On the latest episode of Talkin' C's, Bobby Krivitsky, Jack Simone, and Sam LaFrance shared their take on Jaylen Brown's altercation with Duncan Robinson, broke down Boston's Super Bowl Sunday win over the Heat, and previewed the Celtics' two-tilt mini-series vs. the Nets.
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00:00:00 And we are back with another edition of Talkin' Cs with Bobby Kravinsky of SI Media Group.
00:00:13 Bobby, how are you doing today?
00:00:15 Doing fantastic. Had some successful prop bets with Super Bowl Sunday. So, you know,
00:00:20 it wasn't the outcome that Patriots fans wanted to see, but Mahomes is undeniable. So shout
00:00:25 out to him and the Chiefs.
00:00:27 I hate the Patriots fans and I hate betting.
00:00:30 It was tough. They get annoyed real fast.
00:00:34 Did you say you hate me? Is that what I heard?
00:00:37 No, I said a different night betting than you had.
00:00:40 Oh, my apologies.
00:00:41 No, no, I would never say such a thing.
00:00:43 So I didn't really care who won, to be perfectly honest. I leaned on the side of don't want
00:00:49 Pat Mahomes to catch Brady because my dad explained that logic to me. I was like, yeah,
00:00:52 I guess that makes sense. But the Niners are also a favorite and I like rooting for the
00:00:55 underdogs. I'm like, whatever. But all my buddies bet the Niners. I said, you know what?
00:01:03 I'll ride with y'all. And I bet a lot of money on the Niners. It didn't go through.
00:01:07 So it was a bad night.
00:01:10 Never trust Kyle Shanahan and never trust Brock Purdy.
00:01:13 Evidently so. It was bad. I did. The highlight of my night, however, was on like one of the
00:01:19 plays. I just kept betting Pat Mahomes to get sacked. It was in the first half when
00:01:22 they just kept sacking him.
00:01:23 I was like, you're betting. Yeah, that's right. Anyways, we can get into actual Celtics
00:01:30 talk and we'll start with what Timo is already talking about in the chat because it is the
00:01:33 title of this live stream. We are live, by the way, in case you're wondering, it's on
00:01:37 the YouTube channel later as well. But if you caught the live.
00:01:40 Hello. Welcome in. Hello, Timo. Jalen Brown's play against Duncan Robinson. I can pull up
00:01:45 the video. Actually, that would probably be smart. I should have had that.
00:01:50 If you watch the Celtics heat game, you might have seen Jalen Brown versus Duncan Robinson
00:01:54 in a WWE match on the sideline. Duncan Robinson had his arm entangled with Jalen Brown and
00:02:02 a foul was called on Duncan Robinson. And then Jalen Brown flung him into the stance.
00:02:07 And if you're saying, well, don't say it like that. I don't know how else I'm supposed to
00:02:10 say it because that's what happened. This is the play. You can see it on the screen
00:02:14 here. Jalen flung him with his arm caught under him into the stands. And yeah, a lot
00:02:24 of there's been a lot of discourse on Twitter. Was this a dirty play? Did he intentionally
00:02:30 try to injure Duncan Robinson? All this stuff. Hello, hero. And we can talk about that as
00:02:36 well as in comparison to the KP versus Bam in a bio thing.
00:02:41 I'll let Bobby start it off, but the chat clearly thinks it wasn't a pretty play, which
00:02:46 go ahead. So I think that it is a dirty play, all lowercase letters where he was pissed
00:02:58 and you understand the frustration and then you can see your phrase it however you want.
00:03:03 Forcefully dislodged his arm, put it however you want. The way that he did that with the
00:03:09 turn. Like, yeah, like that's a that's a dirty play right there. It's not the worst act ever
00:03:16 by any means or anything overly serious, but it wasn't like it wasn't clean. Put it that
00:03:24 way. I don't know how you could argue that. And so also you understand. And I think a
00:03:29 factor built into it is the well-deserved reputation of the Miami Heat.
00:03:34 I don't think it was just that one singular play. Geyser draped on your arm all the time.
00:03:40 But when it's Miami, I mean, look, even within this game, Bam at a bio got a nice handful
00:03:45 of Christoph's Porzingis's nether regions. And when they went to Miami the last time,
00:03:50 a play that doesn't get talked about is when Jason Tatum went up for a layup in the first
00:03:54 half on the fast break and Caleb Martin lightly had his hands on Tatum's back.
00:03:59 Dirty play. We all know I had people tweeting me up a storm about specifically what happened
00:04:04 with Rondo and Dwayne Wade in the playoffs a while back. And so the Miami Heat, I mean,
00:04:10 Kyle Lowry did some shady things last year in the playoffs. And so this is a team that
00:04:16 is very physical, that likes to muck up the game and throw you off kilter and does things
00:04:22 that will cross the line.
00:04:24 And so when you're going up against a team like that and you have a situation like the
00:04:28 one between Jalen Brown and Duncan Robinson, you're going to respond. And so what I loved
00:04:32 more than anything is both Jalen Brown and Christoph's Porzingis post game talking about
00:04:38 the situation and Jalen Brown saying you need to protect yourself and stand your ground
00:04:43 and own your space. And Christoph's Porzingis saying, look, we need to play with a fire
00:04:47 in those moments, but we also have to stay poised because that's their game.
00:04:52 They need to do stuff like that and get us to react, to take away from our focus. And
00:04:57 he didn't say this part, but the reason for it is the Celtics are more talented than Miami.
00:05:01 And so you always have to keep that in mind in the heat of those moments, no pun intended.
00:05:07 Keep the pun and one and one on Bobby's take with the pun. I like that. In terms of was
00:05:13 it dirty, Bobby, according to our title says no, because we do have capitals in the title.
00:05:19 You said all lowercase on the dirty play. Do I think it was a dirty play? I kind of
00:05:26 agree with Bobby where it's a dirty sequence. It's a dirty play, but I don't think Jalen's
00:05:30 out there actively looking to hurt people. It was a heat of the moment. Please get off
00:05:34 of me without the please. And it looked real bad on camera and it looked bad in the press
00:05:42 conference when he was like, hey, he won't do it again. Now, Willie, in terms of the
00:05:49 crying now, this is the most important part of all of this power rankings of who should
00:05:57 be able to cry about this, this game in general, we'll say, okay.
00:06:00 Cause there was controversy with the bam thing to Duncan Robinson, his heat teammates, heat
00:06:08 fans, Celtics fans way down here. Like just no crying aloud from the fan base today. People
00:06:16 are getting really, really upset about Jalen even being on like this, like microscope today.
00:06:23 People are like, was it a dirty play? Shouldn't even be talked about as dirty play. Jay, uh,
00:06:27 not Jalen Oliver Fox of Celtics blog wrote up a whole breakdown of the thing. And he
00:06:32 was really not happy with how it went with Jalen yesterday in people in the comments
00:06:38 were going at him hard. So the fan base in general is very pro this play on Reddit, the
00:06:45 clip of it or not the clip.
00:06:47 I'm sorry. The quote from him after the game had a ton of upvotes. Everybody's like, yeah,
00:06:52 like good for him. But like if the roles were reversed, everybody would be crying about
00:06:57 this forever. Duncan Robinson would forever be a dirty player for the next two weeks.
