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00:00 Why do you think the government's power policy will cause damage to the country?
00:05 You know it, why do you have to ask me?
00:09 Our current system is a system that is called "flawless"
00:15 It's about changing things without being inconsistent.
00:19 Right? Not necessarily. We have a good system.
00:23 But we will use this system.
00:27 We have to give, take, return, give, take, keep, and so on.
00:31 That's why it's a permanent system.
00:34 If the government tries to keep the price lower than it should be,
00:40 it will result in debt.
00:45 And the government will have more problems than debts.
00:49 They will have more problems than their money.
00:52 They have more than 100,000,000 debt.
00:54 It's a problem of money.
00:56 The government is already in a difficult situation.
00:58 Both in terms of its finances and in terms of
01:02 its money, gold, and other assets.
01:04 The system is expensive.
01:06 We have built this system for 50-60 years.
01:10 It's been damaged and damaged.
01:12 So we are not against the system
01:14 to lower the price.
01:17 But we are against the system to lower the price.
01:21 It will cause a long-term damage.
01:23 And the result will be debt.
01:25 This is only about the budget.
01:27 Yes.
01:29 But if the government says it can't help the people
01:34 because the people are in trouble,
01:36 whether it's about electricity,
01:38 or diesel,
01:40 how will the government react?
01:43 No.
01:45 Everyone wants to help the people.
01:47 But there are limitations to how much help we can provide.
01:52 We have to avoid long-term problems.
01:55 We have to create problems for the organizations.
01:57 So there are limitations.
02:00 Like the FT system,
02:02 it's a level of help.
02:04 If we can pay it,
02:06 it's okay for the organization to stay.
02:08 But if we don't, the organization can't stay.
02:10 It can't stay.
02:12 All the debts can't be used.
02:14 It becomes a public debt.
02:16 It means that whoever uses electricity or doesn't
02:18 becomes a debtor all over the country.
02:20 That's the principle.
02:22 It shouldn't be done.
02:24 It's a system of loss.
02:26 It's a debt that everyone has to pay.
02:28 You may not have used electricity before.
02:30 You have to pay less than others.
02:32 But you have to pay the debt of everyone.
02:36 That's the point.
02:38 So the policy that you said is necessary
02:42 that the organization doesn't get affected
02:44 but the people get help.
02:46 Let's start with the oil price.
02:49 What should we do with the oil price?
02:52 We have to pay the company.
02:54 What should we do?
02:56 We have to pay the company.
02:58 We can't keep it.
03:00 We can't help the DJ.
03:02 We can't do that.
03:04 The oil price is 800 million baht.
03:06 It's the same.
03:08 We get it from the company.
03:10 We have to pay them back.
03:12 If we don't,
03:14 it becomes a public debt.
03:16 Whoever uses oil or doesn't
03:18 or uses a car or doesn't
03:20 has to pay the debt of everyone.
03:22 It's the same with diesel.
03:24 I have a diesel car.
03:26 Why do you have to help me?
03:28 While people are riding motorcycles.
03:30 They have to pay for the petrol.
03:32 They don't get help.
03:34 It's a public justice.
03:36 So the system has to be done.
03:40 I saw that the government
03:42 has adjusted the price of diesel
03:44 from 30 baht to 32 baht.
03:46 Is it appropriate?
03:48 Yes, it is.
03:50 It should be 32 baht.
03:52 Then we can move on.
03:54 Should we divide the 32 baht?
03:56 It helps the vulnerable groups.
03:58 Like motorcycles.
04:00 That's a good idea.
04:02 Motorcycles don't use diesel.
04:04 Or those who ride a van.
04:06 Diesel is a good idea.
04:08 You said it helps the vulnerable groups.
04:10 It helps the rest.
04:12 But if it's the general public,
04:14 they can pay 32 baht per liter.
04:16 They can't move on.
04:18 The government has to save money
04:20 for the vulnerable groups.
04:22 They can't just give money to the government.
04:24 What about the electricity bill?
04:26 It has to increase.
04:28 Last time, they asked for an increase.
04:30 But they used FT.
04:32 It's a lot less than they asked for.
04:34 It makes the FT bill bigger.
04:36 The Ministry of Industry
04:40 has released a report
04:42 that 4 baht and 18 baht is too expensive.
04:44 If we calculate,
04:46 it can be less than 4 baht and 18 baht.
04:48 What do you think?
04:50 They look at the benefits of the mountain.
04:52 We are a citizen.
04:54 We have to look at our benefits in the future.
04:56 We don't have to
04:58 create a burden for our children.
05:00 We don't have to damage the environment.
05:02 That's our benefit.
05:04 But the industry
05:06 has to say it's expensive.
05:08 But the things are expensive.
05:10 We don't have our own things.
05:12 We don't have our own oil.
05:14 In Thailand,
05:16 we use oil to import
05:18 1 million barrels a day.
05:20 We have about 20,000 barrels of oil.
05:22 We have only one tank
05:24 in Amphawa.
05:26 That's all we have.
05:28 We have to import all of it.
05:30 We have to pay the price.
05:32 If we don't pay, they won't sell it to us.
05:34 Raw oil is imported.
05:36 If the government
05:38 doesn't have a policy
05:40 to reduce the price of coal
05:42 for the people,
05:44 like the price of electricity,
05:46 diesel,
05:48 what will happen to the government?
05:50 The government will be criticized
05:52 because people
05:54 have been thinking about it for a long time.
05:56 If the government doesn't help,
05:58 they will be criticized.
06:00 Sometimes it hurts.
06:02 We can't help because they are deleting it.
