The stars of 'Dune: Part Two', Austin Butler and Timothée Chalamet, stop by to tell us about their sandworm-sized sequel, playing two of music's biggest ever idols and the albums they can't stop listening to right now.
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00:00 May thy knife chip and shatter.
00:03 Hi, I'm Alex from NME and today I'm really excited because I'm joined by two of Hollywood's biggest stars.
00:16 It's Timothee Chalamet and Austin Butler. How are we doing?
00:19 Doing well, how are you doing?
00:20 Really good, yeah.
00:21 So I'll jump right in, Timothee. You're up on that soundstage.
00:25 First time you've ridden one of those sound worms.
00:28 Uh-huh.
00:29 What's going through your mind? I'm guessing it's not, "What am I having for lunch today?"
00:32 No, it's stay alive, stay on it. And it wasn't on a soundstage, it was actually outside, in between soundstages in Budapest.
00:40 And Denise told me to keep what goes on in the kitchen in the kitchen so it won't reveal too much.
00:48 But it was as violent an experience as it is in the movie, close to it.
00:51 And also you had to, is it a sand walk, isn't it?
00:55 It's a sand walk as well.
00:56 Where are you practicing that?
00:57 Is it at home, in the club, maybe?
01:01 Yeah, it's most humble.
01:03 A little sand pit.
01:04 A little sand pit in the club, yeah. That's when you know you've made it.
01:06 In the hotel room.
01:07 Yeah, in the hotel room. No, yeah, it's most humble expression definitely in the hotel room or wherever my apartment was in Budapest.
01:12 But otherwise in the actual desert once we were out there. Yeah.
01:17 And Austin, well done. You've grown your eyebrows back.
01:20 Thank you, thank you. They just did it by themselves.
01:23 Fade's a scary bloke. Even with his eyebrows I think he'd be scary.
01:28 Were there any classic movie villains that you were inspired by?
01:32 I was just talking about this. It wasn't really direct details that I was taking from people, but it was more general.
01:42 I've always been inspired by Gary Oldman, you know, and many of his roles in Leon the Professional are true romance or Fifth Element, you know.
01:52 We've talked about Heath Ledger a lot, you know, the sense of play that he had.
01:58 And like I say, it's not these specific things, but it's more general inspiration.
02:03 And then obviously this one. Fifth Element, wow. I haven't thought about that movie in a long time.
02:08 What a film. I love that movie.
02:10 And then for this one it was more specifically Stellan, you know.
02:14 Oh really?
02:15 There was a lot of inspiration for him.
02:16 You were co-star of Stellan and Skarsgård. How so? Tell me more.
02:19 Well, as Fade, he's my uncle and I grew up with him almost as my father figure and also as the vision of ultimate power.
02:29 And so there were many things that I imagined I would have, through osmosis, sort of brought from him, you know, that would have soaked in through me.
02:43 Your blood comes from dukes and great houses. We don't have that here.
02:52 Here, we're equal. Men and women alike. What we do, we do for the benefit of all.
02:59 I'd very much like to be equal to you.
03:02 I've got a bit of a dream come true for a music journalist today, because Enemy is a music magazine.
03:07 I've got two of America's biggest music idols in the room together, Elvis Presley and Bob Dylan.
03:13 Have you chatted to each other about your process?
03:17 I've been picking Austin's brain non-stop, but I feel, let's let my film come out before I'm so lucky as to get included with Austin, you know, because he did such a phenomenal job.
03:30 I'll be lucky to do. But I do feel prideful about that too, because those are two artists that, I can't speak from Elvis' perspective, but deep in the Bob Dylan lore now,
03:41 he had tremendous respect for Elvis and Sun Records and all of it.
03:47 Yeah, same. It's been such a joy to, Timothee works so hard, and it's just so cool to get to discuss process and talk through things.
04:00 I can't wait for that film. I wish I could be on set every day to just watch the magic happen.
04:06 I wish you were in it.
04:07 I mean, there's an Elvis character in Johnny Cash, it's really brief.
04:11 It's very brief.
04:12 I was kind of wishing he'd create a musical cinematic universe.
04:17 Have you got like favourite music biopics that you've kind of watched previously? Not your own, obviously.
04:23 Elvis.
04:24 Le'Veon Rose.
04:26 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
04:27 Edith Piaf.
04:30 Walk the Line.
04:31 Walk the Line, of course. Ray.
04:33 Ray's incredible.
04:34 Oh, Ray's so good. I think that's my favourite as well, yeah.
04:36 He's fantastic.
04:37 Have you ever met any of those guys?