00:07:03 All we would hear about is how is Jalen the same after Duncan Robinson did a little arm
00:07:08 drag on him. Like this fan base is crazy. You know how I know that is because Porzingis
00:07:14 got sack tapped yesterday and all people have done is cry about it. The clip of a bam, the,
00:07:20 the alternate angle, him driving came from Nate on Twitter and it has like 430,000 views
00:07:27 and everybody's talking about it. What'd you say? I said, I tweeted it too. His was higher
00:07:33 quality. I don't know what to tell you. All right, buddy. Um, my thing is I think multiple
00:07:38 things can be true. I think the heat can play in the gray area of dirty all the time. I
00:07:43 think Duncan Robinson can be trying to get under Jalen Brown's skin by putting his arm
00:07:47 in there and getting around him. And I think JB can fight fire with fire and do a dirty
00:07:52 play and fling him into the stands. Like it was, it was objectively a dirty play. Like
00:07:56 Sam said, if that was, yeah, exactly. But that doesn't take away from the fact that
00:08:01 it was a dirty play. He did. I don't think he intended to hurt Duncan Robinson. This
00:08:04 wasn't Draymond punching Jordan pools. Wasn't Draymond kicking Steven Adams in the nuts.
00:08:08 He is like trying to hurt somebody when he does that. I don't think Jalen was trying
00:08:11 to hurt him. I think he was trying to get him off him, but he knew what he was doing.
00:08:15 He knew where his arm was. He knew what he was going to, what it was going to happen.
00:08:18 It was just, there was a lot of adrenaline going on. So I think if that was Jimmy Butler
00:08:23 fleeing Jason Tatum riots in the streets, everyone would be so angry. Everyone would
00:08:29 be like beyond mad forever and ever and ever. They'd want, why is he not getting suspended?
00:08:33 Yeah, exactly. They'd want fines. They'd want everything. Duncan also flopped Timo. He got
00:08:39 fired up and stands. Maybe he did, but he still got his arm bent backwards into the
00:08:43 stands by a guy who was less be honest here in that situation, stronger than the, in that
00:08:49 situation and the strength difference, definitely a factor in that situation.
00:08:53 You are legitimately worried about your shoulder. You can say, Oh, stop it. That's so dramatic
00:08:58 and whatever. But when you get tangled up like that and it gets torn in a direction
00:09:02 that it's not supposed to go in there, even if it doesn't really hurt afterwards, there's
00:09:08 a shock in the moment that you're kind of worried for a split second about your shoulder.
00:09:13 Yeah. It's like people knowing how to fall and all that stuff. Like, and bead talking
00:09:19 about like he hits the ground a lot. Cause it's less pressure on your body. That kind
00:09:23 of thing could go through Duncan Robinson's head. So he's like, maybe I'll just go down
00:09:27 and go with it instead of putting up extra force to resist it. And then my muscles or
00:09:30 ligaments or whatever get overworked and get injured. The final point I wanted to make
00:09:36 in this, and I forgot about it the first go around. This is not Marcus smart diving for
00:09:41 a loose ball and clipping Steph Curry. And then Steve Kerr going up and crying about
00:09:45 it. Cause he cries about everything. This is a deliberate action that was not a basketball
00:09:51 move or had anything to do with the basketball game that was done, could have injured somebody
00:09:59 and the heat players would complain about it as any team would complain about it.
00:10:04 It's just how it would go. Yeah. Do I hate what Jalen said after the game? Not really
00:10:10 kind of think it's funny. Like he, he kind of like had fun with it. I will say though
00:10:16 him saying he won't do it again. It's basically him admitting, yeah, it was a dirty play.
00:10:19 Yeah. Yeah, exactly. But like, nobody's talking about the first part of that, which was maybe
00:10:24 if he actually played defense, that wouldn't even happen. Like if you just learned how
00:10:28 to play defense buddy, you wouldn't have to get flung across the room. Just play defense
00:10:33 for real physical. They're always on you. They swipe and they look to hit your hand
00:10:40 and the ball. I mean, this is how they play. They push the envelope and they're not going
00:10:45 to hesitate to go over it at times. Also, I'll also get to say this, and this isn't
00:10:52 directed at UTMO. I'm just using your, your quotes as like an example, him playing handsy
00:10:57 defense and saying, I went to that again is very ironic after the bam, the defense Jalen
00:11:01 played on bam because he was slapping the crap out of him.
00:11:04 Let's be honest here. That is the most ironic thing I've ever seen. Exactly. So it is a
00:11:10 little ironic there too. But everyone is comparing this to, well, why isn't anybody talking about
00:11:15 bam at a bio on Christoph's for Zynga? So I pulled up that angle as well. Excuse me,
00:11:19 angle from the top of the key here. Jalen drives on Christoph's Christoph's clearly
00:11:24 fouls him. So, and then everyone's talking about this. That's my friendlies. My thing
00:11:30 is I think initially bam was just trying to get his hand back up to the ball.
00:11:34 Like he's doing the like off arm thing and then a swing up. It just Christoph's files
00:11:38 him and gets it to him. And I saw a lot of people getting mad. Where do you see the foul
00:11:41 on Christoph's? I mean, he cuts off his drive and bumps that that's a foul. And he, his
00:11:45 leg like bam was going up or was going to go up into that place. If he was there or
00:11:51 not, did he give him a little extra? Absolutely. He gave him the old scoop. He's like, we're
00:11:55 in an ice cream parlor here, but I don't think he was going into that place saying,
00:11:59 oh, I'm going to hit KP in the nuts here. So I think it is different because this is
00:12:04 a, in the flow of the game basketball, I don't think he went into this with the intent, the
00:12:09 arm. Then there's an effort to bring it up at the end. That's, that's the right. Yeah,
00:12:15 no, no, no. He gave me a little extra. He absolutely gave it a little extra, but I think
00:12:18 the difference between this play in the jail and play was he didn't go into this place
00:12:21 saying, oh, I'm going to hurt him in the nuts.
00:12:22 I think he, he definitely pushed that gray area a little bit when he gave him the little
00:12:26 up, but Jalen, when that happened, the play was dead and he said, you know what? F this
00:12:32 guy, bang. See you later. So I don't know. I think it's different, but curious to know
00:12:38 you on a random note, fair or foul. The guy in the white long sleeve t-shirt looks like
00:12:43 Andre Agassi. It might not be, but it's a tennis player. He does a little bit. I think
00:12:49 it looks like pep. He does. He does look like Andre pep also does look like Andre Agassi.
00:12:55 Yeah. Doppelganger. Uh, ah, he looks more like pep. I'll give, I'll give this one to
00:13:01 Sam. So review. This is pep. I despise. Yeah. I can, this is pep. He's very handsome. I
00:13:08 still despise him. So I'll give it to both of you, but I can tell it's on the J B J B
00:13:14 play versus a KP play. Oh, thoughts on the difference. Um, I don't know. I think like
00:13:21 you said there, it started with Bam as a basketball play and his arm just happened to end up there.
00:13:28 But then there is that extra swipe to go a little further up. And so it becomes a play
00:13:34 that crosses the threshold of what can be excused. And what again becomes a bit of a
00:13:41 all lowercase 30 play. So different, but, and not deliberate, but, uh, it did happen
00:13:48 and it did go over a line sort of speak. Yeah. I think Jalen's was worse. I don't really
00:13:55 think either of these is the absolute worst. I think Jalen's could have been very dangerous,
00:14:00 but it's not. So we all like understand it was not the greatest. We've watched Jalen
00:14:05 play basketball for years and years and years, and we haven't seen him do anything like this.
