PDM-2 Ka Qayam... Kis Ka Hoga Faida Kis Ka Nuqsan? Mazhar Abbas's Reaction

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00:00 The decision not to sit in the People's Party in the Cabinet,

00:03 and the position of Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman in his press conference,

00:07 are all about weakening the system.

00:11 And that too at a time when the country needs a lot of stability.

00:17 Look, Mehr, I feel that we...

00:21 I don't think that this is going on.

00:27 The situation we're heading into

00:31 is definitely a political stalemate.

00:35 But we're heading into a political conflict.

00:38 And the consequences could be very dangerous.

00:41 It's very clear.

00:43 Look, the election on 8 February 2024,

00:49 if a party can bring a counter-argument to this,

00:54 I'll be very happy to correct myself.

00:59 But if you look at the scenario of this entire election,

01:03 only one party was at a disadvantage.

01:07 And that was Pakistan Tehreek-e-Islam.

01:09 No leader, no party, no symbol.

01:12 Among those who were fighting the election,

01:15 there were many who were in jail or underground.

01:19 No Jalsa, no Jalus, no rally.

01:23 So if someone was saying that they weren't getting a level playing field,

01:29 then there was a ground that Tehreek-e-Islam doesn't have a level playing field.

01:34 They made their own mistakes.

01:37 But the election on 8 February 2024,

01:41 the voters there surprised everyone,

01:47 including PTI, including all the PDM parties.

01:52 And this result, many people say,

01:55 then it means that this is a free and fair election.

01:58 Look, elections are managed and rigged in two ways.

02:03 One is that someone is completely out of the scene.

02:07 And one is that someone's victory is reduced.

02:10 If we look at the Karachi elections,

02:13 look at the results of Karachi,

02:15 then you can go around Karachi and ask.

02:18 People thought that MQM would get 5 or 6 seats,

02:24 People's Party would get some seats,

02:26 some seats would be taken by PTI,

02:28 and a few seats by Jamaat-e-Islami.

02:30 But the results,

02:32 excuse me,

02:34 that 17 seats,

02:36 no one is convinced that MQM can get 17 seats like this in Pakistan.

02:41 So I think that keeping these things in mind,

02:46 now in the election,

02:48 as Maulana Fakhdur Rehman is saying,

02:50 Maulana Fakhdur Rehman lost to DI Khan in 2013,

02:53 he lost in 2018, he is losing in 2024.

02:56 So were all three elections rigged in his opinion?

03:00 Then look at ANP in the same way.

03:04 Since 2013, ANP has been completely missing in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.

03:12 This is the situation of People's Party in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.

03:16 This is the situation of Muslim League in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.

03:20 In Balochistan, People's Party has definitely gained this time,

03:25 in comparison to the past.

03:27 In Sindh, apart from a few suggestions,

03:29 there was no one who was not saying that People's Party will not win in Sindh.

03:33 Now there may be objections on some seats,

03:36 but overall, because other Jamaats have not gone there and,

03:39 in true sense, have not done election campaigns or politics.

03:44 So if we look at the overall scenario,

03:46 Punjab is such a province,

03:48 where it seemed that PMLN and PTI will have a competition,

03:53 and we saw that.

03:55 The parties that were broken from PTI,

03:58 those parties became non-existent.

04:00 On one side, Janki Tariq left politics,

04:03 and Parvez Khattak more or less disappeared.

04:07 So the battle that took place in Punjab,

04:09 in the battle of Punjab, we can see that

04:12 PMLN and PTI had a competition.

04:15 And it was a tough contest.

04:16 You can debate in the seats,

04:18 which seats, maybe PTI could have increased more seats, or PMLN.

04:22 But if we have seen a competition,

04:25 then it has been seen in Punjab.

04:27 Now the process that is going on,

04:29 in that Nawaz Sharif Sir was greatly surprised.

04:33 His whole dream was to become PM for the fourth time.

04:39 And PMLN, you can see the whole propaganda of Muslim League Noon,

04:44 everyone thought that Nawaz Sharif will be PM in PMLN.

04:48 But even during the election, he said that

04:52 if he didn't get a simple majority,

04:55 then he wouldn't want to become PM.

04:57 But now, I don't think a strong PMLN government is being formed.

05:02 I think this decision of Shahbaz Sharif and People's Party,

05:06 is a compromise between Zardari Sir and Bilawal Bhutto.

05:11 Otherwise, Bilawal Bhutto was in the right to sit in the opposition.

05:16 This is a compromise that the government won't join, but will support.

05:20 But a weaker government is going to meet Shahbaz Sharif Sir again.

05:25 What happened in 16 months,

05:27 that happened in front of us and those 16 months only,

05:32 if you see, if any party has been casualty in those 16 months,

05:37 then it is PMLN.

05:39 Whatever we see, that means they are definitely winning seats,

05:42 but the position in which they are standing now,

05:45 in that position, will PMLN be able to make more,

05:50 because you won't be able to make any tough decisions.

05:54 You won't be able to make any unpopular decisions.

05:57 So, in such a situation, obviously, a big cost will have to be paid.

06:02 But it is better than this situation, that you go towards a fresh election.

06:06 Sir, this country is not able to bear this instability.

06:10 As you are saying, tough decisions have to be taken,

06:12 but they have to be taken on time.

06:14 Tough, right and on time.

06:16 In such a situation, when People's Party is also trying,

06:20 that the system should continue to run and they are trying to vote against their politics and wisdom,

06:27 that they bring in the Prime Minister, make a government and sit and walk.

06:30 In such a situation, if PTI is also on the streets,

06:33 Maulana Sahib is also threatening to step down,

06:36 then we want lakhs.

06:38 How can we run the affairs of the state on time?

06:41 Which is what the country needs at this time.

06:44 This will happen, what we saw in 1977,

06:48 that the Mehar will be even worse than that.

06:51 And obviously, no one can afford this.

06:54 The problem is that Maulana, I think,

06:57 that JUI used to get some space somewhere.

07:01 It is seen that in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, including former FATA,

07:06 their space is completely over.

07:08 Sir, Rana Sahib is also saying the same thing.

07:10 That this was expected.

07:12 If Bilawal Bhutto or Bhutto family continues to lose elections from Lalkana,

07:17 then where will his politics stand?

07:19 So, if Maulana Fazlur Rahman is continuously losing third election from JDI Khan,

07:24 then obviously, his politics has reached a very severe stage.

07:28 Now he can blame anyone, the establishment,

07:32 and he himself is also under threat.

07:34 Remember that the attacks on JUI,

07:38 JUI is not in the book of Daesh.

07:42 Daesh does not agree with JUI's politics.

07:45 That is why they feel a threat in this situation.

07:49 So, if they will come out in the field,

07:52 then against whom will they come out in the field?

07:54 If the government is formed by PMLN,

07:57 Shahbaz Sharif is the Prime Minister,

07:59 Maulana Fazlur Rahman is in the field,

08:01 PTI is in the opposition,

08:03 then how will this government run?

08:06 I don't think that any solution has come out in this,

08:10 so that is a different matter.

08:11 But as we speak now,

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