04:39 Yeah, I met Jamie.
04:40 Yeah?
04:42 Did he mention Elvis to you? Was this before Elvis?
04:44 Yeah, he did actually. That was one of the most impactful compliments, because Ray is one that I've watched so many times.
04:53 And I'm just enamoured by what Jamie Foxx does. And so, yeah, that meant a lot that he had seen it and he liked it.
05:03 What did he say? Just compliments?
05:05 No, just compliments.
05:07 But I did read that you've got 12 hours of unreleased Bob Dylan tracks.
05:12 Nobody's heard? I mean, obviously.
05:15 No, a lot of them are actually online. A lot of them are. Like Minnesota Tapes and stuff like that, they're online.
05:22 But you do have some that are unreleased?
05:24 I guess.
05:25 How do you sleep at night knowing that those are in your possession and you've got to sort of safeguard them?
05:29 Yeah, not easy. But, yeah, not easy.
05:39 You're trying to think about what you can say about it.
05:41 Yes and no. I mean, I feel so deeply respectful of his world, of the Dylanologists. So something like that, I don't want to be threatened by it.
06:01 Yeah, it's not braggadocious. It's really trying to honour this man.
06:07 And that's what, as Bob Dylan fans, that's all we're looking forward to.
06:11 And Austin's going to be in the film.
06:13 I wish. That'd be amazing.
06:16 I'll still cry if I see him in the film.
06:18 Hey, that'd be cool too.
06:19 Is there an album that either of you are obsessed with at the moment? It's just on repeat on your Spotify or Apple Music or whatever.
06:29 I think 'In Rainbows' is an old faithful that I've listened to maybe more than any other album. But 'In Rainbows' by Radiohead.
06:39 Yeah, that's great.
06:40 I just recently have just been playing that over and over and over. And Chet Baker sings.
06:46 So good. So good. What is it about those two albums that kind of brings you back to them?
06:51 I think 'In Rainbows' is a perfect album. And almost for any mood. And it just makes me feel so much. And I just love it.
07:07 And then Chet Baker, same thing. It's just the sound of his voice. And it's another one that's from beginning to end, it's just perfect. I just love it.
07:19 Two great albums. What are you going to say follows that one?
07:21 For me, I think it's an official release. But there's a, I guess it's a re-release of 'The Beatles' 1967 to 1970.
07:29 And I think it's like a 14 track or 28 track re-release. My mom listened to a lot of 'The Beatles' growing up.
07:36 But maybe some more of the like more mainstream classics. And obviously a re-release is going to have a lot of hits.
07:43 But I'm like at the beginning of, honestly through the world of Bob, who I think was very admiring of 'The Beatles'.
07:51 Sort of contemporaries or the contemporaries in some way. And just like, God, what a time.
07:59 Have you ever met any of 'The Beatles'?
08:01 No. No, I haven't. I haven't.
08:04 I've met Paul McCartney. He's very special. I rode on a train with Paul McCartney.
08:09 Wow.
08:10 I told this story before.
08:11 Which train?
08:12 The Eurostar from London to Paris.
08:15 You just happened to be sitting across from one another?
08:18 Well, Stella had a show earlier in the day in Paris.
08:24 And then she said, you know, if you come to the show then afterwards we can take the train back with my dad.
08:31 And I tried to get a seat on the train and I couldn't get a seat.
08:35 And then I called her and I said, Stella, I don't think I can get on the train.
08:39 And I said, let me call my dad and see what he can do. And then five minutes later she said, alright, we got you a ticket.
08:44 And so we ended up sitting across from each other.
08:46 And I think I told this story on James Corden, but he ended up basically telling me his stories of meeting Elvis and how special that was.
08:56 Wow.
08:57 You don't get to meet that when you've had that experience, you know, 'The Beatles' meeting Elvis.
09:01 And one where I would guess Elvis was, I'm guessing, as respectful of him, or at least in some way.
09:06 Well, and there were the young guys who were coming in.
09:09 Right, taking up the scene.
09:10 Yeah, it was very special.
09:12 Wow.
09:13 So now, yeah, Paul's... we were talking about this the other day as well, 'Get Back', how fantastic.
09:20 Well, that's what I was going to talk about, but that's one of the main things that's inspiring me right now.
09:25 Yeah, it's just... there's a lot of Bob covers in 'Get Back' too, which is cool.
09:31 I wish I had all afternoon to talk to you about The Beatles and Elvis Presley and Bob Dylan, but sadly not.
09:36 Thank you so much for chatting to me, guys.
09:37 Thank you.
09:38 Thank you.
09:39 Lovely.
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