00:14:12 So this isn't like a serial thing. It's, Hey, you upset me. You didn't play real defense.
00:14:20 Get taught. You're learning a lesson, buddy. I mean, guys also hang on someone, you know,
00:14:25 the guy trying to get the past, they hang all over them all the time. So like in that
00:14:29 sense, Jalen, he will do it again. And also drape himself on you as an off ball defender.
00:14:36 Take a look at him. I mean, he's got to do that to play defense. I will also say, um,
00:14:45 I think this is important to, if Porzingis fell there, views and bam gets to your flagrant.
00:14:49 And I know Sam, you're one of the guys who always complains about falling, which rightfully
00:14:53 so. I think it's, it's lame and I don't like it on jump shots. Sure. Whatever. But the
00:14:58 point is players aren't getting calls if they don't fall down. That's just how it works.
00:15:03 And it's, it's garbage and it's just how the game is. It's, if you don't fall, you're
00:15:08 not going to get a call. And I agree with Timo. If he had fallen there, if KP went to
00:15:12 the ground and started writhing in pain, like a soccer player, you would've gotten the call.
00:15:16 Absolutely a hundred percent. So I think it'd be whatever, a hundred percent, but I'll say
00:15:22 this though. So specifically with Jalen and Duncan, what I care more about is the response
00:15:29 and yes, Miami's at home and they get a jolt from a crowd that suddenly comes alive, but
00:15:34 they're also playing without Jimmy Butler and prayers out to him and his family and
00:15:38 Terry Rozier and Josh Richardson got hurt too. He's not that good, but he's in their
00:15:42 rotation and they were already shorthanded. And so you would have liked to have seen the
00:15:46 Celtics there in, you know, in the immediate aftermath, handle it better. But instead it
00:15:52 was Miami that went on a run and played better for a good chunk of the proceeding minutes.
00:15:59 And so that was a bit disappointing to see, but then to the Celtics credit, they stabilized
00:16:04 and they made the winning plays necessary. Porzingis tipping out the Brown missed three,
00:16:09 the Jalen gets his own rebound. Tatum then goes to the line to ice the game. That's a
00:16:13 huge play. And the Horford block earlier on Bam out of bio, that's a winning play right
00:16:19 there. So the Celtics, they did step up and do what was necessary. I also think they could
00:16:24 have initially responded better. And that's why you hear from Porzingis to Jalen to Joe
00:16:30 Missoula talk about how, and even Al Horford said in his interview with Abby Chin that
00:16:35 they need these moments and as battle tested as they are, as much as you might want to
00:16:39 say that they shouldn't. The reality is that especially from one season to a next, you
00:16:45 do need them. And so as many of them as possible, it's going to be beneficial come playoff time.
00:16:50 Yeah. I think the end of this game was interesting. I think to go in chronological order and follow
00:17:00 your points, the Jalen play was a bad read the room moment. The Celtics were trying to
00:17:06 pull away and ice the game, that motion, the whip, the arm drag, whatever you want to call
00:17:14 it, cause the Celtics of possession and then resulted in a five point heat possession because
00:17:22 they got two free throws in the ball and then they made a three with their actual possession.
00:17:27 So it's kind of tough when you're up nine and then all of a sudden you're not, everyone's
00:17:32 going to remember it a bit more as far as the Celtics as a whole and how they responded
00:17:36 yesterday. Jack and I talked about this on the post game recap that went up this morning.
00:17:44 Very impressive because they didn't have everything go their way in this game down the stretch.
00:17:49 We've seen them do a pretty good job of executing at times this year. They've been able to go
00:17:54 to poor Zingas. They've had Tatum take over for stretches and things are very easy when
00:17:59 the ball goes in the basket. But I don't think we've seen them win a game just by getting
00:18:04 the stops in, in making the extra strides to get across the finish line.
00:18:08 We saw that yesterday. They did a very solid job of defending Miami down the stretch. Hero
00:18:14 caught fire in the second half. He was a real problem to deal with. They shut him down.
00:18:18 Bam didn't do a whole lot down the stretch either. Al Horford did a really good job on
00:18:22 him. They, despite not making shots, wrapped it up on the offensive end. Like Bobby mentioned
00:18:29 by hustling, they got the offensive rebound that led to them icing the game. That's how
00:18:34 you need to win as a championship team. And I think that's a lot of what people want to
00:18:38 see from this group. Me personally, I like to know that they can win a game if they need
00:18:44 to get stops.
00:18:45 Cause in the past, I just haven't felt that last year. I certainly didn't feel it. The
00:18:49 playoffs, they never had faith in them to get a stop. You saw them lose multiple playoff
00:18:53 games three off the top of my head where they lost at the end because they didn't get a
00:18:59 stop. Hard in game one, Trey Young game five, hard in game four. That's just three possessions.
00:19:06 If they just got to stop, that's three free wins.
00:19:08 Now to be fair, Trey Young hit a 30 footer.
00:19:12 It's true.
00:19:13 So I'm with you on the overall point for sure. There's also some tipping your cap to Trey
00:19:18 Young there.
00:19:20 I had no faith and I was correct.
00:19:24 I mean, it shouldn't have come down to that. I think that's the bigger thing in that game
00:19:27 specifically, but that's not a history that we're trying to rehash right now.
00:19:30 No, no, definitely not.
00:19:32 Yeah, no, I thought that he came was good. I thought it was one of their better wins
00:19:36 of the season. I think it was equal parts. He made some tough shots down the stretch
00:19:41 for sure with hero and them.
00:19:44 So that was frustrating and Celtics did make, let me rephrase.
00:19:46 Jaylen Brown did make some mistakes at the end of that game that could have cost him.
00:19:49 Like it was very much Jaylen Brown is either doing the best thing possible to help this
00:19:53 team win or the worst thing to make them lose.
00:19:55 It was an offensive rebound that helped them seal the game to miss free throws or drawing
00:19:59 a foul or grabbing an offensive.
00:20:01 Like there was no in between. It was either Jaylen is impacting the game in the best way
00:20:04 or the worst way, but it worked out in the end and I think the good outweighed the bad,
00:20:08 but it was a good win.
00:20:10 Jason Tatum played great. He attacked the paint and an elite level.
00:20:14 Chris stops attack mismatches like Sam says, like he was playing on a nerf hoop.
00:20:18 Drew Holiday made all the shots. He was great. Derek White for the lack of impact offensively
00:20:23 he had in this game, which was there. He was solid on defense all night long, which is
00:20:27 just what he does. And so I thought it was a great team when I thought it was proof that
00:20:31 they can beat a good team and I haven't seen it anywhere, but I have to imagine he fans
00:20:36 are saying, well, just imagine when we have Jimmy and we have this like good for you,
00:20:39 but if you were about two weeks, just a little bit ago and got smacked and I was more impressed
00:20:45 by that performance from the Celtics.
00:20:47 Although again, to have these, when it, the intensity amplifies you're on the road against
00:20:54 that particular franchise as well. I thought this was a reminder for any Celtics fans who
00:20:59 are pouring dirt on this iteration of the Miami heat. You just can't discount them come
00:21:05 playoff time. Now, if Terry Rozier, if he's out for the season, that's a massive blow
00:21:09 for them. It's after the deadline buyout markets historically don't move the needle anywhere
00:21:14 close to what they were anticipating getting out of him.
