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04:52 then we will discuss the issue of the 2022 amendment. We will discuss this later. But I will introduce the guests who are with us. Shahid Saqqan Abbas is with us. He is the former Prime Minister of Pakistan. There is a statement about him as well. Before I go towards the question, Mr. Abbasi, if you allow me, Mr. Ismail Mifta has said something. Please listen to that.

05:16 I think Mr. Abbasi resigned. He did not say anything about the party. He had already told Mr. Niawashree that when you will have a party on behalf of Maryam, I will step back because that is not right. You have seen that when JNB was formed, he removed all the uncles who were called uncles. Before he removed Maryam, he himself stepped aside.

05:39 Thank you for joining me. Did Maryam Nawaz remove all the uncles? Why did you fear that she will remove all the uncles like Benazir? Mr. Azagdar is sitting, Khwaja Asif is sitting. So many people. I don't know. I have not heard. It is their wish.

05:57 Mr. Mifta is saying that you feared that when she will come to power, she will remove all the uncles. So, I stepped aside. I feared that the uncles should step aside. Mr. Mifta's statement could be incorrect. I have always said that we saw what happened in the case of Baby Samar. Their problem was the uncles. It is better if the uncles are separated.

06:21 So, which uncles should step aside? It is their own wish. It is not a forced thing. Mr. Dar should step aside. It is a generational change. If they stay in the centre, they will not have any problem. Mr. Shabbaaz is here. The matter will continue here. If there is a generational change, then problems arise there.

06:42 In other words, Mr. Abasi, it is clear that the uncles are not being separated. If Maryam Nawaz Sahiba will rule in Punjab, then Shabbaaz Sharif will rule in the centre. But will Nawaz Sharif be behind all this or has he gone back foot?

07:01 Nawaz Sharif was there before. He is the head of the party. He was there before when the previous government was there. He was in London. He was in London. He will not be in a position to decide.

07:14 Right. Mr. Shabbaaz, I will come to you again. But I have one more data here. And that data is very interesting. Because in the National Assembly, there are 10 seats of non-Muslims.

07:27 And till now, the seats of the election commission of Pakistan, which has been formally announced, are 7. In this, the Sunni Ijtihad Council, which also included the Pakistan Justice Movement, has also got seats.

07:40 Then, the seats of the Punjab National Assembly, which also included 12 unannounced. And the seats of Sindh and Balochistan have been completed.

07:51 In KPK, there are also 8 unannounced. In total, there are 3 seats, 12 seats, 8 seats. This makes 23 seats. Mr. Abasi, will these special sessions be able to come to the SIC, i.e. PTI's independent candidates?

08:06 Look, the people who have been elected, they have the right to join a community, to form an alliance. And then the seats will come to them according to their number.

08:18 As far as my interpretation of the law is concerned. Anyway, you can do anything here. There is no one to ask. You can do whatever you want.

08:27 The election commission has lost its credibility. The election commission has raised a lot of objections.

08:36 I will come to your statement. You said a statement in my last program. We will come to that. But at this time, you have heard the statement of Mr. Ali Zafar.

08:45 He says that there is no problem in the constitution. But I have Election Act 2022, which is the amended one.

08:50 In this, section 104, the third part of the party list for reserved seats says that a candidate to the seat reserved for women and non-Muslims shall file the nomination paper on the form on or before the last date fixed for filing nomination paper for the election and the nomination paper shall be and so and so.

09:07 According to this, the nomination papers have to be filed by the Sunni Ijtihad Council. I have a list of all the reserved seats in which the Sunni Ijtihad Council has no list.

09:20 In such a situation, where the Sunni Ijtihad Council has also fought independently and this party is registered with the ECP, will there be any difference in this that if they fight on their party ticket and without the party ticket?

09:34 But the constitution will prevail. The spirit of the constitution will prevail. If there is a conflict between the constitution and the law, the constitution always prevails.

09:41 The concept of the constitution is a document in the spirit. It will be according to that. So, you cannot deny this.

09:50 But you don't have to make an election act against the constitution.

09:54 No, if there is any such deficiency in the election act or if there is any conflict, then the constitution prevails.