06:04 It's expensive. We have to pay.
06:06 We have helped once.
06:08 In the future,
06:10 the price of oil may go down.
06:12 We don't know when.
06:14 If it goes down,
06:16 and we still help,
06:18 we can't live.
06:20 The government can't live either.
06:22 It's not good.
06:24 If the government continues
06:26 to follow the same policy,
06:28 the country will be destroyed.
06:30 It won't be destroyed today.
06:32 But it will be
06:34 a burden
06:36 for the country.
06:38 The Thai economy is in a bad state.
06:40 There are many problems.
06:42 We are number one in Asia
06:44 in terms of energy.
06:46 We have been developing
06:48 the best energy for 40 years.
06:50 We want to see
06:52 the best energy
06:54 be destroyed.
06:56 When we hold
06:58 the best energy competition,
07:00 Asia's country
07:02 gets the most energy every year.
07:04 We have the best energy.
07:06 We have the best oil.
07:08 We have the best gas.
07:10 We have the best system.
07:12 We can get the best energy
07:14 every time.
07:16 It's great.
07:18 I want you to show us
07:20 the picture.
07:22 If the government continues
07:24 to follow the policy,
07:26 the oil fund will be deducted
07:28 from 100,000,000 baht.
07:30 It will be a burden
07:32 for the people
07:34 who have to pay the tax.
07:36 I want you to show us the picture.
07:38 It's a big problem.
07:42 We have to reduce the tax
07:44 and the aid.
07:46 We have to save money
07:48 and build the infrastructure.
07:50 It will be more expensive.
07:52 It's hard to say.
07:54 We have to save money.
07:56 We have to save money
07:58 by using less oil and electricity.
08:00 It's expensive.
08:02 We have to do it.
08:04 We have to save money.
08:06 If the government
08:08 has a good timing,
08:10 the price of oil will go down.
08:12 But we can do more.
08:14 When I was a minister,
08:16 the oil fund was deducted
08:18 from 20,000,000 baht.
08:20 Luckily, the price went down.
08:22 When I left,
08:24 the oil fund was deducted
08:26 from 40,000,000 baht.
08:28 Now, the oil fund
08:30 is deducted from 50,000,000 baht.
08:32 It's getting worse.
08:34 We have to save money
08:36 by using less oil and electricity.
08:38 We have to save money.
08:40 Oil is the same.
08:42 Oil and electricity are the same.
08:44 We have to save money
08:46 by using less oil and electricity.
08:48 We have to save money
08:50 by using less oil and electricity.
08:52 This is about the energy policy.
08:54 I want to ask you
08:56 about the straw.
08:58 The government and the prime minister
09:00 want to have a law to reduce the straw.
09:02 What do you think about it?
09:04 One of the principles
09:06 is that the government
09:08 and the national bank do different jobs.
09:10 The first thing is that
09:12 they shouldn't start a fight
09:14 in front of the public.
09:16 We see the government
09:18 blaming the national bank
09:20 for the straw.
09:22 The national bank also responds.
09:24 The principle is that
09:26 we shouldn't start a fight
09:28 in front of the public.
09:30 The second thing is that
09:32 the national bank
09:34 should be able to save money.
09:36 The government is looking at the straw
09:38 to see how much it can reduce the cost.
09:40 The cost of straw is low.
09:42 Foreign money is being spent.
09:44 The cost of straw is low.
09:46 It's hurting the economy.
09:48 If we look at the real cost of straw,
09:50 the cost of straw in the US
09:52 is about 5%.
09:54 The cost of foreign money
09:56 is about 2%.
09:58 The real cost of straw is about 2%.
10:00 In Thailand,
10:02 the cost of straw is about 2%.
10:04 Foreign money is about 0%.
10:06 The real cost of straw is about 2%.
10:08 It's about the same.
10:10 If we reduce the cost of straw,
10:12 the money will flow out.
10:14 The cost of straw is high.
10:16 The inflation is high.
10:18 The country will be in trouble.
10:20 I'm a member of the committee.
10:22 We have to do this for the sake of the economy.
10:24 I've been there for many years.
10:26 I think we should protect the economy.
10:28 Who's going to say anything about me?
10:30 I think we should protect the economy.
10:32 Yes.
10:34 We should look at the big picture.
10:36 Let's talk about this later.
10:38 We shouldn't be talking about this in the media.
10:40 The most important thing is
10:42 that my wife and I have a family matter.
10:44 We had a fight at the market.
10:46 I was embarrassed.
10:48 When we had a fight,
10:50 the stock price fell.
10:52 Foreigners sold their stocks
10:54 because Thailand was in a bad situation.
10:56 No one was popular in Thailand.
10:58 So we were in a bad situation.
11:00 Yes.
11:02 Do you have anything to say
11:04 about the government?
11:06 No.
11:08 I've always been excited
11:10 about the government.
11:12 I think that
11:14 our government
11:16 is slow.
11:18 When the government is slow,
11:20 the stock price falls.
11:22 The stock price fell
11:24 in June
11:26 so that it could be used in October.
11:28 When the stock price fell,
11:30 the government's stock price
11:32 fell.
11:34 It's not usable anymore.
11:36 It's the same stock price.
11:38 The last quarter of last year
11:40 was the first quarter of the stock price.
11:42 The government's stock price fell.
11:44 The country's stock price fell.
11:46 This year is the second quarter
11:48 of the stock price.
11:50 The stock price fell again.
11:52 The stock price fell again.
11:54 So the government has to solve the problem.
11:56 When the government is slow,
11:58 the government has to
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13:08 (speaks in foreign language)