00:21:17 So that that's certainly a blow, but this is a team that even when they don't look particularly
00:21:22 impressive on paper has given teams fits and upset teams way above them in the standings.
00:21:29 So I would not discount the Miami heat. I thought this was the latest reminder of that,
00:21:33 but I'm glad the Celtics went through this. I thought there were some moments in the fourth
00:21:36 quarter, some stretches that could have handled better, but they started to keep them off
00:21:41 the glass after it was killing them in the second half, a number of heroes points came
00:21:45 on second chance threes.
00:21:47 And so to cut that water off after already giving up six second chance points in the
00:21:52 final frame, that was an important part of why they were able to put this game away.
00:21:57 Definitely. I'll also say the Rozier thing. I remember going to war to you guys with you
00:22:04 guys when Terry was your side of the heat. And I was like, I don't know if I like it
00:22:07 that much. I don't know if I'm in on it. And what have you guys made of territories?
00:22:12 Yours thing or stint in Miami so far? Well, it might not. I'm just curious. Also, I'd
00:22:17 still long rants. So Sam, if you want to go first, uh, stats say bad. I don't have an
00:22:26 eye test cause I'm not watching heat. All I remember saying is I don't think the efficiency
00:22:31 will hold because he's in a smaller role.
00:22:34 The efficiency. Yeah. And I believe we all noted that when we did the show talking about
00:22:39 the move, I still look at it and I, I know that no one's going to agree with him and
00:22:44 say it's his coach. It's just lip service. But Eric's bolster said that he felt like
00:22:50 with Taylor's here in the lineup, they were getting better on ball defense from that position
00:22:54 than they were before he arrived. And I think Miami's defense got a little bit better after
00:23:00 Roseal's Razier's arrival. Excuse me. The efficiency was obviously going to drop off.
00:23:06 It's a lot different in Charlotte than in Miami and where you are in the hierarchy.
00:23:10 Razier is not really known for being that guy with less touches, fewer dribbles, less
00:23:16 shots and maintaining that efficiency. But he is a good threat off the ball as a catch
00:23:22 and shoot guy when, you know, on a smaller sample size.
00:23:26 And so I think ultimately he wasn't real. I think that the numbers weren't great overall,
00:23:32 but that he was acclimating. And I would have been curious to see if he had this rest of
00:23:39 the regular season, what it looked like come playoff time.
00:23:42 You made a good point, Bobby. I just looked to double check cause my memory tells me otherwise,
00:23:48 but Terry Rose, you're on the Celtics, not efficient, terrible. I said this literally
00:23:57 never cracked 40% from the field in the regular season and the playoffs that 2018 run, he
00:24:03 was just over 40% from the field. He really was not that great. And it's funny how much
00:24:08 he was glorified knowing what we were looking at then I can't believe it.
00:24:15 So him joining the heat, I think you guys were right. Maybe it's just not the greatest
00:24:21 to be like, take less shots. Terry put it. I do think there's, I do think there's a part
00:24:27 of it where like he has a high level ball handler at the very least. Like he can make
00:24:30 plays. He'd had that super cool law the other last night against Celtics or afternoon, I
00:24:34 should say, but I think it's all a balance. He also hasn't played in the playoffs in like
00:24:38 five years, so maybe that'll have an impact on him too, but he's not ready for the bright
00:24:42 lights. His eyes aren't adjusted anymore. It's like when you're in the dark room and
00:24:45 you go outside or they turn on the lights, it's tough.
00:24:50 The funny thing is that like that was a young version of Terry Rozier that couldn't one.
00:24:54 It was weird that he was playing point guard over Marcus smart and two, he couldn't really
00:25:00 do it like they would go on the road and lose. And a lot of it had to do with how the offense
00:25:05 was getting orchestrated under Rozier. But when you put them, especially now that he's
00:25:09 older, when you put them off the ball, he's actually pretty good as a secondary creator.
00:25:15 But again, it's a lot of adjusting when all of a sudden you're playing with Bam and Jimmy
00:25:20 Butler and some of these guys on Miami and you're just trying to fit in because you just
00:25:24 got there compared to being in Charlotte and you can kind of just do what you want.
00:25:29 I love him as a secret agent sleeper cell in the heat culture. Let him head in there.
00:25:37 Anyways, moving on from the heat, Celtics have a couple of games against the Nets coming
00:25:41 up, one of which Sam and I will be live on the Celtics blog playback the away game. So
00:25:45 make sure to tune on in there. Which day is that? That's the 13th tomorrow. Tomorrow.
00:25:49 We there tomorrow. No matter what, live with Jake from first to floor. Absolute legend.
00:25:54 But two back to back games against that. It's supposed to snow. Oh yeah. I don't think I'm
00:25:58 going big time. That's huge. I love that. But two back to back game again, games, excuse
00:26:04 me, against the Nets and their last 15. Cam Thomas has been averaging 23 as has Mikhail
00:26:09 Bridges. Nick Claxton is playing really, really well. 13.11 rebound double double for him.
00:26:14 I was listening to JJ Reddick's part of Luca the other day and Luca went out of his way
00:26:18 to say Nick Claxton is a guy who defends me really well. So keep an eye out for that.
00:26:21 I suppose Nick Claxton, a good defender on the Nets. That said, in their last 15 games,
00:26:27 they are five and 10. So it's not like they've been playing super well. This is a team that
00:26:31 I feel like should probably be a bit better than they are this season. They have more
00:26:34 talent than what their record shows. It's just that talent doesn't fit well together.
00:26:38 That said, I think they will be better down the stretch moving forward because they have
00:26:44 former Celtic Mr. Dennis Schroeder on the team now, who I think is a pretty perfect
00:26:48 fit for them. Like he's he's exactly what they need at a lower level. It is. They need
00:26:52 a point guard who can handle the ball and organize things. And he was going on this
00:26:57 whole thing, you know, coming into the season saying, I want to run my own team. I want
00:27:00 to do this, blah, blah, blah. The Nets are the team to do that. If you are a point guard
00:27:04 in the NBA who is maybe not a superstar who wants to run their own team. And for what
00:27:07 it's worth, as much as I didn't like Schroeder's fit on the Celtics, I think he's a perfect
00:27:11 fit in Brooklyn. I did because you despised him. You can't fit a high usage ball dominant
00:27:16 point guard on a team with Tatum and Brown. That's just not like you can't do that. We've
00:27:21 seen it. We've seen it time and time again fall apart ahead of the finals. And that's
00:27:26 not like that's just not the recipe for success. But Schroeder was great on the German national
00:27:30 team this summer. And he was I mean, he won FIBA and he was really good in Toronto. And
00:27:36 I think you put more shooting and defense around him in Brooklyn. I'm not saying they're
00:27:39 going to win games, but I think that's like a high level playing team. Like I think they
00:27:43 can get the seven, eight seed at the very least. I'm saying if they had a whole season
00:27:47 together, but Bobby, here's to know your thoughts on the Nets and the Celtics upcoming games.
00:27:51 So one thing is that I would look at McHale Bridges and Cam Johnson and say, I want my
00:27:56 team to run. And one of the reasons it didn't work with Schroeder in Boston is walking the
00:28:04 ball up and not playing at the tempo needed to be successful. And so I'm curious to see
00:28:10 how that fit looks, how it goes for Dennis Schroeder, the facilitator, but as a scorer
00:28:15 with the floor space, then yeah, I think this is a good fit.