10:00 And if there is no conflict but there is ambiguity, then the constitution will prevail.

10:05 The spirit will prevail. And the spirit is that the people who are together, according to them, they will get seats.

10:11 Right. So, according to this, do you think that the Sunni Ijtihad Council will get seats?

10:15 I cannot say anything. But if you ask me, this is the answer to the question.

10:20 I have never seen such uncertainty.

10:23 I told you that this election has become so controversial that it will cause a lot of damage to the country.

10:28 Did you say this yourself in the last 70-75 years that which elections were held before this?

10:33 No, this election was also included in that list.

10:35 Was it included in that list or did it go beyond that?

10:37 Only time will tell how far it has gone. But unfortunately, we have included it in that list.

10:42 You said in my program that if there were no elections, the country would be destabilized, the instability would increase.

10:51 There will be instability even after the elections, but it will be less.

10:54 Are you still adamant that if there were elections, the instability would be reduced?

10:59 It is difficult to say that if there were no elections, what would have happened?

11:02 Maybe this situation would not have happened.

11:04 I am in favor of elections, I am in favor of the constitution.

11:08 But no one allows you to have elections like the election commission has done.

11:14 They should look at this matter.

11:17 This is a very serious matter, believe me.

11:20 We have taken it very lightly.

11:22 Pakistan has always taken a loss from these things.

11:25 I am more afraid of losses here.

11:27 What kind of losses do you see?

11:29 When the country is not running, there are losses.

11:32 When people lose confidence in the process, and today your young people have lost confidence in the process of elections.

11:39 You go out and see what people are saying.

11:42 You have an office, go and ask people.

11:45 What are people saying to you?

11:48 When I came to the office, three people said that the election was stolen.

11:53 What should I say? I said that I fought, forgive me.

11:57 You said that last time the candidates were also asking you whether the elections were going to be held or not.

12:02 Yes, it was happening.

12:04 Now people ask who won.

12:07 Did you talk to the winners?

12:09 The winners are more ashamed of the losers.

12:13 Who are these winners?

12:14 Believe me, the winners.

12:16 They do not even consider themselves worthy of accepting congratulations.

12:20 They also know what their status is.

12:23 This is very unfortunate.

12:25 When these conditions of the election happen, you believe that today the winners have also lost.

12:30 Because the country will be at a loss.

12:32 But the people you are talking about, who are ashamed, are not accepting congratulations.

12:36 Of course, you must have spoken, then are they people from your previous party?

12:39 No, people from all parties.

12:41 Whoever wins, believe me.

12:43 Everyone knows whether I win or not.

12:46 The whole world knows.

12:47 People cannot face it.

12:49 It is unfortunate that these conditions have arisen.

12:52 It is time to fix it.

12:55 How to fix it?

12:56 Fix it by making everyone sit and move on.

12:59 How can everyone sit?

13:00 You know that PTI did not want to sit.

13:02 Sir, if we do not sit, it will sit now.

13:04 Will it sit?

13:05 I do not know.

13:06 If we do not sit, it will be a loss.

13:09 No one has a solution.

13:11 If anyone had a solution, I would say that it is a very good thing.

13:16 If the stakeholders of this country do not sit, history will not forgive them.

13:20 Only political stakeholders?

13:22 Not only political, I have always said that the stakeholders in the country, in the governance,

13:26 in the system of the government, in the political leadership, military leadership, judicial leadership,

13:32 it is the responsibility of all three to sit and determine the path ahead.

13:37 The time has not passed yet.

13:39 You need consensus to do the reforms.

13:42 You need a moral authority.

13:44 You need the opinion of the people.

13:46 Include everyone in this.

13:48 You said that time has not passed yet.

13:50 This gives a lot of hope, Abbas sahib.

13:52 At this time, will the people's party, MQM, and all the SIC people sitting in the opposition

13:57 be in the government, like PMLN government cabinet?

14:01 If PTI sits in the opposition, the biggest mistake of PTI is that it does not sit in the opposition

14:06 after the lack of confidence.

14:08 In the history of Pakistan, the first time the opposition came up and sat on the traheary benches.

