to the school. Then come back,
27:02 I got nothing to do. Nothing to do, then just do broadcast. So it's just part of the thing.
27:12 If you are doing it deliberately just to wake up to do, then it's very burnout. So a lot of time
27:18 also I tell people is that if you try to do anything, don't try to do anything that
27:23 you require too much effort. So like a lot of this content creation, I see today a lot of,
27:32 I don't know whether you guys see, YouTube, a lot of old school YouTubers starting to come out and
27:38 tell you that they are not doing this burnout. It's because a lot of things that they do is very
27:43 deliberate. They have to purposely seek. But if you are doing everything that is really under your
27:50 routine, it's like normally you're already doing already, there's chances of burnout is very low.
27:55 So it's what happens is that you are doing the thing that you are doing, only additional thing
28:00 is that I add a camera, that's it. So then that becomes easier because your brain don't actually
28:07 tell you that you are deliberately doing something. I think that's the only difference
28:13 between me and other people because it's already something I already woke up in the morning. So I'm
28:18 not purposely waking up. I've already done some work, then all the things, it's just that particular
28:25 period of time is really nothing to do. So I just make it more productive by having a session.
28:33 And also at that point in time when I was starting, I needed the practice. So at that point in time,
28:39 I'm not well versed to talking to, you can say talking to public. And also why I chose 7.30 is
28:47 that it is purposely chosen that time because I was expecting nobody to come in. That's the
28:53 entire expectation. Because got people come in, you are even more stressed. Because you don't know
28:59 how to handle crowd. So I was like, you know, that one is that because I was saying myself, I can't do
29:04 video, I can't do pre-recorded video, very tough for me, you know, do a lot of things went wrong,
29:10 but I can do live. I do live really well. So what happened is that I just click the live button,
29:14 I just use the session as recording, you see. So my expectation was, please, you know, don't get
29:20 too many people come in, nobody come in at that point in time. So then I started, you know, started
29:26 to basically talk to the wall. So that gave me room to practice the talking, practice everything.
29:33 So that give me a bit of time to practice. Then eventually, we got people coming in.
29:38 Then only I started, I know, I can interact with the people a little bit, you know, can say hi,
29:45 hello, you know, how things work. So I think that is how it slowly evolved. So like right now, I'm
29:52 very, very used to looking at a chat screen going. So some people find it very difficult.
29:56 So some people find it very difficult where the chat screen keep on scrolling up. So I can scan
30:02 the chat screen pretty fast and, you know, I can basically like talking to you. So there are other
30:07 people that have got Q&A session. I say that whether you got Q&A session, never mind, you got
30:11 question, you just ask, I will just answer on the spot. So which means that I can already slot answer
30:18 in from the presentation. So the presentation is just, you know, something to show you. So a lot
30:24 of time they ask question, I just chit chat with them. So that's usually how the live session will
30:29 go. Wow. So you have already set up your setup in a way that is easy to just, you know, after you
30:39 come back, you just turn on the computer. Everything is basically set up. So I have a three
30:44 screen setup. So I got one screen, two screen and three screen all together. So all the
30:49 all the software, everything is basically already synced. It's just putting up into the
30:54 docking station, you know, and that's it. The camera is all fixed. All of them doesn't move.
30:59 So you just basically come back, turn on the screen software, turn on the YouTube, open it up
31:06 and then just click screen, then, you know, get it fired up. So it's pretty easy.
31:12 That is very important. A lot of people, they would like, oh, I have to go through so much effort
31:17 to shoot a video and then they end up not shooting. So when you actually set up something
31:22 that in a way that is so easy, like, for example, if you want to go jogging, then you just put the
31:27 shoes that is easiest to reach and then you just go out. So that's what I think you are doing.
31:33 So that's why you can. So it's like for me, even the wall at the back of my place is painted green.
31:39 It's painted ugly green. So the entire wall painted green already by me. So it's like, you know,
31:45 I don't need to fiddle with green screen, all those kind of things is not there. The camera is
31:50 basically fixed dead at the place. You know, the mic is all fixed. Everything is fixed.
31:56 So that particular place is basically is my working station.
32:02 So if there is other people who wish to be like you, can you give us three advice that
32:11 they can do something similar to you? I think first of all, get started.
32:17 Get started. The rest of the thing, don't bother. Just get started.
32:21 Yeah, that's the most difficult part. You just get started, right? So get started. And then
32:26 second thing is that, okay, you need experimental white rat. You have to. So this one doesn't
32:34 really matter which you are doing. I always describe to people is that, you know, if you're
32:38 going to bake cookie, how many batch you need to bake before your cookie is edible? Then you need
32:43 to think of how many neighbors and relative you need to distribute the cookie to until they don't
32:49 get in trouble with the cookie. Same thing with you. So a lot of time is that, you know,
32:55 you need a lot of practice. So this is the thing, right? So I also practice in front of the
33:00 camera just to practice talking, just to practice talking. So you can see that, you know, you need
33:06 the amount of practice. So please don't get so what we call caught up with the thing. What if
33:13 I'm not good enough? Yeah, must be perfect. So I can tell you is that, you know, confirm not good
33:18 enough. So it's all right. Just get started. Do enough of a practice, do enough of a practice.
33:25 And you know, the important thing is that you really need to enjoy doing the thing. You need
33:30 to enjoy the process. So that's what a lot of those matrices that people give you, you know,
33:35 is that how number of like, how many viewers, right? So whatever income they're talking about,
33:40 you try to put those aside first, because if you can't continue without all these kind of things,
33:46 it's going to be even more difficult when you have these kind of things and it start to dwindle.
33:54 You will reach a stage whereby, you know, all these things start to dwindle. It's even more
33:59 difficult for you to continue. So you have to do something that you really enjoy and you don't
34:04 find it to be a chore. Your success rate is going to be much more high because people can see that
34:11 you actually pretty enjoy and okay. You know, it's like Ray playing piano. It's like effortless.
34:17 Yeah, he's effortless in playing piano. You know, if you ask me to play one song,
34:22 you kill me also cannot finish the first verse. It's different. It's very different. To him,
34:27 it's very, very easy. You know, to him, he just listens to the song one time, you know, he say,
34:31 "Ah, I can play already." You see him go tong, tong, tong, tong, tong, and then it's like,
34:36 "What the hell?" So to him, it's so effortless that it's not pressuring for him to do anything.
34:44 Right, so you have to go and do this. So this one is really doesn't matter which industry,
34:49 whatever you want to do, you know, whether content creation or whatever it is, you have to enjoy and
34:54 you have to enjoy the process. And frankly, it's that those influencers that I know, content
34:58 creator that we actually know, right, it is during the period whereby they enjoy the most is that
35:03 they did the best. And when they go a bit more to the commercial side, this is where you see them
35:10 become very unhappy. Really, they become very unhappy, you know, it's very pressuring to them
35:16 right now that they need to chase after certain commercial thing that they can't do the thing
35:23 that they like to do anymore. So that's why, you know, the really the tips I tell you that really,
35:28 if you enjoy doing that thing, what you need to do is just to put a camera in front of it. That's it.
35:34 Continue to do the things that you enjoy and don't care about the camera.
35:39 Cool. Wow. Thank you so much for the session and the words of wisdom. I hope you guys
35:48 enjoy this session and learn a lot. And of course, when you learn, you apply.
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