00:28:19 It's an opportunity that he wants. So I'm with you there. He does. I mean, he's so fast.
00:28:23 He gets into the paint consistently and what that does, especially when he's looking to
00:28:28 kick it out, could be really nice for Brooklyn and for Schroeder. So we'll, we'll see how
00:28:33 it all unfolds for them and how quickly it comes together if it does at all. And so when
00:28:39 it comes to this upcoming matchup, I would say what I'm most interested in about, I just
00:28:45 butchered that phrase, excuse me, but I wrote about this after the game against Washington
00:28:50 Friday night where the Celtics, and this is common around the NBA.
00:28:54 So this is not more about them than anyone else, but like a lot of players, like a lot
00:28:59 of teams looking ahead to vacation, just as we all did, you know, when it was getting
00:29:05 ready, school was winding down. Maybe the last day you're just watching a movie, start
00:29:09 looking ahead to the break. And so they have been guilty of that for sure. Lately, they
00:29:14 just cranked it up in Miami. I wonder how they respond to games in two nights against
00:29:21 the same opponent. I wonder how they respond, especially on Tuesday in Brooklyn.
00:29:27 Are you going to that game in Brooklyn, Bobby, or are you just going to the home game? I
00:29:32 will not just go into the home game. All right. I was going to say, it's your responsibility
00:29:35 to remind them before the game that they should try. This is a home and home. They should
00:29:41 do the double. They should beat the nets. The nets are not good. Jack said at five and
00:29:46 10, their last 15, they've really, really skidded after the beginning of the season
00:29:51 where they were somewhat competitive. Now they are not good, bad. Shooters. Interesting.
00:29:59 I always kind of liked him when he was here. I agree with Jack where he wasn't the greatest
00:30:03 fit. I don't think he was helping them win games, but I thought he was fun to watch.
00:30:06 I like his kind of quick movements. I don't know. I like that. He models game after Rhonda.
00:30:13 That's really what it was. But I remember his first preseason game here. He like really
00:30:17 came out like hustling. He was firing all cylinders. He was a spark plug. So if he's
00:30:23 in that mentality with the nets, he could be a tough cover. He'll probably have a chip
00:30:27 on his shoulder after being traded away from a team that went to the finals. And Mikhail
00:30:33 bridges has always been a good player. I mean, the nets last year around this time had that
00:30:40 really, really bad or big comeback win for them, but bad Celtics loss at home where they
00:30:46 were up a zillion and then the nets just stormed back and it was one of Mikhail bridges first
00:30:52 games. So just be serious is the only key for me. Interested to see the Tatum bridges
00:30:58 matchup interest to see Claxton down low guarding the big guys and Ben Simmons back. We didn't
00:31:05 even talk about Ben Simmons. He's excited for Ben Simmons too. Yeah. Ben, I I've said
00:31:10 this the same million times. Ben Simmons is one of those guys where no matter how many
00:31:13 times I get fooled and egg on my face, if he's back, I will think he's going to be successful
00:31:17 and be a player. And that's my flaw. That's my fatal flaw. I know it's going to come back
00:31:20 to bite me, but I'm always going to take it. It took me until the way that this season
00:31:25 unfolded to stop being Charlie Brown, trying to kick the football only to have Ben Simmons,
00:31:31 Lucy pull it away from me and I wipe out. I was, you know, he just, the, the ship has
00:31:37 sailed on him being silly. Ben Simmons. Listen, listen, listen. I'm not, he's never going
00:31:42 to be Philly. Ben Simmons. I admit that I own that, but he's been back for five games
00:31:46 in their last seven. They're three and two in those games. And he's been a plus plus
00:31:50 minus and four of them. I'm just saying it's possible. Anyways. Ben Simmons is basically
00:31:56 grant. He is the, go ahead, Sam. He is the never played on the Celtics equivalent of
00:32:03 grant for me, where no matter what, whatever misfortune that he has is always hilarious.
00:32:09 Like he's injured again. Kind of funny. This guy never wants to play basketball. He plays
00:32:14 poorly. Ah, look at that. He's washed. He's not committed to the grind. He looks stupid
00:32:20 sitting on the bench and his super cool drip. Just hilarious. I mean, just look at that
00:32:24 picture of him dressed as a clown. While Rob throws down the alley of dunk in the playoff
00:32:28 game, immortalized. That's the Ben Simmons that I think of now, not the guy in Philly
00:32:33 that didn't want to take the super cool dunk over Troy young.
00:32:38 My favorite Ben Simmons moment from this season was not a basketball play. It was the two
00:32:44 handed shove on Jared Allen. So he throws me down and Jared says, well, now that I've
00:32:50 made a fool of myself on national television, I need to go at this guy and Ben Simmons hands
00:32:55 by his hips. No fear whatsoever of Jared Allen. Who's six 11 to whatever he's running. He's
00:33:02 got momentum. He gives him the shop. He barely moves them. Ben Simmons facial expression
00:33:07 doesn't change, not phase to the least. And it's just like, come on bro. That's my favorite
00:33:11 Ben Simmons moment. That's a side of him. I feel like we've never seen before.
00:33:16 And then the cab scored 21 straight points. Yeah. I mean, then we go to what's happening
00:33:21 on the court in Brooklyn and the Ben Simmons ship has sailed unfortunately, but that was
00:33:27 the highlight of the year for Ben Simmons in my book. It will never sail for me. I'm
00:33:33 in on Ben Simmons. I really hope he plays well. I only want him to play well against
00:33:37 the Celtics. I don't want them to win. Obviously I would like the Celtics to handle their business
00:33:41 and I'll talk about that in a second. But if Ben Simmons plays well, I'd just love to
00:33:44 come on here and say, guys, look, I knew it. Like he can still do nuts. I think this is
00:33:49 a big, okay. Yeah.
00:33:51 Is a difference maker in this game in the Celtics lose. I'm going to be so mad.
00:33:55 If you remember in Brooklyn last season, he started to be a difference maker in the first
00:33:59 half in one of those games. And then because he was passing up shots, Jock von pulled them.
00:34:07 We'll see. I do think this is a big two games for them, right? This is good. This is screaming
00:34:11 Piston's last game before the all-star break from two years ago. This is screaming, just
00:34:17 hold your, hold your hold firm. Like, go, like, go to the all-star break on wins. If
00:34:21 they win these next two games, hold, if they win these next two games, it'll be a six game
00:34:26 win streak heading into the all-star break, which doesn't even feel like anything close
00:34:29 to the case, right? Like they've won four games in a row right now. And it feels like
00:34:32 they've lost at least two of them, but they've won them. They've won them. They found ways
00:34:35 to win as Jalen said, after the wizards game, they just handled the heat and a pretty good
00:34:39 win. You've got two games against the Nets team that for what it's worth, as poorly as
00:34:43 they've been playing, they are bad on offense.
00:34:46 They're 22 and offense, but they are the eighth best defense in the last 15 games, right?
00:34:50 So they're a fine defensive team. They're a team with, if they were good enough on offense,
00:34:54 like this is a team that could probably do a pretty good job guarding the Celtics. You
00:34:58 have Mikhail Bridges, you have Nick Claxton, you have Cam Johnson, you've got solid defenders
00:35:01 coming on the roster. Ben Simmons for all his flaws is a fine defender, but you got
00:35:07 to win these two games. This is not a good team. You've got to handle your business.