14:14 But the opposition sat on the traheary benches.

14:16 This was the biggest flaw.

14:18 If they make the same mistake today, then the system will not work at all.

14:22 The government does not work without the opposition.

14:25 Imran Khan sahib's biggest mistake was that he spent three years and eight months

14:29 only in abusing the opposition, putting them in jail, keeping them out of the assembly.

14:36 This is their flaw.

14:38 Today, they are paying the price and the country is paying the price.

14:42 Right. But Abbas sahib, the situation is looking like they will sit in the opposition,

14:47 in the form of SIC, but they will sit.

14:49 But a lot of their matters are with the Election Commission and the Adaliyah.

14:53 Like going to the election tribunals on matters related to Dhandali.

14:56 After that, these issues of reserved seats.

14:58 Now, all these are the views of everyone.

15:00 At this time, the Election Commission is leaning towards Pakistan.

15:03 Ideally, what should happen?

15:06 Ideally, what do you say?

15:09 Now, there is a Form 45, which is also issued by the Election Commission.

15:17 There is a Form 47, which is also issued by the Election Commission.

15:22 On whom will you believe?

15:24 Which form do you believe in?

15:25 I am saying that if Form 45 is wrong, then ask that person why he gave it wrong.

15:32 The thing is that the Election Commission has failed.

15:36 Because their people are issuing Form 45.

15:39 Form 47 is not available to them.

15:42 I am requesting that we should look ahead with our nose.

15:48 Our small political party should look ahead.

15:50 Who are we, Abbas sahib?

15:51 Whatever political leadership we are, of this country,

15:54 today, see, they know whether they win the election or not.

15:58 Today, I am saying, today, raise your hands, sit together, look ahead,

16:02 what to do in the matter of the country.

16:04 What you said, they know whether they win or not.

16:07 Because if PML had come with a very good victory at this time,

16:11 then maybe it would have been the situation of 2013.

16:14 Is there a reason why Nawaz Sharif sahib did not become the Prime Minister?

16:19 Didn't he feel that such an assembly is there?

16:21 I do not know about this.

16:22 But he has decided better by not becoming.

16:25 He always gives criticism that he has come to the centre himself,

16:28 and has made his daughter there.

16:30 Then, whenever Mian sahib has ruled, he has done it with a lot of majority.

16:35 So, the current situation is a very difficult structure,

16:44 which will be the opposition.

16:45 In this, the Peace Party will control that structure.

16:48 They will not be in the cabinet, they say that we will only support.

16:51 Yes, if they do not support, then there will be no government.

16:53 What is the bigger threat than this?

16:55 Then, Abbas sahib, you can see that this is happening after 5 years.

16:58 Sir, this country has nothing to do with completing 5 years.

17:01 If you do not work, then every moment will be heavy for the country.

17:05 If you work, then 5 years are less.

17:08 I have no connection with 5 years, I can see the loss of the country here.

17:14 Whether it is 5 years or not.

17:15 Yes, 5 years. The government will not be effective.

17:17 It will not be able to work.

17:19 At this time, many people in PMLN have this thought that

17:24 if the cabinet is ours, then the responsibility will be ours.

17:29 Yesterday, Hanif Abbas was sitting here and saying that

17:31 now no one will have the chance to make an excuse that we cannot work because we are united.

17:36 Will PMLN get the chance to play openly?

17:39 What is playing openly?

17:41 Perform?

17:42 I have never seen any obstacle.

17:45 If you cannot work, then you cannot work.

17:48 The allies do not stop you.

17:50 The allies will still be allies.

17:53 Your government will not be formed without them.

17:56 So, include the allies in the cabinet.

18:00 And if they are not there, what should they do?

18:02 Otherwise, they will have the power and the responsibility is yours.

18:05 But they are not joining.

18:06 If they are not joining, then leave the government. Do not go to the government.

18:09 Do not go? Then what should I do?

18:11 First go to the elections, then you will have to come forcibly.

18:15 Immediately after one election, go to the second election?

18:17 If the government is not giving the choice, then you should not be in the government.

18:23 This is not a way.