00:35:10 This is, it almost feels like an in-between and that's because they are in between literally
00:35:16 of the wizards and the heat. Like the heat feel like a team the Celtics want to play
00:35:19 well against. And we've seen that they want to get up against the heat, then they're going
00:35:21 to play well.
00:35:22 They want to get up against the Knicks. They're going to play well. They want to get up against
00:35:25 these teams that they are not rivals with, but that play them hard and our playoff teams
00:35:31 don't care about the wizards. Don't care about the Hawks. Don't care about the Grizzlies,
00:35:35 but this next team is sort of in the middle. So I'm curious to see if they treat them like
00:35:38 the Hawks or they treat them like an actual playoff opponent, because they've played the
00:35:43 nets very well.
00:35:44 It's outside of that one instance, Sam's referencing. They played the nets very well
00:35:47 over the last few years. Is this going to be a, let's go into the Austin break hot and
00:35:53 stay, stay poised or is this going to be, it's two games against the nets. Do these
00:35:58 games really matter? Which to be clear, outside of the going into the break hot, these games
00:36:02 probably don't matter realistically, but they have to matter.
00:36:06 They have to treat them like they matter. And that's the important, well, not everyone's
00:36:09 a psycho, but like in the grand scheme of the playoffs, it's, it's, you got to stay
00:36:13 focused for this. Well, so that's why it's so important that the Celtics have taken
00:36:17 on the mantra this season of win the day. I mean, we've already discussed it on the
00:36:22 show. I'll be quick here at the last season, they looked ahead and they got burned for
00:36:26 it. And it was something I wrote about a few times along the way. And so that's one thing
00:36:31 you want to stay true to what your identity has become this season. Also, Kristaps Porzingis
00:36:38 is probably not going to play in both of these games.
00:36:40 I would think coming off of the lower back contusion that he sits Tuesday and plays Wednesday
00:36:47 and Al Horford does the opposite. We'll see how they structure it. You should still beat
00:36:50 the Brooklyn nets. Also, also people might not love this, but I would not be opposed
00:36:58 to looking at these games and saying, we don't need basically a little page out of the Miami
00:37:05 heat San Antonio spur playbook of we can pace ourselves through this matchup. It could have
00:37:11 looked a lot better against Washington, but really all they had to do was crank it up
00:37:15 for one quarter and that was good enough to get a win.
00:37:17 You would have liked a better fourth to make it more comfortable. Victory is victory. And
00:37:22 so against Brooklyn, I don't need 48 minutes of full throttle basketball, but you don't
00:37:31 want to do too much of a disservice to yourself because I'm less concerned about getting a
00:37:36 win in Brooklyn in the middle of February before the all-star break. Then I am about
00:37:41 the ultimate goal. Another reason why poor Zingas should not, and most likely will not
00:37:46 play in both of these contests.
00:37:49 Where the correct jerseys set, set the tone for a good finish to the season. Like go into
00:37:55 the all-star break. Please be serious. This has been an embarrassing week to say the very
00:38:02 least. It is green jerseys against the Hawks. The city additions against Washington played
00:38:08 terrible. Then they wear this, the white city additions on the road yesterday in Miami,
00:38:13 which I know is Miami's fault, but you could still wear the green ones against the black
00:38:17 Jersey. And then, you know, you come in these nets games dress for success.
00:38:23 That's really all I want to see, especially after what they did to me on Friday. That
00:38:26 was terrible. Yeah. They pump fake you. Do we get the schedules yet? Is locker vision
00:38:31 like go that far? Is it just, it probably does, but I don't want to know. I like going
00:38:35 on Twitter and finding out that you don't want to know. No, he likes the surprise. I
00:38:40 like going on Twitter and tweeting about it. Well, then I wish I didn't spoil it for myself
00:38:44 because now I have to remember not to tell you, but I will not, I will not tell you.
00:38:49 Okay. Michael, I'm going to let Sam lead this question because Michael Haley is asking what's
00:38:54 more fun to watch the super bowl or where's his versus piston. So if you took the same
00:38:59 commercials from each event and you pasted them in the breaks, I would rather watch wizards
00:39:07 pistons that game rules.
00:39:10 Uh, did not care for the super bowl itself. It was a good game. It was entertaining, but
00:39:17 the commercials are always the highlight. Even in, and I'll say this, we talked about
00:39:23 this Jack. There was only one commercial and I haven't been actively looking one commercial
00:39:29 that I had known what it was beforehand. And it was the John Krasinski, Randall park, Ryan
00:39:35 Reynolds. There were a couple others that I had seen. Unfortunately, I can't remember
00:39:38 which I saw, but um, best commercial of the night fellows. And there is a correct answer.
00:39:44 Yeah. I mean, they nailed it. That was props to them for that all time. All time stuff.
00:39:51 Shout out. Um, Bobby, any final thoughts? Anything we missed? I think we covered it
00:39:56 all. Let me get the cards. I'm going to get them out of my backpack. I was going to say,
00:40:00 what is this? I started winning trivia and we stopped doing it. I always ask Bobby if
00:40:05 we missed anything. We wanted to do it last time. I know. Cause I had to go to the game.
00:40:10 Yeah. Oh, that's right. Okay. My bad. But yeah, we are wrong. It's three to one Sam
00:40:16 and I'm fighting to avoid a parade for Mr. La France 32323232. You were still on the
00:40:23 ropes. Let me find the ad. I enjoyed that because he's like at the bar and the soccer
00:40:32 ball comes over to him and he's like, well, I guess I have no choice but to just run the
00:40:37 ball through the entire beach. I have to go and humiliate all of these people. It was
00:40:44 also great because I'm like, like the only words he said, because his English isn't great.
00:40:50 It's just Michelob, Michelob, Vulture, please. That's all he said. If I'm Michelob, I'm including
00:40:57 in the contract, some sort of price built in for him to post on social media because
00:41:02 he has as many followers as almost everyone. So that's part of the deal with that commercial.
00:41:08 Leo shows a Ted Lasso. Shout out. Was Dan Marino also in that commercial? He was, he
00:41:18 was. All right. Sorry, Chad. I am currently trying to find a good while you do. What did
00:41:24 we think of usher? He was great. W that was great. That was great. We were fighting me
00:41:30 and so I was watching it with my buddies in Austin and some of our friends from home.
00:41:36 Sam, you know, Danny, some of our friends from high school texted us and were like,
00:41:40 I thought it was man. I'm like, did you watch it? What do you mean? It was a man that was
00:41:44 electric. I will say, yeah, please go first. I will. So my one note is, are there two notes?
00:41:51 I would have liked more singing from him and I would have liked longer cuts of each song.
00:41:59 I thought the samples of the heads were a little too short, but I think that's more
00:42:04 of a super bowl directive than an usher thing. And just like the band is an all time entertainer.
00:42:11 So absolutely. Shout out to, despite the disagreement of Brian Scalabrini and he's wrong on this.