18:24 This is very unwise that I will support if I am not a member of the alliance.

18:29 The opposition does not support.

18:32 Which benches will sit?

18:34 Treasury benches?

18:35 Then you will be a member of the alliance.

18:37 You will not be in the cabinet.

18:38 You will not be in the cabinet.

18:40 You will not be in the cabinet.

18:41 You will not have the responsibility.

18:42 And the government will not work without you.

18:44 Then how will we see governance under this government?

18:49 Nothing will happen. I am telling you.

18:51 Sir, you are so hopeless.

18:52 I am not talking about hopelessness.

18:53 A government which does not have moral authority,

18:55 whose seats are doubtful, whose majority is doubtful,

18:58 his own allies should not sit with him, how will that work?

19:02 Give the government to PTI.

19:03 Do not give it to PTI.

19:04 They can not make it.

19:05 Do not give it to PTI.

19:06 You make the government, make it in the right way.

19:08 But if you sit here as a result of a disputed election,

19:13 what was Imran Khan's problem?

19:15 Why did the government not work?

19:17 Have you ever thought about it?

19:18 In 3 years and 8 months, tell me one decision of Imran Khan's government.

19:22 I am asking an objective question.

19:27 Tell me. There is not even one.

19:29 The government did not do a single job of money.

19:31 It is a different matter that the 16 months of PDM government did not do a single job of money.

19:35 They have bribed them.

19:36 They must have lost 2-3 crores.

19:37 Okay.

19:38 But before going, I have two questions to ask you.

19:42 Mariam Nawaz Sahiba, as a Chief Minister of Punjab,

19:45 is the largest population of the province of Pakistan.

19:48 How do you see it?

19:49 If she performs, then work will be done.

19:52 Will she do it or not?

19:53 What can I say about it?

19:54 You have taken her closely as PMLN leader.

19:56 She will come to power.

19:57 She will work in the government.

19:58 The team works.

19:59 Is there any hope for you?

20:00 I always have hope.

20:02 Because our job is to hope.

20:04 But if your election is disputed,

20:08 your seat will be disputed,

20:10 and if your majority is disputed,

20:12 then it becomes difficult for you to work.

20:14 It is a system of nature.

20:16 Do you think that by being disputed,

20:18 the seat is being given to a leader who makes a difference?

20:21 How did Pakistan reach here?

20:23 Has anyone ever thought about it?

20:26 Many people are not Chief Ministers here.

20:28 Many people are not Prime Ministers.

20:29 Can they do anything?

20:31 This is a collective failure.

20:33 Fifty years have passed since this law was passed.

20:35 This is a collective failure.

20:38 This is a collective dissent.

20:41 How did we reach here?

20:43 The fundamental reason for this is the election theft.

20:45 Abbas, space has been created.

20:47 You said that after the elections,

20:49 you will bring a new Jamaat.

20:51 I did not say that.

20:52 I said that there will be a Jamaat.

20:54 There can be more than one.

20:55 I will definitely look at it.

20:57 I do not think that these three big Jamaats

20:59 will solve the problems of the country.

21:01 So, Shahid Khan Abbas is bringing a new Jamaat?

21:03 I am not bringing it.

21:04 Who is bringing it?

21:05 People will bring it.

21:06 I am also a part of the people.

21:08 I am also a part of the people.

21:10 I want a new Jamaat.

21:12 I think that these three Jamaats

21:14 will not be able to give anything.

21:16 Look at all these governments that are being formed.

21:18 Which people are they?

21:20 The same people who were waiting yesterday.

21:22 So, you are not bringing a Jamaat,

21:23 but a Jamaat will come.

21:24 Whether I bring it or not,

21:25 I will definitely want to be a part of it.

21:27 The Jamaat that has come.

21:28 Okay.

21:29 Shahid Khan Abbas, thank you very much

21:30 for joining me in the program.

21:31 After the break, we will talk about

21:32 some political situations and the breakdown.

21:34 After the break.

21:36 Welcome back after the break.

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42:03 Allah Hafiz.

Aiteraz Hai | Aniqa Nisar | ARY News | 24th February 2024

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