00:42:16 Shout out to an icon in usher. Yeah. By the way, who is often wrong, but also usher final
00:42:24 point on him. Love you scale. I've got kind of dwarfed himself. Did not, did not look
00:42:30 very big next to Alicia keys. He was shorter. He's not that tall. I know. Not what he brings
00:42:37 to the table. You got to shoot from like the chest up. Yeah. My three things, as Ashton
00:42:41 says, he was getting very close to Alicia keys. Swiss said he enjoyed it and didn't
00:42:46 care. I was like, all I'm saying is the fellows were like, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, What
00:42:51 are we doing? Uh, we'll also say, uh, the way he ended the show made it sound like Justin
00:42:57 Bieber is about to come out. And then he didn't very upsetting. That was like, come on. I
00:43:02 know. We were waiting to come out. We were all on the same page on that. I also reading
00:43:06 the text by the way. Um, but I do wish it was JB and uh, it was good though. Overall.
00:43:12 Uh, do you see what manager obli tweeted? No. He said, I wish I could look like that
00:43:17 at 45. Yeah. All right. Trivia time. Uh, Michael Hilly says you're giving them free trivia.
00:43:24 Give the stream some more likes. We're gonna do trivia because it's a staple of the show.
00:43:28 But if you'd like to leave a like, we have eight right now and we'd like to get that
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00:43:35 appreciate it. Anyways, let's get to trivia. I have picked a card. There are eight on the
00:43:39 card. So if there is a tie, we will go to another one, but it is a two, three series
00:43:43 in Sam's favor. Sam won the last one. So Sam will go first. Here's the question through
00:43:48 2021 eight different Celtics have blocked seven or more shots in a single game. Again,
00:43:55 I'll read it again for the chat through 2021 eight different Celtics have blocked seven
00:43:59 or more shots in a single game. Name those, um, eight players, Sam, Robert Parish. I hate
00:44:06 you for taking that one first. Yes, sir. Robert. I don't have a whole lot going on upstairs.
00:44:13 This is a tough one. So we'll start with Kevin Garnett. Correct. Oh no. Are you Sam? I am
00:44:23 going to change the board a little here just so we get the better coloring here, but maybe
00:44:28 it's a filibuster for you. Try and think of other people. I'm going to say perk Kendrick
00:44:37 Perkins is correct. Yes. I think perk has like the playoff record. I don't know if they
00:44:40 count perk in the playoffs, but I think he had like 10 or something. I believe it. Bobby
00:44:48 bill Russell. They don't count blocks. So that's the thing is that I think he deserves
00:44:54 to be on there. I think we all know that he did it. I think we all know that he did it.
00:44:59 They don't count blocks. Uh, so I'm going to have to say no, I'm sorry. I'm just, we're
00:45:04 going to have to go with no, uh, it's not on the card, but the card is not on the card.
00:45:09 It's the card is lying to you. It's not on the card. So I apologize, but we're going
00:45:12 to have to go with a no. I am going to try to put a different background up here so I
00:45:15 can see some talking scenes. Uh, Sam, back to you. Um, Oh boy. I'm going to guess Dave
00:45:26 Cowens. Don't know if they counted blocks yet. No Dave Cowens. No Dave Cowens. Back
00:45:35 to you Bobby. Off the chat on my screen. Oh yeah. Respect. Respect. Bobby, what do we
00:45:42 got cooking here? There are some ones you should get that are left. I'll say that. No,
00:45:46 we're giving it. That's barely a hit. Let's just saying like you guys should get some
00:45:50 of them. Come on. You say that did Robert Williams ever do it? Yes he did. Good pick.
00:45:58 Oh, that's a good pick. Thank you. All right. Sam, back to you. I'm going to guess I'm going
00:46:08 to guess Larry Bird. No Larry legend on here. Nope. Bobby throwing it back. There's one.
00:46:21 I'm so tempted to guess, but I'm going to, I'm not going to guess that this entire game
00:46:25 because it's such a, but I just don't know. He had like a career night. I don't know if
00:46:31 he got to seven though. So I'm going to keep it in the holster. May have said too much
00:46:36 just now, but I will instead. Yes. Did, um, did Paul Silas ever do it? No, he didn't.
00:46:57 Sorry. Sam, back to you after this round, I'll start giving clues. I'm sorry. I'm not
00:47:07 talking. Uh, it's okay. I mean, this is going to be a video to the live stream. We'll just
00:47:11 have to have to deal with it. This is tough. Um, I have some names out there. I'm not certain
00:47:21 about any of them and I feel like it's going to be some of the people I really don't think
00:47:25 have done it. So I'm going to guess Antoine Walker. No Antoine Walker. Sorry. Back to
00:47:33 you Bobby. Mark Blount. No Mark Blount. Okay. First clue. Uh, three of these players that
00:47:41 are left are hall of Famers. So two of them deservedly so. And one of them, well all deservedly
00:47:51 so, but one is not, you would think of, you know what I'm saying? All right. Um, I'm going
00:48:02 to guess Kevin McHale. I'll just guess it. Yeah, correct. I was going to hold onto it
00:48:07 cause I just, I've guessed Kevin McHale in this trivia thing a bunch of times and it's
00:48:11 just never him. Phil was there. Phil had it. Phil was on it. Back to you. Let me put, I'm
00:48:20 going to, while Bobby's guessing, I'm going to put the question on the screen somewhere
00:48:22 so the chat knows what we're guessing. Just type in the chat and then pull up the message.
00:48:27 Oh yeah. I'll just pin it. Good call. It is your turn Bobby though. I'm just typing. So
00:48:32 take your time. I'm going to just start firing the ones I'm not sure about. Might as well
00:48:40 get those shots up. Yeah. You guys both blocked the chat, right? Yeah, I don't have the chat.
00:48:47 Okay. Cause Phil's cooking. I will go Sam Jones. No, Sammy Jones. Sorry, Sam, back to
00:49:02 you. This would be a big one cause you would have four and you wouldn't be unable to lose.
00:49:07 Bobby could only tie. Why did you have to say that? I got to put the pressure on. All
00:49:12 right. I'm going to, I'm going to guess Al Horford. I don't think it's Al Horford because
00:49:18 I think that would have been part of the hint and I know he's gotten five, but I can't off
00:49:22 the top of my head remember him getting more and I would remember. No Al Horford. Sorry.
00:49:29 Respect the guess though. Had to try. Back to you Bobby. Had I not guessed and been wrong,
00:49:37 I would have been devastated. So for a refresher on the clue slash filibuster, there were at
00:49:44 the time of the clue. So including the kale, three hall of famers left, there were four
00:49:49 left, four players left and three were hall of famers. Yes. So there were three with two
00:49:53 hall of famers. Correct. Phil, I'll give another clue after this round. Sam went first. I'm
00:49:58 going to give it after Bobby goes, but I will give another clue. I will also, I would leave
00:50:02 this on the screen, but it does just completely block Bobby's. Oh, it does block Bobby. So
00:50:06 I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna throw it up there. Might be a horrible guess because his stint
00:50:11 was brief and he was coming off the bench, but Bill Walton. Yeah, correct. Bill Walton
00:50:18 is a hall of famer. That's, that's the one Phil had it in the chat. Phil was going for
00:50:22 it. He was a name that stayed in the clip and I didn't know if he was coming out and
00:50:26 he was in the clip for me too. I'm devastated. Okay. All right, here we go. Two left. One
00:50:31 is a hall of famer. Do we want another clue now or do we want to wait? No, not now. I'm
00:50:35 saying if you really want one now, of course we can, but I'm taking the damn clue. You
00:50:41 guys both have to agree before you get a clue cause it's round around. So discuss. All right.
00:50:47 He wants the clue. We'll, we'll go for the clue. Okay. Um, let's see. I've got to think
00:50:53 of a fair clue. Do you want a clue for one player specifically or for like, yeah, because
00:50:56 we already know one of them's a hall of famer. Okay. So do you want a clue for the other
00:51:01 one? Sure. Yes. Yes. But not an obvious clue for the record. I'll give you an air. I have
00:51:06 a, can I give you an, can I give you an, like an era? Is that a fine clue? Yes. Yes. This
00:51:12 player played from the late nineties to early 2010s. Then that's the non hall of famer by
00:51:22 the way. Okay. Phil's hell yeah. Early 2010s. Phil is a beast. Phil's an OG too. He's a
00:51:32 legend of the chat. No, I'm not sure. Much respect. I don't know who the other hall of
00:51:40 famer would be. This is going to be bad if it's wrong. Did Paul Pierce ever get seven
00:51:49 plus blocks? He did not. I respect the guests though. Sometimes you just got to guess some
00:51:54 of those. Also Pierce's is he in the hall of fame yet? He got it. I wasn't sure if he'd
00:51:59 just got his career high in blocks is five. So close, but no to you, Bobby. I'm glad I
00:52:08 picked this question. It's a good one. It's a good mix of easy and hard ones. I keep going
00:52:13 back and forth on my focus between the two clues. You guys both have comments off, right?
00:52:19 No comments are cooking comments. Hey, X, X, check. You are cooking. I'll say that.
00:52:27 Oh, I was about to bring it up on the screen. Then I realized, wait, then they'll be able
00:52:31 to see it on the screen. No, Phil, sorry. It is not correct. X, X, X check is cooking.
00:52:38 It's tough name to say getting nervous. I have a couple of guesses and I don't have
00:52:44 faith in them and I'm afraid whichever one I don't guess will be the other one will be
00:52:50 right. Well, you could just get some of the back to backgrounds and just assume Bobby
00:52:54 doesn't have them. Good. Thought of you and me. All right. Um, again, I don't love this
00:53:05 guess, but why not? Numbers in the rafters. Oh, actually, nope. Just kidding. I retract.
00:53:11 I'm not, we're not going to guess that it's not a Hall of Famer. Um, yikes.
00:53:23 This is a great question. I'm very happy with this round of trivia. This is great. See,
00:53:28 now I find myself with Sam. I'd actually like another clue, but I mean, you've, you've given
00:53:32 us more than enough. I'll give another one after you guess. Cause Sam went first. Fair.
00:53:38 Um, Sam, you're in luck cause I don't have an answer. Obviously. Um, I'm so glad I'm
00:53:44 reading the questions and not guessing cause I'd be tragic. The nineties to the 2010s.
00:53:58 I am hurt for, this is a really stupid clarifying question, but they did this with the Celtics.
00:54:05 Not just, they did this in their careers. Yeah. Yeah. I assume I'm not absolutely sure,
00:54:11 but like, yeah, yeah. That's how these cards have gone so far. Cause like, for example,
00:54:16 Theo Ratliff probably did it or might've done it, but yeah, he, he didn't really play with
00:54:23 the Celtics. Yeah. No, no, no. This is what the Celtics with the South pass. I'll give
00:54:29 a clue. I can't pass. I mean the stakes here are massive. So I'm just showing this for
00:54:36 the chat. This is not the card. So don't try to read it. I'm not cheating. I got these
00:54:40 from these Boston cards. Well, it's not even the correct question. I'm just showing the
00:54:43 chat, the card deck we have. They got some world questions, some Boston questions. I
00:54:47 picked out the basketball ones. Shout out uncle Dan chat legend. Bobby, if you'd like
00:54:51 to pass, I'll give a clue or if you'd like to take a shot in the dark, you'll get a clue
00:54:53 at the start of the next round.
00:54:56 I'm so stubborn. Um, why is better than not guessing? So it's wrong, but because I'm officially
00:55:07 stumped, I will go with Rodney Rogers. No Rodney Rogers. All right, Phil. No Michael.
00:55:14 Yes. Uh, all right. I'm going to give you a clue for each of them. Um, just so we can
00:55:18 get cooking. Do you want me to tell you which one the clue is for? Do you want me to say
00:55:22 one player? I'm going to make it, I'll specify later. One player only spent four years in
00:55:28 the NBA. The other had a 14 year NBA career and I'll specify which is which. Um, so I
00:55:40 wonder which one's the, Adam, Adam, you need a clue to there's your clue. Adam, this is
00:55:46 here, Adam. I don't know if you saw the question. I'll throw it up in the chat for you. I don't
00:55:49 want to block Bobby's face though, but this is the question we're rocking with right now.
00:55:53 Um,
00:55:54 I think 90s, early 2010s, they were a hall of Famer. I'll give another clue after this
00:56:04 round. Dino Raj to thank you. I swear to God, he just came to my mind too. At the same time
00:56:15 I had him and I have another guest too. And I just realized he definitely did not spend
00:56:20 a lot of time in the NBA because he was playing overseas slash did get out. Michael Haley.
00:56:26 That's Bobby. You get this. You can tie. Phil also got it. Yeah. Phil and Michael are bang,
00:56:33 bang in the chat for what it's worth. X check got this the last one, uh, five minutes ago
00:56:43 he was on it. So credit X check beast in the chat. This is far more fun. Live the trivia.
00:56:49 I'll say this is fire. I'm in hell. You are. I'm about to see the championships be one
00:56:57 to one about to raise a banner. Sam. It's true. I thought the soldiers were going to
00:57:03 raise a banner in 2022 in game four. I was wrong. I hate, I hate that. I don't have an
00:57:10 answer. I can be like, I know this is right, but I will go with Ray for friends. No rate
00:57:16 for friends. Oh no. Sam, I'm going to go. And I don't know if this is right. Tony Batty.
00:57:25 It's a banner in the Raptors. I had them both. I had them in the chamber. Tony Batty. Zach
00:57:34 check had it. Yeah. Tony Batty at 12 Oh seven. He got it. And I was on the rotisserie like
00:57:41 with those names in my chamber. And I think I guessed Al Horford instead of either one
00:57:47 of them. And I was so worried that they were going to get taken. Oh, whatever. I thought
00:57:54 of Dino Raja at the same time. Sam guessed it. You guys liked the little trick. Sam,
00:57:59 you, you were mocking me and I played you. I was like, one is played for 14 years, but
00:58:03 one was four years. And you were like, I wonder where Bobby should be. Cause you did make
00:58:08 a face and it made me think a little bit. I mean, it's like, I did. I'm not going to
00:58:16 tell you which is which. I'm not going to tell you which is which. I thought, I thought
00:58:23 the four year play, I guess I thought the four year player was the hall of Famer for
00:58:27 his basketball career overseas. That led me to Raja. Okay. Well, it was a great round.
00:58:35 One to one in titles. Everyone's saying hello in the chat. Everyone's saying, good job.
00:58:38 Good job. Good job. There we go. Michael, Sam, you came to my parade. I'll be at yours.
00:58:42 They classy man. I'm honored to compete against you. I, I, I'm honored to be in the presence
00:58:50 of two bright basketball minds. It just happened to be the brightest. This round, this, this
00:58:57 one to one, one to one in titles. Bobby, any thoughts for you? We get on out of here. Now
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